Russian students: among the very best in the World?
Ostap S. B. M. Bender Jr.
the number one country in the entire World in terms of student reading
skills:
http://gia.info.gov.hk/general/200711/29/P200711290121_0121_33971.doc.
PIRLS is administered by the International Association for the
Evaluation of Educational Achievement (IEA) in a five-year cycle to
assess the reading literacy (in mother tongue) of students aged 9 to
10 in the fourth grade.
Rank Countries / Regions Mean Score
1 Russia 565
2 Hong Kong 564
4 Singapore 558
6 Luxembourg 557
8 Italy 551
8 Hungary 551
10 Sweden 549
11 Germany 548
12 Netherlands 547
15 Denmark 546
17 Latvia 541
18 United States 540
19 England 539
37 Georgia 471
Next, Colbert talked about math. Here are the rankings:
http://www.queuenews.com/hidden/hidden-ERRnews-ffffflf&atjfjgiiakljas67684657Jan09.html
TIMSS, the Trends in International Mathematics and Science Study, is
the largest assessment of international student achievement in the
world
Mathematics Achievement at the 4th Grade
Country Score
Hong Kong 607
Singapore 599
Chinese Taipei 576
Japan 568
Kazakhstan 549
Russian Federation 544
England 541
Latvia 537
Netherlands 535
Lithuania 530
United States 529
Germany 525
Denmark 523
Australia 516
Hungary 510
Italy 507
Austria 505
Sweden 503
TIMSS Scale Average 500
Ukraine 469
Georgia 438
The picture in Science is pretty much the same:
Science Achievement at the 4th Grade
Country Average Scale Score
Singapore 587
Chinese Taipei 557
Hong Kong SAR 554
Japan 548
Russian Federation 546
Latvia 542
England 542
United States 539
Hungary 536
Italy 535
Kazakhstan 533
Germany 528
Australia 527
Slovak Republic 526
Austria 526
Sweden 525
Netherlands 523
Slovenia 518
Denmark 517
Czech Republic 515
Lithuania 514
TIMSS Scale Average 500
Ukraine 474
Iran, Islamic Rep. of 436
Georgia 418
Andrius
Russian Universities going down. Fursenko's reforms will bring results
soon.
Regards,
Andrius
The Black Monk
What is the standard deviation to those scores? Because in terms of
raw scores Russia's 546 average in science doesn't seem to be much
higher than the United States' average 539; the literacy and
mathematics discerepancy was only about 20 points. Actually given the
likely racial or economic disparities in the US the study seems to
imply that the average American who doesn't live in a ghetto is about
equivalent to the average Russian (unless, of course, they didn't test
ghetto kids for the study).
The possibility that Russian and American kids are about equal I find
very counterintuitive.
regards,
BM
Vladimir Makarenko
> On Oct 7, 3:43 am, "Ostap S. B. M. Bender Jr."
> <ostap_bender_1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
You probably can find that if you go to the original website but I can
assure you the answer won't be simple number - they most probably use
very lengthy procedure which must include some weighing functions etc.
(There is no universal standard among countries on say what math four
grader must know, therefore they probably weigh individual country
standard against averaged standards of *assumed* leaders, etc).
Anyway as before I find that rating each country individually is only to
feed tabloid pride and obscure real progress and problems. At least to
start one has to break all countries into groups and if make rating then
to make them inside groups.
But one thing obvious: Russia's effort since 2001 to restore educational
system is working.
VM.
Ostap S. B. M. Bender Jr.
So do I. My son in 6th grade in USA (straight A student) knows less
math than I did in 3rd grade in USSR.
The Black Monk
>
OTOH a lot of people in Russia complain that the schools there have
gone downhill since Soviet times.
regards,
BM
Ostap S. B. M. Bender Jr.
My suspicion is that in the 1990s, the Russian educators copied the
American curriculum. I base it on what I found out as part of my
teaching maht to my own son. The Russian math curriculum seems
suspiciously like a copy of the USA's one.
captain!
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private school ftw.
Ostap S. B. M. Bender Jr.
> "Ostap S. B. M. Bender Jr." <ostap_bender_1...@hotmail.com> wrote in messagenews:2c6acef1-21e3-4624...@x5g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
Actually, private schools have the same curricula as public schools.