Hari Kumar's posts
uNmaiviLambi
intimacy!!
He claims Islam is peaceful and said I do not know about religions and
yet when asked a few questions, evaded and never answered questions
about Islam. He implied he knew about "religions"!
His preoccupation is to stir up hate and contempt for Hindus
I am ignoring his posts from now as it is a waste of time!
harmony
"uNmaiviLambi" <tripur...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:5ecb38e4-5948-431f...@o9g2000vbj.googlegroups.com...
brown kirastanistas are like dhobi ka kutta. they are never happy, never
accepted, ignored, left to wearing funny white robe. your goodness had to
wear out.
M. Ranjit Mathews
> He claims Islam is peaceful
In which post does he claim this?
uNmaiviLambi
wrote:
> On Nov 19, 5:58 pm, uNmaiviLambi <tripurant...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> He claims Islam is peaceful
>
> In which post does he claim this?
See this thread:
http://groups.google.ca/group/soc.culture.indian/browse_thread/thread/a1353b8dcd0d774e#
For example,
"If you dont understand this very important fact, there is no point
wasting time talking about it, till you know what Islam is"
Oh, but we have recently established you are in fact in personal
experience, apart from the tea house gossip, ignorant of muslims and
of
the huge range in islamic thought and teaching.
P. Rajah
Frankly, since you seem utterly, utterly unable to write a single
goddamn sentence without talking shit about either Christians or
Muslims, or both, it is quite clear that _you_ are the unhappy
individual. Clearly too, you feel alienated and degraded by your
peculiar baggage which does not fit in American society. And, quite
possibly, you are also miffed that you cannot take your customary
morning shit in the nearest field, as one of your friends claimed as a
birthright. People who feel the need to toot their own horn are always,
always, worthless and lack self-respect and dignity.
arah
WHY A HINDU SHOULD BECOME A MUSLIM
One Indian Hindu research professor, in his stunning book, claims that
the description of Avatar found in the holy books of Hindu religion is
in fact that of the Prophet Muhammad (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam).
If the author of this book were a Muslim, he could have been arrested
or he could have even been murdered and all the copies of his book
would have been confiscated. Even a ban would have been slapped on its
publication. A riot and violence would have broken out against
innocent Muslims and their blood would have been shed.
Amazingly, the author of this book is a fair-minded, famous professor
who happens to be a Hindu. His name is Pandit Benda Prakash Upadhai
and the name of his fact revealing book is Kalki Avatar. The author is
a Hindu Brahmin by caste of Bengali origin. He is a research scholar,
a seeker of the Truth and a well-known Pandit in Allahabad University.
After years of research work, Pandit Vedaprakash published this book
and eight other pandits have endorsed and certified his points of
argument as authentic.
According to Hindu belief and their holy books, the description of the
Guide and the Leader, named Kalki Avatar, fits only the Prophet
Muhammad (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) of Arabia. So the Hindus of the
whole world should not wait any longer for the arrival of Kalki Avatar
(the spirit) and should readily accept Prophet Muhammad (Sallallaahu
Alayhi Wasallam) as Kalki Avatar.
NEVER ENDING PAIN
What the author and other eight eminent pandits say is that the Hindus
who are still anxiously awaiting the arrival of Kaki Avatar are simply
subjecting themselves to a never-ending pain, because such a great
messenger has come and gone from this world fourteen centuries ago.
Pandit Vedaprakash produces the following sound evidence from the
Vedas and other holy books of the Hindu religion in support of his
claim:
1. In Purana (a holy book of the Hindus), it is stated that Kalki
Avatar would be the last messenger (prophet) of God in this world for
the guidance of the whole world and all human beings.
2. According to Hindu religions prediction of the birth of Kalki
Avatar would take place in an isle which, again according to Hindu
religion, is Arab region.
3. In the books of Hindus, the names of the father and the mother of
Kalki Avatar are givenas Vishnubhagat and Sumaani respectively. If we
examine the meanings of these names, we shall come to a very
interesting conclusion, e.g. take Vishnubhagat: Vishnu (meaning god) +
Bhagat (meaning slave) = Allah (in Arabic) = Slave of God = Abdullah
(in Arabic). Sumaani = Peace or Calmness = Aaminah (in Arabic)
4. In the religious books of Hindus, it is mentioned the staple diet
of Kalki Avatar would be dates and olive and he would be the most
honest and truthful person in the Region. Without any doubt, the
Prophet (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) is acclaimed to possess these
qualities.
5. It is stated in Vedas (Hindu holy book) that the birth of Kalki
Avatar would take place in an honourable clan. This perfectly fits
only with the clan of Quraysh to which Prophet Muhammad (Sallallaahu
Alayhi Wasallam) belonged.
DAZZLING ACCOUNT
6. God would teach Kalki Avatar through His messenger (angel) in a
cave. Allah taught Prophet Muhammad (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam)
through His messenger Jibraaeel in a cave known as Ghaar Hiraa.
7. God would avail Kalki Avatar with a very speedy horse to ride and
travel the whole world and the seven skies. This is an indication of
the Buraaq and Mi’raaj.
8. God would also avail Kalki Avatar with divine help. This was
probably proven in the Battle of Badr.
9. Another dazzling account given about Kalki Avatar was that he would
be born on the 12th of a month. The Prophet (Sallallaahu Alayhi
Wasallam) was born on the 12th of Rabi-ul-Awwal.
10. Kalki Avatar would be an excellent horse rider and swordsman. The
Prophet (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) was both.
The author has given numerous other arguments in favour of his claim
that Kalki Avatar is in fact Prophet Muhammad (Sallallaahu Alayhi
Wasallam) and those who still await the arrival of Kalki Avatar should
think again.
tbj....@yahoo.com
> harmony wrote:
> > "uNmaiviLambi" <tripurant...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
WHO fits in the "american society"? Does Glenn Beck fit in it? Does
Barack Obama? Do republicans fit in it better or do democrats? Is the
"american society" the hamptons in NY or the slums of Mississippi?
There is no such thing as the "american society". Never was. Every
single american is a disgruntled and grumpy person with little love
for this world.
uNmaiviLambi
These two, "Hari" and "Rajah", are faithfully serving their slave
masters
Raja is not with "H". He does not even know his name!
hari....@indero.com
intimacy!!"
Smile, happy to see these "all the time" posts, if you please or if you
do not please for that matter . Or do you have in mind when all indians
regardless of ethnicity are called to rise to the civic and moral ideals
of the entire nation? India is not hinduism and hinduism is not india.
"He claims Islam is peaceful and said I do not know about religions and
yet when asked a few questions, evaded and never answered questions
about Islam. He implied he knew about "religions"!"
No, and perfect illustration of your obsession with labels and not with
morality and civic responsibility. What i asked you to show is in
yourpersonal experince with muslims what the huge range of opinion among
them including their use and understanding of the koran. This when you
presented your usual black and white ignorant statements about the
"real" nature of muslims and why you see one under every bed and why
they should as a group be treated in an unconstitional manner. Because,
as we established, you have very little experience on a personal level
with muslims and can only speak of them from a base of ignorance and tea
house gossip and sterotypical nonsense. Such is the folly and delusion
and joy of a bigot.
"His preoccupation is to stir up hate and contempt for Hindus"
Nonsense, more bigoted joy. I go to great lengths to make my calls for
civic and moral and human rights on the basis that they apply to all
equally in india. I go to great lengths to damn those who individually
or as minority sub groups in indian society turn to violence and terror
and teach hate and bigotry.
You are so blinded by same that you can only think in terms of labels
and not on the basis of principle. Sad and reason for pity to see such
individual distortions. .
"I am ignoring his posts from now as it is a waste of time!"
Perhaps for the better. I was beginning to worry that readers would
think you a sock puppet of me. You provide such a perfect target that
seems almost too perfect and must be my own invention.
hari....@indero.com
"See this thread:
http://groups.google.ca/group/soc.culture.indian/browse_thread/thread/a1353=
b8dcd0d774e#
For example,"
Smile, too perfect to be true. When one clicks on the above the error
message "topic not found" is returned.
It seems the cosmos has answered, or that binary part of it at least.
uNmaiviLambi
> > In which post does he claim this?
>
> "See this thread:
>
> b8dcd0d774e#
>
> For example,"
>
> Smile, too perfect to be true. When one clicks on the above the error
> message "topic not found" is returned.
>
> It seems the cosmos has answered, or that binary part of it at least.
Did you dress the link to be evasive and tell lies? You got:
http://groups.google.ca/group/soc.culture.indian/browse_thread/thread/a1353=
The link I said above is:
http://groups.google.ca/group/soc.culture.indian/browse_thread/thread/a1353b8dcd0d774e#
hari....@indero.com
>
>
http://groups.google.ca/group/soc.culture.indian/browse_thread/thread...
> b8dcd0d774e#
>
> For example,"
>
> message "topic not found" is returned.
>
> It seems the cosmos has answered, or that binary part of it at least.
"Did you dress the link to be evasive and tell lies? You got:"
Nope, it was cut and pasted as appeared.
http://groups.google.ca/group/soc.culture.indian/browse_thread/thread/a1353=
=3D
"The link I said above is:
http://groups.google.ca/group/soc.culture.indian/browse_thread/thread/a1353=
b8dcd0d774e# "
No joy, the cosmos speaks still. Provide the subjectline and I can find
it with a search.
uNmaiviLambi
> > "See this thread:
>
> http://groups.google.ca/group/soc.culture.indian/browse_thread/thread...
>
> > b8dcd0d774e#
>
> > For example,"
>
> > Smile, too perfect to be true. =A0When one clicks on the above the
> error
> > message "topic not found" is returned.
>
> > It seems the cosmos has answered, or that binary part of it at least.
>
> "Did you dress the link to be evasive and tell lies? You got:"
>
> Nope, it was cut and pasted as appeared.
>
> =3D
>
> "The link I said above is:
>
> b8dcd0d774e# "
>
> No joy, the cosmos speaks still. Provide the subjectline and I can find
> it with a search.
Find it yourself. Cannot and do not want to help you. You are insincere
M. Ranjit Mathews
> The author has given numerous other arguments in favour of his claim
> that Kalki Avatar is in fact Prophet Muhammad (Sallallaahu Alayhi
> Wasallam)
Prophet Muhammad is in fact an incarnation of Vishnu (Vaishnavas'
God)?
> and those who still await the arrival of Kalki Avatar should
> think again.
On the one hand, if Muhammad is Kalki, he is God and Muslims who don't
think he is God should think again. On the other hand, if Muhammad is
not God, then he's not Kalki Avatar.
scientific
scientific
:-)
Incarnation of Vishnu ! And so Arab Vaishnavites shall hence forth
pray to Rama and Krishna also ;-)
BTW, does this new finding imply Babur's mosque at Ayodhya was built
to honor Rama ?
scientific
:-)
Incarnation of Vishnu ! And so Arab Vaishnavites shall hence forth
pray to Rama and Krishna also ;-)
Hare Rama ! Hare Krishna !! Zeenat Amman style ;-)
BTW, does this new finding imply Babur's mosque at Ayodhya was in fact
ModerateMallu
> ""This man slanders Hindus full time. He supports "eating shit" to show
> intimacy!!"
>
> Smile, happy to see these "all the time" posts, if you please or if you
> do not please for that matter . Or do you have in mind when all indians
> regardless of ethnicity are called to rise to the civic and moral ideals
> of the entire nation? India is not hinduism and hinduism is not india.
>
Oh yeah, I know not to equate India and Hindus, patronizing fuckwit. The
real question is do you? Slimy SOB (silly/slimy old boy, of course), you
have absolutely no fucking stake in India, and neither the morals and
principles you want to hold _Hindus_ to. Play more word games, dear SOB
(ya tu gora hai, ya tujhe gora log "boy" karke pukarta hai, saala yeda).
> "He claims Islam is peaceful and said I do not know about religions and
> yet when asked a few questions, evaded and never answered questions
> about Islam. He implied he knew about "religions"!"
>
> No, and perfect illustration of your obsession with labels and not with
> morality and civic responsibility. What i asked you to show is in
> yourpersonal experince with muslims what the huge range of opinion among
> them including their use and understanding of the koran. This when you
> presented your usual black and white ignorant statements about the
> "real" nature of muslims and why you see one under every bed and why
> they should as a group be treated in an unconstitional manner. Because,
> as we established, you have very little experience on a personal level
> with muslims and can only speak of them from a base of ignorance and tea
> house gossip and sterotypical nonsense. Such is the folly and delusion
> and joy of a bigot.
Save the sanctimony for someone really gullible. Dear SOB , you're the
one trotting out implied "labels" of 1984/2002/2008 all the time. For a
guy who acts so goddamn morally superior, when put on the mat about
Kashmiri Pandits and Tripuri Reangs, there is not a peep out of you
except a very feeble (and rather contrived), "I condemn evil."
Haraamzade, jaasti Gandhigiri naheen karne ka.
For a guy that started a thread on the "decline of proficiency in
English in India," you seem to be very fond of the first person plural.
Who the fuck is "we?" You and the hobby horse you ride here? Or, is it
the royal we?
>
> "His preoccupation is to stir up hate and contempt for Hindus"
>
> Nonsense, more bigoted joy. I go to great lengths to make my calls for
> civic and moral and human rights on the basis that they apply to all
> equally in india. I go to great lengths to damn those who individually
> or as minority sub groups in indian society turn to violence and terror
> and teach hate and bigotry.
>
The only lengths you have gone to is take the slimy route and imply all
Hindus are evil. Dear SOB, not all Hindus are bigots. However, in your
case, I will make an exception. You are 100% snake oil, and an absolute
fucking bigot. Slimy SOB, you have _never_ offered up a cogent (or even
coherent) argument, nor have you offered up any goddamn solutions to
your imaginary problems. You keep pissing all day about Hindus being
evil. And boy, are you first off the starting block if there is a put
down of Hindus (and India, too). Kutriya, tu kis khet ki mooli hai?
> You are so blinded by same that you can only think in terms of labels
> and not on the basis of principle. Sad and reason for pity to see such
> individual distortions. .
>
Fuck you, guy. You're indulging in pretty the same thing, albeit with a
little more sliminess (I hate to call it "finesse" when you got
absolutely none).
> "I am ignoring his posts from now as it is a waste of time!"
>
> Perhaps for the better. I was beginning to worry that readers would
> think you a sock puppet of me. You provide such a perfect target that
> seems almost too perfect and must be my own invention.
Sock puppet, schmock puppet. You are 100% schmuck puppet. Piss off,
bloody berk.
scientific
:-) :-)
Incarnation of Vishnu ! And so Arab Vaishnavites shall hence forth
pray to Rama and Krishna also ;-)
Hare Rama ! Hare Krishna !! Zeenat Amman Dum Maro Dum Mit Jaye Gham
Style ;-)
BTW, does this new finding imply Babur's mosque at Ayodhya was in fact
built to honor Rama ?
Ayodhya problem is solved !?!
ModerateMallu
Dang, a Vedic Jihad! :-)
hari....@indero.com
Hindus are evil. Dear SOB, not all Hindus are bigots. However, in your
case, I will make an exception. You are 100% snake oil, and an absolute
fucking bigot. Slimy SOB, you have _never_ offered up a cogent (or even
coherent) argument, nor have you offered up any goddamn solutions to
your imaginary problems. You keep pissing all day about Hindus being
evil. And boy, are you first off the starting block if there is a put
down of Hindus (and India, too). Kutriya, tu kis khet ki mooli hai?"
The route I have taken is to speak of principles not labels. A great
many want me to indulge with them in the calculus of labels and I
absolutely refuse.
As to solution, I have always pointed to the constitution, btw developed
by a hindu majority, as the solution when it is applied fully and when
the thin nod to it is made a powerful response. If all are equal before
the law then let it be so, regardless of label. When thousands are
murdered and raped and property destroyed of thousands of innocents and
we find year upon year passing as officials drag their feet and then if
any are held to law it is only a few scapegoats. Reverse that, that is
the solution.
Any implication you find in that is in your mind, a kind of mirror one
thinks.
hari....@indero.com
fin=d
> it with a search.
"Find it yourself. Cannot and do not want to help you. You are
insincere"
What a laugh, in the millions of posts you would ask me to find it, and
first guess which one it is . It was you who suggest that there is a
thread supporting your claims and yet you will not do one easy task in
confirming it.
I think that it is more the matter that you now fear your assertions
about my statements about islam can not be confirmed.
Just present the thread subject so that it can be evaluated or my
assumption is confirmed. Silence is sometimes a scream of failure.
M. Ranjit Mathews
> On Nov 21, 5:44 am, "M. Ranjit Mathews" <ranjit_math...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On Nov 20, 10:25 am, arah <arah1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > WHY A HINDU SHOULD BECOME A MUSLIM
> > > that Kalki Avatar is in fact Prophet Muhammad (Sallallaahu Alayhi
> > > Wasallam)
>
> > Prophet Muhammad is in fact an incarnation of Vishnu (Vaishnavas'
> > God)?
>
> > > and those who still await the arrival of Kalki Avatar should
> > > think again.
>
> > On the one hand, if Muhammad is Kalki, he is God and Muslims who don't
> > think he is God should think again. On the other hand, if Muhammad is
> > not God, then he's not Kalki Avatar.
>
> :-) :-)
>
> Incarnation of Vishnu !
> And so Arab Vaishnavites shall hence forth
> pray to Rama and Krishna also ;-)
Precisely! My point was that if Muhammad is Kalki, then Muslims ought
to become Hindus (Vaishnavas), not the other way around:-)
ModerateMallu
>
> The route I have taken is to speak of principles not labels. A great
> many want me to indulge with them in the calculus of labels and I
> absolutely refuse.
>
Yeah, right! Convenient cop out with the phony "calculus of labels"
crap. Dear SOB 1984, 2002, 2008 are as much labels as 1992. Face it,
your bluff has been called. Piss off.
> As to solution, I have always pointed to the constitution, btw developed
> by a hindu majority, as the solution when it is applied fully and when
> the thin nod to it is made a powerful response. If all are equal before
> the law then let it be so, regardless of label. When thousands are
> murdered and raped and property destroyed of thousands of innocents and
> we find year upon year passing as officials drag their feet and then if
> any are held to law it is only a few scapegoats. Reverse that, that is
> the solution.
>
Aah, the sliminess comes through again. "Hindu" majority? You do love
labels when convenient, don't you, dear SOB? The "architect" was a
Buddhist, and there were "Hindu" principles that guided it - most of the
members were of a "secular persuasion" when it came to politics.
Yeah, sure I can dig the constitution being the document that trumps
every single holy book. However, should push come to shove on bringing
in a uniform civil code (which I very strongly support), you'll the
first one in line pissing about freedom of religion (after all per your
statements here, Hindus have to "reform," to tailor their religion to
the genocidal standards of the west, and arabs too, perhaps). Save your
crock for someone more gullible.
The law does take a lot of time in India - settlement of Bhagalpur riots
(an event "label" you seemed to have missed during your time travel)
from 20 years ago just occurred yesterday!!
> Any implication you find in that is in your mind, a kind of mirror one
> thinks.
Oh bugger off, unctuous bastard. There is not one honest bone in your
body, and quit pretending to be some sort of latter day Gandhi, which
you ain't.
Pick your next "label" crusade carefully.
scientific
:-)
It is always a pleasure to read your tongue-in-cheek responses :-)
hari....@indero.com
> many want me to indulge with them in the calculus of labels and I
> absolutely refuse.
>
"Yeah, right! Convenient cop out with the phony "calculus of labels"
crap. Dear SOB 1984, 2002, 2008 are as much labels as 1992. Face it,
your bluff has been called. Piss off."
Your call seen and trumped. You wish me still to indulge in the
narcotic of labels, on which s. asia is constantly drunk and in a
stupor. Murder and rape and destruction of property of thousands of
innocents by any name is evil. It is such a narcotic that no mention of
almost any civic issue is impossible and leaves anyone who seeks to
speak of principle and human rights with no partner in discussion. What
is your label, what is your label they demand as they are mute and dumb
without it, and the principles and human rights remain still as a sword
of judgement over their head if they like it or not. Trying to sneak in
years as stealth labels does not serve.
> As to solution, I have always pointed to the constitution, btw
developed
> by a hindu majority, as the solution when it is applied fully and when
> the thin nod to it is made a powerful response. If all are equal
before
> the law then let it be so, regardless of label. When thousands are
> murdered and raped and property destroyed of thousands of innocents
and
> we find year upon year passing as officials drag their feet and then
if
> any are held to law it is only a few scapegoats. Reverse that, that
is
> the solution.
>
"Aah, the sliminess comes through again. "Hindu" majority? You do love
labels when convenient, don't you, dear SOB? The "architect" was a
Buddhist, and there were "Hindu" principles that guided it - most of the
members were of a "secular persuasion" when it came to politics."
Perfect example, mute and dumb without labels. My mention of a hindu
majority was a direct refutation of your playing the "anti hindu" card,
your play seen and called. Still the principles and human rights
remain, when will you deal with the topic?
"Yeah, sure I can dig the constitution being the document that trumps
every single holy book. However, should push come to shove on bringing
in a uniform civil code (which I very strongly support), you'll the
first one in line pissing about freedom of religion (after all per your
statements here, Hindus have to "reform," to tailor their religion to
the genocidal standards of the west, and arabs too, perhaps). Save your
crock for someone more gullible."
Not only do labels make one mute and dumb but also blind, as it forces
the indulger in them to see a label and menace under every bed.
Religion is not the topic nor any particular version of it nor my views;
if any; regarding it. The topic is the evil of murdr and rape and
destruction of property of thousands of innocents in the name of any
excuse. Do you excuse it? Do you damn it? Can you possibly speak of
the principles involved and the human rights involved? Or will you
continue to confirm my views of the narcotic of labels and the almost
complete paralysis for those who can not open their mouths without
labels?
Never have I suggested that any group in india conform to any western
anything regarding such matters. India in its own laws and constitution
has sufficient unto itself. For you to raise this is but another label
under every bed strawman bit of noise. Or is it a reflection in the
mirror?
ModerateMallu
>> The route I have taken is to speak of principles not labels. A great
>> many want me to indulge with them in the calculus of labels and I
>> absolutely refuse.
>>
>
> "Yeah, right! Convenient cop out with the phony "calculus of labels"
> crap. Dear SOB 1984, 2002, 2008 are as much labels as 1992. Face it,
> your bluff has been called. Piss off."
>
> Your call seen and trumped. You wish me still to indulge in the
> narcotic of labels, on which s. asia is constantly drunk and in a
> stupor. Murder and rape and destruction of property of thousands of
> innocents by any name is evil. It is such a narcotic that no mention of
> almost any civic issue is impossible and leaves anyone who seeks to
> speak of principle and human rights with no partner in discussion. What
> is your label, what is your label they demand as they are mute and dumb
> without it, and the principles and human rights remain still as a sword
> of judgement over their head if they like it or not. Trying to sneak in
> years as stealth labels does not serve.
Save me the BS, fraudmeister. You could have simply condemned violence
and mayhem and left it at that. But, you chose to be very selective
about what you picked, all the time hiding behind a very pious "I am
against labels." When pushed to condemn all evil without invoking any
particular year, silly bastard, you chose to cling to them and dug
yourself in a little deeper. Then there is the additional non-2002/2008
related noxious crap you've posted here. Tells "us" what you real intent
is, silly "boy." Sanctimonious creep, you are lower than the other
baboons that shriek here - you are pure evil. So, fuck your trump and
stick it where the sun don't shine.
>
>> As to solution, I have always pointed to the constitution, btw
> developed
>> by a hindu majority, as the solution when it is applied fully and when
>> the thin nod to it is made a powerful response. If all are equal
> before
>> the law then let it be so, regardless of label. When thousands are
>> murdered and raped and property destroyed of thousands of innocents
> and
>> we find year upon year passing as officials drag their feet and then
> if
>> any are held to law it is only a few scapegoats. Reverse that, that
> is
>> the solution.
>>
>
> "Aah, the sliminess comes through again. "Hindu" majority? You do love
> labels when convenient, don't you, dear SOB? The "architect" was a
> Buddhist, and there were "Hindu" principles that guided it - most of the
> members were of a "secular persuasion" when it came to politics."
>
> Perfect example, mute and dumb without labels. My mention of a hindu
> majority was a direct refutation of your playing the "anti hindu" card,
> your play seen and called. Still the principles and human rights
> remain, when will you deal with the topic?
>
Right, slimebag, right! Fuck your label crap. I will deal with human
rights and moral principles with humans, and not "swamp critters."
> "Yeah, sure I can dig the constitution being the document that trumps
> every single holy book. However, should push come to shove on bringing
> in a uniform civil code (which I very strongly support), you'll the
> first one in line pissing about freedom of religion (after all per your
> statements here, Hindus have to "reform," to tailor their religion to
> the genocidal standards of the west, and arabs too, perhaps). Save your
> crock for someone more gullible."
>
> Not only do labels make one mute and dumb but also blind, as it forces
> the indulger in them to see a label and menace under every bed.
> Religion is not the topic nor any particular version of it nor my views;
> if any; regarding it. The topic is the evil of murdr and rape and
> destruction of property of thousands of innocents in the name of any
> excuse. Do you excuse it? Do you damn it? Can you possibly speak of
> the principles involved and the human rights involved? Or will you
> continue to confirm my views of the narcotic of labels and the almost
> complete paralysis for those who can not open their mouths without
> labels?
>
Fuck your analysis on paralysis. You are completely paralyzed neck up.
Yes, the topic is on the evil of "labels" silly bastard. It is the label
of "Pandit" that moved them from their ancestral land, and the label of
"Reang" that attracts the attention of "god-fearing" Baptists. Yet,
critter, you seem to be able to produce only 2002 and 2008, and of late
1984, explicitly, and then dodge conveniently.
The evil of murder and loss of life has been unleashed on Hindus too,
you know the "evil" bastards who are not a monolithic entity (19+
opinions from 19- people in a room), who should forever be grateful to
AIT and the West for the "gift" of civilization. Tujh jaisa kulla chaat
pahle kabhi dekha naheen, kutriya.
BTW, save "us" the "messianic" crap. Your standard is something no human
should aspire to sink to. Phony patronizing SOB (slimy old bastard).
> Never have I suggested that any group in india conform to any western
> anything regarding such matters. India in its own laws and constitution
> has sufficient unto itself. For you to raise this is but another label
> under every bed strawman bit of noise. Or is it a reflection in the
> mirror?
>
Oh you haven't, have you? Take a look back through the crap you post,
moron. Anyways, you are just not worth dealing with.
hari....@indero.com
> the indulger in them to see a label and menace under every bed.
> Religion is not the topic nor any particular version of it nor my
views;
> if any; regarding it. The topic is the evil of murdr and rape and
> destruction of property of thousands of innocents in the name of any
> excuse. Do you excuse it? Do you damn it? Can you possibly speak of
> the principles involved and the human rights involved? Or will you
> continue to confirm my views of the narcotic of labels and the almost
> complete paralysis for those who can not open their mouths without
> labels?
>
"Fuck your analysis on paralysis. You are completely paralyzed neck up.
Yes, the topic is on the evil of "labels" silly bastard."
No the topic is the evil of the murder and rape and destruction of
property of thousands of innocents in the name of any excuse. It seems
you by your silence to damn it excuse it?
Labels, like other dodges, is only part of the excuse that adds to the
"see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil" paralysis that allows evil to
continue. It is easier to manipulate the calculus of labels then
confront the evil in question.
It has been said that for evil to prevail it is only required that good
men do nothing.
M. Ranjit Mathews
> > will you
> > continue to confirm my views of the narcotic of labels and the almost
> > complete paralysis for those who can not open their mouths without
> > labels?
>
> "Fuck your analysis on paralysis. You are completely paralyzed neck up.
> Yes, the topic is on the evil of "labels" silly bastard."
>
> No the topic is the evil of the murder and rape and destruction of
> property of thousands of innocents in the name of any excuse. It seems
> you by your silence to damn it excuse it?
You're the only one here who has been silent about 1992. Can you
produce a post where you did not fail to introduce 1992 along with
1984 and 2002? If not, does it follow that you excuse 1992?
> It has been said that for evil to prevail it is only required that good
> men do nothing.
If good men were to spank Lilliput hard every time it attacks Belfuscu
but do nothing on any occasion that Belfuscu attacks Lilliput, then
would it be evil or good that would prevail?
hari....@indero.com
> you by your silence to damn it excuse it?
"You're the only one here who has been silent about 1992. Can you
produce a post where you did not fail to introduce 1992 along with 1984
and 2002? If not, does it follow that you excuse 1992?"
I will not be drug into the swamp of labels, even under the guise of
dates and who was associated with them. It seems that the urge is so
vast to have labels by which to discuss evil that instead of saying wich
labels are included it is now the tactic to substitute dates in their
place.
I refuse to be drawn into that swamp. It is the principles of morality
and human rights involved. It is a sad commentary that such moral
obstructionism is used, but one guesses that from the perspective of a
swamp one can only see muck and mire and decay resulting from
generations of the demand that one get one's labels correctly aligned
before questions of morality and evil can be discussed.
I have never failed to damn * ALL * examples of the evil done innocents,
on the part of anyone, including the last time you brought up 1992, and
some others as I recall.
Do you as I damn all such examples for the evil done against innocents
for any excuse on any date?
M. Ranjit Mathews
> > No the topic is the evil of the murder and rape and destruction of
> > property of thousands of innocents in the name of any excuse. =A0It
> > seems you by your silence to damn it excuse it?
>
> "You're the only one here who has been silent about 1992. Can you
> produce a post where you did not fail to introduce 1992 along with 1984
> and 2002? If not, does it follow that you excuse 1992?"
>
> I will not be drug into the swamp of labels, even under the guise of
> dates and who was associated with them. It seems that the urge is so
> vast to have labels by which to discuss evil that instead of saying wich
> labels are included it is now the tactic to substitute dates in their
> place.
It would seem from your choice of dates that you were the one who
introduced this tactic.
> I refuse to be drawn into that swamp. It is the principles of morality
> and human rights involved. It is a sad commentary that such moral
> obstructionism is used, but one guesses that from the perspective of a
> swamp one can only see muck and mire and decay resulting from
> generations of the demand that one get one's labels correctly aligned
> before questions of morality and evil can be discussed.
>
> I have never failed to damn * ALL * examples of the evil done innocents,
> on the part of anyone, including the last time you brought up 1992, and
> some others as I recall.
When I brought up 1992, you couldn't avoid damning it without being
exposed as a labeller but why did I have to bring it up in order for
you to take note of it? Why hadn't you yourself taken note of it and
brought it up? Was it mere coincidence that on every one of your
chosen dates, the villains were Hindu and the victims non-Hindu? If
so, how can the reader be persuaded that it was by accident rather
than design that every single date you chose featured Hindu villains
and non-Hindu victims?
> Do you as I damn all such examples for the evil done against innocents
> for any excuse on any date?
If I were to do as you do, that would make me too a numeric labeller.
So, not as you do but rather, differently from the way you do.
hari....@indero.com
innocents,
> on the part of anyone, including the last time you brought up 1992,
and
> some others as I recall.
"When I brought up 1992, you couldn't avoid damning it without being
exposed as a labeller but why did I have to bring it up in order for you
to take note of it? Why hadn't you yourself taken note of it and brought
it up? Was it mere coincidence that on every one of your chosen dates,
the villains were Hindu and the victims non-Hindu? If so, how can the
reader be persuaded that it was by accident rather than design that
every single date you chose featured Hindu villains and non-Hindu
victims?"
Because I then and now refuse without exception tying labels in any form
or guise to the acts which are examples of the evil of murder and rape
and destruction done to large numbers of innocents. This crude attempt
now to attempt same refused again.
For you to even attempt a calculus of labels, to force round peg in
square hole is but it appears a measure of the distortion of thinking it
causes.
You want to assign a label to me however inderectly , I refuse to give
you even the most basic information by which you can even begin. A
calculus demands that a label be assigned to infer motivation for
expressed views. I refuse, you will have to settle for the principles
of morality and evil acts and nothing else. Get over it, all the world
is not so distorted of mind as are those intoxicated with the stupor of
labels.
You attempt to infer something because some dates and not others were
not in the news lately upon which I made comment as reason to consider
the principles of morality involved and the evil done. You may do, and
fail, in your calculus as much and as often as you wish. I will
continue to steer even the distorted of mind back to the principles and
evil as the topic.
> Do you as I damn all such examples for the evil done against innocents
> for any excuse on any date?
""If I were to do as you do, that would make me too a numeric labeller.
So, not as you do but rather, differently from the way you do."
Ah, pretend to have settled the question by assigning a label to me
arbitrarly by date. Then you claim to label differently yourself before
you can even possibly address the central and only question of the evil
of murder and rape and destruction of property of thousands of
innocents? If the urge is so intense and the pain of the distortion
leaves you no choice, please do tell us your label that we can now hear
your position on the real topics?
P. Rajah
> On Nov 20, 9:24 am, "P. Rajah" <u...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>> harmony wrote:
>>> "uNmaiviLambi" <tripurant...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:5ecb38e4-5948-431f...@o9g2000vbj.googlegroups.com...
>>>> This man slanders Hindus full time. He supports "eating shit" to show
>>>> intimacy!!
>>>> He claims Islam is peaceful and said I do not know about religions and
>>>> yet when asked a few questions, evaded and never answered questions
>>>> about Islam. He implied he knew about "religions"!
>>>> His preoccupation is to stir up hate and contempt for Hindus
>>>> I am ignoring his posts from now as it is a waste of time!
>>> brown kirastanistas are like dhobi ka kutta. they are never happy, never
>>> accepted, ignored, left to wearing funny white robe. your goodness had to
>>> wear out.
>> Frankly, since you seem utterly, utterly unable to write a single
>> goddamn sentence without talking shit about either Christians or
>> Muslims, or both, it is quite clear that _you_ are the unhappy
>> individual. Clearly too, you feel alienated and degraded by your
>> peculiar baggage which does not fit in American society. And, quite
>> possibly, you are also miffed that you cannot take your customary
>> morning shit in the nearest field, as one of your friends claimed as a
>> birthright. People who feel the need to toot their own horn are always,
>> always, worthless and lack self-respect and dignity.
>
> WHO fits in the "american society"? Does Glenn Beck fit in it? Does
> Barack Obama? Do republicans fit in it better or do democrats? Is the
> "american society" the hamptons in NY or the slums of Mississippi?
> There is no such thing as the "american society". Never was. Every
> single american is a disgruntled and grumpy person with little love
> for this world.
Perhaps you can explain "Indian culture" too? Does a single-malt
scotch-guzzling tycoon in Mumbai fit in "Indian culture" more than a
beggar in Bangalore? Is a Jharkhand tribal a better fit in "Indian
culture" than an Andamanese Jarawa? Is "Indian culture" the ghagra choli
or is it the mundu-neriyathu of Kerala? Would Preity Zinta be any less
connected to "Indian culture" than Nandita Das? Is an Indian who does
not speak Hindi or Sanskrit or dance the raas dandiya outside the pale
of "Indian culture"? Clearly then, there is no such thing as "Indian
culture". Never was. Every single Indian is a self-absorbed and unhappy
person with scant regard for society. Correct?
uNmaiviLambi
> tbj.b...@yahoo.com wrote:
> for this world.
>
> Perhaps you can explain "Indian culture" too? Does a single-malt
> scotch-guzzling tycoon in Mumbai fit in "Indian culture" more than a
> beggar in Bangalore? Is a Jharkhand tribal a better fit in "Indian
> culture" than an Andamanese Jarawa? Is "Indian culture" the ghagra choli
> or is it the mundu-neriyathu of Kerala? Would Preity Zinta be any less
> connected to "Indian culture" than Nandita Das? Is an Indian who does
> not speak Hindi or Sanskrit or dance the raas dandiya outside the pale
> of "Indian culture"?
Indian culture is predominantly Hindu. Like US, Brits, German are
Christo and Jap is Shinto/Buddhist etc
Even suggesting Indians do not have a culture, and we are uncultured,
is nothing but colonial vomitus.
If you do not know what is Hindu culture please ask.
I am not surprised you want to imply India has not culture!
May be you will rest in peace if we follow the bastard
P. Rajah
Why don't you go and bugger some little boy, you p.o.s.! If you are
unable to understand the context in which I wrote, then just stfu,
because you are absolutely too f**king stupid to grasp anything that
does not pander to your limitless bigotry.
M. Ranjit Mathews
> On Nov 23, 12:36 pm, "P. Rajah" <u...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>
> > tbj.b...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > for this world.
>
> > Perhaps you can explain "Indian culture" too? Does a single-malt
> > scotch-guzzling tycoon in Mumbai fit in "Indian culture" more than a
> > beggar in Bangalore? Is a Jharkhand tribal a better fit in "Indian
> > culture" than an Andamanese Jarawa? Is "Indian culture" the ghagra choli
> > or is it the mundu-neriyathu of Kerala? Would Preity Zinta be any less
> > connected to "Indian culture" than Nandita Das? Is an Indian who does
> > not speak Hindi or Sanskrit or dance the raas dandiya outside the pale
> > of "Indian culture"?
>
> Indian culture is predominantly Hindu. Like US, Brits, German are
> Christo and Jap is Shinto/Buddhist etc
So do Indian Buddhists have Japanese culture? If not, what makes a
religion a culture?
> Even suggesting Indians do not have a culture, and we are uncultured,
> is nothing but colonial vomitus.
Even if it had been suggested that Indians don't have a culture, it
doesn't necessarily imply that Indians have no culture. "No culture"
is not the only alternative to "a culture"; "many cultures" is another
alternative to "a culture".
uNmaiviLambi
> uNmaiviLambi wrote:
> Why don't you go and bugger some little boy, you p.o.s.! If you are
> unable to understand the context in which I wrote, then just stfu,
> because you are absolutely too f**king stupid to grasp anything that
> does not pander to your limitless bigotry.
Your reply clearly shows you have no culture!!
uNmaiviLambi
wrote:
> On Nov 24, 1:58 pm, uNmaiviLambi <tripurant...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> So do Indian Buddhists have Japanese culture? If not, what makes a
> religion a culture?
Religion is different from culture although religion can influence
culture profoundly
Religion should include a theology and modes of worship
Culture is shared set of symbols and values transmitted to posterity
Buddhists in India have Indian culture
Culture expresses itself in music, dance, food, clothes and other
symbols
Indian Buddhists do not eat Japanese style food, nor their clothes or
music dance etc!
> > Even suggesting Indians do not have a culture, and we are uncultured,
> > is nothing but colonial vomitus.
>
> Even if it had been suggested that Indians don't have a culture, it
> doesn't necessarily imply that Indians have no culture. "No culture"
> is not the only alternative to "a culture"; "many cultures" is another
> alternative to "a culture".
One can claim that Christians and muslims have a culture although I do
not think so. Modern "Christian" culture is confused with westernism.
Christianity is a cult and not even a religion let alone a culture.
Same with Islam which is not a culture.
Mafia or Cannibal "culture" cannot be considered a culture. Culture
has to have values and symbols which are worthy of transmission
Thus Islam and Christianity are uncultured basically
There is nothing unique about Christian or Islamic music or dance, nor
food. Arabs have clothes but it has nothing to do with Islam
Hinduism expresses itself in culture and is a proper religion with
clear theology and worship. Same with other Indian religions
M. Ranjit Mathews
> On Nov 24, 3:51 pm, "M. Ranjit Mathews" <ranjit_math...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On Nov 24, 1:58 pm, uNmaiviLambi <tripurant...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > So do Indian Buddhists have Japanese culture? If not, what makes a
> > religion a culture?
>
> Religion is different from culture although religion can influence
> culture profoundly
>
> Buddhists in India have Indian culture
> Culture expresses itself in music, dance, food, clothes and other
> symbols
> Indian Buddhists do not eat Japanese style food, nor their clothes or
> music dance etc!
Likewise, some Hindus don't eat other Hindus' food, wear their clothes
or share their music and dance. So, why do you think Hindus are a
single culture?
The Cynic
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uNmaiviLambi
wrote:
I never said Hindus eat other Hindu's food!! Or wear others clothes!
Hindus have similar habits in food, clothes. Sambar, rasam, curds etc.
Same with classical or folk music
In fact Christos and Mooslems also are influenced by Hindu culture
M. Ranjit Mathews
> On Nov 25, 12:54 am, "M. Ranjit Mathews" <ranjit_math...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On Nov 24, 5:48 pm, uNmaiviLambi <tripurant...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Likewise, some Hindus don't eat other Hindus' food, wear their clothes
> > or share their music and dance. So, why do you think Hindus are a
> > single culture?
>
> I never said Hindus eat other Hindu's food!! Or wear others clothes!
>
> Hindus have similar habits in food, clothes. Sambar, rasam,
All Hindus eat sambar and rasam? We once had a Bengali guest who
looked at the aviyal and asked if that's what was called rasam.
> curds etc.
Hungarians and Finns eat curds too.
> Same with classical or folk music
All Hindus have the same music?
http://chandrakantha.com/articles/indian_music/folk_music.html
There is a tendency to lump folk music along with tribal music. There
is actually a difference.
harmony
"uNmaiviLambi" <tripur...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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<<Your reply clearly shows you have no culture!!>>
he knows that quite well. he is trying to destroy yours; he knows he can
count on daroowalas help.