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mut...@go.com

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Jul 3, 2009, 8:08:28 PM7/3/09
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Agony and Impotence of a Tamil Nadu Chief Minister within the Indian
Union

How TN CMM is powerless to do anything unless New Delhi bosses approve
it.

http://www.tamiltribune.com/09/0701.html

anal...@hotmail.com

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Jul 3, 2009, 8:50:20 PM7/3/09
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What was done in May 2009 was the most grotesque massacre of a people
and Western human rights activists care more about that than the
sleeping Tamil Nadu Tamil population who are immersed in their petty
day to day concerns.

Endless divisons into castes and subcastes and Tamil lacking a deep
place in the culture because Sanskrit has usurped the sacred domain,
English is overwhelmingly dominant in commerce and Northindian
"Hindianization" pressures continue relentlessly.

The most fundamental problem is Tambrahms - that tiny sliver of the
population that is considered the "acceptable" face of Tamils in
Northindia - the overwhelming mass of Tamils are without a shadow of a
doubt more foreign to Northindians than Pakis.

Northindia might have rid itself of foreign occupation in 1947 -
Tamils merely had the Brits replaced by Hindian Northindians. To
educate Tamils and uproot the poisonous presence of Tambrahms will be
a multi-generational effort - but once Tambrahms are either expelled
or made to accept their Tamilness or decide to intermarry with their
beloved lords and masters the Hindians and disappear - Tamil Nadu's
independence will necesarily follow given how mutually foreign
Hindians and Tamils are.

As long as Tambrahms are allowed dual status of being Tamils or Non-
Tamils by opportunistic choice and still own large industrial houses
like TVS and dominate journalism and to this day live in Tamil Nadu as
immigrants, there is no hope for Tamils.

ranjit_...@yahoo.com

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Jul 3, 2009, 11:22:02 PM7/3/09
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On Jul 3, 8:50 pm, analys...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Jul 3, 8:08 pm, "mut...@go.com" <mut...@go.com> wrote:
>
> > Agony and Impotence of a Tamil Nadu Chief Minister within the Indian
> > Union
>
> > How TN CMM is powerless to do anything unless New Delhi bosses approve
> > it.
>
> >http://www.tamiltribune.com/09/0701.html
>
> What was done in May 2009 was the most grotesque massacre of a people
> and Western human rights activists care more about that than the
> sleeping Tamil Nadu Tamil population who are immersed in their petty
> day to day concerns.
>
> Endless divisons into castes and subcastes and Tamil lacking a deep
> place in the culture because Sanskrit has usurped the sacred domain,
> English is overwhelmingly dominant in commerce and Northindian
> "Hindianization" pressures continue relentlessly.
>
> The most fundamental problem is Tambrahms - that tiny sliver of the
> population that is considered the "acceptable" face of Tamils in
> Northindia - the overwhelming mass of Tamils are without a shadow of a
> doubt more foreign to Northindians than Pakis.

Chidambaram is Nagarattar, not Brahmin.
Murasoli Maran was Isai Vellalar, not Brahmin

> Northindia might have rid itself of foreign occupation in 1947 -
> Tamils merely had the Brits replaced by Hindian Northindians.  To
> educate Tamils and uproot the poisonous presence of Tambrahms will be
> a multi-generational effort - but once Tambrahms are either expelled
> or made to accept their Tamilness or decide to intermarry with their
> beloved lords and masters the Hindians and disappear - Tamil Nadu's
> independence will necesarily follow given how mutually foreign
> Hindians and Tamils are.
>
> As long as Tambrahms are allowed dual status of being Tamils or Non-
> Tamils by opportunistic choice and still own large industrial houses
> like TVS and dominate journalism and to this day live in Tamil Nadu as
> immigrants, there is no hope for Tamils.

Tambrahms don't live in Tamilnadu as immigrants; they live in
Tamilnadu as Tamilians. VP Raman, a Tambrahm, was one of the authors
of the DMK party's constitution.

Mudali

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Jul 4, 2009, 2:43:19 AM7/4/09
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On Jul 3, 8:50 pm, analys...@hotmail.com wrote:

Hey Asshole!
Prabhakaran trusted his FISHING SMUGGLER CASTE only. Those smugglers
of his caste are the big bosses of all financial affairs of LTTE.

Tamil is a language and not the property of petty thieves like
Gopalasamy or grade 7 drop-out cycle thief Prabhakaran!

Vanniyan( means KAATU MANITHAN) Ramadass has Vanniyan caste Party but
he bark for SL Tamils. SL Tamils have nothing in common with Indian
Tamils because most of the SL Tamils have roots in Kerala and not in
Tamil Nadu!

Tamils are uneducated and think a CINEMA is better than learning!

anal...@hotmail.com

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Jul 4, 2009, 9:07:39 AM7/4/09
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On Jul 3, 11:22 pm, "ranjit_math...@yahoo.com"
> of the DMK party's constitution.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Annadurai was half-Brahmin (and Jayalalitha as a cynical election ploy
promised to prevail on Delhi to send the Indian armed forces to create
Tamil Eelam) - these occasional exceptions don't prove a thing (they
say that Eichmann was a Jew - what does that prove?).

Yup - Tambrahms are regular Tamils living in Tamil Nadu minding their
own business - such as going to court to prevent/restrict the chanting
of DeVAram at the Chidambaram temple.

uNmaiviLambi

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Jul 4, 2009, 9:49:12 AM7/4/09
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On Jul 4, 9:07 am, analys...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Jul 3, 11:22 pm, "ranjit_math...@yahoo.com"

> Annadurai was half-Brahmin (and Jayalalitha as a cynical election ploy
> promised to prevail on Delhi to send the Indian armed forces to create
> Tamil Eelam) - these occasional exceptions don't prove a thing (they
> say that Eichmann was a Jew - what does that prove?).

Annadurai a half-brahmin! Looks like EVR talking!


> Yup - Tambrahms are regular Tamils living in Tamil Nadu minding their
> own business - such as going to court to prevent/restrict the chanting
> of DeVAram at the Chidambaram temple.

Your talk is typically what Nazis did. They picked on Jews and blamed
them for all problems and then killed them . EVR and DMK, ADMK do the
same. For power, pick on a community and try to foment hatred. Tamil
Brahmins are like any one else. You have no justification in blaming
them for anything. Temples are independent bodies and each temple has
its own tradition. Temples dont follow government policy etc. Nothing
stops the TN govt or any one from building their own temple and
chanting what they want. Nonsense to tell temples what they should do.
The temple organizers are not from one caste or something. MK wants to
destroy all Hindu institutions systematically. That is the policy of
DK,DMK,, ADMK and all dravida parties. They dare not tell Christians
or Muslims what they should do

Please stop this hatred

Kick RSS ass

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Jul 4, 2009, 1:10:59 PM7/4/09
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Mad Sudhan/uNmaiviLambi wrote:

But it's okay for you to preach hatred against Christians, you shitbag?


--
THE NAZI-STYLE HATE-MINORITIES MESSAGE OF THE `RSS BIBLE'

"The foreign races in Hindusthan must either adopt the Hindu culture
and language, must learn to respect and hold in reverence Hindu
religion, must entertain no idea but those of the glorification of the
Hindu race and culture, i.e., of the Hindu nation and must loose their
separate existence to merge in the Hindu race, or may stay in the
country, wholly subordinated to the Hindu Nation, claiming nothing,
deserving no privileges, far less any preferential treatment -- not
even citizen's rights. There is, at least, should be, no other course
for them to adopt. We are an old nation; let us deal, as old nations
ought to and do deal, with the foreign races, who have chosen to live
in our country".

-- Madhav Sadashiv Golwalkar's, We or Our Nationhood Defined

ModerateMallu

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Jul 4, 2009, 2:55:50 PM7/4/09
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anal...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Jul 3, 8:08�pm, "mut...@go.com" <mut...@go.com> wrote:
>> Agony and Impotence of a Tamil Nadu Chief Minister within the Indian
>> Union
>>
>> How TN CMM is powerless to do anything unless New Delhi bosses approve
>> it.
>>
>> http://www.tamiltribune.com/09/0701.html
>
>
> What was done in May 2009 was the most grotesque massacre of a people
> and Western human rights activists care more about that than the
> sleeping Tamil Nadu Tamil population who are immersed in their petty
> day to day concerns.
>

You need a new rousing slogan, boy. How about "Remember Hellam!" to
rouse all the sleepy Tamils and go to war to claim their rightful place
at the top of food chain?

> Endless divisons into castes and subcastes and Tamil lacking a deep
> place in the culture because Sanskrit has usurped the sacred domain,
> English is overwhelmingly dominant in commerce and Northindian
> "Hindianization" pressures continue relentlessly.
>

Oh, you don't like castes and subcastes, but you're willing to single
out TamBrahms as a caste? I suggest you spearhead a movement for writing
Sanskrit in the sacred Tamil script.

> The most fundamental problem is Tambrahms - that tiny sliver of the
> population that is considered the "acceptable" face of Tamils in
> Northindia - the overwhelming mass of Tamils are without a shadow of a
> doubt more foreign to Northindians than Pakis.
>

Yes, "vengayam sambar" eating TamBrahms are the root cause of all the
discontent in Hellam.

> Northindia might have rid itself of foreign occupation in 1947 -
> Tamils merely had the Brits replaced by Hindian Northindians. To
> educate Tamils and uproot the poisonous presence of Tambrahms will be
> a multi-generational effort - but once Tambrahms are either expelled
> or made to accept their Tamilness or decide to intermarry with their
> beloved lords and masters the Hindians and disappear - Tamil Nadu's
> independence will necesarily follow given how mutually foreign
> Hindians and Tamils are.
>

Yes, idli-sambar Tambrahms must be "Eelam-inated"

Actually the poisonous presence is you and a handful of other
scum-sucking Tamil chauvinists who think you're actually owed something.

> As long as Tambrahms are allowed dual status of being Tamils or Non-
> Tamils by opportunistic choice and still own large industrial houses
> like TVS and dominate journalism and to this day live in Tamil Nadu as
> immigrants, there is no hope for Tamils.

Yes, TamBrahms must not own anything and should not be in journalism. I
guess once they have been "Eelam-inated" you'll have no further
problems. Everyone will read only "The Hellamish Times" (news print to
fit). Could give "Nakkeeran" a run for its money.

uNmaiviLambi

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Jul 4, 2009, 3:35:08 PM7/4/09
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On Jul 4, 1:10 pm, Kick RSS ass <you-s...@iselin.town> wrote:
> Mad Sudhan/uNmaiviLambi wrote:

> > Please stop this hatred
>
> But it's okay for you to preach hatred against Christians, you shitbag?

Look, scholar. I did not want to reply to the likes of you. But I will
say this. You should know the difference between Christianity and
Christians, Hindus/Brahmans and Hinduism and its themes. I never ever
said anything suggestive of hatred against any people. All I do is
point out their venomous ideas especially in Christianity and Islam.
But then how could your scholarly brain follow this as the source for
you knowledge is half penny tub thumpers like Indian Express

Any way I wasted time writing to you, so I will stop

ranjit_...@yahoo.com

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Jul 4, 2009, 5:17:41 PM7/4/09
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On Jul 4, 9:07 am, analys...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Jul 3, 11:22 pm, "ranjit_math...@yahoo.com" <ranjit_math...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On Jul 3, 8:50 pm, analys...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > On Jul 3, 8:08 pm, "mut...@go.com" <mut...@go.com> wrote:

> > > The most fundamental problem is Tambrahms - that tiny sliver of the
> > > population that is considered the "acceptable" face of Tamils in
> > > Northindia - the overwhelming mass of Tamils are without a shadow of a
> > > doubt more foreign to Northindians than Pakis.
>

> > > Northindia might have rid itself of foreign occupation in 1947 -
> > > Tamils merely had the Brits replaced by Hindian Northindians.  To
> > > educate Tamils and uproot the poisonous presence of Tambrahms will be
> > > a multi-generational effort - but once Tambrahms are either expelled
> > > or made to accept their Tamilness or decide to intermarry with their
> > > beloved lords and masters the Hindians and disappear - Tamil Nadu's
> > > independence will necesarily follow given how mutually foreign
> > > Hindians and Tamils are.
>
> > > As long as Tambrahms are allowed dual status of being Tamils or Non-
> > > Tamils by opportunistic choice and still own large industrial houses
> > > like TVS and dominate journalism and to this day live in Tamil Nadu as
> > > immigrants, there is no hope for Tamils.
>
> > Tambrahms don't live in Tamilnadu as immigrants; they live in
> > Tamilnadu as Tamilians. VP Raman, a Tambrahm, was one of the authors
> > of the DMK party's constitution.- Hide quoted text -
>

> Annadurai was half-Brahmin (and Jayalalitha as a cynical election ploy
> promised to prevail on Delhi to send the Indian armed forces to create
> Tamil Eelam) - these occasional exceptions don't prove a thing (they
> say that Eichmann was a Jew - what does that prove?).
>
> Yup - Tambrahms are regular Tamils living in Tamil Nadu minding their
> own business - such as going to court to prevent/restrict the chanting
> of DeVAram at the Chidambaram temple.

I hadn't heard of this. What did Tambrahms in general say about this
case?
http://www.hindustantimes.com/StoryPage/StoryPage.aspx?id=bd4844d3-5707-4652-8cb9-dbed1bcf44ad&&Headline=Overzealous+priests+beat+up+policemen
http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/004200803041762.htm
http://www.hinduismtoday.com/modules/xpress/hindu-press-international/2006/07/16/group-stopped-from-singing-tamil-songs-at-chidambaram-temple/
http://www.hinduismtoday.com/modules/xpress/hindu-press-international/2006/07/20/chidambaram-temple-and-odhuvars-update/

Kick RSS ass

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Jul 5, 2009, 1:42:37 AM7/5/09
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Mad Sudhan/uNmaiviLambi wrote:

Good f**king riddance to you, you half-wit sub-human.

Mudali

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Jul 5, 2009, 2:45:49 AM7/5/09
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> of DeVAram at the Chidambaram temple.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Fool!
Annadurai was a SENGUNTHA MUDALI. A decendant of Pallava Royals. He
was a KSHATRIYA and not a Brahman, half or quarter!

Mudali

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Jul 5, 2009, 2:49:55 AM7/5/09
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On Jul 4, 2:55 pm, ModerateMallu <KalluMallu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> fit). Could give "Nakkeeran" a run for its money.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Good!

If no Brahmans in TN, no cinema, no nes papers or any other good
things in TN!

Eelam is not a Tamil Word. Eelam is another name for all Sri lanka.
That word was derived from the SINHALA word HELA which means SINHALA.

Tamil idiots are barely educated to know many historical facts!

uNmaiviLambi

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Jul 5, 2009, 9:45:17 AM7/5/09
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EVR spread this rumor. When EVR married his "adopted daughter" ( he
said she was his adopted daughter) Maniyammai suddenly, Annadurai and
co were disgusted and formed DMK. EVR then said Anna was born to a
Kanchi Brahmin and his "keep"!!

This is the level TN "politics" has been for 60 years

Mudali

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Jul 5, 2009, 1:03:11 PM7/5/09
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EVR was a Kannadiga and not a Tamil. He was behind the money all the
time. He became a slave of the British. The DMK too an anti-Indian
political movement with all kind of corruptions. Remember all Catholic/
Christian/Muslims are allied with DMK. Criminals always work together!

ModerateMallu

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Jul 5, 2009, 2:35:44 PM7/5/09
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It is really really amusing to see Indian Tamils get really worked up
about "Eelam," "Tamilness" and Sri Lanka. Isn't it true that Tamils
taken over from India to SL as indentured labor during the "Raj" are not
"ethnically" (i.e., genetically) similar to Lankan Tamils (i.e., Tamils
who've lived there for millennia :-)), and that Lankan Tamils are
perhaps much closer to Indian Mallus than TN Tamils? In fact, wasn't
there some recent news about Prabhakaran's blood relatives being Mallu
and not Tamil? The interesting bit is at what point did Mallus in Lanka
become "Tamilayalees" (for lack of better word), and when did they buy
into Tamil chauvinism (as exemplified by analyst41 and his kind)?


harmony

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Jul 20, 2009, 6:06:08 PM7/20/09
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"Mudali" <mud...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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hey, that's an amazing observation mudali ji. ok, so, now what happens to
hindu tamils in sri lanka? now that they are liberated from kirastani
leadership, would they feel welcome by sinhala people? do the sinhala
recognize, understand appreciate the untenable situation the hindu tamils
had been under kirastani ltte?


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