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Slawko
Hardly ever or no replies for this kind of news.
Evgenij Barsukov
> You will not find to many supportes for Ukrainian news in this NG.
> Hardly ever or no replies for this kind of news.
>
Do not underestimate the lurkers. There is a lot of people who
are sitting in "read only" mode.
Also don't forget that all usenet news is archived by google forever,
which means people will be able to find the article through search
even if they have never "visited" this news group and don't even know
that Usenet exists.
So, cheer up and send some interesting messages. It will be read
by someone...
Regards,
Evgenij
Rostyslaw J. Lewyckyj
After all Slawko is a lurker.
Evgenij Barsukov
A lot of people are lurking this days.
There is just not always a lot that can be discussed with a feeling
that we are not just passing time. And time is getting more
tight for some reason.
What are the recent significant events around Ukraine?
1) Parlament approved all laws required to enter WTO - yawn, it was
clear that they would do it sooner or later. In fact that is the
only reason Regions even agreed to un-block the proceeding.
2) Putin is saying to Bush that Ukraine is not really a state... Well,
of cause he would think so, as he expressed his regret about Soviet
Union decommissioning treaty multiple times before. That this sentiment
came out on such a high level just makes it more clear why Ukraine needs
to join NATO.
What is curious, that treat of forcefully taking something away from
Ukrainian territory is _equally_ terrifying and insulting to people in
the east or west of the country. So it will in fact unite the people and
make everyone more aware of what advantages NATO really brings.
3) Kiev mayor re-elections... YAWN... the city is doing great, why
anybody would vote for anyone but Chernovezky is a great mystery.
4) In fact, what shocked me personally, is the attack by Yushenko on
University dean Skopenko. Skopenko has been in this position for last
30 years, and have maintained University at highest level of technical
competitiveness. He is a chemist and was not at all into politics.
If anything, University students were always in the front-lines of
democratic changes and nationalist movement, with silent encouragement
of the professors.
Why this sudden controversy? Is it about inability to guaranty
teaching in Ukrainian? But this is not an easy task to find
appropriate people, if he is to maintain technical professiency of the
proffessors as a priority. If this is the reason, I want to express
my strong opposition to this action. I hope Skopenko will win the
re-election. Hands off the independence of the University!
Long live Chemists! Screw the lawyers!
See, I did find something I am passionate about after all!
:-)
I guess we just have to try...
Regards,
Evgenij
Rostyslaw J. Lewyckyj
My point about this identity that posts as Slawko is, that Slawko posts
a statement similar to his current outburst about once every six months and
nothing more. Attempts to get Slawko to post something longer or in
Ukrainian get nowhere. Slawko apparently does not use a real computer
just that webtv.
As to items which could be, and I would like to see discussed, they are
not current political events. I would like to see some discussions
of topics of Art, Language, CULTURE, and current events of more general
not Political (though everything is political), military, or Economic
international events.
For example I have just acquired a new book a translation into Ukrainian
of Dante Alighieris 'La Divina Commedia INFERNO' .
This translation by Bohdan I Lonchyna was published by the Ukrainian
Catholic University press in 2007.
I'd like to know the opinions of others, especially any who may also
read Italian, on what they think about this translation.
--
Rostyk
is by
Slawko
I like my Webtv because I have a reason for having it, I can't sitt to
long in a chair is that OK with you. What I am interested in: is today's
news or current events in Ukraine, all the good things that are
happening in Ukraine "Lord have Mercy on Us" and show us the way out of
this mass.
I can read all that in English.
Have a nice, good, great day.
Its sickening to read all the other stuff on CSU.
Evgenij Barsukov
>>
> Well Evgeniju
> My point about this identity that posts as Slawko is, that Slawko posts
> a statement similar to his current outburst about once every six months and
> nothing more. Attempts to get Slawko to post something longer or in
> Ukrainian get nowhere. Slawko apparently does not use a real computer
> just that webtv.
> As to items which could be, and I would like to see discussed, they are
> not current political events. I would like to see some discussions
> of topics of Art, Language, CULTURE, and current events of more general
> not Political (though everything is political), military, or Economic
> international events.
> For example I have just acquired a new book a translation into Ukrainian
> of Dante Alighieris 'La Divina Commedia INFERNO' .
> This translation by Bohdan I Lonchyna was published by the Ukrainian
> Catholic University press in 2007.
> I'd like to know the opinions of others, especially any who may also
> read Italian, on what they think about this translation.
This is certainly very ambitious but you might get lucky with this one.
Apparently there are quite a bit of Ukrainian workers in Italian farms,
and many of them hold engineering and wait, maybe even literature degree.
Reasonable assumption is that they learned Italian and still
curious about the literature, and - bingo, you have your pen-pal.
You will need to sent the book to the person in question however,
as I am sure it is both expensive and not easily available in Italy.
In Kiev's Petrovka book market, at the other hand, it is certainly easy
to buy but no Italian speakers to do the comparative analysis.
Btw is Italian so well preserved from Dante's times that you can
still read it in original with normal language skills?
Regards,
Evgenij
Rostyslaw J. Lewyckyj
Rostyslaw J. Lewyckyj
> Thank you very much Rostyk, its the lurker.
> I like my Webtv because I have a reason for having it, I can't sitt to
> long in a chair is that OK with you. What I am interested in: is today's
> news or current events in Ukraine, all the good things that are
> happening in Ukraine "Lord have Mercy on Us" and show us the way out of
> this mass.
> I can read all that in English.
How do you know that? And how do you evaluate the translations that you
can get on your webtv.
> Have a nice, good, great day.
>
> Its sickening to read all the other stuff on CSU.
>
Well then don't read it. :-)
Rostyslaw J. Lewyckyj
> Thank you very much Rostyk, its the lurker.
> I like my Webtv because I have a reason for having it, I can't sitt to
> long in a chair is that OK with you.
In Ukrainian that would be непоседющий
Slawko
I thought this NG was in English for Ukrainian? But now I can see said
the blind man. There are very few Ukes that come here and support each
others. What do you think? I don't go to SCR or other's and help them to
show how they degrade us and we have to defend oursels most of the time.
Or maybe I missed something.
United we stand, separated we fall.
Thats what I see happening in Ukraine.
De dwa sya buyut tretiy korestaye.
Rostyslaw J. Lewyckyj
> "Well then don't read it?"
That's right skip the articles that are irrelevant and off topic.
And don't feed the trolls.
> I thought this NG was in English for Ukrainian? But now I can see said
> the blind man.
So who performed this miracle cure on you?
> There are very few Ukes that come here and support each
> others. What do you think?
Generally. 'Don't feed the trolls!'
>I don't go to SCR or other's and help them to
> show how they degrade us
Good of you not to help them. :-)
Keep up the good work.
> and we have to defend oursels most of the time.
>
> Or maybe I missed something.
Well Yes.
> United we stand, separated we fall.
> Thats what I see happening in Ukraine.
> De dwa sya buyut tretiy korestaye.
>
So what are you doing about it?
--
Rostyk
Evgenij Barsukov
> Thank you very much Rostyk, its the lurker.
> I like my Webtv because I have a reason for having it, I can't sitt to
> long in a chair is that OK with you. What I am interested in: is today's
> news or current events in Ukraine, all the good things that are
> happening in Ukraine "Lord have Mercy on Us" and show us the way out of
Considering that the group is in hierarchy "culture", I think we should
look at Ukrainian culture even outside Ukraine.
One striking example that I observe locally in Dallas is the
Ukrainian dance group Zorya.
http://www.uast.org/Zoria/index.htm
This group was started by Alex and Val Bezney, in
the 1975, and is alive an well today under care of
Andrew Chobany. With separate senior and
junior groups the generation continuity flourishes.
Over the years, group accumulated many dedicated fans. They are giving
performances in all fairs and festivals in Texas. This way thousand of
people are exposed to Ukrainian culture. Many actually learn that
Ukraine exists, that it is has cossacks, farmers, beautiful
costumes and electrifying dances.
Group performances during events of Ukrainian community gives
a perfect effect of unifying people around national idea, and practices
bring together a "club" of many different Ukrainians - these
who speak and does not speak Ukrainian, who grew up in
present day Ukraine or just trying to figure out some 3-4 generations
far roots.
Now that is some free national advertisement and hand-on information
that beats the high-budget initiatives to introduce Ukraine to USA
investors. I think Ukrainian culture officials (and maybe president
himself) should recognize and support Zorya and similar cultural centers
abroad and make people inside Ukrain aware of their existance.
Regards,
Yevgen
fatso
>> Evgenij
>>
> I am not conversant or literate in Italian . :-)
Is it possible to slit the throat of a child and quote from
Dante Alighieri's at the same time?
Apparenty yes, the uke banderovtsy can do it.
At least those cultured ones like that Slavko, who aches in his arse
when sat up for too long.
Never mind, chaps, the devil will have you, pretty soon
fatso
Slawko
Is the bitterness keeps you alive?
Go fatso, go tiger and don't anybody tell you any different, you know it
all and don't loose to much sleep over it.
Have a great day.
fatso
>
APAGE SATANAS
f
Slawko
Can't you talk like a civilized person.
Come on old man:
The past is history and present is a mystory and lets find out what the
future holds for all the old farts. In case you don't know yours
already, l'll tell you 6feet underground. And nobody will give a damn,
after.Can't you you see the light at the end of tunell.
Have a great day.
Slawko
Are you OK?Or are you in bad shape close to the end. Say your peace in
civilized manner.
Have a great day.
fatso
I forgot you are an alien to our western civillisation.
Apage satanas!- the catholic monks would cry away in terror when
confronted with a rezun, knife between his teeth, dripping with blood of
the innocents. It means: go away, Satan!
fatso