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The politics of aid to cyclone victims in Myanmar !

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baldeagle

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May 6, 2008, 8:08:09 PM5/6/08
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Myanmar has asked ASEAN for urgent aid...Victims in Myanmar urgently
need food, water and
shelters.
Countries in Asia responded immediately. Singapore gave a quarter of
a million, Indonesia gave US$ one million, China gave US$ one million,
Japan gave $370,000. India immediately despatch two naval ships loaded
with food items, tents, blankets, medicine and meals..Even poor
Bangladesh sent medicine and cloths.

However, the USA and European countries play politics, and refuse to
send aid unless Myanmar agree to their terms. They together with the
UN, demanded visa for a "relief assessment team" to enter Myanmar. It
will only give "aid" with strings attached. Bush's wife use this
opportunity to condemn the junta in Myanmar.
Australia, the good friend of the USA, got annoyed and yesterday urged
the "international community" to focus on providing aid to the cyclone
victims instead of playing politics.

Australia in this instance has acted as an Asian country. Good.
clap, clap, clap.

Zai Zai

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May 6, 2008, 9:31:39 PM5/6/08
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To the Junta these donations are nothing, how much billions have they
embezzled from its people and the country. The Juntas just doesn't want to
released their embezzled money to help their own people that is the worse of
all not USA nor European countries. If this were to happen in Sinkapor, u
think lau li will release his famili billions to help the people, or will
lau li be releasing Sinkapor's reserves or part of the reserves? Most
probably lau li will do the same like the Junta, as for Sinkapor's reserves
he will give excuses and say it is all being locked up in long term
investments in banks abroad for 30 years or more.

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pg

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May 7, 2008, 1:46:08 AM5/7/08
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Hey, Mr. Bird with no hair, you flew all the way, without hair, to
Myanmar ??

baldeagle

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May 11, 2008, 8:43:37 PM5/11/08
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On May 7, 1:46 pm, pg <pen...@catholic.org> wrote:
> Hey, Mr. Bird with no hair, you flew all the way, without hair, to
> Myanmar ??
>

Bird has feather, definitely no hair. brainless.

I was in Rangoon for the last four days and I flew in and out by
air.,...you know in an aircraft, not flapping my hands.

ltl...@hotmail.com

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May 11, 2008, 9:18:44 PM5/11/08
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How is the condition in Yangon?

baldeagle

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May 11, 2008, 10:42:21 PM5/11/08
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The condition in Yangon is almost back to normal. In the
outskirt area, south of Yangon, the farms are not in good
conditions...roof blown away, tree uprooted, many roads
are still not passable.

Cyclone hit the delta low lying area at the mouth of
Irrawaddy River, just south west of Rangoon. The rest
of Myanmar north of Yangon, about 90% of the country
was NOT affected.

Area around Bogale, in the delta was worse hit. Houses
were flatten, large animals like water buffalo were drown...
their carcases floating in the flood.
Coastal villages from Ma Yan to Taw Chaik, almost all
the houses were completely wiped out by the 190 km
wind and the 4 metre tidal wave that followed, ..carried
away or drown more than half the people living in
coastal villages.
The survivers had nothing left, except clothing on them, ..
not even cooking pots to prepare their meals.
Aid centres have to cook the meals in mass kitchens and
deliver the meals to them.
Local red cross were doing a great job, treating the injured
and issuing tents, water, blankets to the survivors...and
providing shelters to the babies and old people.

Aids in packages with marking from India and China were
seen at the local Red Cross centres.
On the day I left, plane loads of aids from the US were
just arriving at the airport.

bmo...@nyx.net

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May 12, 2008, 12:11:07 AM5/12/08
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On May 6, 6:31 pm, "Zai Zai" <Zai...@yahoo.com.sg> wrote:
> To the Junta these donations are nothing, how much billions have they
> embezzled from its people and the country.

The beagle doesn't care about this reality you have identified. He
only cares to criticize the US. If the beagle vomits on a man's shoes,
he says that the man should dye his shoes the right color.

The beagle lacks any connection to this world we live in.

> The Juntas just doesn't want to
> released their embezzled money to help their own people that is the worse of
> all not USA nor European countries. If this were to happen in Sinkapor, u
> think lau li will release his famili billions to help the people, or will
> lau li be releasing Sinkapor's reserves or part of the reserves? Most
> probably lau li will do the same like the Junta, as for Sinkapor's reserves
> he will give excuses and say it is all being locked up in long term
> investments in banks abroad for 30 years or more.
>

> "baldeagle" <botakea...@yahoo.com.sg> wrote in message


>
> news:a7bcfb51-e081-4a74...@u12g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > Myanmar has asked ASEAN for urgent aid...Victims in Myanmar urgently
> > need food, water and
> > shelters.
> > Countries in Asia responded immediately.  Singapore gave a quarter of
> > a million, Indonesia gave US$ one million, China gave US$ one million,
> > Japan gave $370,000. India immediately despatch two naval ships loaded
> > with food items, tents, blankets, medicine and meals..Even poor
> > Bangladesh sent medicine and cloths.
>
> > However, the USA and European countries play politics, and refuse to
> > send aid unless Myanmar agree to their terms. They together with the
> > UN,  demanded visa for a "relief assessment team" to enter Myanmar. It
> > will only give "aid" with strings attached.  Bush's wife use this
> > opportunity to condemn the junta in Myanmar.
> > Australia, the good friend of the USA, got annoyed and yesterday urged
> > the "international community" to focus on providing aid to the cyclone
> > victims instead of playing politics.
>
> > Australia in this instance has acted as an Asian country.  Good.

> > clap, clap, clap.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

bmo...@nyx.net

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May 12, 2008, 12:13:08 AM5/12/08
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LT is looking for an excuse to say that it is all OK. That any claims
of problems are Western propaganda.

That's why we say that LT is an apologist for brutal bastards.

baldeagle

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May 12, 2008, 1:54:59 AM5/12/08
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On May 12, 12:11 pm, bmo...@nyx.net wrote:
> On May 6, 6:31 pm, "Zai Zai" <Zai...@yahoo.com.sg> wrote:

>

>

> If the beagle vomits on a man's shoes,
> he says that the man should dye his shoes the right color.

I puke only at anti China propaganda...which means
I puke at people like you.
There is no need to change the colour of your shoes,...
you should have a brain transplant....yours is too
far gone...beyond salvage.

bmo...@nyx.net

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May 12, 2008, 12:56:14 PM5/12/08
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On May 11, 10:54 pm, baldeagle <botakea...@yahoo.com.sg> wrote:
> On May 12, 12:11 pm, bmo...@nyx.net wrote:
>
> > On May 6, 6:31 pm, "Zai Zai" <Zai...@yahoo.com.sg> wrote:
>
> > If the beagle vomits on a man's shoes,
> > he says that the man should dye his shoes the right color.
>
> I puke only at anti China propaganda...which means
> I puke at people like you.

Actually, little that comes out of your trap is anything but vomit and
bile.

ltl...@hotmail.com

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May 12, 2008, 2:35:49 PM5/12/08
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Thank you for sharing your first hand observations. I am glad to hear
that local red crsoo were doing a great job and aid packages were
reaching the people.

bmo...@nyx.net

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May 12, 2008, 2:38:10 PM5/12/08
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You can't be trusted to report accurately, unfortunately. No way.

baldeagle

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May 12, 2008, 8:53:46 PM5/12/08
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On May 13, 12:56 am, bmo...@nyx.net wrote:
> On May 11, 10:54 pm, baldeagle <botakea...@yahoo.com.sg> wrote:
>
> > On May 12, 12:11 pm, bmo...@nyx.net wrote:
>
> > > On May 6, 6:31 pm, "Zai Zai" <Zai...@yahoo.com.sg> wrote:
>
> > > If the beagle vomits on a man's shoes,
> > > he says that the man should dye his shoes the right color.
>
> > I puke only at anti China propaganda...which means
> > I puke at people like you.
>
> Actually, little that comes out of your trap is anything but vomit and
> bile.

So you can vomit better.
ha ha ha

CharlesLiu

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May 12, 2008, 9:19:11 PM5/12/08
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Thank you for your on-the-ground eyewitness. It is something few of us
can experience or appreciate. I for one will not doubt you, as well as
any China bashers now bashing Burma by proxy, having no first hand
experience, should not.

Do you have any pictures? Throw them up on blogger.com and let us
know. Thanks!

baldeagle

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May 12, 2008, 9:34:44 PM5/12/08
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On May 13, 9:19 am, CharlesLiu <chliu...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> Thank you for your on-the-ground eyewitness. It is something few of us
> can experience or appreciate. I for one will not doubt you, as well as
> any China bashers now bashing Burma by proxy, having no first hand
> experience, should not.
>
> Do you have any pictures? Throw them up on blogger.com and let us
> know. Thanks!
>

I have it on camcorder. A friend took it to show his boss. Will have
it
back in a few days. Then I'll upload it.

Jim Walsh

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May 13, 2008, 1:08:31 AM5/13/08
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On Tue, 13 May 2008 09:19:11 +0800, CharlesLiu wrote
(in article
<0d60db27-425a-455e...@z24g2000prf.googlegroups.com>):

>
> Thank you for your on-the-ground eyewitness. It is something few of us can
> experience or appreciate. I for one will not doubt you, as well as any China
> bashers now bashing Burma by proxy, having no first hand experience, should
> not.

How to tell what information sources Charles will trust? The ones that
support his conclusions, of course.

--
Love, Jim
(I often delete parts of the previous post and I often remove excessive
crossposts.)


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baldeagle

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May 13, 2008, 12:00:46 PM5/13/08
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On May 13, 1:08 pm, Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSPA...@gmNOail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 13 May 2008 09:19:11 +0800, CharlesLiu wrote
> (in article
> <0d60db27-425a-455e-b49e-5ac4a21e0...@z24g2000prf.googlegroups.com>):

>
>
>
> > Thank you for your on-the-ground eyewitness. It is something few of us can
> > experience or appreciate. I for one will not doubt you, as well as any China
> > bashers now bashing Burma by proxy, having no first hand experience, should
> > not.
>
> How to tell what information sources Charles will trust? The ones that
> support his conclusions, of course.
>
The pictures show that Rangoon is almost back to normal..
people going about with their daily life doing the normal
things...going to offices, markets...banks...
It show that most coastal villages (SW of Rangoon) were
badly damaged,..
all victims could be reached by BOATS....no helicopter
was necessary. Just like it was in New Orleans after
Katrina.
US want to send in helicopters and pilots... to do what!!...
they cannot land in the flooded area ...the water is still
waist high. ...and helipcopter cannot land among the wrecked
houses...or fallen trees.
Myanmar do not need helicopter nor the pilots.

Jim Walsh

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May 14, 2008, 4:17:49 AM5/14/08
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On Wed, 14 May 2008 00:00:46 +0800, baldeagle wrote
(in article
<daf87ce2-995c-4237...@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>):

>
> The pictures show that Rangoon is almost back to normal.. people going about
> with their daily life doing the normal things...going to offices,
> markets...banks...

Nah. You are speaking nonsense.

And in the delta, Burmese are still suffering and dying. Not that you care.

Jim Walsh

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May 14, 2008, 4:17:50 AM5/14/08
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On Wed, 14 May 2008 00:00:46 +0800, baldeagle wrote
(in article
<daf87ce2-995c-4237...@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>):

> Myanmar do not need helicopter nor the pilots.

1. There are lots of places were helicopters would be useful. Let the experts
decide.

2. Helicopters do not have to land to deliver supplies or rescue those in
danger. That's why they are preferable to planes in these sorts of rescue
missions.

hslaw mij

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May 14, 2008, 4:32:42 AM5/14/08
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"Jim Walsh" <jimNOwa...@gmNOail.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 14 May 2008 00:00:46 +0800, baldeagle wrote
> (in article
> <daf87ce2-995c-4237...@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>):
>
>> Myanmar do not need helicopter nor the pilots.
>
> 1. There are lots of places were helicopters would be useful. Let the experts
> decide.
>
> 2. Helicopters do not have to land to deliver supplies or rescue those in
> danger. That's why they are preferable to planes in these sorts of rescue
> missions.
>
>
> --

baldeagle is talking cock, without helicopter, how are they going to reach those
people in area which are cut off by road! By the time the supplies reach these
people, most of them are starved to death.

hslaw mij

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May 14, 2008, 4:37:57 AM5/14/08
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"Jim Walsh" <jimNOwa...@gmNOail.com> wrote in message
news:0001HW.C450C12D...@news-east.alibis.com...

> On Wed, 14 May 2008 00:00:46 +0800, baldeagle wrote
> (in article
> <daf87ce2-995c-4237...@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>):
>
>>
>> The pictures show that Rangoon is almost back to normal.. people going about
>> with their daily life doing the normal things...going to offices,
>> markets...banks...
>
> Nah. You are speaking nonsense.
>
> And in the delta, Burmese are still suffering and dying. Not that you care.
>
> --

Hairless eagle is bullshitting again. Yangon city and the nearby area which are
accessible look back to normal but area further away are still cut off by road
and need help as soon as possible.

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