CFV: soc.culture.belarus moderated
Jan Isley
FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
moderated group soc.culture.belarus
Newsgroups line:
soc.culture.belarus All things about Belarus. (Moderated)
Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 14 Jun 1996.
This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. Questions
about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.
Proponent: Peter Kasaty <kas...@seanet.com>
Votetaker: Jan Isley <j...@bagend.atl.ga.us>
RATIONALE: soc.culture.belarus
The topic of Belarus is a topic that needs the platform of a Usenet
newsgroup. There are over 10 million Belarusians in the Republic of
Belarus, plus an additional 3.5 million that are members of the
Belarusian Diaspora. There is no current Usenet newsgroup that
addresses this topic. Soc.culture.soviet is the only possibility,
but at best, it is a very, very broad forum.
The need for a moderated group is best explained by a taking a casual
look at the many off-topic postings in other, non-moderated Usenet
soc.culture.* groups. We would like to avoid such problems from
the start.
CHARTER: soc.culture.belarus
The spelling of "Belarusian" in this document conforms to our
understanding of the official spelling. We use this spelling out of
a expression of solidarity, even though some of us feel "Belarusan"
should be the spelling in English. Possibly, efforts will be
initiated to change the spelling to "Belarusan."
Soc.culture.belarus is a moderated newsgroup for the free exchange of
information and opinions on Belarusian culture, language, history,
economics, science, and other topics related to Belarus.
Posts appropriate for soc.culture.belarus include, but are not
restricted to the following aspects of Belarus:
Informational posts about Belarus culture, history, etc.
Language issues related to Belarusian
Discussion of education, health, environment, etc., issues
Discussion of politics, elections, etc.
Relations between Belarus and other countries as long as
discussion remains relevant to Belarus
Discussion of economic conditions and gov't policies toward them
Issues related to members of the Belarusian Diaspora
Questions and information about genealogy within the
historical territory that has been Belarus
Discussion of (new) books, articles, movies, etc., about Belarus
Belarusian cuisine
The effects of Chornobyl on Belarusians and the environment
Discussion of minority issues, including language, within
Belarus
Job opportunities within Belarus
Soc.culture.belarus is for anyone who is interested in Belarus and
who can follow Usenet newsgroup netiquette, basic rules of polite
human interaction, and any further restrictions imposed by this
charter. There is no test or requirement as to how much of a
Belarusian a person is who wants to make a submission and participate.
Any restrictions concerning the contents of a post are intended to
keep to the topic of Belarus, and are not intended to restrict
anyone's expression of opinions. Free speech exists within the
context of Belarus as a topic as defined in this charter. If the
topic is not about Belarus, forums other than soc.culture.belarus are
more appropriate.
Submissions must be in English, Belarusian, or Russian. If in
Belarusian or Russian, they should be transliterated or in KOI-8
(RFC-1489). There is a problem with posts in Belarusian in KOI-8
in that there is no agreed to mapping for "y neskladovae" and "i".
This issue will be addressed and resolved through discussions on
this newsgroup and will be included in the forthcoming FAQ. Visual
approximations of Cyrillic Belarusian and Russian are strongly
discouraged for the body of the message as they are essentially
indecipherable. Use in signatures or other short usage is
acceptable.
Format of submissions shall be as follows:
Subject Line -- Clearly identifies the content as explicitly and
concisely as possible
Line length -- No more than 72 characters/line; most lines 60
characters or more, with hard carriage returns; (for
legibility, especially when quoted in a follow-up
posting)
Content -- At least 1/3 original (unquoted) text preferred
Appropriate to the group readership, not for personal
e-mail (i.e., for one or only several others). Meets
conditions of this charter, including netiquette.
Signatures -- separated from the body by "-- " (note space) very
long signatures and "handles" are discouraged;
real names preferred
Cross-posts -- to no more than 4 newsgroups (total, including
soc.culture.belarus), if any at all
Submissions unrelated to Belarus shall be rejected. Commercial
advertisements unrelated to Belarus shall be rejected; all personal
ads shall be rejected.
Submissions containing ethnic slurs, or submissions intended to hurt
any given race, religion, gender, or sexual orientation, shall be
rejected. Personal attacks on individual posters will also be
rejected.
When major changes to the charter are to be considered, an
announcement will be made on soc.culture.belarus inviting interested
people to respond and thus participate in an e-mail charter review
discussion group. Any discussions of changes will be made within
this group, and the results will be posted to soc.culture.belarus for
review by the general readership. (Should the committee continue for
longer than one month, periodic postings of the committee's existence
and status will be repeated once per month.)
Proposed major changes to the charter will be preceded by an RFD and
a CFV.
Moderation Policy:
The role of the moderators is to ensure the conditions of the charter
are met by any submission to soc.culture.belarus. The moderators
recognize that they should be as un-biased and objective as is
humanly possible. Submissions are evaluated as to whether or not (1)
they are on topic, (2) they meet netiquette, (3) they are appropriate
for the group membership as a group (rather than something that
belongs in e-mail to an individual(s)), and (4) meet any other
submission standards as defined in the charter. The forwarding of
the submissions to soc.culture.belarus by the moderators should be in
a timely manner. The total number of moderators shall be a minimum
of 4 and a maximum of 7.
Should a moderator reject a submission, s/he will send the complete
submission together with an explanation for the rejection to the
submitter in a timely manner (usually within 48 hours). All of the
other moderators shall be included in the "cc." Should the
moderators as a group disagree with a moderator's decision about a
submission, a minimum of a 2/3rd's majority is required to override
it. Other details will be refined during the initial existence of
soc.culture.belarus, recognizing that it is impossible to anticipate
all of the details of moderation in advance.
Submitters to soc.culture.belarus should recognize the volunteer
nature of the moderators, possible equipment problems with the
server, etc., and keep such issues in mind when considering whether
or not a post was made in a timely way.
The moderators will explore the possibility of using "robomoderator"
software to increase the efficiency of posting new submissions to
soc.culture.belarus. Developments in using such software will be
posted to soc.culture.belarus for review.
The moderators will also work among themselves to define the details
of moderation, for example, addressing such issues as how many
moderators are actively moderating at a time and how to deal with
threads that appear to have strayed from the subject of Belarus.
Additional moderators to the initial four may be recruited from
the readership as demand warrants. If a moderator wants to retire
from the moderation panel, he or she must make a public statement
at least one month prior to retirement so that a replacement
moderator may be found.
Anyone may volunteer to join the moderation panel with the consent of
at least a 2/3rd's majority of the current moderators. Moderators
also may be removed by a 2/3rd's majority of the moderation panel.
Of course, moderators may resign of their own volition at any time.
E-Mail Addresses:
Two e-mail addresses will be established. One which will receive the
submissions to soc.culture.belarus (through a forwarding mechanism);
the other for contacting the group of moderators. A home page will
also be established as a repository for the charter and other
relevant materials that may be required in the future (FAQ, moderator
policy updates, etc.).
END CHARTER.
MODERATOR INFO: soc.culture.belarus
Moderator: Peter Kasaty <kas...@seanet.com>
Moderator: Alex Artsyukhovich <an...@faraday.clas.virginia.edu>
Moderator: Matvey Nemenman <ma...@menem.com>
Moderator: Dmitry Zelenko <zel...@cs.uiuc.edu>
Administrative contact address: scb-r...@solar.rtd.utk.edu
Article submission address: s...@solar.rtd.utk.edu
Peter Kasaty <kas...@seanet.com>
http://solar.rtd.utk.edu/~kasaty/miscellany.html
Peter Kasaty is a Belarusian-American born in Germany and works as a
technical writer, editor, and English instructor near Seattle,
Washington, USA. He is the primary list-owner of the Belarus e-mail
list and maintainer of a web page dedicated to collecting information
about Belarus both on and off the net. Most of his relatives live in
Belarus. He is especially interested in Belarusian literature,
English teaching, the Internet in Belarus, and environmental issues.
Alex Artsyukhovich <an...@faraday.clas.virginia.edu>
http://faraday.clas.virginia.edu/~ana4a/Belarus.html
Alex Artsyukhovich is a professor in the Applied Optics Department at
Hrodna State University, currently on leave at the Lawrence Berkeley
National Laboratory in Berkeley, California. He was born and grew up
in Hrodna, Belarus. Alex maintains part of the "Virtual Guide to
Belarus" on the web. Alex's main hobby is gardening. His major
areas of interest include natural sciences, philosophy, history of
religion, contemporary art, lately Belarusian history and ethics.
Matvey Nemenman <ma...@menem.com>
http://www.menem.com/MinskSite/ http://www.menem.com/mattn
After studying at the Belarusian State Polytechnical Academy, Matvey
is now continuing his education in computer science at the University
of California, Berkeley, working at the same time for Informix
Software, Inc. He was born and grew up in Minsk and now lives in
Fremont, California, in the San Francisco Bay Area. He is the
maintainer of The Minsk Site. Matvey is very much interested in world
history and literature.
Dmitry Zelenko <zel...@cs.uiuc.edu>
http://freedom.ncsa.uiuc.edu/~zelenko
After studying for 4 years at the Department of Applied Mathematics
of the Belarusian State University, Dmitry is now a graduate student
in computer science and mathematics at the University of Illinois at
Urbana-Champaign working for the National Center of Supercomputing.
He maintains City Guides of the Virtual Guide of Belarus. Dmitry is
also interested in Belarusian history and all kinds of poetry.
END MODERATOR INFO.
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Jan Isley
LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
moderated group soc.culture.belarus
RATIONALE: soc.culture.belarus
CHARTER: soc.culture.belarus
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MODERATOR INFO: soc.culture.belarus
END MODERATOR INFO.
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Jan Isley
RESULT
moderated group soc.culture.belarus passes 164:19
soc.culture.belarus results - 183 valid votes
Yes No | 2/3 >100 | Pass | Group
---- ---- | --- ---- | ---- | -------------------------------------------
164 19 | Yes Yes | Yes | soc.culture.belarus
44 invalid votes
A five day discussion period follows this announcement. If no
serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the
moderator of news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly
thereafter.
Newsgroups line:
soc.culture.belarus All things about Belarus. (Moderated)
Votes closed on 23:59:59 UTC, 14 Jun 1996.
This vote was conducted by a neutral third party. Questions
RATIONALE: soc.culture.belarus
CHARTER: soc.culture.belarus
Moderation Policy:
E-Mail Addresses:
END CHARTER.
MODERATOR INFO: soc.culture.belarus
END MODERATOR INFO.
Voted YES
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Michaela....@uibk.ac.at Michaela Mauracher
R.Czer...@unsw.edu.au Robert M.J. Czernkowski
phu...@innet.be Patrick Hublou
constantine.vu...@tnd.belpak.gomel.by Constantine Vulakh
LSe...@univer.belpak.grodno.by Ludmila Sereda
se...@univer.belpak.grodno.by Sergey Pliusnin
evg...@mrti.basnet.minsk.by Eugene Kalosha
chi...@vladimir.belpak.minsk.by Vladimir Chivel
l...@cc.bsuir.minsk.by Eugene Leskovets
vplo...@dast.minsk.by Vladislav Plotkin
da...@ds.minsk.by Dmitry Salnikov
ro...@serros.minsk.by Serge A. Rosanov
pie...@todes.minsk.by Andrew Remenchuk
st...@todes.minsk.by Igor Starovoytov
adr...@paradigm.bc.ca Adrian Boyko
SHE...@vax2.concordia.ca Margaret Sheremata
vl...@cyberus.ca Vladimir Mikhailov
ste...@direct.ca Stefan Lemieszewski
ZU...@ccfm.ireq.ca Will Zuzak
u940...@muss.CIS.McMaster.CA Andrius
four...@icis.on.ca Carol Ann Weston
Alex_Ko...@stentor.ca Alex Kowalenko
bu...@Phys.UAlberta.CA Michael Burianyk
David....@UAlberta.CA David Marples
jmcg...@uoguelph.ca James McGarry
OGU...@sask.usask.ca I. Oguocha
hly...@server.uwindsor.ca Myron Hlynka
wi...@olsen.ch Colleen Wirth
sav...@agency.com Colin Savage
BBr...@aol.com Derk Bruins
BelR...@aol.com Joe Price
DrKat...@aol.com Lisa Callihan
EricM...@aol.com Eric McCloy
Jud...@aol.com Judy Canyock
br...@aracnet.com Bruce Baugh
boro...@cais.cais.com A. S. Borowsky
dc...@cftnet.com Dave
10236...@CompuServe.COM Steven Walker
10414...@CompuServe.COM Peter Buxton
7414...@CompuServe.COM Saul Silverman
75443...@CompuServe.COM Oleg Danilow
jay...@cris.com Jay Lapidus
dennis...@unpcbbs.cts.com Dennis Selich
bob...@rainier.darwin.com Stephen Bobick
hil...@dmgi.com Wayne Hilburn
gr...@echonyc.com Richard Grove
asilw...@gnn.com Alexander Silwanowicz
van...@goodnet.com Uldis Balodis
m...@hale.com Michael E. Hale
ma...@informix.com Matvey Nemenman
pa...@interlog.com Trevor Tymchuk
rav...@juno.com Christopher J Brennan
bracz...@kelco.com Bob Raczkowski
mad...@mcs.com Marko Puljic
seli...@moodys.com Vitaly Selivanov
wy...@cig.mot.com Mark Wyman
ol...@viking.mv.com Olav Nieuwejaar
anu...@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM Larisa Streeter
cla...@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM Claire
ho...@ix.netcom.com Eugen-Jan Dubovik
tds...@ix.netcom.com Thomas W. Serdinsky
tgr...@ix.netcom.com Tom Griffin
dead...@netcom.com Bruce Hallman
adi...@nyc.pipeline.com Alfred DiMaio
DR_FI...@prodigy.com DR KEVAN C CRAWFORD
NEJ...@prodigy.com Eugene Y. Fridkin
XHX...@prodigy.com MR JOHN CIVITELLA
jpir...@tdh.qntm.com Jake Pirovich
pva...@qualcomm.com Paul Vachal
kas...@seanet.com Peter Kasaty
kaza...@pearl.sri.com Irina Kazakova
kaz...@unix.sri.com Sergei Kazakov
Cheryl.F...@Corp.Sun.COM Cheryl Fackler Hug
ari...@taronga.com Stephanie da Silva
VAUK%mi...@magic.itg.ti.com Vladimir Ukraintsev
victor...@tmai.com Victor Boksha
Boh...@TRYZUB.com Bohdan Peter Rekshynskyj
va...@vmt.com Vadim Temkin
h...@wwa.com Henrietta Thomas
Sergei....@cerge.cuni.cz Sonchik Sergei
euv-...@euv-frankfurt-o.de Grzegorz Hajduk
ubot...@roxi.rz.fht-mannheim.de Ulrich Bottler
na...@mips.pfalz.de Christian Weisgerber
ap...@macb033.rrzn.uni-hannover.de Andreas Prilop
g...@aixterm1.urz.uni-heidelberg.de Dominik Peris
pe...@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU Alexander Petrushko
car...@physics.Berkeley.EDU Robert Carpick
ew...@cornell.edu E. Wayles Browne
d...@midas.harvard.edu Qing Dai
pv...@Lehigh.EDU Peter Vorobieff
eug...@MIT.EDU Eugene Zherebilov
2067...@MSU.EDU John Stone
fi...@casbah.acns.nwu.edu Carwil James
alu...@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Alexander Luchin
paho...@ECE.ORST.EDU Eugene Pahomsky
taur...@ucs.orst.edu Andrew Tauriainen
turn...@ucs.orst.edu Wendy Turner
no...@CS.Princeton.EDU George Chesakov
cbs...@phoenix.Princeton.EDU Christopher B. Stone
velk...@nuclear.physics.sunysb.edu Momchil Velkovsky
dmi...@pavel.physics.sunysb.edu Dima Zinoviev
pau...@astro.ocis.temple.edu Pam Austin
ol...@napoleon.me.tulane.edu Oleg Pimenov
ZA...@ucrac1.ucr.edu Francisco Zaera
de...@cs.ucsb.edu Denis A Khotimsky
urub...@mcl.ucsb.edu Svetlana Rubin
yper...@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu Yelena Perkhounkova
zel...@freedom.ncsa.uiuc.edu Dmitry Zelenko
ce...@cs.UMD.EDU Simon Hawkin
abur...@sas.upenn.edu Alexander Burshteyn
wer...@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu Werner Unbekannt
cfwoo...@mail.utexas.edu Curt Woolhiser
an...@faraday.clas.virginia.edu Alex Artsyukhovich
jv...@faraday.clas.virginia.edu Yulia Nekrylova
vk...@faraday.clas.virginia.edu Vladimir Karginov
ms...@dayhoff.med.virginia.edu Maria S. Santisteban
fv...@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu Fedor Karginov
nv...@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu Natalia Mamaeva
sj...@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu Serguei J. Golovine
sm...@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu Sergey MAMAEV
wide...@cc.helsinki.fi Risto Widenius
arc...@hsc.fr Vincent Archer
Ollivie...@hsc.fr Ollivier Robert
jce...@stm.lbl.gov Jorge Iribas Cerda
jje...@stm.lbl.gov John Jensen
mw...@stm.lbl.gov Mae Lum
ni...@stm.lbl.gov Nick Jaeger
st...@stm.lbl.gov Stefan Behler
x...@stm.lbl.gov Lei Xu
j...@hammer.msfc.nasa.gov J. Porter Clark
ib...@ksl.co.il Igor Bunimovich
ant...@mbox.vol.it Antonio Ammazzagatti
zi2...@asahi-net.or.jp Shinichi Noro
ol...@chonnam.chonnam.ac.kr Oleg olendski
hka...@acadia.net Helen Kazura
asm...@emf.net Charles Ashman
rll...@epix.net Ralph Lewis
robe...@hooked.net Robert Marshall
flo...@interport.net jon rubin
davi...@oro.net DAVIDCHIK
rcu...@polaristel.net Dmitriy Kazmerchuk
rpu...@primeline.net Ron Purvis
wa...@scott.net Walt Moffett
chuc...@value.net Olivia Carniglia
m...@aldan.zipnet.net Mikhail Teterin
roel.v...@tip.nl Roel Verbunt
csa...@urc.tue.nl Michiel Wijers
s.kr...@tn.utwente.nl Sergei Kruglik
her...@iet.hist.no Herman Ranes
r...@advanced.org R. S. Camm
tla...@amug.org Todd C. Lawson
cas...@muenchen.org Remco Castner
ana4a%faraday.clas...@PLEARN.EDU.PL Wiench Piotr
to...@krysia.uni.lodz.pl Jim Todd
RYZ...@ms1.inr.ac.ru Gregory Ryzhikh
som...@algonet.se Erland Sommarskog
ta...@singnet.com.sg Tan Wee Cheng
ijac...@chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk Ian Jackson
TACI...@srv0.bio.ed.ac.uk Taciana Kas'ciukovicz
Y.Zolo...@ma.hw.ac.uk Yaroslav Zolotaryuk
jdin...@ssees.ac.uk James Dingley
l...@stuffing.demon.co.uk Lyn David Thomas
ma...@harlequin.co.uk Mark Szolkowski
Voted NO
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stai...@bga.com Dwight Brown
bo...@datasync.com Martin H. Booda
l...@zk3.dec.com Larry Smith
d...@bwalk.dm.com Dr. Dimitri Vulis
mar...@emrl.com Aaron Marquez
b...@herbison.com B.J. Herbison
rossix!dav...@openlink.one-o.com David Moore
k...@shell.portal.com Kim DeVaughn
w...@seagull.rtd.com Jane Woo
br...@remarque.berkeley.edu Bryce Nesbitt
cl...@columbia.edu Christopher Lodge Stamper
gh...@cleveland.Freenet.Edu O.Manchenko
pa...@catfish.lcs.mit.edu Patrick J. LoPresti
ri...@bcm.tmc.edu Richard H. Miller
afa...@umich.edu Andrew Fabbro
mso...@mistik.express.net Mustafa Soysal
jo...@handel.jlc.net John Leslie
sh...@nyx.net Shrisha Rao
Ca...@uni-mb.si Ales Casar
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ro...@prior.belpak.grodno.by Sergey Eremin
! Ineligible address
ro...@republ.belpak.minsk.by Oleg Bigeza
! Ineligible address
ro...@bitno.minsk.by Yuri L. Bitno
! Ineligible address
dav...@pdd.3com.com
! No name given
MMcC...@aol.com
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Swamp...@aol.com
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je...@gvmail.ih.att.com
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B1Q...@SSOUTH.BELL-ATL.COM
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biz...@enterprise.net
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WIE...@PLEARN.EDU.PL
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Lit...@aol.com
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m...@ALDAN.algebra.com Mikhail Teterin
! Site invalidated
ant...@manifold.algebra.com Anton Prokofiev
! Site invalidated
bl...@manifold.algebra.com Bobby Lin
! Site invalidated
br...@manifold.algebra.com Brad Brown
! Site invalidated
do...@manifold.algebra.com Doug Hamilton
! Site invalidated
dy...@manifold.algebra.com Rock Dyer
! Site invalidated
gco...@manifold.algebra.com Greg Cooper
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gun...@manifold.algebra.com Ronald Trecker
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k...@manifold.algebra.com Ken J. Hunter
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le...@manifold.algebra.com Elena Zaiceva
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mcc...@manifold.algebra.com Andrew McCaig
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mel....@manifold.algebra.com Mel Lynch
! Site invalidated
mi...@manifold.algebra.com Mike Burke
! Site invalidated
m...@manifold.algebra.com Milton Parrott
! Site invalidated
mil...@manifold.algebra.com Jerry Milman
! Site invalidated
mjoh...@manifold.algebra.com Mark Johnson
! Site invalidated
mkl...@manifold.algebra.com Martin Klein
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msid...@manifold.algebra.com Marina Sidorova
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mu...@manifold.algebra.com Martin Unze
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nas...@manifold.algebra.com Nastya
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nat...@manifold.algebra.com Natasha K.
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ow...@manifold.algebra.com Larry Owen
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pi...@manifold.algebra.com Sergey Filippov
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rcr...@manifold.algebra.com Russell Cross
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rhend...@manifold.algebra.com Ron Henderson
! Site invalidated
sex...@manifold.algebra.com Anthony Del Vecchio
! Site invalidated
s...@manifold.algebra.com David Shoemaker
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t...@manifold.algebra.com Mikhail Tarutin
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tar...@manifold.algebra.com Taras Leonoff
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vo...@manifold.algebra.com Mikhail Volkov
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wh...@manifold.algebra.com James S. Whaley
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wil...@manifold.algebra.com Tim Willis
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ich...@algebra.com Igor Chudov
! Site invalidated
J Durbin
vlad...@iceonline.com wrote:
>I agree with Michael. Voting fraud is obvious in both cases of creating
>moderated groups. Netizens, if you want honest voting process, pick
>up someone else to count votes or have two or three vote collectors.
OK, consider youself and your cronies volunteered.
That's right folks. Send all your votes for any usenet newsgroup to:
vlad...@iceonline.com
d...@bwalk.dm.com
ma...@manus.org
bou...@world.std.com
No limit on how many times you can vote. Send all questions you have
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to the same address above.
[Note: any future questions about the failed rec.music.white-power
newsgroup should be sent to the addresses above.]
;-?
"The thing remembered is not the thing." --Korzybsky
Peter Kasaty
vlad...@iceonline.com wrote:
>[soc.genealogy.slavic and soc.culture.baltics trimmed out
>news.admin.net-abuse.misc added]
>
>In article <4q7gbo$f...@lynx.dac.neu.edu>, mkag...@lynx.dac.neu.edu (Michael Kagalenko) says:
>>Jan Isley (j...@bagend.atl.ga.us) wrote:
>>
>> I find the following list amusing. One may recall that algebra.com is the
>> site from which soc.culture.russian.moderated is moderated. That gives
>> some insight into the creatioon of s.cr.m. as well, which
>> was passed with the margin of exactly one vote over required majority.
>> I am inclined to think that Chudov, one of scrm moderators, who
>> uses algebra.com, is not individual of marked integrity.
>> BTW, was a single of those invalidated votes "NO" ?
>
>I agree with Michael. Voting fraud is obvious in both cases of creating
>moderated groups. Netizens, if you want honest voting process, pick
>up someone else to count votes or have two or three vote collectors.
<< snip >>
*IF* the "both cases" in the previous paragraph somehow refers to the
situation for the vote for s.c.b (moderated), I would like some details
explaining this viewpoint. If it doesn't, ignore the rest of this
message. :-)
I have no connection with the people at algebra.com and have no idea how
they voted concerning s.c.b, pro or con. All of the proposed
co-moderators for s.c.b are new to newsgroup creation. What we share is
a sincere interest and concern for Belarus in its VERY difficult current
situation. That interest in our ethnic identity, homeland, relatives,
friends, etc., is what drives us--not usenet politics, etc.
*If* we have made errors in working toward the creation of s.c.b, they
came from our honest enthusiasm for what we feel is a very worthwhile
cause and need and an unfamiliarity with every nuance of usenet
guidelines--not due to some intentional misrepresentation, etc. There
is a world of difference between such things, IMHO. We are not usenet
lawyers, nor do we spend most of our lives living on the 'net. I
personally read through every usenet document I could find concerning
new group creation, worked with a usenet mentor, and tried to follow
those guidelines to the best of my ability.
Back to the actual topic of s.c.b and the need for it: Go to the
existing usenet newsgroups and browse thru the messages with "belarus"
in their titles, and count how many follow ups actually have anything at
all to do with Belarus. That's the issue for s.c.b.
Peace,
-- Peter Kasaty kas...@seanet.com
proponent for soc.culture.belarus (moderated)
Mikhail Teterin
[non-existing news-groups removed]
20 Jun Stephen Boursy
написал в <Dt9zJ...@world.std.com>
= But you didn't even address his concerns about the voting
=fraud--a point you seem to be conceding.
Ha! Mr. Boursy speaks about addressing concerns! Sooner Dunaj-river
will start flowing back then this as anus will start practicing
what he preaches. Tell us Bursi, is it you on the right?
-mi
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