Mordercy Dziekanskiego bezkarni (RCMP=Gestapo)
Nomen Nescio
From: "mastermind" <maste...@work.now>
Newsgroups: can.politics,bc.politics
Subject: Killer cops hide behind court appeals
RCMP officers appeal ruling on Taser inquiry's jurisdiction
Tuesday, June 30, 2009 | 1:31 PM - The Canadian Press
Clockwise from top left, Const. Gerry Rundel, Const. Bill Bentley, Cpl. Monty
Robinson and Const. Kwesi Millington were not charged in the death of Robert
Dziekanski. (CBC)
The four RCMP officers involved in Robert Dziekanski's death will appeal a court
decision that allows a provincial public inquiry to make findings of misconduct
against them.
The four Mounties challenged commissioner Thomas Braidwood's authority to allege
misconduct against officers on the federal police force - something the commissioner has warned he'll consider when he writes his final report.
But a B.C. Supreme Court judge recently dismissed their claims, prompting the
officers to take the case to the B.C. Court of Appeal.
A lawyer for the officer who fired the Taser, Const. Kwesi Millington, has already filed his appeal and the others are expected to follow.
David Butcher, who represents Const. Bill Bentley, said the case raises important constitutional questions about a provincial inquiry's authority over federal police officers.
"It involves an analysis of the division of powers between the provincial government and the federal government," said Butcher on Tuesday.
The appeal proceedings will likely unfold at the same time as the Braidwood inquiry into the death of Dziekanski resumes in the fall, said Butcher.
Dziekanski - a Polish immigrant who had just arrived in Canada - died after being jolted several times with a stun gun by RCMP officers at Vancouver International Airport in October 2007.
Prosecutors in B.C. decided last year not to charge the officers, but Braidwood is considering a number of allegations made during the inquiry, including that they lied about what happened at the airport that day.
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 00:53:35 -0700 (MST)
Wladze Kanady oswiadczyly, ze nie przedstawia zarzutow czterem policjantom, ktorzy bestialsko zamordowali Polaka na lotnisku w Vancouver. Policja w Kanadzie jest panstwem w panstwie nie bylo jeszcze przypadku, aby jakis policjant poniosl odpowiedzialnosc karna za swoje czyny.
http://www.ctvbc.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20081211/BC_no_taser_charges_081211/20081211?hub=BritishColumbia
RCMP=Gestapo
From: "Canuck57" <dave-n...@unixhome.net>
Newsgroups: van.general,can.general,bc.general,rec.travel.usa-canada,alt.true-crime
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Subject: Re: Taser Murder Video
"Dave Smith" <adavi...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:473DAA86...@sympatico.ca...
> WTF? wrote:
>> Batons don't kill people like tasers do.
> Batons don't usually kill people because they are used in situations that
> call for less than deadly force. If deadly force were warranted they would
> use their guns. In a situation which turns from one that justifies use of
> a weapon to one that calls for deadly force, a baton can be directed at a
> part of the body that could make it deadly.
>> The central nervous system will
>> not react the same way as 50,000 volts does if hit with a baton. It's
>> not about pain but the effects. He should never been hit with a baton
>> nor tasered.
> Lots of people get tasered, including police being undergoing taser
> training, and suffer only a short jolt of extreme and debilitating
> discomfort.
>> According to your logic, it's acceptable to use whatever force is
>> necessary as long as if there is nothing in the rule book to say
>> otherwise or the RCMP's
> That is not even close to what I said.
>> Incident Management policy which states:
>> "RCMP members are thoroughly trained in its application, and know that
>> preference is always weighted toward the least intrusive approach
>> possible in handling an incident." Didn't seem like the least intrusive
>> approach to me.
> The victim was not compliant. Normally, they would have arrived on the
> scene and escorted the man away. If he resisted, he would be subdued and
> handcuffed and let away. The man resisted, was tasered and even after
> being tased he struggled violently.
>> Of course, since you are "trained" in the use of the baton, you will
>> stick by the cops
>> and whatever action they take even if it is manslaughter or murder.
> Not true. Because I was trained I think that they attempted to subdue the
> man exactly the way they are trained to. I saw no excessive force, only the
> unfortunate result, one of the very few incidents where a taser, a tool
> designed to temporarily disable a person, proved fatal.
>> This all smells of a cover-up, especially with the different version of
>> events that the police and the tape show. At least we have a video tape.
> You must have a bad cold if it smells like a cover-up. It happened in a
> public place. It has been in all the newspapers. The video was released
> to the public. That doesn't happen in a cover-up
I think there is a cover up, or lack of reporting might be more accurate.
We still do not know why he was so agitated and breaking things that led up
to this. There is a story untold here I am sure. As cop haters focus on
the obvious, what is missing is what we should ask.
I believe there is an absence of analysis on why this person became
belligerent and hostile. I have been on planes where people lose their
marbles and pass out. Likely the clammy environment, or whatever they spray
in the air. Or perhaps the low pressures experienced in flight. I had it
explained to me once as most often it is medical. A brain vessel pops or
the brain expands changing behaviour. Which would explain why he was
sweating.
Did they ever autopsy to find out why he was the way he was?
The RCMP is a disgrace. It should be shattered, and reformed with
completely different leadership and attitude. Actually do we need
cops, really? It seems like vigilantes could do a better job than the
joke that is the RCMP. Bury the RCMP and keep it down. They are
probably running a lot of the drugs, they are so corrupt at the highest
levels.
People like Paul Pritchard would be better at it than the RCMP with
their "mad dog" training and attitude.
DEATH TO THE RCMP.
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2007/11/15/bc-taserpoland.html
Canada's ambassador to Poland has been invited to sit down with Polish
officials in Warsaw on Monday to discuss the death of Robert Dziekanski
after he was stunned by an RCMP Taser at Vancouver International
Airport.
Many Poles view it as a case of excessive force by police using a
weapon that may be unsafe, Piotr Ogrodzinski, the Polish ambassador to
Canada, said in Ottawa on Thursday.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/11/16/earlyshow/main3512452.shtml?source=mostpop_story
Airport Taser Death "Shocking, Disgusting"
Man Who Took Video Of Incident In Canadian Airport Describes It To
Hannah Storm
(CBS/AP) The first thing officers did when they got to a man in the
Vancouver, Canada airport last month was taser him, even though we
wasn't resisting them, according to a fellow traveler who videotaped
the incident.
Shortly after being zapped, Robert Dziekanski, 40, died.
http://mvdg.wordpress.com/2007/11/16/the-vancouver-taser-affair-2/
Needless to say, this story is now generating disgust around the world,
the intensity of some of the reactions (and comments on this site) is
quite remarkable. At higher levels reactions have been swift too with a
debate in Canadian parliament yesterday:
�This is a tragic and grievous incident,� Mr. Day told the House of
Commons. �We want to find out answers that can prevent these things
from happening in the future.�
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20071117.BCTASER17/TPStory/National
COWARDLY PIGS, B.C. to review use of tasers
Research to include year-long study focusing on methods and risks of
police restraint
http://thetyee.ca/Bigstory/2007/11/15/TaserVideo/
Taser Video Prompts Review
But the RCMP continues to self-police for now.
By Rob Annandale
Published: November 15, 2007
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TheTyee.ca
The release of a video showing the October tasering death of a Polish
man at Vancouver�s international airport has led to calls for greater
police accountability and prompted a federal review of the use of
50,000-volt electric shocks to subdue suspects.
The amateur footage shows that RCMP officers shocked Robert Dziekanski
twice as he screamed and convulsed before they piled on top of him.
Although Dziekanski had earlier thrown a folding table and a computer
and appears to have had an object in his right hand when he received
the first shock, he looked calm by the time police arrived � contrary
to the RCMP�s initial version of events � and didn't seem to make any
obviously aggressive moves in their presence.
Last week�s tasering of a 68-year-old man man who had double-parked
while delivering a newspaper suggests the RCMP�s use of these devices
isn't restricted to situations of imminent danger to the lives of its
officers. Likewise, the audio of the airport incident reveals the
police had decided to use a taser before even reaching Dziekanski.
Kenneth McVay OBC
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Grosvenor's latest legal challenge:
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