Query on South African Websites
JohnM
Hi
I see Mark Richardson (Hi) is still here and I remember Ferdi also
and Sabsy, too, and oh, dear, Errol (Hi to all) - gosh can it be two
years already since I started posting my travelogue ? I bet there are
people here who don't know about it! Check out my site
http://www.scroll.demon.co.uk/za.htm
sharpish :-) As those who have read it can vouch, you've never read
anything on .za like that :-)
But enough of such self-publicity! I came back with a query: does
anybody know the website for Ravan Press and for University of Natal
Press ? Please, please let me know; I have been searching for ages.
Thanks.
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JohnM More Football Delights #11
"Zidane will have a large villa and a swimming pool
with a gardener thrown in " RTE
Web site http://www.scroll.demon.co.uk/spaver.htm
South African travelogue http://www.scroll.demon.co.uk/za.htm
Moira de Swardt
JohnM <jo...@scroll.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> I see Mark Richardson (Hi) is still here and I remember Ferdi also
> and Sabsy, too, and oh, dear, Errol (Hi to all) - gosh can it be
two
> years already since I started posting my travelogue ? I bet there
are
> people here who don't know about it! Check out my site
>
> http://www.scroll.demon.co.uk/za.htm
Interesting website. Worth a peek.
Moira, the Faerie Godmother
JohnM
<jo...@scroll.demon.co.uk> writes
>
>Hi
>
>I see Mark Richardson (Hi) is still here and I remember Ferdi also
>and Sabsy, too, and oh, dear, Errol (Hi to all) - gosh can it be two
>years already since I started posting my travelogue ?
Ohmigod and Peter HM is here as well .... hi ! And you are still
reporting each other for abuses to your ISPs. It brings tears
to my eyes...
Hi Moira. I had an interesting time in swz as you can see..
Still waiting for that website. Anyone ?
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JohnM More Football Delights #11
"Zidane will have a large villa and a swimming pool
with a gardener thrown in " RTE
Web site http://www.scroll.demon.co.uk/spaver.htm
Brazil 500 travelogue http://www.scroll.demon.co.uk/brazil/index.htm
NC
made up of much the same people, writing much the same bullshit & no one
budging an inch from their standpoints.
Have you been travelling again? I shall go off & visit your web site.
Norman
TJ
http://www.nu.ac.za/contact/contacts.asp
http://www.unpress.co.za/
University of Natal Press
(033) 260-5226
(033) 260-5801
bo...@nu.ac.za
JohnM
<in...@artslink.co.za.nospam> writes
THANKS !!!
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JohnM More Football Delights #11
"Zidane will have a large villa and a swimming pool
with a gardener thrown in " RTE
Web site http://www.scroll.demon.co.uk/spaver.htm
JohnM
<eg...@connect.ab.ca> writes
Norm !!! How's the log cabin ? :-)
Since I've been here, I travelled to Brazil
twice for a total three months.
http://www.scroll.demon.co.uk/brazil/index.htm
If you want. There are some good pix there, some
certainly better than the ones from .za.
JohnM
Thanks :-) Does that include Ravan ? I'll check.
sabsy
> >I see Mark Richardson (Hi) is still here and I remember Ferdi also
> >and Sabsy, too, and oh, dear, Errol (Hi to all) - gosh can it be two
> >years already since I started posting my travelogue ?
>
> Ohmigod and Peter HM is here as well .... hi ! And you are still
> reporting each other for abuses to your ISPs.
No
Moira de Swardt
> Hi Moira. I had an interesting time in swz as you can see..
The abbreviated form of Swaziland is SD. The e-ddress is sz.
I laughed out loud at some of your descriptions. Wonderfully
amusing and so authentic.
Moira, the Faerie Godmother
Peter H.M. Brooks
NC <eg...@connect.ab.ca> wrote in message
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> Well, well, well, JohnM! How the devil are you? Yes as you can see the
ng is
> made up of much the same people, writing much the same bullshit & no
one
> budging an inch from their standpoints.
>
year or two.
--
Want of variety leads to satiety.
NC
"Peter H.M. Brooks" <pe...@new.co.za> wrote in message
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Sure Peter, anything you say Peter.
Stefan A.
Interesting. What, in particular, have you changed your mind about? (I
haven't noticed, or read, your posts for quite some time.)
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/stefan
JohnM
Hello Peter!!! :-) Hope Cape Town is as welcoming as I left it.
Ah, changing our opinions. Isn't this the point of usenet ?
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JohnM More Football Delights #11
"Zidane will have a large villa and a swimming pool
with a gardener thrown in " RTE
Web site http://www.scroll.demon.co.uk/spaver.htm
JohnM
wa...@africaonline.co.sz> writes
You know I've been there then ;-)
You sound cool.
JohnM
<sa...@deletethis.pmail.net> writes
You mean you made up with the rest of the ng including Norman?
Hell, I wish I had some champagne :-)
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JohnM More Football Delights #11
"Zidane will have a large villa and a swimming pool
with a gardener thrown in " RTE
Web site http://www.scroll.demon.co.uk/spaver.htm
Stefan A.
JohnM <jo...@scroll.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> Ah, changing our opinions. Isn't this the point of usenet ?
Agreed. Though it happens all too seldom...
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/stefan
Peter H.M. Brooks
Stefan A. <kosmop...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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already been remarked, it hasn't been that interesting. I won't give an
exhaustive list of what I have changed my mind about, probably the most
fundamental is that I now agree with David Chalmers that pure
reductionism isn't sufficient for an explanation of consciousness. I am
still working on necessity of supervenience rather than emergence and I
am waiting for some books for the library to help me change my mind
about that.
Stefan A.
"Peter H.M. Brooks" <pe...@new.co.za> wrote:
> I won't give an exhaustive list of what I have changed my mind about,
> probably the most fundamental is that I now agree with David Chalmers
> that pure reductionism isn't sufficient for an explanation of
> consciousness. I am still working on necessity of supervenience
> rather than emergence and I am waiting for some books for the library
> to help me change my mind about that.
Well let us know what you find out. In the meantime you can think about
this following quote from Shih-t'ao, a Chinese painter who lived
sometime during the early Ming Dynasty (15th Century):
"In the old days Ku K'ai-chih attained the Triple Perfection, it is
claimed. As for me, I have reached the three follies: mad am I, mad my
language, mad my painting. I'm still looking for the way to true
madness though."
(Cited in Breyten Breytenbach's "The Memory of Birds in Times of
Revolution," pp. 140-141.)
--
/stefan
JohnM
<pe...@new.co.za> writes
> pure
>reductionism isn't sufficient for an explanation of consciousness. I am
>still working on necessity of supervenience rather than emergence
Oh wow Peter - please stop there:-) I'm glad you didn't
change your opinion about my travelogue...
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JohnM More Football Delights #11
"Zidane will have a large villa and a swimming pool
with a gardener thrown in " RTE
Web site http://www.scroll.demon.co.uk/spaver.htm
JohnM
Stefan A. <kosmop...@hotmail.com> writes
Shit guys you are challenging me now...
--
JohnM More Football Delights #11
"Zidane will have a large villa and a swimming pool
with a gardener thrown in " RTE
Web site http://www.scroll.demon.co.uk/spaver.htm
JohnM
Stefan A. <kosmop...@hotmail.com> writes
ohhh it's stefan ! I'm having such a ball *sniff sniff*
You know you are all swdis don't you ?
Peter H.M. Brooks
>
> Well let us know what you find out. In the meantime you can think
about
> this following quote from Shih-t'ao, a Chinese painter who lived
> sometime during the early Ming Dynasty (15th Century):
>
> "In the old days Ku K'ai-chih attained the Triple Perfection, it is
> claimed. As for me, I have reached the three follies: mad am I, mad
my
> language, mad my painting. I'm still looking for the way to true
> madness though."
>
paintings,.
Stefan A.
"Peter H.M. Brooks" <pe...@new.co.za> wrote:
Here's one (I think):
http://www.chineseartworld.com/Nigensha/p50a.jpg
This is supposedly a Shih-t'ao from the 17th Century, so perhaps it is a
different painter or Breyten got the date wrong?
--
/stefan
Peter H.M. Brooks
>
> > > "In the old days Ku K'ai-chih attained the Triple Perfection, it
is
> > > claimed. As for me, I have reached the three follies: mad am I,
> > > mad my language, mad my painting. I'm still looking for the way
to
> > > true madness though."
>
> > I don't suppose that you know a web site where one could see any of
> > his paintings,.
>
> Here's one (I think):
>
> http://www.chineseartworld.com/Nigensha/p50a.jpg
>
> This is supposedly a Shih-t'ao from the 17th Century, so perhaps it is
a
> different painter or Breyten got the date wrong?
>
I must confess that it doesn't appear to be a particularly 'mad'
painting - rather the reverse. I have enjoyed using the technique to
produce the bamboo though, it is quite satisfying to use the solid ink
and one of the round Chinese brushes and see how easy it is to produce
something in the style. It is, of course, rather a different matter to
produce such an elegant example - that takes a fair bit of practice. I
would like it if web-sites provided translations.
Just the other day I was in Sandton Square at the Imperial Chinese
restaurant where they had a number of pleasant paintings and drawings
and a couple of framed pieces of calligraphy. I could see that both
were the same text, but I would have liked a translation in the menu -
particularly one that also provided a literal translation of the
ideograms.
Moira de Swardt
> > Just the other day I was in Sandton Square at the Imperial
Chinese
> > restaurant where they had a number of pleasant paintings and
drawings
> > and a couple of framed pieces of calligraphy. I could see that
both
> > were the same text, but I would have liked a translation in the
menu
> > - particularly one that also provided a literal translation of
the
> > ideograms.
> So you live in Joburg now? Is the restaurant worth a visit? I
like
> good (and thus reasonably authentic) Chinese food.
I have eaten there. The decor was hideous. The meal was excellent.
Don't confuse good and reasonably authentic. They can be vastly
different things.
Moira, the Faerie Godmother
Moira de Swardt
Peter H.M. Brooks <pe...@new.co.za> wrote in message
> Just the other day I was in Sandton Square at the Imperial Chinese
> restaurant where they had a number of pleasant paintings and
drawings
> and a couple of framed pieces of calligraphy. I could see that
both
> were the same text, but I would have liked a translation in the
menu -
> particularly one that also provided a literal translation of the
> ideograms.
A friend, who had just learned the art of painting on T-shirts, went
to a Chinese restaurant and copied some attractive calligraphy. A
few months later some Chinese men pointed at her and laughed. She
made the effort then to ask one what her T-shirt said. The
response: "This dish is both cheap and delicious". :-)
Moira, the Faerie Godmother
Moira de Swardt
JohnM <jo...@scroll.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> You know I've been there then ;-)
Yip. It shows.
> You sound cool.
And you sound like a mighty discriminating young man. :-)
Moira, the Faerie Godmother
Peter H.M. Brooks
> In article <9l0ccl$h9v$1...@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net>,
> > restaurant where they had a number of pleasant paintings and
drawings
> > and a couple of framed pieces of calligraphy. I could see that both
> > were the same text, but I would have liked a translation in the menu
> > - particularly one that also provided a literal translation of the
> > ideograms.
>
> good (and thus reasonably authentic) Chinese food.
>
a few days as part of work.
It was a good meal, though, the hot and sour soup was very good indeed.
Peter H.M. Brooks
Moira de Swardt <moira.d...@africaonline.co.sz> wrote in message
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Peter H.M. Brooks
>
> > So you live in Joburg now? Is the restaurant worth a visit? I
> like
> > good (and thus reasonably authentic) Chinese food.
>
> I have eaten there. The decor was hideous. The meal was excellent.
> Don't confuse good and reasonably authentic. They can be vastly
> different things.
>
is a bit space and there is much cheap plastic Chinese tat. However, I
did think that there were some nice paintings on the wall. Maybe I am a
bit kind about these things, but I thought about how one would decorate
a concrete bunker in Sandton and thought that they hadn't done that
badly. It was considerably more elegant than some of the places I saw
and made something of a minimalist point.
Peter H.M. Brooks
>
> > You sound cool.
>
> And you sound like a mighty discriminating young man. :-)
>
Peter H.M. Brooks
> In article <9l1dgq$cs7$1...@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net>,
> "Peter H.M. Brooks" <pe...@new.co.za> wrote:
>
> > Be reasonable! One can't 'live' in Joburg! I was forced to be there
> > for a few days as part of work.
>
>
Exactly!
Peter H.M. Brooks
> In article <9l1bfr$b23$3...@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net>,
> "Moira de Swardt" <moira.d...@africaonline.co.sz> wrote:
>
> > I have eaten there. The decor was hideous. The meal was excellent.
> > Don't confuse good and reasonably authentic. They can be vastly
> > different things.
>
> decor is (much) less important to me.
>
I think that Moira is a little unkind. They were stuck with a concrete
bunker and I think that they put up some nice pictures. I agree that
the food was quite good though.
Peter H.M. Brooks
> In article <9l22q2$6qm$1...@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net>,
> > concrete bunker and I think that they put up some nice pictures. I
> > agree that the food was quite good though.
>
> liked, from my last visit so I will have to explore all over again.
>
You remind me of the cartoon to two goldfish in a bowl. The one asks the
other 'Do you come here often?'.
Moira de Swardt
Peter H.M. Brooks <pe...@new.co.za> wrote in message
> > > You sound cool.
> > And you sound like a mighty discriminating young man. :-)
> So, flattery does get you everywhere!
Absolutely!
Moira, the Faerie Godmother
Moira de Swardt
Peter H.M. Brooks <pe...@new.co.za> wrote in message >
> > I have eaten there. The decor was hideous. The meal was
excellent.
> > Don't confuse good and reasonably authentic. They can be vastly
> > different things.
>
> Indeed they can. I wouldn't agree with you about the decor,
however. It
> is a bit space and there is much cheap plastic Chinese tat.
However, I
> did think that there were some nice paintings on the wall. Maybe I
am a
> bit kind about these things, but I thought about how one would
decorate
> a concrete bunker in Sandton and thought that they hadn't done
that
> badly. It was considerably more elegant than some of the places I
saw
> and made something of a minimalist point.
The cheap plastic tat, together with pink tablecloths did not strike
me as minimalist. It struck me as horrible. It is spacious, but
that is not my most sought after characteristic except for business
dinners where one wants to be able to converse in absolute private.
Ten Bompas Road does "spacious" very, very well - interesting menu,
too, although a bit pricey.
One of the restaurants that does minimalist quite well is "Inferno"
in Greenside, except that they *do* have some kind of "floral"
arrangements which I always find most strange. I forgive that
restaurant for its flowers because the food is really very good at a
very reasonable price and the chef is a personal friend - and the
maitre d' is becoming a personal friend. It is as close to a home
ambience as one *can* get at a restaurant.
Incidentally Swaziland is not known for its fine cuisine, with good
reason, I'm afraid.
Moira, the Faerie Godmother
Moira de Swardt
Peter H.M. Brooks <pe...@new.co.za> wrote in message
> > > I have eaten there. The decor was hideous. The meal was
excellent.
> > > Don't confuse good and reasonably authentic. They can be
vastly
> > > different things.
> > Ok, true enough. If the food is good I might just have to
visit. The
> > decor is (much) less important to me.
> I think that Moira is a little unkind. They were stuck with a
concrete
> bunker and I think that they put up some nice pictures. I agree
that
> the food was quite good though.
The truth is that there are several restaurants on the Sandton
Square. Few of them look like concrete bunkers with cheap plastic
Chinese tat ... in fact that is a minority of one. The Japanese
one, I forget its name, looks most classy, as does the Butcher's
Shop (or whatever its name is) ... despite the fact that they really
do have a butcher's shop inside it.
They didn't have to get stuck with a concrete bunker, as I assume no
one forced them to rent there. Having selected the venue it was up
to them to do something with it. I think of "Soi" in Melville,
specialising in Thai and Vietnamese cooking. Their main decor seems
to be some Vietnam flags - the red ones with the small gold star in
the middle - and it comes across as being most attractive.
Chinese does not have to equal cheap plastic tat.
Moira, the Faerie Godmother
Moira de Swardt
Stefan A. <kosmop...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> Unfortunately I have forgotten what places I ate, and which ones I
> liked, from my last visit so I will have to explore all over
again.
Restaurants tend to change so often that it's worth the exploration.
"Yum" in Greenside is currently the most trendy - and I don't know
the proprietors. :-)
Moira, the Faerie Godmother
Peter H.M. Brooks
> > badly. It was considerably more elegant than some of the places I
> saw
> > and made something of a minimalist point.
>
> The cheap plastic tat, together with pink tablecloths did not strike
> me as minimalist. It struck me as horrible. It is spacious, but
> that is not my most sought after characteristic except for business
> dinners where one wants to be able to converse in absolute private.
> Ten Bompas Road does "spacious" very, very well - interesting menu,
> too, although a bit pricey.
>
Mordor again.
>
> One of the restaurants that does minimalist quite well is "Inferno"
> in Greenside, except that they *do* have some kind of "floral"
> arrangements which I always find most strange. I forgive that
> restaurant for its flowers because the food is really very good at a
> very reasonable price and the chef is a personal friend - and the
> maitre d' is becoming a personal friend. It is as close to a home
> ambience as one *can* get at a restaurant.
>
>
> Incidentally Swaziland is not known for its fine cuisine, with good
> reason, I'm afraid.
>
Peter H.M. Brooks
Moira de Swardt <moira.d...@africaonline.co.sz> wrote in message
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>
>
>
> The truth is that there are several restaurants on the Sandton
> Square. Few of them look like concrete bunkers with cheap plastic
> Chinese tat ... in fact that is a minority of one. The Japanese
> one, I forget its name, looks most classy, as does the Butcher's
> Shop (or whatever its name is) ... despite the fact that they really
> do have a butcher's shop inside it.
>
proprietoress who insisted in chatting to me when I wished to have a
quiet meal on my own which put me off completely.
>
> They didn't have to get stuck with a concrete bunker, as I assume no
> one forced them to rent there. Having selected the venue it was up
> to them to do something with it. I think of "Soi" in Melville,
> specialising in Thai and Vietnamese cooking. Their main decor seems
> to be some Vietnam flags - the red ones with the small gold star in
> the middle - and it comes across as being most attractive.
>
> Chinese does not have to equal cheap plastic tat.
>
original than some very western and tasteful places I have been to
Moira de Swardt
message
> Maybe I am too kind. I must look up Ten Bompas Road if I am
consigned to
> Mordor again.
You could do a lot worse.
> > One of the restaurants that does minimalist quite well is
"Inferno"
> > in Greenside, except that they *do* have some kind of "floral"
> > arrangements which I always find most strange. I forgive that
> > restaurant for its flowers because the food is really very good
at a
> > very reasonable price and the chef is a personal friend - and
the
> > maitre d' is becoming a personal friend. It is as close to a
home
> > ambience as one *can* get at a restaurant.
> Does this imply that it is both Italian and a supplier of spicy
food?
No, I have never worked out the strange name, but the cuisine is
"international" and the most "spicy" I've had there is the wasabi
mash which they serve with fish. I *made* them give me the recipe
before I left for Swaziland. It's *fabulous*.
> > Incidentally Swaziland is not known for its fine cuisine, with
good
> > reason, I'm afraid.
> Sorry to hear it.
Not nearly as sorry as I am. :-(
And there's no Woolworths Food Hall. Fortunately I can cook,
otherwise my impending demise would be imminent.
Moira, the Faerie Godmother
Moira de Swardt
message
> > Chinese does not have to equal cheap plastic tat.
> No, of course it doesn't. It comes over as more authentic to the
> original than some very western and tasteful places I have been to
> though.
Yes, as would a few grass mats on a dung floor be a more authentic
decor of restaurants specialising in African cuisine. However ...
Moira, the Faerie Godmother
JohnM
<moira.d...@africaonline.co.sz> writes
>Incidentally Swaziland is not known for its fine cuisine, with good
>reason, I'm afraid.
LOL I did have a good steak in the Sir Loin restaurant in that
brothel ensemble I described although I think it was the South African
Chateau claret I had with it that made the experience memorable.
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"Zidane will have a large villa and a swimming pool
with a gardener thrown in " RTE
Web site http://www.scroll.demon.co.uk/spaver.htm
South African travelogue http://www.scroll.demon.co.uk/za.htm
JohnM
wa...@africaonline.co.sz> writes
>
>JohnM <jo...@scroll.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>
>> You know I've been there then ;-)
>
>Yip. It shows.
>
>> You sound cool.
>
>And you sound like a mighty discriminating young man. :-)
>
Well, I'm not as young as you think *sigh*
>Moira, the Faerie Godmother
When so we start the Mutual Appreciation Soc ?
--
JohnM - young moi ?
Peter H.M. Brooks
>
> No, I have never worked out the strange name, but the cuisine is
> "international" and the most "spicy" I've had there is the wasabi
> mash which they serve with fish. I *made* them give me the recipe
> before I left for Swaziland. It's *fabulous*.
>
must try to remember where it was.
>
> > > Incidentally Swaziland is not known for its fine cuisine, with
> good
> > > reason, I'm afraid.
>
> > Sorry to hear it.
>
> Not nearly as sorry as I am. :-(
>
> And there's no Woolworths Food Hall. Fortunately I can cook,
> otherwise my impending demise would be imminent.
>
delight, particularly successful challenging cooking. You could do worse
than explore the limits of corned beef hash - you may laugh, but some
who have tried mine have, most reluctantly, confessed it to be good.
Peter H.M. Brooks
Moira de Swardt
Peter H.M. Brooks <pe...@new.co.za> wrote in message
> Well, cooking without Woolies is more of a challenge, but cooking
is a
> delight, particularly successful challenging cooking. You could do
worse
> than explore the limits of corned beef hash - you may laugh, but
some
> who have tried mine have, most reluctantly, confessed it to be
good.
Corned beef is a gourmet delight, providing one purchased "Bully
Beef" not "corned meat", the latter having a list of ingredients
which doesn't appeal.
I learned to enjoy bully beef hash in my youth where I climbed
various mountains in the Cape, and later in the Drakensburg. Corned
beef is a reasonably weight efficient way of carrying palatable
food.
Moira, the Faerie Godmother
Moira de Swardt
> >Incidentally Swaziland is not known for its fine cuisine, with
good
> >reason, I'm afraid.
> LOL I did have a good steak in the Sir Loin restaurant in that
> brothel ensemble I described although I think it was the South
African
> Chateau claret I had with it that made the experience memorable.
Sadly, I'm tea total, so the fine claret is not an option. In my
youth I was not tea total, and frequently disguised cooking errors
by giving my guests plenty to drink.
Moira, the Faerie Godmother
Ferdi Greyling
<pe...@new.co.za> wrote:
<<>Be reasonable! One can't 'live' in Joburg! I was forced to be there
for
>a few days as part of work.>>>
Some people can't because Jo'Burg does not tolerate airs and
pretentions for long.
Those that need to feel special and unique due to who they are or
where they live does not thrive here.
Peter H.M. Brooks
Peter H.M. Brooks
Ferdi Greyling <ferdeina...@iconNOSPAN.coNOSPAM.za> wrote in
message news:3b7a97c4....@news.is.co.za...
>
>
> Some people can't because Jo'Burg does not tolerate airs and
> pretentions for long.
>
with contact lenses will know. As for pretentions, well, as far as I can
see the place depends on them rather than tolerating them!
>
> Those that need to feel special and unique due to who they are or
>
That would be 'do not thrive' - it appears that those who know their
singulars from their plurals don't thrive much up there either.
Ferdi Greyling
He, he.. You just proved my point.
Ferdi Greyling
<pe...@new.co.za> wrote:
<<They certainly tolerate quite substantial 'airs' - as I am sure
anybody
>with contact lenses will know.>>
...er... which city has the worst air polution in SA?
(Cape Town)
Moira de Swardt
message
> > I learned to enjoy bully beef hash in my youth where I climbed
> > various mountains in the Cape, and later in the Drakensburg.
Corned
> > beef is a reasonably weight efficient way of carrying palatable
> > food.
> Indeed. Apparently not many people know that, though.
It never ceases to amaze me what sludge people eat every day in the
name of "home cooking". I'm currently doing some early stages of a
mating ritual with a local who *admits* that he'd happily eat
macaroni and cheese on a Monday, cottage pie on a Tuesday etc.! He
seems rather bewildered by the fact that there is such a variety of
choice in my home.
Moira, the Faerie Godmother
sabsy
"Ferdi Greyling" <ferdeina...@iconNOSPAN.coNOSPAM.za> wrote in message
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A friend of ours is up from Cape Town. He had a chat with the guy who very
occassionally does our garden.
He asked him if he ever wanted to go to Cape Town.
His response was "No way, Cape Town is too violent"
JohnM
<sa...@deletethis.pmail.net> writes
BTW sabsy have all the problems been sorted out regards you and the
other posters ? I remember a small fracas - or several fracases, if that
the plural be - when I was last here ?
--
JohnM - still can't find that Ravan books website
Peter H.M. Brooks
sabsy <sa...@deletethis.pmail.net> wrote in message
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> >
> A friend of ours is up from Cape Town. He had a chat with the guy who
very
> occassionally does our garden.
> He asked him if he ever wanted to go to Cape Town.
> His response was "No way, Cape Town is too violent"
>
released on the SAPS web-site?
It appears that the murder rate (and attempted murder rate, and robbery
rate and....) is around 24 per 100000 in the Western Cape (far too high)
but 35 in Gauteng - similar differences for the other figures.
Of course, given some of the views that appear to be supported by the
Government it may well be that 35 is officially less than 24.
Peter H.M. Brooks
cheese from time to time - particularly if it is a good cheese sauce.
I even make fish pie from time to time that goes well with bottled
tomato ketchup - I have found that using Thai fish sauce and wasabi
makes it almost impossible to avoid having a second helping.
Mind you, I take your point, if that was all there was life would be
quite tedious.