China is the worst country in the world with the worst government in
the world.
May the Chinese government FALL.
BAD KARMA for PRC!
--
tois egregorosin hena kai koinon kosmon einai
ton de koimomenon hekaston eis idion apostrephesthai
One day, something really bad will befall on your family, for what you
are doing today.
Something really, really horrible.
God is fair.
I'm so glad you blame the Chinese government just as you blame God.
The Chinese government must look like God to you, you fucking idiot.
The funny thing is the quake includes areas with a high Tibetan
population. Maybe god don't like Tibetans.
Most people don't wish these tragedies on anyone. Most have feelings of
compassion.
Marius
"AirRaid" <AirRa...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Harsh, dude.
> China is the worst country in the world with the worst government in
> the world.
It's not, actually.
> May the Chinese government FALL.
That would be bad for everyone. It needs to change at its own pace.
FYI
The hardest hit county, Wenchuan, with a population of 111,800, lies
in southeast part of the Tibetan-Qiang Autonomous Prefecture of Aba,
146 km to the northwest of Chengdu, provincial capital of Sichuan has
a large ethnic Tibetan population.
A real dilema for the anti-Chinese airheads. If you don't help China
you are really ignoring the Tibetans.
Blood is on your hands
Your bane's
A tearful destiny
Black clouds will carry
Rain of blood
I've seen it rain
We were lost
On grinding ice
In fear and hunger
Dead winter reigned
In Araman
Noldor !!!
> Hey China
http://player.omroep.nl/?aflID=7005205
You see Desmond Tutu getting a "light of truth" reward from the Dala Lama
and some interesting things are said.
The pro-Tibetan struggle is not against China but for justice. Justice for
Tibet is also good for China.
Kind Regards,
Peter
--
mailto:pe...@dharma.dyndns.biz
Yeah, but there is a high concentration of jerks on these NGs.
>> Most people don't wish these tragedies on anyone. Most have feelings of
>> compassion.
>
> Yeah, but there is a high concentration of jerks on these NGs.
I like the word "ignorance" better :-)
Kind regards,
Peter
--
mailto:pe...@dharma.dyndns.biz
FYI. The epicenter of the earthquake, Wenchuan, is located in Ngawa
Tibetan and Qiang Autonomous Prefecture of Sichuan province. More than
half of the residdnts of the prefecture are ethnic Tibetans..
I'll agree. It is kinder, isn't it? ;-)
>> > Yeah, but there is a high concentration of jerks on these NGs.
>>
>> I like the word "ignorance" better :-)
>
> I'll agree. It is kinder, isn't it? ;-)
We *all* suffer from ignorance, no one excluded.
True. But there are degrees. Some of the ignorance shown on these NGs is
rather legendary.
Especially among you western hypocrites. You are nothing but a bunch
of arrogant asses who know nothing about China, but it never stops you
from trying to preach to the Chinese people about your already failing
western democracy. This earth quake is going to show what kind of cold
blooded western beasts you people in the entire western world truly
are while watching the Chinese people united together to try to
overcome such horrendous disaster.
You can go on laughing you stupid idiots. I hope you laughing all the
way to hell.
That is a horrible thing to say.
The tibetan people would not say that.
Buddha said, in the Dhammapada;
We are what we think.
All that we are arises with our thoughts.
With our thoughts we make the world.
Speak or act with an impure mind
And trouble will follow you
As the wheel follows the ox that draws the cart.
We are what we think.
All that we are arises with our thoughts.
With our thoughts we make the world.
Speak or act with a pure mind
And happiness will follow you
As your shadow, unshakable.
"Look how he abused me and beat me,
How he threw me down and robbed me."
Live with such thoughts and you live in hate.
"Look how he abused me and beat me,
How he threw me down and robbed me."
Abandon such thoughts, and live in love.
In this world
Hate never yet dispelled hate.
Only love dispels hate.
This is the law,
Ancient and inexhaustible.
You too shall pass away
knowing this, how can you quarrel?
--
Best Regards,
Evelyn
> Especially among you western hypocrites. You are nothing but a bunch
> of arrogant asses who know nothing about China, but it never stops you
> from trying to preach to the Chinese people about your already failing
> western democracy. This earth quake is going to show what kind of cold
> blooded western beasts you people in the entire western world truly
> are while watching the Chinese people united together to try to
> overcome such horrendous disaster.
>
> You can go on laughing you stupid idiots. I hope you laughing all the
> way to hell.
And what about karma? This disaster which met the Chinese people was
actually caused by the actions of the Chinese government. I've got no doubt
that it was a karma of the PRC and sham-Communist Chinese Party destroying
Tibet. I,ve a lot of compassion for people but none for "their" government
--- it's independent whether it's CCP or another government.
PS. If DL after the sooner-or-later coming independence of Tibet returns to
those of old practices which were wrong (what's rather unlikely) he will
have a bad karma, too. If he continues his new leftist line which gave him
popularity in the West and is able to reintegrate the tradition with the
modern non-feudal system, he will not have any wrong karma. But I believe
in the universality of Buddhism, esp. Vajrayana which is elastic and can
easily adjust to the modernized situation which many lamas proved in the
West as their experimental spiritual maneuver-field.
> Hopefully there's more to come.
If you understand karma, you'd know that this statement will
come back to haunt you. After something horrible will happen
to you, remember how you wished ill on innocent people.
> China is the worst country in the world with the worst government in
> the world.
Do you follow the news at all?
Ever heard of Myanmar?
Zimbabwe?
Iran?
Saudi Arabia?
etc, etc....
> Especially among you western hypocrites. You are nothing but a bunch
> of arrogant asses who know nothing about China, but it never stops you
> from trying to preach to the Chinese people about your already failing
> western democracy. This earth quake is going to show what kind of cold
> blooded western beasts you people in the entire western world truly
> are while watching the Chinese people united together to try to
> overcome such horrendous disaster.
Most people find this a terrible disaster, the others did not had a close
look into their heart but where just shouting an idea.
> You can go on laughing you stupid idiots. I hope you laughing all the
> way to hell.
Hell is where the anger is.
>>We *all* suffer from ignorance, no one excluded.
>
> True. But there are degrees. Some of the ignorance shown on these NGs is
> rather legendary.
I agree. You can sit lonely somewhere around the world and shout the things
you think; this need to be said, this is right and good to say.
There are idiots everywhere, both in the west and in China. Don't make the
mistake of thinking foolishness has anything to do with this person's
ethnicity. You have stupid people in your country too. Fight against
ignorance, as that is the real enemy and the real problem in the world.
--
Best Regards,
Evelyn
>Raymond in <25fk24d4khgann28f...@4ax.com> :
>
>> Especially among you western hypocrites. You are nothing but a bunch
>> of arrogant asses who know nothing about China, but it never stops you
>> from trying to preach to the Chinese people about your already failing
>> western democracy. This earth quake is going to show what kind of cold
>> blooded western beasts you people in the entire western world truly
>> are while watching the Chinese people united together to try to
>> overcome such horrendous disaster.
>
>Most people find this a terrible disaster, the others did not had a close
>look into their heart but where just shouting an idea.
In this particular case, there is something more. It shows western
heartlessness as an entire civilization. According to your fucking
western media, since Chinese are so rich today, they can deal with it
themselves. Your western civilization doesn't have to care. You only
care about finding out faults in the Chinese government.
>
>> You can go on laughing you stupid idiots. I hope you laughing all the
>> way to hell.
>
>Hell is where the anger is.
That is exactly right, and that is where all you western idiots
belong. I am bringing you to hell or bringing hell to you now. Are you
happy?!!!
>
>Kind regards,
>
> Peter
When idiots speak for you in your media and your government, you too
are an idiot. Don't blame me for showing you your own ugly face.
The earthquake is retribution? Amazing !
Anybody have the Hot Line Number for Beijing?
RO
What's 911 payback for?
That's why you are a stupid shit. You miss the truth by eating other
people's shit whereby becoming a piece of shit yourself.
For fucking shit. 911 is a self-inflicted drama. God has not spoken
yet.
Are you God's personal secretary?
> That's why you are a stupid shit. You miss the truth by eating other
> people's shit whereby becoming a piece of shit yourself.
Instead of knee-jerk reactions, without any intelligence, why don't you tell
us what you disagree with in the Dhammapada, and why.
If you are too stupid to understand, you deserve to stay in your
stupidity.
Why is that important to you? Are you an idol worshipper?
Hi,
I hope their government doesn't fall, they own almost $1 Trillion
worth of government bonds, without them America couldn't afford the
war.
Thanks
I've read it more than once. Why don't you tell us what you understand about
it and why you disagree with it. Or, we can let it stand, that you are you
are unable to make any intellectual comment on it, or anything else.
I can't stop you from eating shit, can I?
Yet you are the one who chooses to put such thoughts forward as your
expression.
--
Best Regards,
Evelyn
Yet surely even you realize that such rage is a kind of a hell.
Give up your rage and be at peace.
Not all westerners are bad and not all chinese are good.
Human beings are just that; human. We are all a mixture of good and bad.
--
Best Regards,
Evelyn
We know what our leaders are, and many of us agree with you about them. We
are free to criticize them and to vote them OUT of office. Can you say the
same? All chinese are not bad and all westerners are not good. We are
all a composite. We are all human. Give up your rage and put that energy
to good use. Go and help dig out those poor children trapped in the ruins!
--
Best Regards,
Evelyn
911 is the karmic payback for the American imperialist tendencies.
Original United States of America were founded not as an empire but as a
kind of a democratic escape fropm the British imperialism. It had its own
drawbacks, as some tolerance of slavery practices (by the way similarly to
the Athenians), but it was a democracy, anyway, not an empire.
They began to manifest those tendencies after the Civilan War. The
annexation of the "Indian Territory", the purchase of Alaska, the Cuban and
Philippine war were the beginning phase of the process which became
advanced from the WWI until now. They left their Monroe doctrine and
replaced them with the modified, imperial one.
The fact that I criticize the PRC doesn't change the fact tha i dpon't
restrain my critical view only to this regime, Ray.
Do you even pretend your own shit any less smelly than it already is?
It has always been my pleasure to prepare hell for the evil ones.
Someone has to do the dirty job for justice.
Nothing but a fucking lie that can't even cheat yourself. Our Chinese
leaders actually suffer with the victims in person and face to face
together. Can you say the same to any of your western fucking elected
bullshit millionaire gangsters? Fuck you for spreading your democracy
shit to me. Fuck you for being just another western arrogant asshole.
Most of all, please FUCK YOUR SELF.
<...>
> It has always been my pleasure to prepare hell for the evil
> ones.
> Someone has to do the dirty job for justice.
Don't feed this troll...
>"Raymond" <ni...@nizuy.com> a ?crit dans le message de news:
>17bm24phbuo8ivo04...@4ax.com...
>
><...>
>
>> It has always been my pleasure to prepare hell for the evil
>> ones.
>> Someone has to do the dirty job for justice.
>
>Don't feed this troll...
>
You just did, you stupid fucking horse manure. May you find eternal
horror and forever misery in hell.
When you post that, "God has not spoken yet," you're acting as God's
intermediary.
Why are you so obsessed with fecal matter? Everything that eats shits.
Not even worth mentioning.
Also, no matter how stinky anyones shit is, there is no shit here on a
newsgroup, unless you have created it in your own mind, and therefore no one
can enjoy it but yourself.
--
Best Regards,
Evelyn
Why not instead prepare kindness and generosity of spirit, forgiveness and
peace? Those are things that can even turn evil ones around.
--
Best Regards,
Evelyn
More rage, more excreta, more hell...... be instead at peace and all will be
good.
--
Best Regards,
Evelyn
Please be calm. Your anger and rage are creating a hell in your own mind.
You are conflicted and confused. You can't hurt me, but you are hurting
yourself a lot more than you realize.
All living beings recognize and appreciate peace, gentleness, loving
kindness.
All living beings dislike rage and anger and such confusion.
It is YOUR CHOICE alone, where you put your mind, my friend. Think about
being in a field of beautiful flowers. Think about a loving parent caring
for a child. Think about peace and you will be a lot happier.
Will it make you feel just a tiny bit better to know that there are some
good people in my small town in upstate New York who sent money this day to
help the victims of the earthquake?
--
Best Regards,
Evelyn
The 'negatories' like the dark side of the force, and prefer it to the
light side because it means definition and control.
EVERYONE can be a little bit 'negatory'... part of life... and some may
even cringe at the fact that it too must end.
Coffee in Light-ening
> I can't stop you from eating shit, can I?
Give it to the plants, they love it.
Kind regards,
Peter
--
mailto:pe...@dharma.dyndns.biz
There is no god, only superstitions. He's acting as himself.
Nothing can be further from the truth. This is the fucking hell
regardless whether I'm telling you about it or not. There is nothing
good in this fucking hell, but you appear too stupid to understand.
Who gives a fuck about turning evil ones around? I only wish them
straight to the deepest hell.
> Who gives a fuck about turning evil ones around? I only wish them
> straight to the deepest hell.
Do I read the novel "Chrysalids" by John Wyndham or listen to the speech of
the 21-th century man? When read your statement I bet that first
scenario ;->
You are just the kind of person I want to talk to Jim Walsh and Peter
Webb. These two constantly aggitate and try to create chaos and
dissension for China about election, democracy, free speech, freedom
of the press....
What China has is a peace of mind, steady jobs, money to spend and
enjoyment of life, food to eat, and a future they can look forward to.
Election, democracy, freedom of speech,... would not free the Chinese
people from past history of starvation, hardship and cruelty of
natural elements. Todays' Chinese leaders are doing a great job of
setting the nation to the advancement of the 21th cenury.
Why do I have to hurt you, you dipshit? I'm merely giving back what
you deserve to show your true color. Don't be scared. Only you can
hurt yourself either physically or mentally.
>
>All living beings recognize and appreciate peace, gentleness, loving
>kindness.
That's a fucking lie. I know for a fact you fucking Buddhists don't.
Otherwise you wouldn't be here debating me for this deplorable
subject. All you fucking assholes deserve the deepest Buddhist hell to
be deep fried for eternity.
>
>All living beings dislike rage and anger and such confusion.
That's utter ignorance. Only ignorant assholes say something like
that. You know no fucking shit.
>
>It is YOUR CHOICE alone, where you put your mind, my friend. Think about
>being in a field of beautiful flowers. Think about a loving parent caring
>for a child. Think about peace and you will be a lot happier.
You only prove yourself a fucking ignorant asshole with that stupid
shit. You don't know me. You are looking at the reflection of your
deplorable and ugly face, and you think I have to feel sorry about it?
Not fucking possible in hell I would even give a shit.
>
>Will it make you feel just a tiny bit better to know that there are some
>good people in my small town in upstate New York who sent money this day to
>help the victims of the earthquake?
Your entire country, your entire society, your entire civilization is
rotten and dying, and you want me to feel a tiny bit better? Sure. I'm
always happy for being who I am. The question is, what does that have
to do with your western culture being a fucking human disgrace?
Your mistake which I can careless.
Everyone does in certain places and at certain times. So what? It is our
nature to stink. Right now I stink of Shalimar :-) :-) :-)
--
Best Regards,
Evelyn
"Raymond" <ni...@nizuy.com> wrote in message
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Your hell wishes and your rage are really quite powerless to them, but they
have the most power over you. I am hoping you can turn yourself around and
be a happier person.
--
Best Regards,
Evelyn
"Raymond" <ni...@nizuy.com> wrote in message
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Raymond, I am an old lady and I am certainly not stupid, but there are good
things in this "hell" for those with eyes to see them. I can see your
anger, your hurt and your pain quite clearly, and I am trying to give you a
bit of great wisdom, but you aren't just now able to perceive it. Perhaps
in time you will come to a place of peace and you will one day realize I was
right.
--
Best Regards,
Evelyn
Well, then... how do you know that God has not spoken yet?
Did he tell you personally or are you just guessing?
Hello,
I haven't been to this newsgroup in a long time. I notice there are a lot
of cross posted things going on here, and was saddened to see all that
anger. My husband worked in China and he agreed that your system works
for you just now. He had a good experience there, and he says that all you
say is true about the past, and the fact that everyone has a job in China is
true.
I too have heard stories of religious repression, human rights violations,
forced sterilizations and unbelievable cruelty visited on the Tibetans.
How much of this is true, I can't say. I do know that the Dalai Lama has
only advocated peace and insists he doesn't want separation from China but
only peaceful and fair treatment for the people of Tibet.
I also know that rage and anger and hatred are harmful to the person who
does the hating, even more than the person it is directed towards.
I can assure you that as regards the terrible earthquake that has been
experienced, there are many westerners who genuinely care and wish to help
in any way they can. NO country is immune from natural disasters. All
people bleed and hurt, and when loved ones are killed, their families all
cry, both in the west and in China.
It is the nature of usenet groups to have all sorts of strange opinions
aired. Those opinions may not be representative of the majority, and they
may not be educated opinions either. They are just opinions. If one
person has an opinion you don't share, forget about it! Ranting on usenet
will solve nothing, rage and anger will solve nothing.
Kindness and understanding may even make miracles.
--
Best Regards,
Evelyn
I am sorry you are so lost in your rage you strike out even at a stranger
who bears you no ill will. I will no longer trouble you with my replies.
Peace...
--
Best Regards,
Evelyn
Don't give me the bullshit. My anger is always justified. That is why
I am in peace while I'm fucking all you idiots with everything I
please. It's all you evil doers and evil sympathizers who have a big
fucking problem with peace. And your fucking western arrogance does
not help you in the least. It is you who should be worried about your
own stupidity instead.
What an ignornat ass you are.
According to your president, if you are not with me, you are against
me. So get a clue and fuck off.
What inconsiderate stinky shit you are. Are all western Buddhists this
shameless like you?
You figure it out.
>I hope their government doesn't fall, they own almost $1 Trillion
>worth of government bonds, without them America couldn't afford the
>war.
$1 Trillion is nothing. A small amount for the US economy. And it just went
down by a significant amount with the previous Greenspan engineered
deliberate devaluation of the US dollar. Now they owe you half. haha. If
they can't sell their goods to the world, they have a revolution inside
China. Same, if they can't absorb the peasants coming into the urban areas
for a more prosperous life. So, who depends on whom? Buyer or seller? Each
cannot exist without the other.
> "Raymond" <ni...@nizuy.com> wrote in message
> news:mktl245jbqe9jc2i9...@4ax.com...
>> When idiots speak for you in your media and your government, you too
>> are an idiot. Don't blame me for showing you your own ugly face.
> We know what our leaders are, and many of us agree with you about them. We
> are free to criticize them and to vote them OUT of office. Can you say the
> same?
I believe that Raymond lives in Canada, so yes, he can.
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> According to your fucking western media, since Chinese are so rich today,
> they can deal with it themselves.
Actually, that would be the CCP. The CCP is refusing help offered by the
world. You may wish to ask it why.
> Our Chinese leaders actually suffer with the victims in person...
I didn't know that you were a citizen of the PRC. When did that happen?
> Election, democracy, freedom of speech,... would not free the Chinese people
> from past history of starvation, hardship and cruelty of natural elements.
Off course they would. All of those things lead to a healthier society, in
which benefits people in a practical way.
If this is for Tibet, then what is George W Bush for?
Speaking like a true CIA agent whose job is to create chaos and
dissension for China.
Elections, free speech would create a thousand disagreeing opinions
and nothing gets done.
> Don't give me the bullshit. My anger is always justified. That is why
> I am in peace while I'm fucking all you idiots with everything I
> please. It's all you evil doers and evil sympathizers who have a big
> fucking problem with peace. And your fucking western arrogance does
> not help you in the least. It is you who should be worried about your
> own stupidity instead.
Did you read "Chrysalids" by John Wyndham? Your discourse of "hate of evil"
reminds so much that one of Labradorians from the novel.
> Your hell wishes and your rage are really quite powerless to them, but
> they have the most power over you. I am hoping you can turn yourself
> around and be a happier person.
Anger is pure energy, with anger itself is nothing wrong.
I've also been raging for many, many years, til i was to old for it and got
burned from inside out and decided to leave my anger and became a more
friendly person, well with a little bit help of Zen :-)
Now i'm trying to fix the hole inside me :-P
Kind regards,
Peter
--
mailto:pe...@dharma.dyndns.biz
Fixing will not help. You will always have a hole in your head.
> Election, democracy, freedom of speech,... would not free the Chinese
> people from past history of starvation, hardship and cruelty of
> natural elements. Todays' Chinese leaders are doing a great job of
> setting the nation to the advancement of the 21th cenury.
But those leaders forget morality and ethics, these are very important
things for a society to become stable and selfloving. Without those China
will never make it.
> Fixing will not help. You will always have a hole in your head.
That's for feeding :-P
They have morality and ethics. Please talk to George Worthless Bush
about his morality and ethics.
>> FYI. The epicenter of the earthquake, Wenchuan, is located in Ngawa
>> Tibetan and Qiang Autonomous Prefecture of Sichuan province. More than
>> half of the residdnts of the prefecture are ethnic Tibetans..
>
> If this is for Tibet, then what is George W Bush for?
Maybe he can give money for the earthquake?
> They have morality and ethics.
Let them then stop the killings (p.e. Tibetans, Falun Gong and other), start
negotiating with the Dalai Lama. Let them bring the Human Rights to a much
higher level. Let the oppressed speak freely! Close the labour camps, stop
torturing, stop lying ...
Maybe i' am still a bit short.
> I'm so glad you blame the Chinese government just as you blame God.
> The Chinese government must look like God to you, you fucking idiot.
Well at least he's fucking :-))
> On Thu, 15 May 2008 02:31:31 +0800, Raymond wrote
> (in article <gdbm24p31c8utlr8k...@4ax.com>):
>
>> Our Chinese leaders actually suffer with the victims in person...
>
> I didn't know that you were a citizen of the PRC. When did that happen?
Always has been. He's part of their propaganda department.
And you are the Devil's convenient tool, the Buddha's worst enemy, and
humanity's shame.
Fuck you for coming back to soc.culture.china. May you die by
forsaking Buddha himself very soon.
> Hopefully there's more to come.
>
> China is the worst country in the world with the worst government in
> the world.
>
> May the Chinese government FALL.
fuck you!
> Elections, free speech would create a thousand disagreeing opinions and
> nothing gets done.
Well, then it is strange that (all things being equal) countries with
elections, free speech and so on are healthier, richer, cleaner, and
friendlier than countries that don't.
East and West Germany (before they were united).
North and South Korea.
Burma and Thailand.
U have no compassion.
If the same thing happened in your family,I think you'll not say that.
> AirRaid wrote:
>> Hopefully there's more to come.
>>
>> China is the worst country in the world with the worst government in
>> the world.
>>
>> May the Chinese government FALL.
>
>
> What's 911 payback for?
For the US supporting the corrupt Saudi government.
At least that's what bin Laden said.