Yellow Turn-a-coat
Magnus
by Wichit CHANTANUSORNSIRI
The Council of State is being asked to speed up its ruling on whether
the government can legally tap revenues from the two- and three- digit
lotteries for use in stimulating the economy.
A Government Lottery Office source said economic ministers met
yesterday and wanted the council to find out if there was a law which
allowed the government access to the lottery earnings.
A new law would have to be drafted if there was not one in place
already, the source said. Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva said he had
asked the GLO to seek Council of State advice on the status of the 17
billion baht earned from the two- and three-digit lottery. The legal
advice is needed because the GLO cannot specify whether or not the
revenue is available for use by the government.
Mr Abhisit said the status of the revenue was unclear. It has been
said the lottery, introduced by the Thaksin Shinawatra administration,
was illegal and this cast a cloud over how the earnings could be
spent. Forty-seven people, including ministers in the Thaksin
government, were found to be at fault by the now-disbanded Asset
Scrutiny Committee over the unlawful launch of the scheme in 2003.
The source said Deputy Finance Minister Pradit Phataraprasit, who
oversees the GLO, planned to sponsor a draft bill permitting the use
of the funds. The government needs the money to help finance its
economic stimulus programmes (...)
full text at:
www.bangkokpost.com/news/local/13187/govt-presses-for-lottery-ruling
-
The hypocrisy of the PAD seems to have no limit.
When TS promoted it, the yellow rats squealt it was only an act of
corruption and immorality! Actually, they put down a lot of
educational projects with their stupid fanatism.
:-(
Mort
LarbGai
> The hypocrisy of the PAD seems to have no limit.
> When TS promoted it, the yellow rats squealt it was only an act of
> corruption and immorality! Actually, they put down a lot of
> educational projects with their stupid fanatism.
>
> :-(
> Mort
******More Thai bashing by the Magnum.
Reported to Google
Good Soldier Schweik
>Govt presses for lottery ruling
>by Wichit CHANTANUSORNSIRI
>
>The Council of State is being asked to speed up its ruling on whether
>the government can legally tap revenues from the two- and three- digit
>lotteries for use in stimulating the economy.
>
>A Government Lottery Office source said economic ministers met
>yesterday and wanted the council to find out if there was a law which
>allowed the government access to the lottery earnings.
snipped for brevity
>
>-
>The hypocrisy of the PAD seems to have no limit.
>When TS promoted it, the yellow rats squealt it was only an act of
>corruption and immorality! Actually, they put down a lot of
>educational projects with their stupid fanatism.
>
>:-(
>Mort
One wonders about hypocrisy. One wonders why the Magnificent Ort
doesn't right the wrongs in his own domicile before striking out for
foreign lands:
FRANCE: Liberty, Equality, Fraternity?
Women in France ask why their human rights are being abused
In France, a woman dies every four days after being beaten by her
partner. More than half of those women killed have previously been
subjected to domestic violence. Domestic violence is a human rights
abuse.
Why are the rights of these women not protected?
In a country which claims to be the cradle of human rights and is
signatory of the main human rights treaties, women\u2019s rights to
liberty, equality, security and sometimes the right to life, are often
abused. While these rights must be respected and guaranteed by the
French government, the reality is that both the prevention of domestic
violence and the protection of victims are relatively ineffective.
The magistrate: "The charge is that you assaulted a person."
The accused: "But it wasn't a person sir, it was my wife."
- Quote presented by a police commander to the Seminar on Violence
against Women and the Law, held on 31 March 2005.
cheers,
Schweik
(goodsoldierschweikatgmaildotcom)
Good Soldier Schweik
wrote:
But, it is Liberty, Equality, Fraternity for all.
or is it, restricted to the white, French, "all"?
cheers,
Schweik
(goodsoldierschweikatgmaildotcom)
slambert
news.free.fr!xref-2.proxad.net!spooler2c-1.proxad.net!cleanfeed1-a.proxad.net!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!newsfeed.straub-nv.de!news.motzarella.org!
>yourself from an invasion by the small nose races.
abuse.
Stef
slambert
> /snip usual anti french crap
=> abuse
You will stop this game before me.
Ste
LarbGai
wrote:
> abuse.
>
> Stef
*******No........Self abuse. You want to leave it alone for a bit
Stefanie.
slambert
> > abuse.
> *******No........Self abuse. You want
> to leave it alone for a bit
When it will be over and when it will STOP.
> Stefanie.
My name is Stéphane . Please stop destroying my name. Stephanie is for
girls. If you can't understand that, so try Stephen.
Stef
LarbGai
wrote:
> "LarbGai" <larb...@lycos.com> wrote
*******Sorry Stefanie.
slambert
LarbGai
wrote:
> "LarbGai" <larb...@lycos.com> wrote
>
> > *******Sorry Stefanie.
>
> No worries LambGuy.
>
> Stef
********ROTFLMAO
Te mutunga ke mai o te rori o te tangata
slambert
>> > *******Sorry Stefanie.
>> No worries LambGuy.
> Te mutunga ke mai o te rori o te tangata
C'est pas grave, à la tienne, santé, tu t'en remettras.
Stef
Taking The Piss
news:49ba48d0$0$20352$426a...@news.free.fr...
>
> When it will be over and when it will STOP.
555555555555555555555555
When Eastern and Christmas will fall together ....
> My name is Stéphane . Please stop destroying my name. Stephanie is for
> girls. If you can't understand that, so try Stephen.
Or would you prefer SALAMI BERT ?
> Stef
>
>
slambert
>> My name is Stéphane . Please stop destroying my name. Stephanie is for
>> girls. If you can't understand that, so try Stephen.
> Or would you prefer SALAMI BERT ?
This clown place smell smart, bright and intelligent notices.
Stef
Good Soldier Schweik
wrote:
>On Mar 14, 12:51 am, "slambert" <slambertNOSPAMPLE...@vediovis.net>
Your name is Stephane, known as Stephen but called Stef? Are you sure
that you are a real person? Are you trying to hide your identity?
cheers,
Schweik
(goodsoldierschweikatgmaildotcom)
Good Soldier Schweik
See, his name is Stephane pronounced as Stephanie, oh no; pronounced
as Stephen and he signs his messages as Stef......
This lad is just a wee bit confused.... a few candles short of a
candelabra.
cheers,
Schweik
(goodsoldierschweikatgmaildotcom)
slambert
> Your name is Stephane, known as Stephen but called Stef? Are you sure
> that you are a real person? Are you trying to hide your identity?
So funny to read that from somebody using a pseudo and a false email to hide
his real identity.
Insulting people hidden behind a keyboard: local definition of "courage",
maybe?
Stef
LarbGai
wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Mar 2009 19:47:35 +0700, "Taking The Piss"
>
>
>
>
>
> <Bl...@Runner.com> wrote:
> >news:49ba48d0$0$20352$426a...@news.free.fr...
>
> >> When it will be over and when it will STOP.
>
> >555555555555555555555555
>
> >When Eastern and Christmas will fall together ....
>
> >> My name is Stéphane . Please stop destroying my name. Stephanie is for
> >> girls. If you can't understand that, so try Stephen.
>
> >Or would you prefer SALAMI BERT ?
>
> >> Stef
>
> See, his name is Stephane pronounced as Stephanie, oh no; pronounced
> as Stephen and he signs his messages as Stef......
>
> This lad is just a wee bit confused.... a few candles short of a
> candelabra.
>
> cheers,
>
> Schweik
******* I'm almost convinced it's our old mate Kramer back to play
games.
He was always moaning about others using a false name whilst he was
playing with his many sock puppets.
We will watch and see what develops.
maxwell
> "Good Soldier Schweik" > /snip usual anti french crap
> => abuse
> You will stop this game before me.
> Ste
. . and your game of ignoring your compatriot's pissing on Thailand ?
You discarded:
>The hypocrisy of the PAD seems to have no limit. When TS promoted it, the
>yellow rats squealt it was only an act of
>corruption and immorality! Actually, they put down a lot of
>educational projects with their stupid fanatism.
>:-( Mort
'yellow rats' Mort calls the PAD, and similarly refers to the current Prime
Minister, the Thai army, and though Mort has typically weaseled away from
answering such challenges as "So, Mort, if PAD are as you say 'nazis,' then
who do you say is their Hitler"--it's damn well true that by implication
there is no shortage of libelous rot from the foul frog.
In the text above, no showing was made of 'fanaticism' by PAD or of 'putting
down educational projects,' while Abhisit's advocacy of a higher minimum
wage, free education, textbooks and milk for nursery-school children, are
all measures that go to betterment of the lives of Thai far less privileged
than Abhisit himself.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7780309.stm
. . and we might note that during the years of Thaksin's would-be
autocracy, NO STEPS were taken by Thaksin/TRT toward raising the minimum
wage or even toward ENFORCING the piss-poor minimum wage paid upcountry,
yes, in those places that Thaksin/TRT/PPP claimed to be standing for even
*beyond* their widespread buying of votes.
(oh, and f.y.i., cher 'Saint' Stefan, it was while 'mort' and Schweik argued
over the true nature of Thaksinite politics that the 'great leader's
foul-mouthed french sycophant' went from an appearance of reasonable
argumentation with Schweik to throwing the same merde as 'mort' also throws
at many a poster and at many a Thai--merde that *you* go nuts about when
such is thrown at la france . .vive le difference, eh? ;~)
Now if you still give a care about THAI topicality (as you seemingly did in
December '08), why are the vast majority of your postings as intentionally
ignorant of THAI-related content as Mort's are venomously condemnatory of
not only Democrats and the PAD, as well as of many other things Thai, but of
any posters who oppose the 'Mortian' output of utter merde?
oh, that's right--you're here to defend la france, and what concern might
you have about defending Thailand against vicious slurs thrown at THAI by a
French foul-mouthed one, here at, what is it 'scf ' ? 8~)
PG
"maxwell" <mmma...@hotmail.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
FNRul.124$6%.101@nwrddc01.gnilink.net...
The trouble is Maxwell that although you make a lot of sense in some posts,
you go way over the top ref. 'Mort'. I'm having trouble crediting the rest
of your responses with the respect they deserve, as a result. A shame,
because otherwise, vendettas aside, there's some potentially interesting
points being made.
But as a Brit who spends as much time criticising the French as supporting
them (when the occasion demands), imho certain inhabitants of sct are
showing a fundamental anti-French/anti-Frenchman bias and intolerance that
is quite simply not supported by the facts.
Now I associate PAD, the military and certain other interest groups with a
particular, almost feudal philosophy that has pervaded Thailand, its social
structure and politics for a very long time. I base this on attending
demonstrations of both hues, interviewing their leaders, and talking to
'grass roots' supporters. That isn't to say that there aren't various other
criticisms that can be levelled at Thaksin and his methods. But the links
between the aforementioned groups and the Democrats are hard to deny, and
Mort isn't too far off the mark in his argument even if the language is
occasionally OTT.
Bangkok Pundit provides an excellent insight into all this via his blog.
pg
maxwell
"PG" <pg...@alpesprovence.net> wrote in message
news:49bc0c56$0$17771$ba4a...@news.orange.fr...
You're only a dog from New Jersey who trolled this group years ago, posting
under another name.
<barking snipped, ala 'mort'>
. . now after you digest the fallacy and offensiveness of that remark, and
the dismissive snippage of your post,
tell me again I'm 'going over the top' ref. 'Mort' ;~)
PG
rather improbable, would it not?
> <barking snipped, ala 'mort'>
>
> . . now after you digest the fallacy and offensiveness of that remark, and
> the dismissive snippage of your post,
> tell me again I'm 'going over the top' ref. 'Mort' ;~)
You are going over the top ref Mort, imo.
You are welcome to attempt to substantiate the alleged "fallacy" and
"offensiveness", but as it stands, it is mere assertion. Still I have to say
that your kneejerk response does fit with your previous attacks on Mort.
pg
pg
maxwell
> "maxwell" a écrit ...
>> "PG" wrote ...
>>> "maxwell" a écrit ...
so, PG having hopped in to offer an opinion of the ad hominem variety, also
avoided the THAI topicality.
>> You're only a dog from New Jersey who trolled this group years ago,
>> posting under another name.
>>
> As a Brit who has never so much as set foot in the US, that would seem
> rather improbable, would it not?
>
>> <barking snipped, ala 'mort'>
>>
>> . . now after you digest the fallacy and offensiveness of that remark,
>> and the dismissive snippage of your post,
>> tell me again I'm 'going over the top' ref. 'Mort' ;~)
>
> You are going over the top ref Mort, imo.
repeating an opinion is just that: repetition.
> You are welcome to attempt to substantiate the alleged "fallacy" and
> "offensiveness", but as it stands, it is mere assertion.
'mere assertion'?
Very well.
heh. I suppose I should take opportunity to imply you're a liar whenever
opportune, but that sort of junk has little appeal to me.
You want substantiation? Fine.
Proof:
(gratutious baiting):
http://tinyurl.com/asc8np
these specifically with false accusations added to the slanderous sliming
from the foul frog:
http://tinyurl.com/ac44gs
http://tinyurl.com/cv5ngj
there is more, if the above *somehow* does not suffice, say from a transient
blindness, perhaps.
> Still I have to say that your kneejerk response does fit with your
> previous attacks on Mort.
uh, right. sure, pg.
-maxwell
PG
>>> You're only a dog from New Jersey who trolled this group years ago,
>>> posting under another name.
>>>
>> As a Brit who has never so much as set foot in the US, that would seem
>> rather improbable, would it not?
>>
I see you fail to acknowledge your mistake, and fail to withdraw your
personal attack.
>>> <barking snipped, ala 'mort'>
Ad hominem, points snipped and left unaddressed.
>>> . . now after you digest the fallacy and offensiveness of that remark,
>>> and the dismissive snippage of your post,
>>> tell me again I'm 'going over the top' ref. 'Mort' ;~)
>>
>> You are going over the top ref Mort, imo.
>
> repeating an opinion is just that: repetition.
>
I merely did what you asked, ie to "tell you again" that you are "going over
the top ref Mort".
>> You are welcome to attempt to substantiate the alleged "fallacy" and
>> "offensiveness", but as it stands, it is mere assertion.
>
> 'mere assertion'?
>
> Very well.
> heh. I suppose I should take opportunity to imply you're a liar whenever
> opportune, but that sort of junk has little appeal to me.
> You want substantiation? Fine.
>
> Proof:
> (gratutious baiting):
> http://tinyurl.com/asc8np
>
> these specifically with false accusations added to the slanderous sliming
> from the foul frog:
> http://tinyurl.com/ac44gs
> http://tinyurl.com/cv5ngj
So you bait each other. Your baiting is somehow above board, while his
isn't? All seems pretty infantile to me.
> there is more, if the above *somehow* does not suffice, say from a
> transient blindness, perhaps.
>
>> Still I have to say that your kneejerk response does fit with your
>> previous attacks on Mort.
>
> uh, right. sure, pg.
You called me a 'dog'. That's ok, is it, in your book?
pg
slambert
>> "Good Soldier Schweik" > /snip usual anti french crap
>> => abuse
>> You will stop this game before me.
> . . and your game of ignoring your compatriot's pissing on Thailand ?
I already answered about that. I just arrived and I don't know what happened
before. Modulo a demand a couple of months ago I never really read this
newsgroup.
I do insist to make stops insults concerning me made by cowards hidden
behind an anonymous pseudo and their dirty keyboard. And Ido insist to make
stop obvious constant anti French racism.
If anybody insults you, you have to react on your own to defend your own
liberties. I'm sorry but I am not your father or Zorro and you will have to
take care of your own susceptibility per yourself if you think you have
reasons to do it. I am not your super hero and I am quite afraid you won't
find any but yourself when your own ass will start to be painfull.
Stef
slambert
> them (when the occasion demands), imho certain inhabitants of sct are
> showing a fundamental anti-French/anti-Frenchman bias and intolerance that
> is quite simply not supported by the facts.
This is the point and it will have to stop as it is a penal offense.
Individuals conflict and personal feelings are something, public insults,
image degradations and offensive racism are punished by law.
Stef
slambert
/snip
You have to take care of your problems on your own, and I am for nothing
about them.
Anyway regards to what I read here since one week, I really question myself
about the kind of constant provocations you could have write here for ages.
But as now, you know something is going to happen if you continue of this
line, I do hope a return to normal. If you really are obsessed in "Mort", so
you are going to resolve your troubles with "Mort" like the big boy you are
today (even if the "big boy" is an anonymous coward posting under a false
name and attacking people using their real name with public address on the
internet.). If you are a real fascist and racist, you will have to go to
vomit your fiel elsewhere, maybe in your bathroom.
Stef
maxwell
Yeah, I made it perfectly clear it was a 'by example':
<q>. . now after you digest the fallacy and offensiveness of that remark,
and
the dismissive snippage of your post, tell me again I'm 'going over the top'
ref. 'Mort' ;~)
>>>>
>>> As a Brit who has never so much as set foot in the US, that would seem
>>> rather improbable, would it not?
Yeah, and as one who's never posted to usenet as other than maxwell and at
no other email address than seen in the headers, and who's also not a dog
from new jersey, the only mistake is yours, of simple comprehension here.
Bullshit.
The slanderous accusation of my having deceived and trolled under a previous
ID is a substantive one.
> Your baiting is somehow above board, while his isn't? All seems pretty
> infantile to me.
You're just abetting a troll.
>
>> there is more, if the above *somehow* does not suffice, say from a
>> transient blindness, perhaps.
>>
>>> Still I have to say that your kneejerk response does fit with your
>>> previous attacks on Mort.
>>
>> uh, right. sure, pg.
>
> You called me a 'dog'. That's ok, is it, in your book?
work on your comprehension.
you were not called a dog, but simply given a taste of how serious arguments
are treated by this foul-mouthed frog you would rather mahe apologetics for
than to stay with the topic.
>
> pg
>
maxwell
> "maxwell" <mmma...@hotmail.com> wrote
> /snip
(and thus avoiding ALL THAI-related topicality)
Something about 'keeping it ad hominem' this lambert feels is more important
than the *T* of SCT?
Yeah, clearly this lambert is no bright candle, or figures he's the new
group boss, LOL ! ;~)
> If you are a real fascist and racist, you will have to go to vomit your
> fiel elsewhere, maybe in your bathroom.
Tsk. Surely you can bait much better than that, and baiting is all that was.
As for fascism, look in the mirror, as only you made you the new moderator
here.
So, you're shaping up as just another troll; pity that--and your 'sense of
ethical propriety' is apparently just a pose of convenience.
maxwell
slambert
> Yeah, clearly this lambert is no bright candle, or figures he's the new
> group boss, LOL ! ;~)
Nothing about management or boss.
I just require the end of Anti French racism, and the end of insults and
personal attacks against me. And you will see it will happen.
Once anti french sentences and personal pickings will have disappeared,
everything will be back to normal.
These demands are normal and regular.
Stef
LarbGai
wrote:
> Nothing about management or boss.
>
> I just require the end of Anti French racism, and the end of insults and
> personal attacks against me. And you will see it will happen.
>
> Once anti french sentences and personal pickings will have disappeared,
> everything will be back to normal.
>
> These demands are normal and regular.
>
> Stef
*******This bloke is a bigger Nutter than Kramer and Tchiowa put
together.
Sir Magnus, you must be real proud to call this peanut a fellow
countryman.
Thank God the sheep down here are are at least normal.
slambert
> Thank God the sheep down here are are at least normal.
Don't try to make people look away.
You are the agressor here, everything came from you and the Shweilk.
You can post parts of old post out of context to try to hidde your saying
but you will fool nobody there.
Like in the email I sent you in private, I'm asking you to stop your
agressions and your constant anti french racism you post here for months.
Stef
Good Soldier Schweik
wrote:
Maxwell, they won't answer.
Mort appears to be a firm believer in Thaksin, constantly chanting the
mantra "he was elected". And now that his god is seen to have feet of
clay he is put in the position of having espoused a false god which is
unacceptable to his delicate ego. Apparently to admit that he was
wrong will be such a blow to his self-esteem that he cannot face
reality and is reduced to making his underhanded little gibes at
everything Thai.
His cohort, on the other hand is simply a fool, and in his foolishness
is following the old belief that "the enemy of my enemy is my friend",
even though Mort apparently has never acknowledged his existence.
Logic, or reasoning, is hardly their strong point and of course they
cannot respond to any well thought out critique as to do so would
result in their firmly held beliefs being destroyed and leaving them
with the knowledge that they are simply fools who pursued a false god
in search of their fifteen minutes of fame and fell flat on their
face.
The present government appears to be gaining adherents in leaps and
bounds. They seem to travel when and where they want without serious
interference from the "Red Shirts" as they are refereed to in the
news, and it is apparent that more and more Thais are appreciative of
what is happening.
Thus, the opposition, which certainly includes Mort, is reduced to
seizing on tiny little bits of inanity to criticize.
But in reality, they have no answers.
cheers,
Schweik
(goodsoldierschweikatgmaildotcom)
LarbGai
wrote:
> "LarbGai" <larb...@lycos.com> wrote
******** Lets see if I've got this right.
You can insult me and make racist comments about me to your hearts
content but if I retaliate you will report me.
That sounds very fair...........................;-)
They had to burn down the school to get her out of third grade.
slambert
> ******** Lets see if I've got this right.
> You can insult me and make racist comments about me to your hearts
> content but if I retaliate you will report me.
> That sounds very fair...........................;-)
You don't make the laws and the rules. So I don't.
I don't insult people. I have a personal problem with insults on the
internet for years, I've never tolerated them and I will never do.
Agressions like yours just make me reply like a machine, with the process I
desrcribed you earlier: usenet, usenent posting platform, your provider,
civil law.
You just stop, and it will be fine.
Errrr, fine... You will have to manage with your provider, googlegroups and
Lycos probably this Monday, but if you stop now I will stop reporting you.
Stef
PG
No, you most certainly did not.
You wrote (without the <q></q>, obviously):
<q>You're only a dog from New Jersey who trolled this group years ago,
posting
under another name.
<barking snipped, ala 'mort'> </q>
For the sake of clarification, and hopefully for better mutual comprehension
in the future, may I suggest that when you quote someone, you indicate as
such via conventional means - such as quotation marks, or <q></q>, or
whatever takes your fancy just so long as it doesn't lead to
misinterpretation, as in this instance. If it is not a word for word quote,
there are alternative means of making this clear - which you did not use.
And to make doubly sure, do not add to the confusion by using an
expression - a la 'mort' - in the wrong context. "a la" means 'in the manner
of'. Seeing as you had just snipped a major chunk of my earlier post, and
then write "barking snipped, ala (sic) 'mort'", the responsibility for any
misunderstanding is entirely down to you.
> <q>. . now after you digest the fallacy and offensiveness of that remark,
> and
> the dismissive snippage of your post, tell me again I'm 'going over the
> top' ref. 'Mort' ;~)
>
That, in your original post, simply did not make sense, and appeared to be
some kind of sensitive overreaction to my criticism of your style. In the
light of your explanation, it now makes sense. However my comprehension is
not at fault, seeing as you failed completely to show that the 'dog' comment
was allegedly Mort's, by conventional means anyway.
>>>> As a Brit who has never so much as set foot in the US, that would seem
>>>> rather improbable, would it not?
>
> Yeah, and as one who's never posted to usenet as other than maxwell and at
> no other email address than seen in the headers, and who's also not a dog
> from new jersey, the only mistake is yours, of simple comprehension here.
>
Not at all. Entirely down to you. Had you used quote marks, a link, or
specifically written "Mort accused me of .../... " etc, there would have
been no misunderstanding.
Substantiate it. But in doing so, do remember that in unmoderated usenet
discussions things get heated and 'slander' (you mean 'libel' I presume,
unless you have met Mort, or the more general term 'defamation') is rarely
if ever acted upon.
>> Your baiting is somehow above board, while his isn't? All seems pretty
>> infantile to me.
>
> You're just abetting a troll.
Hardly. You went on about his anti-Thai comments. I replied by giving my
views on PAD and its support structure, and suggested why Mort's original
comment was not anti-Thai, just anti an aspect (iho) of Thai politics. You
then snipped and ignored the whole passage I wrote.
>>> there is more, if the above *somehow* does not suffice, say from a
>>> transient blindness, perhaps.
>>>
>>>> Still I have to say that your kneejerk response does fit with your
>>>> previous attacks on Mort.
>>>
>>> uh, right. sure, pg.
>>
>> You called me a 'dog'. That's ok, is it, in your book?
>
> work on your comprehension.
> you were not called a dog, but simply given a taste of how serious
> arguments are treated by this foul-mouthed frog you would rather mahe
> apologetics for than to stay with the topic.
Nothing wrong with my comprehension, just your methods of written
expression. Give your pot some serious scouring, and treat my arguments with
the respect you claim your own are owed. I made a serious point that
anti-PAD does not equate to anti-Thai, and you ignored it. You are
responsible for this entire waste of space of a sub-thread because you
failed to make clear that you were quoting Mort.
pg
pg
LarbGai
wrote:
> You just stop, and it will be fine.
>
> Errrr, fine... You will have to manage with your provider, googlegroups and
> Lycos probably this Monday, but if you stop now I will stop reporting you.
>
> Stef
******And STOP sending me invitations to join your Gay Group in
Ireland.
You are disgusting.
;-(
maxwell
^^ libelous rot, 'pg'
>>>>>>>> In the text above, no showing was made of 'fanaticism' by PAD or of
>>>>>>>> 'putting down educational projects,' while Abhisit's advocacy of a
>>>>>>>> higher minimum wage, free education, textbooks and milk for
>>>>>>>> nursery-school children, are all measures that go to betterment of
>>>>>>>> the lives of Thai far less privileged than Abhisit himself.
>>>>>>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7780309.stm
^^ any proof these are but empty words by Abhisit, 'pg,' (or is only proof
demanded of other posters, in order to then ignore such?)
>>>>>>>> . . and we might note that during the years of Thaksin's would-be
>>>>>>>> autocracy, NO STEPS were taken by Thaksin/TRT toward raising the
>>>>>>>> minimum wage or even toward ENFORCING the piss-poor minimum wage
>>>>>>>> paid upcountry, yes, in those places that Thaksin/TRT/PPP claimed
>>>>>>>> to be standing for even *beyond* their widespread buying of votes.
^^ This contention goes to the gist of the argument that Thaksin/TRT/PPP is
no 'people's party' (the pittance of electoral bribes paid out is but a
fraction of the gains made by would-be lords of 'their' fief of Thailand via
illegal underpaying of labour.
>>>>>>>> (oh, and f.y.i., cher 'Saint' Stefan, it was while 'mort' and
>>>>>>>> Schweik argued over the true nature of Thaksinite politics that the
>>>>>>>> 'great leader's foul-mouthed french sycophant' went from an
>>>>>>>> appearance of reasonable argumentation with Schweik to throwing the
>>>>>>>> same merde as 'mort' also throws at many a poster and at many a
>>>>>>>> Thai--merde that *you* go nuts about when such is thrown at la
>>>>>>>> france . .vive le difference, eh? ;~)
^^this, too, can also be substantiated by going to google>groups>advanced
search>(group:sct> topic(s), authors . . {oh, that's right, 'pg,' you're
playing the 'show me the substance' game (proof to then be ignored) while
offering no substance for your own 'doubtful posturing' } ;~)
as 'twas no vebatim quote, the suffixed:
<q>. . now after you digest the fallacy and offensiveness of that remark,
and the dismissive snippage of your post, tell me again I'm 'going over the
top' ref. 'Mort' ;~)
SHOULD have sufficed!
"fallacy" <(not true of you, nor of me)
"offensiveness" <(ahh, you got *that* part ;~)
. . you're even now still with the comprehension issues, eh?
yah, sure.
> And to make doubly sure, do not add to the confusion by using an
> expression - a la 'mort' - in the wrong context. "a la" means 'in the
> manner of'.
yes, in the maaner of.
have some coffee or whatever serves to enable a bit of 'keeping up'
Seeing as you had just snipped a major chunk of my earlier post, and
> then write "barking snipped, ala (sic) 'mort'", the responsibility for any
> misunderstanding is entirely down to you.
LOL !
So, I wrote 'snipped in the manner of mort' whilst discussing the manner of
mort, and cher 'pg' comprehends not?
uh huh.
>> <q>. . now after you digest the fallacy and offensiveness of that remark,
>> and the dismissive snippage of your post, tell me again I'm 'going over
>> the top' ref. 'Mort' ;~)
> That, in your original post, simply did not make sense,
. . answered above . .
> and appeared to be some kind of sensitive overreaction to my criticism of
> your style. In the light of your explanation, it now makes sense.
the personal phenomenology of (your) miscomprehension is not a proper demand
criterion, save for 'by your fiat'
> However my comprehension is not at fault, seeing as you failed completely
> to show that the 'dog' comment was allegedly Mort's, by conventional means
> anyway.
. . ^^further repetitive 'by your rulings' . .
>>>>> As a Brit who has never so much as set foot in the US, that would seem
>>>>> rather improbable, would it not?
>>
>> Yeah, and as one who's never posted to usenet as other than maxwell and
>> at no other email address than seen in the headers, and who's also not a
>> dog from new jersey, the only mistake is yours, of simple comprehension
>> here.
>>
> Not at all. Entirely down to you. Had you used quote marks, a link, or
> specifically written "Mort accused me of .../... " etc, there would have
> been no misunderstanding.
"ala mort"
"fallacy"
. . .but oh gosh, one must write as if to a marginally-fluent simple-minded
reader in order to be comprehended by 'pg,' (who in a great number of
instances has demonstrated such dearth of comprehension is NOT present) - -
and if not, it is 'down to me'?
uh huh.
That was done above.
But in doing so, do remember that in unmoderated usenet discussions things
get heated and 'slander' (you mean 'libel' I presume,
> unless you have met Mort, or the more general term 'defamation') is rarely
> if ever acted upon.
libels are written slanders, and yes, both are forms of defamation. thank
you for the pedantic prompt.
>>> Your baiting is somehow above board, while his isn't? All seems pretty
>>> infantile to me.
>>
>> You're just abetting a troll.
>
> Hardly. You went on about his anti-Thai comments. I replied by giving my
> views on PAD and its support structure, and suggested why Mort's original
> comment was not anti-Thai, just anti an aspect (iho) of Thai politics. You
> then snipped and ignored the whole passage I wrote.
Now that you've had the taste of 'Mortian' trollishness, note that
defamation of Thais as an expression of disapproval of an aspect of Thai
politics is defamation, nonetheless.
>
>>>> there is more, if the above *somehow* does not suffice, say from a
>>>> transient blindness, perhaps.
>>>>
>>>>> Still I have to say that your kneejerk response does fit with your
>>>>> previous attacks on Mort.
>>>>
>>>> uh, right. sure, pg.
>>>
>>> You called me a 'dog'. That's ok, is it, in your book?
>>
>> work on your comprehension.
>> you were not called a dog, but simply given a taste of how serious
>> arguments are treated by this foul-mouthed frog you would rather mahe
>> apologetics for than to stay with the topic.
>
> Nothing wrong with my comprehension, just your methods of written
> expression.
. .. . answered previously, above . ..
:::this *does* get stale rather rapidly, pg::::
>Give your pot some serious scouring, and treat my arguments with the
respect you claim your own are owed.
. . and *you* speak of 'pctkb' ? ;~)
>I made a serious point that anti-PAD does not equate to anti-Thai,
a contention is not a point until proven .. but of course you know that.
Again, defamation of PAD is defamation of Thais, and as the colour yellow is
the natal colour of His Majesty (PAD makes no secret of Royalist leanings)
the mortian miscreance of "yellow rats" along with the mortian calling of
PAD and their supporters as nazis is deeply defamatory.
>and you ignored it.
Ah, right, I gave you a taste.
<now quoting you, with my comments inline>
>Now I associate PAD, the military and certain other interest groups with a
>particular, almost feudal philosophy that has pervaded Thailand, its social
>structure and politics for a very long time.
Almost feudal, yes, and Thaksin/TRT running a rubber stamp parliament as a
veritable duma of wealth distribution is assuredly feudal, as is the
corruption of courts to the end of enabling Constitutionally-constrained
improprieties.
> I base this on attending demonstrations of both hues, interviewing their
> leaders, and talking to 'grass roots' supporters.
While I base my claim on demonstrable facts, i.e., of legislation, of the
criminal law, and of financial miscreance and chicanery.
I rather prefer the substantive; it seems you also do . . at certain times
.. ;~)
>That isn't to say that there aren't various other criticisms that can be
>levelled at Thaksin and his methods. But the links
between the aforementioned groups and the Democrats are hard to deny, and
Mort isn't too far off the mark in his argument even if the language is
occasionally OTT.
Rather routinely and denigatorily OTT does not equal 'occasionally'
I'd be pleased to see some examples of there EVER being the 'non-occasional
non-defamtory' from the mortian merde-mouthed one.
> You are responsible for this entire waste of space of a sub-thread because
> you failed to make clear that you were quoting Mort.
Surely it could not be the infallible pg's non-comprehension at the root of
his discontent.
Righto ;~)
maxwell
"slambert" wrote:
> "LarbGai" wrote
> > Thank God the sheep down here are are at least normal.
Ahh, but wooly believe it ? 8~)
> Don't try to make people look away.
> You are the agressor here, everything came from you and the Shweilk.
> You can post parts of old post out of context to try to hidde your saying
> but you will fool nobody there.
> Like in the email I sent you in private, I'm asking you to stop your
> agressions and your constant anti french racism you post here for months.
> Stef
******** Lets see if I've got this right.
You can insult me and make racist comments about me to your hearts content
. . while the foul frog whose feces flinging at Thai initiated this thread
evokes no censure from the censorious one.
But, hey, just a colonialist's, umm, doit de Seigneur Magnus, eh? ;~)
but if I retaliate you will report me.
That sounds very fair...........................;-)
.. oh, most marvelously so 8~)
maxwell
.. and all of this of negligible interest to condescending french twits
;~)
>>(oh, and f.y.i., cher 'Saint' Stefan, it was while 'mort' and Schweik
>>argued over the true nature of Thaksinite politics that the 'great
>>leader's foul-mouthed french sycophant' went from an appearance of
>>reasonable argumentation with Schweik to throwing the same merde as 'mort'
>>also throws at many a poster and at many a Thai--merde that *you* go nuts
>>about when such is thrown at la france . .vive le difference, eh? ;~)
. . am I surprised that when PG was shown the proof, he just danced away ?
8~)
>>Now if you still give a care about THAI topicality (as you seemingly did
>>in December '08), why are the vast majority of your postings as
>>intentionally ignorant of THAI-related content as Mort's are venomously
>>condemnatory of not only Democrats and the PAD, as well as of many other
>>things Thai, but of any posters who oppose the 'Mortian' output of utter
>>merde?
>>oh, that's right--you're here to defend la france, and what concern might
>>you have about defending Thailand against vicious slurs thrown at THAI by
>>a French foul-mouthed one, here at, what is it 'scf ' ? 8~)
> Maxwell, they won't answer.
Heavens, Schweik, why then they'd be discussing THAILAND . . and not merely
running interference for the trash-mouthing by some sig-changing troll who's
a compatriot cousin.
> Mort appears to be a firm believer in Thaksin, constantly chanting the
> mantra "he was elected".
Well, it's true that TS/TRT/PPP b(r)ought in the vote ;~)
>And now that his god is seen to have feet of clay he is put in the
position of having espoused a false god which is unacceptable to his
delicate ego. Apparently to admit that he was wrong will be such a blow to
his self-esteem that he cannot face reality and is reduced to making his
underhanded little gibes at everything Thai.
I recall these jibes preceded square face's fugitive flight.
> His cohort, on the other hand is simply a fool, and in his foolishness is
> following the old belief that "the enemy of my enemy is my friend", even
> though Mort apparently has never acknowledged his existence.
It's become all-too evident. . . and tiresome . .
> Logic, or reasoning, is hardly their strong point and of course they
> cannot respond to any well thought out critique as to do so would
> result in their firmly held beliefs being destroyed and leaving them
> with the knowledge that they are simply fools who pursued a false god
> in search of their fifteen minutes of fame and fell flat on their
> face.
. . or are simply baiting for the trollish delight of it all . .
> The present government appears to be gaining adherents in leaps and
> bounds. They seem to travel when and where they want without serious
> interference from the "Red Shirts" as they are refereed to in the news,
> and it is apparent that more and more Thais are appreciative of what is
> happening.
Not to 'kill the golden goose' lest 2000bt eggs be broken? ;~)
<
http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/local/10421/abhisit-extends-2000-baht-give-away>
> Thus, the opposition, which certainly includes Mort, is reduced to seizing
> on tiny little bits of inanity to criticize.
I'd hardly call mort 'opposition' in any meaningful sense
> But in reality, they have no answers.
> cheers,
> Schweik
Cheers,
-maxwell
Good Soldier Schweik
wrote:
Certainly not "droit du Seigneur". That would require a gentleman.
cheers,
Schweik
(goodsoldierschweikatgmaildotcom)
PG
Thaksin's popularist policies what they think, you might learn something.
Prior to Thaksin zero effort was made in this direction, for obvious
reasons - it is in the interest of the elite, whether Thai or wherever in
the world, to maintain a poor, uneducated, submissive labour pool. (A
straightforward economic observation, no value judgment involved, it is just
human nature at work).
>>>(oh, and f.y.i., cher 'Saint' Stefan, it was while 'mort' and Schweik
>>>argued over the true nature of Thaksinite politics that the 'great
>>>leader's foul-mouthed french sycophant' went from an appearance of
>>>reasonable argumentation with Schweik to throwing the same merde as
>>>'mort' also throws at many a poster and at many a Thai--merde that *you*
>>>go nuts about when such is thrown at la france . .vive le difference, eh?
>>>;~)
>
> . . am I surprised that when PG was shown the proof, he just danced away ?
> 8~)
Come again? I *never* ignore any points, when intellibly made.
>>>Now if you still give a care about THAI topicality (as you seemingly did
>>>in December '08), why are the vast majority of your postings as
>>>intentionally ignorant of THAI-related content as Mort's are venomously
>>>condemnatory of not only Democrats and the PAD, as well as of many other
>>>things Thai, but of any posters who oppose the 'Mortian' output of utter
>>>merde?
>
>>>oh, that's right--you're here to defend la france, and what concern might
>>>you have about defending Thailand against vicious slurs thrown at THAI by
>>>a French foul-mouthed one, here at, what is it 'scf ' ? 8~)
>
>> Maxwell, they won't answer.
>
> Heavens, Schweik, why then they'd be discussing THAILAND . . and not
> merely running interference for the trash-mouthing by some sig-changing
> troll who's a compatriot cousin.
>
Now you are showing real troll qualities Maxwell. Change direction and prove
me wrong - or carry on in this vein, Your choice.
Slambert actually had some justification ref anti French sentiment in his
original points, but has since lost the plot. No bother to me to say that
recently we have seen a certain amount of gibberish from him, but that
doesn't render his 'opponents' comments any more credible.
>> Mort appears to be a firm believer in Thaksin, constantly chanting the
>> mantra "he was elected".
>
> Well, it's true that TS/TRT/PPP b(r)ought in the vote ;~)
>
So the alternatives are less corrupt, involve less cronyism? You have to be
kidding.
> >And now that his god is seen to have feet of clay he is put in the
> position of having espoused a false god which is unacceptable to his
> delicate ego. Apparently to admit that he was wrong will be such a blow to
> his self-esteem that he cannot face reality and is reduced to making his
> underhanded little gibes at everything Thai.
>
The current system is full of fault lines. Are you aware of them?
> I recall these jibes preceded square face's fugitive flight.
>
Were you not criticising the use of ad hominems recently?
>> His cohort, on the other hand is simply a fool, and in his foolishness is
>> following the old belief that "the enemy of my enemy is my friend", even
>> though Mort apparently has never acknowledged his existence.
>
> It's become all-too evident. . . and tiresome . .
>
Look at the larger picture, if you are able.
>> Logic, or reasoning, is hardly their strong point and of course they
>> cannot respond to any well thought out critique as to do so would
>> result in their firmly held beliefs being destroyed and leaving them
>> with the knowledge that they are simply fools who pursued a false god
>> in search of their fifteen minutes of fame and fell flat on their
>> face.
>
> . . or are simply baiting for the trollish delight of it all . .
>
Coming from GSS, comments about logic are rather amusing to say the least.
>> The present government appears to be gaining adherents in leaps and
>> bounds. They seem to travel when and where they want without serious
>> interference from the "Red Shirts" as they are refereed to in the news,
>> and it is apparent that more and more Thais are appreciative of what is
>> happening.
>
> Not to 'kill the golden goose' lest 2000bt eggs be broken? ;~)
> <
> http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/local/10421/abhisit-extends-2000-baht-give-away>
>
>> Thus, the opposition, which certainly includes Mort, is reduced to
>> seizing on tiny little bits of inanity to criticize.
>
> I'd hardly call mort 'opposition' in any meaningful sense
>
>> But in reality, they have no answers.
>> cheers,
>> Schweik
How shallow can you get. Very sad indeed that you stoop to the level of GSS,
Maxwell.
pg
maxwell
parody?
only your decree-by-proxy.
> Ask those who benefited from Thaksin's popularist policies what they
> think, you might learn something.
Try discarding such presumptuous ploys.
I have done more than ask, TYVM, as I've also eyewitnessed cuts in hospital
staffing resultant from 'robbing Peter to pay Paul' reallocations of health
funding, and had for months in 2007 extended correspondence with one
employed by an NGO doing interviews of Thai in many locations, both North
and South.
> Prior to Thaksin zero effort was made in this direction,
What, by your decree?
Let's see the substantiation !
>for obvious reasons - it is in the interest of the elite, whether Thai or
>wherever in the world, to maintain a poor, uneducated, submissive labour
>pool. (A straightforward economic observation, no value judgment involved,
>it is just human nature at work).
. . and without anything more than an appeal to 'common knowledge,' your
argument is . . . empty.
>>>>(oh, and f.y.i., cher 'Saint' Stefan, it was while 'mort' and Schweik
>>>>argued over the true nature of Thaksinite politics that the 'great
>>>>leader's foul-mouthed french sycophant' went from an appearance of
>>>>reasonable argumentation with Schweik to throwing the same merde as
>>>>'mort' also throws at many a poster and at many a Thai--merde that *you*
>>>>go nuts about when such is thrown at la france . .vive le difference,
>>>>eh? ;~)
>>
>> . . am I surprised that when PG was shown the proof, he just danced away
>> ? 8~)
>
> Come again? I *never* ignore any points, when intellibly made.
You did so by a reiterative demand re: mortian substantive libeling, after
the proof was presented to you.
>>>>Now if you still give a care about THAI topicality (as you seemingly did
>>>>in December '08), why are the vast majority of your postings as
>>>>intentionally ignorant of THAI-related content as Mort's are venomously
>>>>condemnatory of not only Democrats and the PAD, as well as of many other
>>>>things Thai, but of any posters who oppose the 'Mortian' output of utter
>>>>merde?
>>
>>>>oh, that's right--you're here to defend la france, and what concern
>>>>might you have about defending Thailand against vicious slurs thrown at
>>>>THAI by a French foul-mouthed one, here at, what is it 'scf ' ? 8~)
>>
>>> Maxwell, they won't answer.
>>
>> Heavens, Schweik, why then they'd be discussing THAILAND . . and not
>> merely running interference for the trash-mouthing by some sig-changing
>> troll who's a compatriot cousin.
>>
> Now you are showing real troll qualities Maxwell. Change direction and
> prove me wrong - or carry on in this vein, Your choice.
Speak to m. lambert about such; the sheer volume of ad hominem engagements
in otherwise-Thai-topical threads should suffice
> Slambert actually had some justification ref anti French sentiment in his
> original points, but has since lost the plot. No bother to me to say that
> recently we have seen a certain amount of gibberish from him, but that
> doesn't render his 'opponents' comments any more credible.
>
>>> Mort appears to be a firm believer in Thaksin, constantly chanting the
>>> mantra "he was elected".
>>
>> Well, it's true that TS/TRT/PPP b(r)ought in the vote ;~)
>>
> So the alternatives are less corrupt, involve less cronyism? You have to
> be kidding.
Yes and no re: cronyism, and no re: corrupt.
>> >And now that his god is seen to have feet of clay he is put in the
>> position of having espoused a false god which is unacceptable to his
>> delicate ego. Apparently to admit that he was wrong will be such a blow
>> to his self-esteem that he cannot face reality and is reduced to making
>> his underhanded little gibes at everything Thai.
>>
> The current system is full of fault lines. Are you aware of them?
Let's either see specific examples, or at a minimum, something more than
asking me to make your argument for you ;~)
>> I recall these jibes preceded square face's fugitive flight.
>>
> Were you not criticising the use of ad hominems recently?
>
>>> His cohort, on the other hand is simply a fool, and in his foolishness
>>> is following the old belief that "the enemy of my enemy is my friend",
>>> even though Mort apparently has never acknowledged his existence.
>>
>> It's become all-too evident. . . and tiresome . .
>>
> Look at the larger picture, if you are able.
. . .further presumption. tsk.
>>> Logic, or reasoning, is hardly their strong point and of course they
>>> cannot respond to any well thought out critique as to do so would
>>> result in their firmly held beliefs being destroyed and leaving them
>>> with the knowledge that they are simply fools who pursued a false god
>>> in search of their fifteen minutes of fame and fell flat on their
>>> face.
>>
>> . . or are simply baiting for the trollish delight of it all . .
>>
> Coming from GSS, comments about logic are rather amusing to say the least.
ad hominem presumption
>>> The present government appears to be gaining adherents in leaps and
>>> bounds. They seem to travel when and where they want without serious
>>> interference from the "Red Shirts" as they are refereed to in the news,
>>> and it is apparent that more and more Thais are appreciative of what is
>>> happening.
>>
>> Not to 'kill the golden goose' lest 2000bt eggs be broken? ;~)
>> <
>> http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/local/10421/abhisit-extends-2000-baht-give-away>
>>
>>> Thus, the opposition, which certainly includes Mort, is reduced to
>>> seizing on tiny little bits of inanity to criticize.
>>
>> I'd hardly call mort 'opposition' in any meaningful sense
>>
>>> But in reality, they have no answers.
>>> cheers,
>>> Schweik
>
> How shallow can you get. Very sad indeed that you stoop to the level of
> GSS, Maxwell.
go polish your pot.
Schweik's lumping of mort with *actual* opposition is only true if a
newsgroup discussion somehow is a Thai political event.
given my comment, you stoop to condescendion.
> pg
>
Magnus
wrote:
<snip for brevety>
the so-called "maxwell" is a nasty troll with a huge ego that has been
haunting this ng for ages under different aliases. He was especially
getting at Tchiowa for reasons I don't know. He often used derogatory
arguments against him and his relatives.
Under the present 'maxwell brand', he formed with half a dozen other
posters the self-proclaimed "experts in Thailand" a few years ago.
They were todaying themselves about their superior knowledge of LoS,
often using a snobbish English somehow ridiculous here. I did not
react alot against their propaganda at that time but their reaction
after the coup was quite disgusting. They celebrated the putchists,
went into ecstasies about the yellow ribbons on the tanks and the
guns, praised the martial censorship, were rapturous about the
junta-appointed commissions, made pathetic forecasts about the bright
future of the country and, of course, called Thaksin's voters greedy
idiots.
I never saw such reactions in the other web sites I frequent.
Today, he's the only remnant of this group I call the Gang of SCT. You
can notice that his language is not utterly-refined anymore! I tend to
compare this Gang to the French Stalinists that were delighted by the
rout of the French and British armies in June 1940.
I greatly despise this sort of Farangs, some of them living in
Thailand for decades. Nevertheless, it is also a good reminder of the
decline of some Westerners, long-time residents in Asia.
Regards,
Mort
P.S. GSS is certainly a troll but not such a lowlife IMO.
slambert
>> Now you are showing real troll qualities Maxwell. Change direction and
>> prove me wrong - or carry on in this vein, Your choice.
> Speak to m. lambert about such; the sheer volume of ad hominem engagements
> in otherwise-Thai-topical threads should suffice
I'm waiting for the place to become usable for me. I can't say anything.
I tried 2 posts last week. One was about the band Jb2Do from Krabi, a band I
appreciate a lot. I also tried a post about economy and currencies. I had no
echo, everything was drown by the situation organised by the soldier and the
NZ man. It is impossible for me to speak at the moment, and it is quite
annoying because I would like to pass more time here with good willing
people.
I'm going to pass a lot of time in Thailand very soon, and this newsgroup +
the ThaiVisa forum seemed to be nice places to start to meet people.
Unfortunately, I've been sniped the first day by anti French replies and I
am unable to use this newsgroup like a normal person since that.
This is the reason of my protest and the actual cleaning. I have a lot to
share and a lot to learn, and I can't admit to be blocked the first second
by racist reactions like the ones I received (especially when they don't
even come from Thai people).
I have to say as well I'm quite ashamed to realize troubles in the Thai
newsgroup don't come from Thai people: they come from non national users,
who don't even live there. The soldier posts from Germany, and the other one
posts from New Zealand. Somebody will have to explain me how comes a thai
newsgroup is fulfilled by anti french sentences coming from German and New
Zealand residents. My first approach to the Thai culture is a big clash with
arrogant non resident Farangs and I hope it is not a sign about what is
waiting for me these coming months once I will be there.
Stef
LarbGai
*******And then has the cheek to call GSS and myself Don Quixote and
Sancho.
Oh the irony.
ROTFLMAO.
PG
> "PG" wrote ......
>
>> You are responsible for this entire waste of space of a sub-thread
>> because you failed to make clear that you were quoting Mort.
>
> Surely it could not be the infallible pg's non-comprehension at the root
> of his discontent.
> Righto ;~)
Correct.
That's all the space I intend wasting on you, and I certainly get the
message ref your views of PAD and their supporters.
Now we know where we both stand.
pg
LarbGai
> I'd hardly call mort 'opposition' in any meaningful sense
> Cheers,
> -maxwell-
*******I'd hardly call Mort anything in any sense and as for his
heroic countryman bravely fighting for his honour the best that can be
said is Farang keenohk.
LarbGai
wrote:
> I'm waiting for the place to become usable for me. I can't say anything.
>
> I tried 2 posts last week. One was about the band Jb2Do from Krabi, a band I
> appreciate a lot. I also tried a post about economy and currencies. I had no
> echo, everything was drown by the situation organised by the soldier and the
> NZ man. It is impossible for me to speak at the moment, and it is quite
> annoying because I would like to pass more time here with good willing
> people.
>
> I'm going to pass a lot of time in Thailand very soon, and this newsgroup +
> the ThaiVisa forum seemed to be nice places to start to meet people.
> Unfortunately, I've been sniped the first day by anti French replies and I
> am unable to use this newsgroup like a normal person since that.
>
> This is the reason of my protest and the actual cleaning. I have a lot to
> share and a lot to learn, and I can't admit to be blocked the first second
> by racist reactions like the ones I received (especially when they don't
> even come from Thai people).
>
> I have to say as well I'm quite ashamed to realize troubles in the Thai
> newsgroup don't come from Thai people: they come from non national users,
> who don't even live there. The soldier posts from Germany, and the other one
> posts from New Zealand. Somebody will have to explain me how comes a thai
> newsgroup is fulfilled by anti french sentences coming from German and New
> Zealand residents. My first approach to the Thai culture is a big clash with
> arrogant non resident Farangs and I hope it is not a sign about what is
> waiting for me these coming months once I will be there.
>
> Stef
*******This coming from a Frog (I am allowed to say that as your hero
Mort calls himself one) who posts from Ireland and has difficulty
knowing which version of his name to use.
Also his campaign to recruit members for his gay club by sending
private emails to posters here is most annoying however complaints to
his service provider seem to be hitting home.
At first I thought Kramer was back, but Kramer had a modicum of sanity
about him unlike this turnip.
If stupidity hurt, he'd go through life on a morphine drip.
slambert
> *******This coming from a Frog (I am allowed to say that as your hero
>Mort calls himself one)
You are not, I am not Mort, and this is another racist insult.
=> ab...@lycos.com
=> groups...@google.com
=> n...@netgate.net.nz
=> db...@netgate.net.nz
=> n...@ggi.net.nz
=> ab...@netgate.net.nz
You are the shame and the plague of this group and you are going to
disappear soon.
Stef
Takin & Kanoknuan
"slambert" <slambertNO...@vediovis.net> wrote in message
> "maxwell" <mmma...@hotmail.com> wrote
>>> Now you are showing real troll qualities Maxwell. Change direction and
>>> prove me wrong - or carry on in this vein, Your choice.
>> Speak to m. lambert about such; the sheer volume of ad hominem
>> engagements in otherwise-Thai-topical threads should suffice
>
> I'm waiting for the place to become usable for me.
**I think you're going to be in for a
looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong wait. :-)
slambert
>> I'm waiting for the place to become usable for me.
> **I think you're going to be in for a
> looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong wait. :-)
hmmmmm, it s right usually when a group abandonned charts, rules and good
practices for ages, there usually are people like you happy with the mess.
It's not important. I think Usenent doesn't care about people interested in
mess and intelectual terrorism. Usenent wan't made for them.
Anyway believe me: a clean place woth good practices has much more value
than the crappy stuff you display in the name of the "thai culture". Ihave
no idea how people from there could tolerate such a shame and mess in their
name.
Stef
maxwell
"PG" snipped all but his one of his ad hominisms and my reply to such....
>
> "maxwell" <mmma...@hotmail.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
> gpiqpq$lu4$1...@news.albasani.net...
>> "PG" wrote ......
>>
>>> You are responsible for this entire waste of space of a sub-thread
>>> because you failed to make clear that you were quoting Mort.
>>
>> Surely it could not be the infallible pg's non-comprehension at the root
>> of his discontent.
>> Righto ;~)
> Correct.
Dream on.
> That's all the space I intend wasting on you,
The feeling is mutual, at least WRT your ad hominem hooey.
> and I certainly get the message ref your views of PAD and their
> supporters.
all you show here is once more an utterance
> Now we know where we both stand.
yes, I go for substantive discussion, while you've demanded such and in
turn, provided not.
maxwell
news:49bd4243...@news.free.fr...
> On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 07:16:58 +0100, "PG" <pg...@alpesprovence.net>
> wrote:
> <snip for brevety>
> the so-called "maxwell" is a nasty troll with a huge ego that has been
> haunting this ng for ages under different aliases.
That is a substantive libelous accusation.
Not even one alternate alias that this 'mort' claims was ever used, or some
other posting address, has ever been provided by the foul one.
> He was especially getting at Tchiowa for reasons I don't know. He often
used derogatory arguments against him and his relatives.
Yet another mailixious lie, specifically WRT anything ever directed against
the 'know-it-all' Yank's *relatives,* while 'getting at' is the height of
chutzpah, as 'twas this 'tchiowa' who first posted the 'alternate ID
trolling' accusation that this 'mort' has henceforth parroted.
Good Soldier Schweik
wrote:
Private email? I am distraught! I never received an email..... And to
think that as his oldest correspondent he has neglected me. Oh, Woe!
cheers,
Schweik
(goodsoldierschweikatgmaildotcom)
LarbGai
wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 12:54:19 -0700 (PDT), LarbGai <larb...@lycos.com>
*******Not the type of mail you "Germans" would like.
Something about his recruiting drive for a Gay Club in Dublin.
This fellow is confused, he doesn't know which way to spell his name,
reckons he's an IT expert (but completely clueless regards the
internet and now tells us he is a DJ on an Irish Radio Station and he
thinks we have problems.
I notice Morticia is not claiming friendship.
Good Soldier Schweik
wrote:
>On Mar 16, 2:00 pm, Good Soldier Schweik <decypher.signat...@sig.line>
I would have to say that if he thinks that I'm a German then Steff has
just proven that he is an idiot. Certainly the only poster that I feel
half sure is a German, "Hel", never has, I believe, thought I was a
fellow countryman. Strange that a Frenchman would.
Besides, The Good Soldier was Czeck....
cheers,
Schweik
(goodsoldierschweikatgmaildotcom)
slambert
> I would have to say that if he thinks that I'm a German then Steff has
> just proven that he is an idiot. Certainly the only poster that I feel
> half sure is a German, "Hel", never has, I believe, thought I was a
> fellow countryman. Strange that a Frenchman would.
The idiot here is the one who can't read.
I never said you were German. I said you post from Germany. It's quite
different. Do you catch the subtlety, or is a too complicated concept for
your old brain?
Stef
maxwell
> Besides, The Good Soldier was Czeck....
You're right. I'd mistakenly recalled him as Austrian, but it was his
emperor and nation ( Austro-Hungary, actually)
Forty+ years passed since reading 'GSS' . .. and the borders in my memory
melted much like those of the Empire . . ah, well.
Takin & Kanoknuan
"slambert" <slambertNO...@vediovis.net> wrote in message
> "Takin & Kanoknuan" <takin&kano...@stuck-in-a-wheelchair.org> wrote
>>> I'm waiting for the place to become usable for me.
>> **I think you're going to be in for a
>> looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong wait. :-)
>
> hmmmmm, it s right usually when a group abandonned charts, rules and good
> practices for ages, there usually are people like you happy with the mess.
>
> It's not important. I think Usenent doesn't care about people interested
> in mess and intelectual terrorism. Usenent wan't made for them.
>
> Anyway believe me: a clean place woth good practices has much more value
> than the crappy stuff you display in the name of the "thai culture".
**So when do you intend to start your clean up of this group??? Why don't
you start by trying to throw me out? :o)
slambert
I never wanted to put you out.
Furthermore, and maybe I will surprise you, but I think will maybe be
interesting to read or to discuss with, once the actual turmoil will slow
down.
I do intend to find IT experts in your country, and maybe to hire some of
them. My searches starts with the newsgroup. I'm coming, and believe me, I
will find the right people at the right places in less than 6 months.
>> Ihave no idea how people from there could tolerate such a shame and mess
>> in their name.
I confirm, even if you are not instructed enough to undesrtand why quoting
proprerly is a good usage for everybody, you the first.
Stef
LarbGai
wrote:
> "Takin & Kanoknuan" <takin&kanokn...@stuck-in-a-wheelchair.org> wrote
>
> > Why don't you start by trying to throw me out? :o)
>
> I never wanted to put you out.
>
> Furthermore, and maybe I will surprise you, but I think will maybe be
> interesting to read or to discuss with, once the actual turmoil will slow
> down.
******He'll surprise you alright with letters inviting you to join his
Gay Group.
>
> I do intend to find IT experts in your country, and maybe to hire some of
> them. My searches starts with the newsgroup. I'm coming, and believe me, I
> will find the right people at the right places in less than 6 months.
******He's been overdosing on Kramer. Reality has sailed past this
buffoon and he is still sound asleep.
>
> >> Ihave no idea how people from there could tolerate such a shame and mess
> >> in their name.
>
> I confirm, even if you are not instructed enough to undesrtand why quoting
> proprerly is a good usage for everybody, you the first.
>
> Stef
*******Good luck to anyone who makes sense of that little lot.
slambert
> ******He'll surprise you alright with letters
> inviting you to join his Gay Group.
You can't resist to put your salt everywhere, can't you?
Drama of loneliness in NZ third ages...
Stef
LarbGai
wrote:
> "LarbGai" <larb...@lycos.com> wrote
******Reported to Google, RadioDublin and your IP as racist.
Takin & Kanoknuan
"LarbGai" <lar...@lycos.com> wrote in message
> On Mar 17, 10:48 am, "slambert" <slambertNOSPAMPLE...@vediovis.net>
> wrote:
>> "Takin & Kanoknuan" <takin&kanokn...@stuck-in-a-wheelchair.org> wrote
>>
>> > Why don't you start by trying to throw me out? :o)
>>
>> I never wanted to put you out.
>>
>> Furthermore, and maybe I will surprise you, but I think will maybe be
>> interesting to read or to discuss with, once the actual turmoil will slow
>> down.
>
>
> ******He'll surprise you alright with letters inviting you to join his
> Gay Group.
**Well it makes a change from being threatened with deportation or physical
violence. :o)
And as for the turmoil, I think the turmoil will stop as soon as Stef
leaves.....