Retarded Black South Africa Soldiers On?
RichAsianKid
the 2003 TIMSS:
http://i26.tinypic.com/23uemnd.jpg
Remember now: 2 standard deviations below the norm on IQ testing is
considered "mentally retarded".
Quote: "At present the South African public school system is
delivering functionally literate
Black (African) matriculants at a rate of 1 in 29 of those who enter
our educational
system."
Bwahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!
GIGO as a poster by the name of drydem on soc.culture.asian.american
just loves to say - garbage in, garbage out.
* * * * *
http://tinyurl.com/6rcfjy
Reforming Basic Education in South Africa.
By Paul Hoffman SC
At present the South African public school system is delivering
functionally literate
Black (African) matriculants at a rate of 1 in 29 of those who enter
our educational
system. [ Functional literacy means having the reading and writing
skills necessary for
everyday living and the workplace, i.e. equivalent to 8 years of
successful formal
schooling in the mother tongue or preferred language of learning.]
This is dire; as
Thomas Jefferson put it: “A nation that hopes to be ignorant and free…
hopes for
something that never was and never will be.”
One of the more hopeful signs to emerge from the ashes of the bonfires
of Polokwane is
that the new leadership of the ANC appears to have identified the
state of basic education
in the country as a problem in need of urgent attention.
In any discussion of the current state of education, it needs to be
acknowledged that the
task presented to the new South African government post liberation in
1994 was a
Herculean one. Each homeland had an education system of its own and in
South Africa
there was a separate education department for each race group. Now
there are no
homelands and we live in a non-racial, non-sexist multi-party
democracy. This welcome
change has necessitated a massive re-organization of the management of
the education
system involving the melding of disparate fragments of varying
quality. This is no easy
task.
It also needs to be acknowledged that more Herculean efforts are
required in order to
transform basic education into a functional system which is well able
to deliver the
quality of education needed to empower the youth and the previously
uneducated
segments of society. This to make them into happy and useful citizens
who are well
equipped to build the type of future for the nation that is envisaged
in the Constitution.
Blaming apartheid for the ills of the education system is an excuse
that is wearing
increasingly thin as time passes. The children now entering the system
of education are
“born-frees.” They are entitled to more than “gutter education.”
The Bill of Rights guarantees the right to basic education to
everyone. This right is not
classified as a socio-economic right subject to “progressive
realization” over time. It is a
right that has been due and claimable by everyone, child and adult
alike, since 1994. The
State is required by law to respect, protect, promote and fulfil the
right to basic education
along with all of the other rights and freedoms enshrined in the
Constitution. If it does not
do so, it is acting illegally and can be brought before the Courts for
the purpose of
obtaining suitable legal redress. This form of help could include a
declaration of rights
and an order directing the education authorities to take the steps
necessary to correct that
which ails the system. Also, a supervision order is claimable in terms
of which the
education authorities will be required to report back to the Courts on
the progress being
made toward the realization of the right to basic education for all at
stipulated intervals.
In this way a constitutionally compliant system of education can be
put in place, to the
overall benefit of society as well as to those who learn and those who
teach. It is, on any
analysis of the war on poverty, ignorance and disease, through
education that these three
scourges will most sustainably and effectively be conquered. It is
also self-evident that a
child who comes to school hungry and sick is not as well able to
benefit from classes as a
healthy, disciplined and well fed child. Children who are orphaned by
AIDS and other
causes have responsibilities in family context which detract from
their ability to take full
benefit from any education system. These are very real problems in a
society in which
47% of the population live in relative poverty and 8% on less than a
dollar a day. It is
also shameful that these “poorest of the poor” have doubled in number
between 1996 and
2005. Recent widening of the social grants umbrella, which now covers
some 12 million
people does address dire poverty, but it is not sustainable to have so
many indefinitely on
welfare in a developmental state. Promoting the achievement of
equality, a constitutional
goal of the new South Africa, can obviously not take place in a
context in which the gap
between the “haves” and the “have nots” is allowed to grow in this
way. The most
sustainable way in which to close this gap is to provide quality
education that prepares
learners to become economically active members of society. At the
moment those
emerging from schools find themselves swelling the ranks of the
unemployed and the
criminal under-class.
The most frightening statistic ( source Hough & Horne ) to emerge from
the system as it
has functioned in the last 12 or so years relates to the rate of
functional literacy of Black
matriculants who have been subjected to the current educational
system. In round
numbers: of the 1,560,000 six year olds who entered the first grade of
our public school
system 12 years ago only two thirds reached grade 10 and a third made
it to matric at the
end of last year. Of these, some 360,000 passed. On being tested for
their functional
literacy in English ( their preferred language of learning) it was
found that only 15% of
the 278,000 Black matriculants are functionally literate. The gross
number is 42,000
Black school leavers with the potential to hold down a skilled job.
Put differently, each
province on average produced only 4600 functionally literate Black
matriculants in 2007.
The situation portrayed by these figures is a national disgrace.
Unpacked and made
digestible they mean that only 1 in 29 ( i.e. 3.5%) Black children
entering the school
system emerge with matric certificates in a state which enables them
to enter the realms
of trainability, skills acquisition, higher education and
employability in an economy in
which skills are in short supply. Menial workers are no longer needed
in any great
numbers due to globalization, mechanization and a labour dispensation
that discourages
their employment. Our school drop out rate is 77% over the twelve
years of schooling.
According to UNESCO figures, the international norm is 21%.
These are monumental problems, and there is no quick fix solution. The
most enlightened
and progressive provincial education departments are aware of the poor
return the
taxpayer is receiving on the investment in education voted in their
budgets each year.
Means of “boxing smarter” are being devised. Leadership training of
staff in schools and
in management of education is an effective way of introducing some
positive energy.
Organizational shortcomings, dysfunctional schools and the problems of
teachers who do
not teach, or even know how to do so, need to be addressed. The
phenomena of violence
and ill-discipline at schools are obvious threats to improvement. The
failure to insist on
mother tongue education in the formative years is another factor which
experts say
contributes to poor performance. Parents who want their children
educated in English
will have to take responsibility for raising them from birth to speak
and think in English,
failing which, their early education, in the best interests of each
child, will have to be in
the mother tongue. A radical revision of the way in which education is
supplied,
administered and delivered is needed if the situation is to be
corrected. The nation is in
peril of regressing if nothing is done.
Paul Hoffman SC
Director: Centre For Constitutional Rights,
F.W. de Klerk Foundation
Cape Town
4 April 2008.
israeliteknight
> What can you expect. Here's how black Africans compared to Koreans on
> the 2003TIMSS:
>
> http://i26.tinypic.com/23uemnd.jpg
>
> Remember now: 2 standard deviations below the norm on IQ testing is
> considered "mentally retarded".
>
> Quote: "At present the South African public school system is
> delivering functionally literate
> Black (African) matriculants at a rate of 1 in 29 of those who enter
> our educational
> system."
>
> Bwahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!
>
> GIGO as a poster by the name of drydem on soc.culture.asian.american
> just loves to say - garbage in, garbage out.
>
The US did very poorly in both math and science on the TIMSS survey in
1995, scoring 492 in math [117 points lower than Singapore] and 513 in
science [67 points lower than Singapore]. In the 2003 survey, we
scored 12 points higher in math than in 1995, and 15 points higher in
science, which was still 101 and 51 points respectively lower than
Singapore.
On the surface, this seems like very poor performance, but when our
math score is broken down by race, it's precisely the score we'd
expect. If we assume the 13% who took the test who were blacks scored
in the range of Botswana (366), the 74% who were Whites scored in the
range of the Netherlands (536), the 7% who were Hispanics scored in
the range of Chile (387), the 4% who were Asians scored in range of
China (586), and the 2% who were jews scored in the range of Israel
(440), the aggregate score is 504, exactly the score we received on
TIMSS math:
math blacks Whites Hispanic Asian jews
Botswana Nlands Chile China Israel
Score 366 536 387 586 440
US 13% 74.00% 7% 4% 2%
This table can be viewed in its original form at
http://christianparty.net/timssrace2003.htm
But our higher score on TIMSS science cannot be explained by making
the same assumptions, which produces a score of 506, 21 points lower
than our actual score of 527? Is it at all possible that this 15 point
increase in the score since 1995, a score 21 points higher than
predicted by race, was due to an improvement in education [no child
left behind], or can it be entirely explained by other factors?
science blacks Whites Hisp Asian jews
Botswana Nlands Chile China Israel
Score 366 536 413 571 488
US 13% 74.00% 7% 4% 2%
7% of the students in Botswana who participated in TIMSS were Whites,
so assuming that American blacks score in the same range as Botswana
is probably already too generous. Assuming that Hispanics score in
the same range as Chile fits in perfectly with their demonstrably poor
performance on SAT, GRE, and ACT here in the US, so there's no reason
to try a higher estimate for Hispanics. Assuming that Asians in the
US score in the same range as Taipei or Hong Kong, or that jews in the
US score in the same range as jews in Israel, is already too generous,
as schools in so many foreign countries have proven in spades that
they have done a much better job of educating their own races than our
"multicultural" experiment in education has proven here.
The only category in question are the 74% who took the test who
selected "White" as their race. Bear in mind that many jews,
Hispanics, and even blacks, often select this category as they're not
prohibited from doing so. But in order for us to rationalize the
median score to 527, we must assume that this group had a median score
of 565. This is a score 39 points higher than the Netherlands, 7
points higher than Korea, and only 13 points lower than Singapore.
Is that at all possible? Could it be that the media has concealed a
simple truth: that the race and gender gaps increased during
precisely the time they proclaimed from the rooftops that our grand
multicultural experiment caused it to decrease?
Well, this is exactly what the Graduate Record Exam proved:
· The gap between Asian men and Black women jumped from 234 to
267 points.
· gap between White men and Black women jumped from 182 to 199
points.
· gap between Asian men and Asian women jumped from 66 to 72
points.
· gap between Indian men and Indian women jumped from 52 to 68
points.
· gap between Mexican men and Mexican women jumped from 66 to
71 points.
· gap between Black men and Black women jumped from 42 to 45
points.
· gap between “Other” men and “Other” women increased from 74
to 75 points.
· gap between all men and all women increased from 73 to 76
points.
blacks Whites Hisp Asian jews
Botswana USA Chile Japan Israel
Score 366 565 413 571 488
US 13% 74.00% 7% 4% 2%
47.58 418.1 28.91 22.84 9.76
This of course if very bad news for multiculturalists--but it's
fantastic news for Whites, which is the ONLY thing that counts anyway
in this putative Christian nation.
Bob LeChevalier
[racist and sexist tripe ending with...]
>This of course if very bad news for multiculturalists--but it's
>fantastic news for Whites, which is the ONLY thing that counts anyway
>in this putative Christian nation.
Well look at what nincompoop showed up after all these years to spew
noisome material from its strange orifice?
Did you finally finish your prison term turkey?
lojbab
Bob LeChevalier - artificial linguist; genealogist
loj...@lojban.org Lojban language www.lojban.org
israeliteknight
It's been a real pleasure watching Richasiankid wipe up the floor with
your huge fat .ss, logjam.
Are you down to less than 450 pounds yet? If your body is as fat as
your thick head, you must be over 600 pounds by now.
Why is it that you don't accord Richasiankid the same honor of
accusing him of posting "[racist and sexist tripe ending with...]"?
pg
> The US did very poorly in both math and science on the TIMSS survey in
> 1995, scoring 492 in math [117 points lower than Singapore] and 513 in
> science [67 points lower than Singapore]. In the 2003 survey, we
> scored 12 points higher in math than in 1995, and 15 points higher in
> science, which was still 101 and 51 points respectively lower than
> Singapore.
And in places like Indonesia and Malaysia --- they don't even dare to
take the test. Why? Because the majority would flunk the test.
> On the surface, this seems like very poor performance, but when our
> math score is broken down by race, it's precisely the score we'd
> expect. If we assume the 13% who took the test who were blacks scored
> in the range of Botswana (366), the 74% who were Whites scored in the
> range of the Netherlands (536), the 7% who were Hispanics scored in
> the range of Chile (387), the 4% who were Asians scored in range of
> China (586), and the 2% who were jews scored in the range of Israel
> (440), the aggregate score is 504, exactly the score we received on
> TIMSS math:
>
> math blacks Whites Hispanic Asian jews
> Botswana Nlands Chile China Israel
> Score 366 536 387 586 440
> US 13% 74.00% 7% 4% 2%
When you talk about "Asian", you gotta be careful. Because among the
"Asian" you got a lot of "those things" as well.
It would be nice if someone can break down the "Asian" score by race,
not by country, but by race.
Bob LeChevalier
>On May 5, 7:56 pm, Bob LeChevalier <loj...@lojban.org> wrote:
>> israeliteknight<israelitekni...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> [racist and sexist tripe ending with...]
>>
>> >This of course if very bad news for multiculturalists--but it's
>> >fantastic news for Whites, which is the ONLY thing that counts anyway
>> >in this putative Christian nation.
>>
>> Well look at what nincompoop showed up after all these years to spew
>> noisome material from its strange orifice?
>>
>> Did you finally finish your prison term turkey?
>>
>> lojbab
>> Bob LeChevalier - artificial linguist; genealogist
>> loj...@lojban.org Lojban languagewww.lojban.org
>
>It's been a real pleasure watching Richasiankid wipe up the floor with
>your huge fat .ss, logjam.
Really? When was this?
I just looked on Google and found one post by him that was crossposted
to alt.education, and it wasn't about education and I didn't comment.
On misc.education, he shows up more, but only because people seem to
crosspost replies to him, but I had to look back to early 2006 for a
place where he posted and I responded (he was mostly responding to
someone else). There certainly is some racism in his posts (and I
called him on it) but it isn't the sort of noisome drooling bile that
your strange orifice puts out.
>Are you down to less than 450 pounds yet?
I was once briefly that high. While I have a weight problem, it isn't
quite that severe.
>Why is it that you don't accord Richasiankid the same honor of
>accusing him of posting "[racist and sexist tripe ending with...]"?
Because I don't see his posts that had racist and sexist tripe?
israeliteknight
It would also be nice if we had the 12th grade scores and not just the
8th grade scores, because that's where the racial differences *really*
start to appear.
But actually there are a number of the lower scoring Asian countries
now taking the tests. The Philippines as expected scored in the range
of South Africa and Chile, at 378 in TIMSS math. Indonesia scored in
the range of Iran, Jordan, and Macedonia, at 411 in TIMSS math.
Thailand took PISA and scored in the range of Mexico, Chile, and
Romania, at 417 in math. And your point about Asian races rather than
just countries is a good point, as the Chinese are essentially one
Asian race in a number of different countries like Hong Kong, Taiwan,
and of course Mainland China--all three of which now score higher than
Japan, surprisingly enough.
And all that is why Asians in Maryland score much higher than Asians
in California.
But the race that really throws our scores off [read: RECUCES our
scores, significantly] is jews, not Asians, and the following analysis
of state to state and race to race SAT scores shows why.
Based on the racial composition of Iowa, the highest scoring state at
1195, New York, one of the lowest scoring states at 1007, and
Washington, DC, ground zero in intellectual achievement on EVERY test
imaginable at 965, and the SAT scores reported by race, we should see
scores of 1052, 1003, and 934 respectively. This means that Iowa’s
actual score was 134 points higher than estimated, New York’s was 4
points higher, and DC’s was 31 points higher:
Indian Asian black Mexican Puerto Rican Hispanic White jew Mamzer
Calculated Actual Diff
SAT Score 971 1084 857 909 909 926 1059 860 1002
Iowa 0.40% 1.60% 2.50% 3.80% 91% 0% 1% 100.00%
N.Y. 0.50% 6.90% 17.40% 16.30% 57% 0% 1.50% 100.00% 100%
D.C. 0.40% 3.20% 56.50% 0.00% 0.00% 8.20% 30.30% 0.00% 1.40% 100.00%
100%
Iowa 3.9 17.3 21.4 0.0 0.0 35.2 960.5 0.0 10.0 1048.4 1195 -146.6
N.Y. 4.9 74.8 149.1 0.0 0.0 150.9 607.9 0.0 15.0 1002.6 1007 -4.4
D.C. 3.9 34.7 484.2 0.0 0.0 75.9 320.9 0.0 14.0 933.6 965 -31.4
http://christianparty.net/satrace2004.htm
If all else is equal except the score of Whites, then Whites in Iowa
must score at 1221 [162 points higher than the national average for
Whites], Whites in N.Y. must score at 1067 [8 points higher], and
Whites in DC must score at 1163 [104 points higher than the national
average].
How can it be, though, that the White Race in Iowa scores 154 points
higher than the White Race in New York, and 58 points higher than the
White Race in DC? How can this be rationalized?
Because Whites are a majority in Iowa, their scores must be higher
than Iowa’s average of 1195. Because blacks are a majority in DC, how
can it be explained that the average score for DC of 965 was 6 points
lower than the average score for blacks of 971? It seems improbable
that blacks in the “state” which spends more per capita for
“education” than any other part of the globe [five times as much per
student as Iowa] would score LOWER Than the national average for
blacks.
The answer is jews.
Because jews demanded in the 1960’s that they not be counted as a
separate race, we don’t know the exact population of jews in either DC
or New York. Because Whites are only 91% and Asians are only 1.6% of
Iowa’s population, if Whites there score 1221, then Iowa’s calculated
score is exactly 1195. But in order to explain the very low score of
DC where blacks are only 56.5% of the population, we must assume that
at least 4.5% of the population there are jews who score closer to
their brethren in Israel than to any local populations.
Viola. That fits the equation perfectly, giving DC a calculated score
of exactly 965, exactly as reported by the SAT.
But what about this whopping 154 point difference between Whites in
Iowa and “whites” [note lower case ‘w’] in New York?
Same answer: jews.
Jews themselves claim there are 6 million jews in the US and that 4.6
million are in New York. If so, this might mean that something like
24% of New Yorkers who are listed as Whites are actually jews who
score in the range of their brethren in Israel, rather than in the
range of our brethren in Germany or Ireland.
In order for the calculated score for New York to match its actual
score, the percentage of jews there must be 24.5%, producing a score
of exactly 1007.
israeliteknight
>
> - Show quoted text -
Most of our testing organizations have become bastions of feminism,
teaching "gender equality" AND "racial equality" at the same time
that their own tests prove that the gender and race gap are
INCREASING, dramatically.
But not even their tests demonstrate the REAL sex differences as well
as actual scores of actual applicants at our universities. For
example, at a time when 55% of college admissions were women, only 10
of 244 applicants to the University of Texas were women and 234 were
men. More significantly, there were 8 male applicants for every one
female applicant at the 650 score level, 60 at the 700 level, 32 at
the 750 level, and 26 at the 800 level. And there were no female
applicants above the 850 level compared to 61 male applicants.
If this scenario is typical, and we have zero evidence that it's not,
then to achieve 55% female admissions, our universities must reject
226 of the most qualified applicants [most of the male applicants] in
order to accept the very least 10 qualified applicants, the female
applicants, and only 8 male applicants.
Is it at all possible that our universities are routinely rejecting
97% of the most qualified male applicants in order to achieve their
"gender" goal of "equal admissions" for women, and other "minorities"?
Not only is it possible, but with race traitors like Richard C.
Atkinson at the helm, it's INEVITABLE!
And exactly WHO are the 97% who're DENIED admission to the very
universities that their fathers and Forefathers spilt blood to create
and protect? WHITE MEN.
http://christianparty.net/physics.htm
pg
eastern people from Iran, Iraq, Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, Turkey, Saudi
Arabia, Syria, Azerbaijan, Oman, Yemen, UAE, Qatar, and others.
Those are semites, the same group as Jews.
Don't ever forget that their population in US is burgeoning, and
expanding FAST !!!
These people may even have blue eyes and blond hair, but they sure
ain't the same stock as the Europeans.
But it ain't hard to track their numbers ... just pay attention to the
mosque and suria in the neighborhood. The more of those places you
spot, the more they are.
On May 7, 3:09 pm, israeliteknight <israelitekni...@gmail.com> wrote:
Jim Walsh
(in article
<0c6bbf9f-b52a-4395...@l28g2000prd.googlegroups.com>):
> because that's where the racial differences *really* start to appear.
Because the human species is not in fact divided into races, there can't be
"racial" differences.
--
Love, Jim
(I often delete parts of the previous post and I often remove excessive
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Jim Walsh
(in article
<9f2544a7-9dd7-4ee2...@q1g2000prf.googlegroups.com>):
> with race traitors like Richard C. Atkinson at the helm
Because there are no races at all, the term "race traitor" shows your
ignorance.
Bob LeChevalier
>Most of our testing organizations have become bastions of feminism,
>teaching "gender equality" AND "racial equality" at the same time
>that their own tests prove that the gender and race gap are
>INCREASING, dramatically.
The only gap that is increasing dramatically is that between reality
and what passes for "thought" in your strange nincompoop anatomy.
>For example, at a time when 55% of college admissions were women, only 10
>of 244 applicants to the University of Texas were women and 234 were
>men.
Since the U of Texas had a lot more that 244 applicants, common sense
shows that you pulled this out of your strange orifice. In order for
your statements to be true (55% women admissions, and only 10 women
applicants), the entering class at U of Texas would have to have been
exactly 10 women and 8 men, or in the same proportion but less. Since
there has been no class at the U of Texas with only 18 members or
fewer, your nonsense is clearly seen for what it is,.
> More significantly, there were 8 male applicants for every one
>female applicant at the 650 score level, 60 at the 700 level, 32 at
>the 750 level, and 26 at the 800 level. And there were no female
>applicants above the 850 level compared to 61 male applicants.
The silliness of your statistics is laughable, even if you actually
had a clue what you were saying.
>If this scenario is typical, and we have zero evidence that it's not,
[guffaw]
We have zero evidence that you are sane.
>then to achieve 55% female admissions, our universities must reject
>226 of the most qualified applicants [most of the male applicants] in
>order to accept the very least 10 qualified applicants, the female
>applicants, and only 8 male applicants.
Well, I see you've learned arithmetic. Now provide the evidence that
the University of Texas only admitted 18 students in some year.
>Is it at all possible that our universities are routinely rejecting
>97% of the most qualified male applicants in order to achieve their
>"gender" goal of "equal admissions" for women, and other "minorities"?
No it is not possible. Since males are roughly half the population,
for universities to reject 97% of male applicants, then no more than
6% of the population could be attending college. Since in fact the
percentage is a lot higher, your numbers are demonstrated to have been
processed out of your strange orifice.
>And exactly WHO are the 97% who're DENIED admission to the very
>universities that their fathers and Forefathers spilt blood to create
>and protect?
When did anyone spill blood to protect a university? The closest that
I can think of was when VMI, which was at the time more a high school
than a college, turned out its cadets during the civil war, as part of
the lost cause of the South.
israeliteknight
> On Fri, 9 May 2008 08:06:58 +0800,israeliteknightwrote
> (in article
>
> > with race traitors like Richard C. Atkinson at the helm
>
> Because there are no races at all, the term "race traitor" shows your
> ignorance.
>
> --
> Love, Jim
> (I often delete parts of the previous post and I often remove excessive
> crossposts.)
>
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What reason would you have for remaining in such a state of DENIAL?
Would you explain that to us?
Do you know how many people agree with you?
NONE.
Of the 281,421,906 who participated in the 2000 US Census, NONE of
them said they were not a member of a race--ALL of them identified
themselves by RACE, and 274,595,678 claimed they were ONE RACE.
http://christianparty.net/population.htm
Don't spend too much time listening to logjam, who's about the only
other person on the entire planet who spouts such nonsense and who
might agree with you.
The races are actually different SPECIES. Blacks are a separate
SPECIES from Asians, who're a separate SPECIES from Eastern Europeans,
who're a separate SPECIES from Western Europeans, who're a different
SPECIES from the British Isles, who're a different SPECIES from
Spaniards. When we've managed to identify 22 THOUSAND different
SPECIES of orchids, we can certainly identify the many different
SPECIES of "people", don't you think?
The differences between these different SPECIES of orchids are minute
compared to the VAST differences between the "White Race" and the
"black race". 25 African nations have average iq's lower than Koko
the Gorilla, you're closer to the gorilla SPECIES than you are to the
"White Race".
Bob LeChevalier
>Of the 281,421,906 who participated in the 2000 US Census, NONE of
>them said they were not a member of a race
Probably because it wasn't an option on the form.
>Don't spend too much time listening to logjam, who's about the only
>other person on the entire planet who spouts such nonsense and who
>might agree with you.
Do you really need cites proving this silly claim wrong? How about
the geneticist Luca Cavalli-Sforza?
>The races are actually different SPECIES.
All of world of biological science disagrees with you.
>Blacks are a separate SPECIES from Asians,
Disproof: Tiger Woods (among others)
>who're a separate SPECIES from Eastern Europeans,
The percentage of Russians with Tatar blood is quite high.
>who're a separate SPECIES from Western Europeans, who're a different
>SPECIES from the British Isles, who're a different SPECIES from
>Spaniards.
Just think of all those people of each of your so-called "species"
that freely and productively interbreed.
>When we've managed to identify 22 THOUSAND different
>SPECIES of orchids,
which of course do NOT freely and productively interbreed. It's a lot
easier for plants to become separate species, since they don't move.
Once separated by enough distance through slow propagation over many
generations, they inherently have no reason to maintain interbreeding
capability, so they don't.
>we can certainly identify the many different SPECIES of "people", don't you think?
If we could, we would. But in fact there is no basis to do so.
The genetic variation among human beings is far less than among most
species.
"The average proportion of nucleotide differences between a randomly
chosen pair of humans (i.e., average nucleotide diversity, or p) is
consistently estimated to lie between 1 in 1,000 and 1 in 1,500. This
proportion is low compared with those of many other species, from
fruit flies to chimpanzees...." And 85% of that minimal variation
occurs within inhabitants of each continent.
http://www.nature.com/ng/journal/v36/n11s/full/ng1435.html
See also
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_%28classification_of_human_beings%29
>The differences between these different SPECIES of orchids are minute
and you know this how?
Not only are there more species than there are in all the Mammalia,
there are more genera.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orchids
>compared to the VAST differences between the "White Race" and the
>"black race".
There is no "white race" nor a "black race". And as stated, there are
no identifiable differences that hold across all members of any of the
various populations people have tried to identify as "races".
>25 African nations have average iq's lower than Koko the Gorilla,
No. But you obviously do.
>you're closer to the gorilla SPECIES than you are to the "White Race".
That would not follow even if true, since IQ has nothing to do with
breeding interfertility. After all, some human female had your kids,
before giving you the boot. Alas, if your kids prove fertile, that
means that nincompoop isn't a separate species. Though whence came
that strange orifice that noisome material exudes from is a mystery to
all biologists.
israeliteknight
>
> >The differences between these different SPECIES of orchids are minute
>
> and you know this how?
>
> Not only are there more species than there are in all the Mammalia,
> there are more genera.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orchids
>
> >compared to the VAST differences between the "White Race" and the
> >"black race".
>
> There is no "white race" nor a "black race". And as stated, there are
> no identifiable differences that hold across all members of any of the
> various populations people have tried to identify as "races".
>
> >25 African nations have average iq's lower than Koko the Gorilla,
>
> No. But you obviously do.
>
> >you're closer to the gorilla SPECIES than you are to the "White Race".
>
> That would not follow even if true, since IQ has nothing to do with
> breeding interfertility. After all, some human female had your kids,
> before giving you the boot. Alas, if your kids prove fertile, that
> means that nincompoop isn't a separate species. Though whence came
> that strange orifice that noisome material exudes from is a mystery to
> all biologists.
>
> lojbab
> Bob LeChevalier - artificial linguist; genealogist
> loj...@lojban.org Lojban languagewww.lojban.org
Do you ever get tired of contradicting yourself? First, you claim
"biological science disagrees" that there are DIFFERENT and DISTINCT
races or SPECIES of "people", then you claim the RACE of Russians has
been tainted with "Tatar blood"!!!???:
<<<>The races are actually different SPECIES.
All of world of biological science disagrees with you.
>Blacks are a separate SPECIES from Asians,
Disproof: Tiger Woods (among others)
>who're a separate SPECIES from Eastern Europeans,
The percentage of Russians with Tatar blood is quite high.>>>
You make this argument because you KNOW Tatars are a FOREIGN RACE to
the Russians, and that you hope to prove that the Russian RACE is not
pure.
And that is PURE BS.
To this DAY, the Tatars are a separate and distinct RACE, and neither
the Finns nor the Russians would DARE mix their holy seed with them.
Furthermore, there are 800 Tatars in Finland [they are mamzers with
Turkish blood who practice Islam], and THEY would never mix with
Finns, nor Russians, either, so how could Russian blood be tainted
with Tatars?
Russians have also occupied Latvia for more than half a century. Even
though Lativans have offered them $2,000 each to GET OUT [a LOT of
money to a Russian], they refuse to leave and they still constitute
40% of the population. Yet neither Latvians nor Russians, who are
both WHITE, have ever intermarried with each other. They are SEPARATE
AND DISTINCT RACES OF WHITES.
It's much less likely that a Russian would mix with a Tatar.
By trying to prove there are no SPECIES, you proved that you KNOW
there are!
israeliteknight
> Don't forget that amongst the "whites" are the newcomers, the middle-
> eastern people from Iran, Iraq, Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, Turkey, Saudi
> Arabia, Syria, Azerbaijan, Oman, Yemen, UAE, Qatar, and others.
>
> Those are semites, the same group as Jews.
>
> Don't ever forget that their population in US is burgeoning, and
> expanding FAST !!!
>
> These people may even have blue eyes and blond hair, but they sure
> ain't the same stock as the Europeans.
>
> But it ain't hard to track their numbers ... just pay attention to the
> mosque and suria in the neighborhood. The more of those places you
> spot, the more they are.
>
>
> > Based on the racial composition of Iowa, the highest scoring state at
> > 1195, New York, one of the lowest scoring states at 1007, and
> > Washington, DC, ground zero in intellectual achievement on EVERY test
> > scores of 1052, 1003, and 934 respectively. This means that Iowa’s
> > actual score was 134 points higher than estimated, New York’s was 4
> > points higher, and DC’s was 31 points higher:
>
> > Indian Asian black Mexican Puerto Rican Hispanic White jew Mamzer
> > Calculated Actual Diff
>
> - Show quoted text -
It was bad enough that during Christmas, in the town square there was
a Christmas celebration on one side, and a jew
"celebration" [celebrating the talMUD, of course] on the other side.
But THIS year, there were THREE celebrations, this time including the
Islam one.
BOTH of these races need to GO!!
We owe them NOTHING. WE won the war, not them. There's no GOOD
reason for them to be here. And I know from talking to these Muslims
[who by the way are all perfect Gentlemen, compared to jews who are
complete JERKS] that even though they came here through political
assylum, that today they COULD return without any problems.
One of them in fact went to Iran recently to his father's funeral, and
brought his US born son with him. If there was a political assylum
problem, how is it that he could travel to places that most US
citizens can't? I had planned to visit the Behistun Rock in Iran and
couldn't even get a visa, and had to stay in Dubai--durn.
Bob LeChevalier
>> The percentage of Russians with Tatar blood is quite high.
>Do you ever get tired of contradicting yourself?
I don't contradict myself.
>First, you claim "biological science disagrees" that there are DIFFERENT and DISTINCT
>races or SPECIES of "people",
Biological science recognizes only one species of homo sapiens as the
only member of the genus homo that is not extinct.
>then you claim the RACE of Russians has been tainted with "Tatar blood"!!!???:
I neither used the word "race" or "tainted". There is no "Race of
Russians".
I said:
<> The percentage of Russians with Tatar blood is quite high.
>>who're a separate SPECIES from Eastern Europeans,
>
>The percentage of Russians with Tatar blood is quite high.>>>
>
>You make this argument because you KNOW Tatars are a FOREIGN RACE to
>the Russians,
Tatars are not a "race" any more than Russians are. However, they are
Asian, so the large percentage of Russians with both Tatar and Russian
ancestry shows that the two populations have interbred successfully
and productively, which contradicts your silly claim that they are
separate species. (of course all of those with both Russian and Tatar
blood therefore would not be members of any "Russian race" or Tatar
race" even if such a thing existed).
>and that you hope to prove that the Russian RACE is not pure.
There is no Russian race, and never was, pure or otherwise.
>And that is PURE BS.
Everything you post is pure BS.
>To this DAY, the Tatars are a separate and distinct RACE,
No.
>and neither the Finns nor the Russians would DARE mix their holy seed with them.
There is nothing holy about any seed.
When the Tatars ruled Russia and raped every woman they could get hold
of, the Russians didn't exactly have a lot of choice.
>Furthermore, there are 800 Tatars in Finland [they are mamzers with
>Turkish blood who practice Islam], and THEY would never mix with
>Finns, nor Russians, either, so how could Russian blood be tainted
>with Tatars?
There is also DNA evidence of Asian-ancestral genotypes all over
Northern and Eastern Europe:
http://www.dnatribes.com/news/2006_04_01_archive.html
Lenin's father had some Tatar ancestry. His mother was mixed German
and Russian ancestry.
http://histclo.com/bio/l/bio-len.html
The Tatars ruled Russia for several hundred years. During that time
period, for Russian leaders, marrying into the Tatars was considered
advantageous.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Descent_from_Genghis_Khan
<After the Mongol invasion of Russia, the Rurikid rulers of Russian
< principalities and the Bagration kings of Georgia were eager to
< obtain political advantages for themselves and their countries by
< marrying into the House of Genghis. Alexander Nevsky was adopted by
< Batu Khan as his son. Alexander's grandson Yury of Moscow married a
< sister of Uzbeg Khan. However, they had no progeny. On the other
< hand, petty Mongol princelings of Genghisid stock sometimes settled
< in Russia. For instance, Berke's nephew adopted the Christian name
< Peter and founded St. Peter's Monastery in Rostov, where his
< descendants were long prominent as boyars.[3]
<
<St. Theodore Stratelates, the patron saint of Fyodor the Black, as
< illustrated in his personal Gospel Book.The issue of three
< Russian-Mongol marriages may be traced down to the present. The most
< famous was the marriage of St. Fyodor the Black, later proclaimed a
< patron saint of Yaroslavl, to a daughter of the Mongol khan
< Mengu-Timur.[4] Fyodor's relations with the khan were idyllic: he
< spent more time in the Horde (where he was given extensive
< possessions) than in his capital. Male-line descendants of Fyodor's
< marriage to the Tatar princess include all the later rulers of
< Yaroslavl and two dozens princely families (such as the Shakhovskoy,
< Lvov, or Prozorovsky, among others), which passed Genghis genes to
< other aristocratic families of Russia.
<
<Prince Gleb of Beloozero, a grandson of Konstantin of Russia, was
< another Rurikid prince influential at the Mongol court. Gleb married
< the only daughter of Khan Sartaq. From this marriage descends the
< House of Belozersk, whose scions include Princes Ukhtomsky and
< Beloselsky-Belozersky.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2007/05/24/nosplit/dt2401.xml
>Tatar ancestry was claimed by numerous noble families in Russia. The
> Princes Meshchersky were the converted offspring of one Hussein
> murza, while Isakhar, founder of the Zagriazhsky line, is said to
> have been a relative of the khan.
>
>Emigrés since the 19th century have spread the Tatar genes throughout
> western Europe and America. Surprisingly, they include such prominent
> literary figures as Alexander Herzen and Michael Ignatieff (both
> Meshchersky descendants) and Vladimir Nabokov, whose reputed
> forebear, Nabok murza, defected to Muscovy in the 14th century.
> Nabokov's grandfather, the Russian minister of justice in the reign
> of Alexander III, was so oriental-looking that he was known as "The
> Chinaman".
>Yet neither Latvians nor Russians, who are both WHITE, have ever intermarried with each other.
Bullshit.
http://www.popline.org/docs/0066/287013.html
Before independence, 17% of marriages in Latvia were Russian/Latvian
intermarriages. Since independence the rate of intermarriage has
INCREASED.
>They are SEPARATE AND DISTINCT RACES OF WHITES.
Nope.
Jim Walsh
(in article <djob249kt2cmjrg59...@4ax.com>):
>
>> compared to the VAST differences between the "White Race" and the
>> "black race".
>
> There is no "white race" nor a "black race". And as stated, there are no
> identifiable differences that hold across all members of any of the various
> populations people have tried to identify as "races".
Well said.
--
Love, Jim
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israeliteknight
>
> The Tatars ruled Russia for several hundred years. During that time
> period, for Russian leaders, marrying into the Tatars was considered
>
> >Tatar ancestry was claimed by numerous noble families in Russia. The
> > Princes Meshchersky were the converted offspring of one Hussein
> > murza, while Isakhar, founder of the Zagriazhsky line, is said to
> > have been a relative of the khan.
>
> >Emigrés since the 19th century have spread the Tatar genes throughout
> > western Europe and America. Surprisingly, they include such prominent
> > literary figures as Alexander Herzen and Michael Ignatieff (both
> > Meshchersky descendants) and Vladimir Nabokov, whose reputed
> > forebear, Nabok murza, defected to Muscovy in the 14th century.
> > Nabokov's grandfather, the Russian minister of justice in the reign
> > of Alexander III, was so oriental-looking that he was known as "The
> > Chinaman".
> >Yet neither Latvians nor Russians, who are both WHITE, have ever intermarried with each other.
>
> Bullshit.
>
> http://www.popline.org/docs/0066/287013.html
> Before independence, 17% of marriages in Latvia were Russian/Latvian
> intermarriages. Since independence the rate of intermarriage has
> INCREASED.
>
> >They are SEPARATE AND DISTINCT RACES OF WHITES.
>
> Nope.
>
> lojbab
> Bob LeChevalier - artificial linguist; genealogist
> loj...@lojban.org Lojban languagewww.lojban.org
>>and neither the Finns nor the Russians would DARE mix their holy seed with them.
>There is nothing holy about any seed.
I know that you are Abraham's ***seed***, but you seek to kill Me,
because My Word is not given room in you. Joh 8:37
Ezra 9:2 For they have taken of their daughters for themselves, and
for their sons: so that the ***holy seed*** have mingled themselves
with the people of those lands: yea, the hand of the princes and
rulers hath been chief in this trespass.
Ezr 9:14 Should we again break thy commandments, and join in affinity
with the people of these abominations? wouldest not thou be angry with
us till thou hadst consumed us, so that there should be no remnant nor
escaping?
Ezra 10:3 Now therefore let us make a covenant with our God to put
away [yatsa #3318] all the wives, and such as are born of them,
according to the counsel of my lord, and of those that tremble at the
commandment of our God; and let it be done according to the Torah.
Nehemiah 9:2 And the ***seed of Israel*** separated themselves from
all foreigners, and stood and confessed their sins, and the iniquities
of their fathers.
Nehemiah 9:3 And they stood up in their place, and read in the book of
the law of Jehovah their God a fourth part of the day; and another
fourth part they confessed, and worshipped Jehovah their God.
Nehemiah 13:3 Now it came to pass, when they had heard the Torah, that
they separated from Israel all the mixed multitude.
israeliteknight
> On Sun, 11 May 2008 02:39:59 +0800, Bob LeChevalier wrote
>
>
>
> >> compared to the VAST differences between the "White Race" and the
> >> "black race".
>
> > There is no "white race" nor a "black race". And as stated, there are no
> > identifiable differences that hold across all members of any of the various
> > populations people have tried to identify as "races".
>
> Well said.
>
> --
> Love, Jim
> (I often delete parts of the previous post and I often remove excessive
> crossposts.)
>
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How come you two didn't go hand in hand to the Census Bureau when they
went to 281,429,906 different Americans and ASKED them if they were a
RACE, and when 281,429,906 Americans replied and said "YES, not only
are we a RACE, but we are of 20 DIFFERENT races", and when not a
SINGLE one of them, not even you to maroons, said "no"?
jew biologists don't define our words. DICTIONARIES and CENSUSES and
GOVERNMENTS and UNIVERSITIES and WHITE people do, and this is what we
ALL agree with:
The lineage of a family, or continued series of descendants from a
parent who is called the stock. A **** is the series of descendants
indefinitely.
Even the FBI forensic labs use hair to determine RACE:
<<<A human hair can be associated with a particular racial group based
on established models for each group. Forensic examiners differentiate
between hairs of Caucasoid (European ancestry), Mongoloid (Asian
ancestry), and Negroid (African ancestry) origin, all of which exhibit
microscopic characteristics that distinguish one racial group from
another.
Head hairs are generally considered best for determining race,
although hairs from other body areas can be useful. Racial
determination from the microscopic examination of head hairs from
infants, however, can be difficult, and hairs from individuals of
mixed racial ancestry may possess microscopic characteristics
attributed to more than one racial group.
The identification of race is most useful as an investigative tool,
but it can also be an associative tool when an individual's hairs
exhibit unusual racial characteristics.>>>
http://christianparty.net/race.htm
btw, you can also determine SEX just from HAIR.
Bob LeChevalier
Sorry, nincompoop, but your misinterpretations of the Bible have
nothing to do with reality. But since you love Ezra so much:
Ezra.4
<[1] Now when the adversaries of Judah and Benjamin heard that the
< children of the captivity builded the temple unto the LORD God of
< Israel;
<[2] Then they came to Zerubbabel, and to the chief of the fathers, and
< said unto them, Let us build with you: for we seek your God, as ye
< do; and we do sacrifice unto him since the days of Esar-haddon king
< of Assur, which brought us up hither.
<[3] But Zerubbabel, and Jeshua, and the rest of the chief of the
< fathers of Israel, said unto them, Ye have nothing to do with us to
< build an house unto our God; but we ourselves together will build
< unto the LORD God of Israel, as king Cyrus the king of Persia hath
< commanded us.
<...
<12] Be it known unto the king, that the Jews which came up from thee
< to us are come unto Jerusalem, building the rebellious and the bad
< city, and have set up the walls thereof, and joined the foundations.
Ezra.6
<[7] Let the work of this house of God alone; let the governor of the
< Jews and the elders of the Jews build this house of God in his place.
<[8] Moreover I made a decree what ye shall do to the elders of these
< Jews for the building of this house of God: that of the king's goods,
< even of the tribute beyond the river, forthwith expences be given
< unto these men, that they be not hindered.
...
<[14] And the elders of the Jews builded, and they prospered through
< the prophesying of Haggai the prophet and Zechariah the son of Iddo.
< And they builded, and finished it, according to the commandment of
< the God of Israel, and according to the commandment of Cyrus, and
< Darius, and Artaxerxes king of Persia.
<[15] And this house was finished on the third day of the month Adar,
< which was in the sixth year of the reign of Darius the king.
<[16] And the children of Israel, the priests, and the Levites, and the
< rest of the children of the captivity, kept the dedication of this
< house of God with joy,
<[17] And offered at the dedication of this house of God an hundred
< bullocks, two hundred rams, four hundred lambs; and for a sin
< offering for all Israel, twelve he goats, according to the number of
< the tribes of Israel.
israeliteknight
>
> - Show quoted text -
By DEFINITION, jews were a RACE, jews today CLAIM to be a race, jews
claim they are NOT Israelites, Israelites are a RACE, and neither the
race of jews nor the RACE of Israelites are to have anything to do
with the RACE called Ammonites [descendants of Ammon], nor the RACE
called Moabites [descendants of Moab]:
n. L. radix and radius having the same original. This word coincides
in origin with rod, ray, radiate, &c.
The lineage of a family, or continued series of descendants from a
parent who is called the stock. A **** is the series of descendants
indefinitely.
Even though both Ammonites and Moabites were descendants of Lot, they
are STILL considered by GOD HIMSELF to be separate and distinct races
who we are to have NOTHING to do with, just as we are to have nothing
to do with half-breeds who God calls mamzers:
A mamzer shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to
his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the
LORD, Deuteronomy 23:2
An Ammonite or Moabite shall not enter into the congregation of the
LORD; even to their tenth generation shall they not enter into the
congregation of the LORD forever: Deuteronomy 23:3
"Edom is in modern Jewry" The Jewish Encyclopedia, 1925 edition, Vol.
5, Page 41
“The Edomites were conquered by John Hyrcanus who forcibly converted
them to Judaism, and from then on they constituted a part of the
Jewish people, Herod being one of their descendants”, The Standard
Jewish Encyclopedia, (Garden City, NY: Doubleday & Company, Inc.,
1966), pg. 594, AS WELL AS in the The New Standard Jewish Encyclopedia
(Garden City, NY: Doubleday & Company, Inc., 1977) p. 589
"From this time the Idumeans [read: Edomites] became an inseparable
part of the Jewish people”, Encyclopedia Judaica Jerusalem, in Volume
8, page 1147
“When, years before, John Hyrcanus had forced Judaism on the Idumeans
[Edomites] he evidently conjectured that the new, though unwilling,
converts could learn to identify their own destiny with that of his
people”, The Jews, their History, Culture, and Religion, pg. 121
But there is a final twist declared in Encyclopedia Judaica 1971 Vol
10:23: "JEWS BEGAN IN THE 19TH CENTURY TO CALL THEMSELVES HEBREWS AND
ISRAELITES IN 1860".
iow, jewsTHEMSELVES claim jews are a RACE who are descendants of Esau
no matter how much you try to change them to a "religion"!
israeliteknight
>
>
>
> >> compared to the VAST differences between the "White Race" and the
> >> "black race".
>
> > There is no "white race" nor a "black race". And as stated, there are no
> > identifiable differences that hold across all members of any of the various
> > populations people have tried to identify as "races".
>
> Well said.
>
> --
> Love, Jim
> (I often delete parts of the previous post and I often remove excessive
> crossposts.)
>
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> There is no "white race" nor a "black race". And as stated, there are no
> identifiable differences that hold across all members of any of the various
> populations people have tried to identify as "races".
When it comes to miscegenation with other species [not “races” as the
jews call them], the “human” species is the WORST, yet there are less
than two dozen identifiable species of “humans”. If miscegenation
worked, there’d be just one huge milkshake made up of literally
trillions of cross breeds which would have drowned out the original
species millennia ago.
There are only 73 dog species throughout the planet, called “breeds”
by jews, and dogs are smart enough by themselves to know not to
miscegenate with other species of dogs, much less cats or horses or
whatever. But human intervention has resulted in a number of cross
breeds of dogs which humans find so “cute”, but which God HATES with
a passion and has found a clever way to prevent them from propagating
themselves.
Whatever that process is, it’s more subtle than the slam dunk fact
that a donkey and a horse can breed a mule, but a mule can’t breed a
mule, which means there will always be a donkey and a horse species,
but NEVER a mule species.
Ditto for the two dozen human species. The mamzer offspring of mixed
race parents is HATED by EVERYONE, even God Himself, and thus is not
very popular, and naturally dies off. Quadroons in this country
calling themselves “blacks” have already begun the process—if the
murder rate amongst them just continues to grow at a linear rate [and
it might grow exponentially, who knows], then within just two
centuries, that milkshake will kill itself off, to nobody's regret.
Bob LeChevalier
>By DEFINITION, jews were a RACE,
By science, they weren't and aren't.
>jews today CLAIM to be a race,
No they don't. They may claim to be a "tribe" in the sense of an
ethnic group.
>jews claim they are NOT Israelites,
There are no Israelites. But I doubt that any significant number of
Jews has ever made any such claim.
>Israelites are a RACE,
No, and they don't exist.
>and neither the
>race of jews nor the RACE of Israelites are to have anything to do
>with the RACE called Ammonites [descendants of Ammon], nor the RACE
>called Moabites [descendants of Moab]:
None of them around either.
>Even though both Ammonites and Moabites were descendants of Lot, they
>are STILL considered by GOD HIMSELF
You don't speak for God, nincompoop. You do a lousy job of speaking
for yourself.
>to be separate and distinct races who we are to have NOTHING to do with,
Nobody WANTS to have anything to do with you, so no one cares what
silly excuse you use for it.
>But there is a final twist declared in Encyclopedia Judaica 1971 Vol
>10:23: "JEWS BEGAN IN THE 19TH CENTURY TO CALL THEMSELVES HEBREWS AND
>ISRAELITES IN 1860".
So much for your claim
>jews claim they are NOT Israelites,
But of course none of this has anything to do with reality.
>iow, jews THEMSELVES claim jews are a RACE
No. There is no use of the word "race" in that quote.
>who are descendants of Esau
There is no mention of the word "Esau" in that quote.
>no matter how much you try to change them to a "religion"!
I'm not trying to change anyone into anything. You are pretending to
change noisome effluvium from your strange orifice into something that
makes sense, but you aren't succeeding.
Bob LeChevalier
>When it comes to miscegenation with other species
You can't miscegenate with other species, nincompoop.
>the “human” species is the WORST, yet there are less
>than two dozen identifiable species of “humans”.
There is only one. The last other one, homo neanderthalis, went
extinct something like 35,000 years ago, unless someone cloned their
DNA to create you.
>There are only 73 dog species throughout the planet,
Only one - canis familiaris. There are some who think that wolves
should be considered part of the same species as well, but that is
controversial.
>called “breeds” by jews,
AKC and various other kennel clubs identify breeds, of which there are
hundreds.
>and dogs are smart enough by themselves to know not to
>miscegenate with other species of dogs,
There are no other species of dogs, but there are plenty of mongrels.
>But human intervention has resulted in a number of cross
>breeds of dogs which humans find so “cute”, but which God HATES with
>a passion and has found a clever way to prevent them from propagating
>themselves.
All of the breeds recognized by AKC have to have been proven to breed
true in order to gain that recognition.
If God truly hated them, then he could just "poof" and they are gone.
>Whatever that process is, it’s more subtle than the slam dunk fact
>that a donkey and a horse can breed a mule, but a mule can’t breed a
>mule, which means there will always be a donkey and a horse species,
>but NEVER a mule species.
Duh.
>Ditto for the two dozen human species.
Only one.
>The mamzer offspring of mixed race parents is
universal. We are all mongrels.
HATED by EVERYONE, even God Himself, and thus is not very popular,
Are you claiming to be a mamzer? I certainly cannot imagine someone
less popular than you, nincompoop.
>and naturally dies off.
Oops, you're still around.
>Quadroons in this country calling themselves “blacks” have already begun the process—if the
>murder rate amongst them just continues to grow at a linear rate [and
>it might grow exponentially, who knows],
Your evidence is lacking.
>then within just two centuries, that milkshake will kill itself off, to nobody's regret.
By then racists should have manage to kill themselves off - we can
only hope.
israeliteknight
How can there be RACISTS if there are no RACES?
Now we all see why God HATES mamzers.
Jim Walsh
(in article <rorj24db1a6930lh8...@4ax.com>):
> israeliteknight <israeli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> When it comes to miscegenation with other species
>
> You can't miscegenate with other species, ....
Again, well done.
He really does not understand even basic biology.
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Jim Walsh
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> israeliteknight <israeli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> By DEFINITION, jews were a RACE,
>
> By science, they weren't and aren't.
>
>> jews today CLAIM to be a race,
>
> No they don't. They may claim to be a "tribe" in the sense of an
> ethnic group.
>
>> jews claim they are NOT Israelites,
>
> There are no Israelites. But I doubt that any significant number of
> Jews has ever made any such claim.
>
>> Israelites are a RACE,
>
> No, and they don't exist.
>
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Bob LeChevalier
>How can there be RACISTS if there are no RACES?
The same way that there can alchemists and astrologists, even if
alchemy and astrology are nothing but meaningless mumbo jumbo.
"Racism" describes the belief/attitude, not the reality.
>Now we all see why God HATES mamzers.
We would all pity your self-hatred, if you weren't such a nincompoop.
We can imagine why God would hate a nincompoop like you. Since He
permits you to exist, He apparently thinks even you can be redeemed,
though I'm afraid that my faith doesn't stretch THAT far.
Your name
4392-9858-f...@x19g2000prg.googlegroups.com:
> Now we all see why God HATES
I am sure you can proove without a shadow of a doubt that God exists
without Resorting to the use of Religious text of any kind?
Jim Walsh
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> israeliteknight <israeli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> How can there be RACISTS if there are no RACES?
>
> The same way that there can alchemists and astrologists, even if
> alchemy and astrology are nothing but meaningless mumbo jumbo.
> "Racism" describes the belief/attitude, not the reality.....
Exactly.There are no witches, but we regularly read about people being killed
because others thought they were witches.
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israeliteknight
As usual, what you "think", and REALITY, are two opposite ends of the
totem pole:
"OUR *****RACE***** IS THE MASTER RACE. WE ARE DIVINE GODS ON THIS
PLANET. WE ARE AS DIFFERENT FROM THE INFERIOR RACES AS THEY ARE FROM
INSECTS. IN FACT, COMPARED TO OUR RACE, OTHER RACES ARE BEASTS AND
ANIMALS, CATTLE AT BEST. OTHER RACES ARE CONSIDERED AS HUMAN
EXCREMENT. OUR DESTINY IS TO RULE OVER THE INFERIOR RACES. OUR
EARTHLY KINGDOM WILL BE RULED BY OUR LEADER WITH A ROD OF IRON. THE
MASSES WILL LICK OUR FEET AND SERVE US AS OUR SLAVES." MENACHEM
BEGIN, FORMER PRIME MINISTER OF ISRAEL
The preface of The Jewish Encyclopedia, signed by Cyrus Adler, is this
statement:
'An even more delicate problem that presented itself at the very
outset was the attitude to be observed by the encyclopedia in regard
to those Jews who, while born within the Jewish community, have, for
one reason or another, abandoned it. As the present work deals with
the Jews as a race, it was found impossible to exclude those who were
of that race, whatever their religious affiliations might have been.'
"In the same encyclopedia is a statement by Joseph Jacobs, B.A.,
formerly president of the Jewish Historical Society of England:
'Anthropologically considered, the Jews are a race of markedly uniform
type, due either to unity of race or to similarity of environment.'
One of the first things I discovered is that while Gentiles who call
the Jews a "race" are condemned, Jewish leaders have for centuries
routinely called themselves a race. The leader of American Jewry in
the 1930s, Rabbi Stephen F. Wise, said it succinctly in this dramatic
statement,
"Hitler was right in one thing. He calls the Jewish people a race and
we are a race."
Right up to the present day, there are many statements illustrating
how Jewish leaders matter-of-factly view themselves not just as a
religion, but as an identifiable race, genetically distinguishable
from other peoples.
Nahum Goldman, one of the leading Jews of the 20th Century and former
president of the World Zionist Organization, said it very bluntly:
.The Jews are divided into two categories, those who admit they belong
to a race distinguished by a history thousands of years old, and those
who don't. The latter are open to the charge of dishonesty.
The former Israeli Prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, speaking to
Jewish group in southern California said:
"If Israel had not come into existence after World War II then I am
certain the Jewish race wouldn't have survived.I stand before you and
say you must strengthen your commitment to Israel."
An editorial entitled "Some Other Race" in the New York weekly Forward
(A very prestigious Jewish publication) urges Jews to list themselves
on the U.S. Government census form as a race. It goes on to suggest:
". On question eight [of the form, which asks about race], you might
consider doing what more than one member of our redaktzia [editorial
staff] has done: checking the box 'some other race' and writing in the
word 'Jew'."
Charles Bronfman, a main sponsor of the $210 million "Birthright
Israel," an organization specifically committed to preventing
intermarriage between Jews and Gentiles, expressed the need to
preserve the Jewish genetic character as expressed in the Jewish DNA.
Bronfman is brother of Edgar Bronfman, Sr., president of the World
Jewish Congress. He said,
".you're losing a lot - losing the kind of feeling you have when you
know [that] throughout the world there are people who somehow or other
have the same kind of DNA that you have."
Are you going to continue to claim that logjam is RIGHT and these
worldwide jew "experts", who are MUCH MORE PUBLISHED than you'll ever
be, are ALL WRONG?
israeliteknight
> On Wed, 14 May 2008 16:39:43 +0800, Bob LeChevalier wrote
>
> > israeliteknight <israelitekni...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> How can there be RACISTS if there are no RACES?
>
> > The same way that there can alchemists and astrologists, even if
> > alchemy and astrology are nothing but meaningless mumbo jumbo.
> > "Racism" describes the belief/attitude, not the reality.....
>
> Exactly.There are no witches, but we regularly read about people being killed
> because others thought they were witches.
>
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But there ARE witches, and the author of Henry Potter is an ADMITTED
witch, and it would not be in the Word of God if it were not TRUE:
Exodus 22:18 Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.
Bob LeChevalier
>But there ARE witches, and the author of Henry Potter is an ADMITTED
>witch,
Cite please.
> and it would not be in the Word of God if it were not TRUE:
It isn't. It is the words of men about God, and parts may or may not
be "true" depending on one's religious beliefs.
It is a safe bet that what you interpret as "true" isn't.
Bob LeChevalier
>"OUR *****RACE***** IS THE MASTER RACE. WE ARE DIVINE GODS ON THIS
>PLANET. WE ARE AS DIFFERENT FROM THE INFERIOR RACES AS THEY ARE FROM
>INSECTS. IN FACT, COMPARED TO OUR RACE, OTHER RACES ARE BEASTS AND
>ANIMALS, CATTLE AT BEST. OTHER RACES ARE CONSIDERED AS HUMAN
>EXCREMENT. OUR DESTINY IS TO RULE OVER THE INFERIOR RACES. OUR
>EARTHLY KINGDOM WILL BE RULED BY OUR LEADER WITH A ROD OF IRON. THE
>MASSES WILL LICK OUR FEET AND SERVE US AS OUR SLAVES." MENACHEM
>BEGIN, FORMER PRIME MINISTER OF ISRAEL
No cite is provided, and no one believes you, nincompoop. But even if
such words were spoken, and the context makes sense, that is still
only the opinion of one person.
>The preface of The Jewish Encyclopedia, signed by Cyrus Adler,
Still only one person, even if accurate. He also died in 1940, so his
opinion predate modern genetic evidence that there are no races. The
date also indicates that you've quote-mined in obsolete books.
>"In the same encyclopedia
The date also indicates that you've quote-mined in obsolete books.
>is a statement by Joseph Jacobs, B.A.,
>formerly president of the Jewish Historical Society of England:
He died in 1916, and thus even more greatly preceded modern scientific
knowledge. Why don't you join the 21st century.
>Nahum Goldman, one of the leading Jews of the 20th Century
died 1982 and probably retired about 1960. Still quite out of date.
>.The Jews are divided into two categories, those who admit they belong
>to a race distinguished by a history thousands of years old, and those
>who don't. The latter are open to the charge of dishonesty.
Not like you.
>Are you going to continue to claim that logjam is RIGHT and these
>worldwide jew "experts"
They aren't any more expert than you.
>who are MUCH MORE PUBLISHED than you'll ever be,
Why would that be relevant? Were they published in journals of
biological science.
>are ALL WRONG?
If they said what you claim with the meaning that you choose to infer,
yes.