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JB3

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May 18, 2002, 12:57:25 PM5/18/02
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This is a list of Nigerians. Each one wants to give you US$ 3-6
million if you will just let them run about $30 million through your
bank account.

If you write them they'll be happy to correspond with you and explain
how they want to help you if you help them.

The way the scam works is that at some point they'll explain they need
you to send them $1000 or something to bribe someone or register
something to enable them to process something to free up the $30
million so they can put it in your account. When you send them the
money for sure there will be another reason they need you to send more
money.

They actually succeed in suckering some people into this. What can be
done? Suprisingly, the authorities can't really do much about this.

You can write scammer and tell them what you think about them. You can
write and send them some long idiot messages to confuse them and keep
them busy trying to figure out what you're saying. You can subscribe
them to everything under the sun. You can scam the scammer. Forward
your junk mail. Etc. If we can keep them busy and confused we'll be
doing a public service.

Your imagination is your limit. Have fun!

abba_ab...@yahoo.com, divin...@yahoo.com, pmbom...@yahoo.com,
mohamme...@lawyer.com, mike...@yahoo.com,
sander...@yahoo.com, chrisW...@hyperia.net,
chris_...@altec.com.cn, yo_m...@hotvoice.com,
kanayoda...@yahoo.com, dago...@yahoo.com,
amanze_...@yahoo.com, aminu_...@yahoo.com,
willia...@mail.com, richar...@yahoo.com, rayet...@yahoo.com,
akpan...@yahoo.com, hadisa...@africamail.com,
sank...@hotmail.com, ma_...@37.com, robertwil...@yahoo.co.uk,
stanley_o...@yahoo.co.uk

beefeater

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May 18, 2002, 3:29:03 PM5/18/02
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I got a letter from a nigerian with a similar "offer" a couple of years
back. I wonder where he bought my address.. My opinion is that if anyone is
stupid enough to send these guys their money, they deserve to loose them.

beefeater

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deacon b.

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May 18, 2002, 8:53:29 PM5/18/02
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On Sat, 18 May 2002 21:29:03 +0200, "beefeater" <beefe...@hotmail.com> posted
a message that said, at least in part:

>I got a letter from a nigerian with a similar "offer" a couple of years
>back. I wonder where he bought my address.. My opinion is that if anyone is
>stupid enough to send these guys their money, they deserve to loose them.

Is there a *proven* relationship between top-posting and an inability to
distinguish between "lose" and "loose"?

deke

--
"You know, I think the Grateful Dead is, like, one dumb guy instead of five, you know...dumb guys."
~ Jerry Garcia

Moira de Swardt

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May 19, 2002, 1:36:16 AM5/19/02
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deacon b. <deke...@BLOCK.generous.net> wrote in message

> On Sat, 18 May 2002 21:29:03 +0200, "beefeater"
<beefe...@hotmail.com> posted

> >I got a letter from a nigerian with a similar "offer" a couple of


years
> >back. I wonder where he bought my address.. My opinion is that if
anyone is
> >stupid enough to send these guys their money, they deserve to
loose them.

> Is there a *proven* relationship between top-posting and an
inability to
> distinguish between "lose" and "loose"?

Intersecting sets.

Moira, the Faerie Godmother


Peter H.M. Brooks

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May 19, 2002, 10:20:11 AM5/19/02
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"Moira de Swardt" <moira.d...@global.co.za> wrote in message

>
> > Is there a *proven* relationship between top-posting and an
> inability to
> > distinguish between "lose" and "loose"?
>
> Intersecting sets.
>
A remarkably large intersection too.


--
Spes Bona, obsecro, subventa mihi, exime ex hoc miseram metu - Plautus


Steve Hayes

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May 19, 2002, 1:50:32 PM5/19/02
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Simon Slavin

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May 19, 2002, 10:37:01 PM5/19/02
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In article <783d104e.02051...@posting.google.com>,
jeffrey...@yahoo.com (JB3) wrote:

> [snip]

Just a quick heads-up that this was cross-posted to

misc.survivalism,
soc.culture.south-africa,
alt.folklore.urban

If you post a follow-up please trim your 'Newsgroups' header to
just those groups where your post is relevent. Thanks for your
help.

Simon.
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No junk email please. | Blair's "war on terrorism" is: how will they
| know when they've won it ? -- Terry Jones
THE FRENCH WAS THERE

Moira de Swardt

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May 20, 2002, 3:52:32 AM5/20/02
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Peter H.M. Brooks <pe...@new.co.za> wrote in message

> "Moira de Swardt" <moira.d...@global.co.za> wrote in message
> > deacon b. <deke...@BLOCK.generous.net> wrote in message

> > > Is there a *proven* relationship between top-posting and an
> > inability to
> > > distinguish between "lose" and "loose"?

> > Intersecting sets.

> A remarkably large intersection too.

Welcome back. I thought we'd lost you.

Moira, the Faerie Godmother


Peter H.M. Brooks

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May 20, 2002, 3:39:03 PM5/20/02
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"Moira de Swardt" <moira.d...@global.co.za> wrote in message news:<3ce90487$0$18...@hades.is.co.za>...
Thank you! No, I'm not lost, I have been busy, and the excessive
cross-posting (in both senses of the word) a few months back did
rather put me off. It seems to have quieted down a bit now, despite
fun loving Nigerians.

I see you are back from Swaziland - I hope that it was a useful
experience.

Peter

rht...@yahoo.com

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May 20, 2002, 5:14:43 PM5/20/02
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On 20 May 2002 12:39:03 -0700, pe...@psyche.demon.co.uk (Peter H.M.
Brooks) wrote:

>> Welcome back. I thought we'd lost you.
>>
>Thank you! No, I'm not lost, I have been busy, and the excessive
>cross-posting (in both senses of the word) a few months back did
>rather put me off.

The world is irony to the core. You just cross-posted this to:

misc.survivalism
soc.culture.south-africa
alt.folklore.urban

I am sure you didn't mean that. Etc.

-- RT

Steve Hayes

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May 20, 2002, 8:26:01 PM5/20/02
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On Sun, 19 May 2002 00:53:29 GMT, deacon b. <deke...@BLOCK.generous.net>
wrote:

>On Sat, 18 May 2002 21:29:03 +0200, "beefeater" <beefe...@hotmail.com> posted
>a message that said, at least in part:
>
>>I got a letter from a nigerian with a similar "offer" a couple of years
>>back. I wonder where he bought my address.. My opinion is that if anyone is
>>stupid enough to send these guys their money, they deserve to loose them.
>
>Is there a *proven* relationship between top-posting and an inability to
>distinguish between "lose" and "loose"?

You could waist alot of thyme discussing that.


Steve Hayes
http://www.suite101.com/myhome.cfm/methodius

Bob Ward

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May 20, 2002, 9:32:51 PM5/20/02
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On Tue, 21 May 2002 00:26:01 GMT, haye...@yahoo.com (Steve Hayes)
wrote:

>-:On Sun, 19 May 2002 00:53:29 GMT, deacon b. <deke...@BLOCK.generous.net>
>-:wrote:
>-:
>-:>On Sat, 18 May 2002 21:29:03 +0200, "beefeater" <beefe...@hotmail.com> posted
>-:>a message that said, at least in part:
>-:>
>-:>>I got a letter from a nigerian with a similar "offer" a couple of years
>-:>>back. I wonder where he bought my address.. My opinion is that if anyone is
>-:>>stupid enough to send these guys their money, they deserve to loose them.
>-:>
>-:>Is there a *proven* relationship between top-posting and an inability to
>-:>distinguish between "lose" and "loose"?
>-:
>-:You could waist alot of thyme discussing that.
>-:
>-:


Their was no reason for you too say that.


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Moira de Swardt

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May 21, 2002, 1:12:47 AM5/21/02
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Peter H.M. Brooks <pe...@psyche.demon.co.uk> wrote in message

> I see you are back from Swaziland - I hope that it was a useful
> experience.

No, it was a disaster. I'm currently unemployed so if anyone knows
of any work going in the secretarial, proof-reading, general
literacy line... Preferably Johannesburg.

Moira, the Faerie Godmother


Peter H.M. Brooks

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May 21, 2002, 10:01:26 AM5/21/02
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rht...@yahoo.com wrote in message news:<2epieuo6k1ad4ltqu...@4ax.com>...
Three groups is hardly 'excessive cross-posting' in the multiple sense
of the world and certainly my comments weren't cross either!

Peter

Peter H.M. Brooks

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May 21, 2002, 11:05:53 AM5/21/02
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"Moira de Swardt" <moira.d...@global.co.za> wrote in message news:<3cea1b67$0$18...@hades.is.co.za>...
I'm sorry to hear it! Disasters can be useful in the long run, when
looked back on from a safe distance with plenty of added nostalgia and
hindsight.

Why not write a novel (or at least a short story) whilst waiting for a
job that pays more quickly?

Peter

Moira de Swardt

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May 21, 2002, 1:23:40 PM5/21/02
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Peter H.M. Brooks <pe...@psyche.demon.co.uk> wrote in message

> Why not write a novel (or at least a short story) whilst waiting


for a
> job that pays more quickly?

I have written a short story. Now I'm looking for someone who wants
to buy it.

Moira, the Faerie Godmother


Steve Hayes

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May 21, 2002, 1:35:27 PM5/21/02
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On Mon, 20 May 2002 03:37:01 +0100, sla...@hearsay.demon.co.uk@localhost
(Simon Slavin) wrote:

>In article <783d104e.02051...@posting.google.com>,
>jeffrey...@yahoo.com (JB3) wrote:
>
>> [snip]
>
>Just a quick heads-up that this was cross-posted to
>
>misc.survivalism,
>soc.culture.south-africa,
>alt.folklore.urban
>
>If you post a follow-up please trim your 'Newsgroups' header to
>just those groups where your post is relevent. Thanks for your
>help.

Dunno about misc.survivalism, but the contents of such posts are certainly
legendary, and probably urban. And a number of South Africans with more greed
than sense have been suckers for the scam.


Steve Hayes
http://www.suite101.com/myhome.cfm/methodius

Peter H.M. Brooks

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May 31, 2002, 4:39:05 PM5/31/02
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"Moira de Swardt" <moira.d...@global.co.za> wrote in message news:<3cea8116$0$18...@hades.is.co.za>...

> Peter H.M. Brooks <pe...@psyche.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>
> > Why not write a novel (or at least a short story) whilst waiting
> for a
> > job that pays more quickly?
>
> I have written a short story. Now I'm looking for someone who wants
> to buy it.
>
If it's good enough, try the New Yorker. While looking you could write some more.

Short stories can be more difficult to write well than novels.

--
"Sorry this is such a long letter, but I didn't have time to write a short one."
Kipling

Moira de Swardt

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May 31, 2002, 5:24:45 PM5/31/02
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Peter H.M. Brooks <pe...@psyche.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> "Moira de Swardt" <moira.d...@global.co.za> wrote in message
> > Peter H.M. Brooks <pe...@psyche.demon.co.uk> wrote in message

> > > Why not write a novel (or at least a short story) whilst
waiting
> > for a
> > > job that pays more quickly?

> > I have written a short story. Now I'm looking for someone who
wants
> > to buy it.

> If it's good enough, try the New Yorker. While looking you could
write some more.
> Short stories can be more difficult to write well than novels.

Actually, I've read it "cold" and I don't like it. I did a
journalism course a while back, and I'm considering sending it to
one of the lecturers for comment.

While I'm chatting to you about artistic endeavours, I would be
interested doing some form of graphic arts class in the future.
There seem to be a variety to choose from. Every year I like to
tackle a new project, or renew an old interest in something or
other. I've learned something about music that way, a little about
theatre, a tiny bit about opera which is a combination of the first
two, and some crafts. And I've had a lot of fun.

Moira, the Faerie Godmother


Del J.

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Jun 1, 2002, 10:41:18 AM6/1/02
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"Moira de Swardt" <moira.d...@global.co.za> wrote in message
news:3cf89bd0$0$18...@hades.is.co.za...

>
> Peter H.M. Brooks <pe...@psyche.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> > "Moira de Swardt" <moira.d...@global.co.za> wrote in message
> > > Peter H.M. Brooks <pe...@psyche.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>
> > > > Why not write a novel (or at least a short story) whilst
> waiting
> > > for a
> > > > job that pays more quickly?
>
> > > I have written a short story. Now I'm looking for someone who
> wants
> > > to buy it.
>
> > If it's good enough, try the New Yorker. While looking you could
> write some more.
> > Short stories can be more difficult to write well than novels.
>
> Actually, I've read it "cold" and I don't like it. I did a
> journalism course a while back, and I'm considering sending it to
> one of the lecturers for comment.

How about writting some 'improved' scenarios for the 'Nigerians'. I hear
that one can make quite a bit of money once the fish are hooked. :)

Moira de Swardt

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Jun 1, 2002, 6:14:51 PM6/1/02
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Del J. <de...@NoSPAM.bbv.net> wrote in message

> "Moira de Swardt" <moira.d...@global.co.za> wrote in message

> > Actually, I've read it "cold" and I don't like it. I did a


> > journalism course a while back, and I'm considering sending it
to
> > one of the lecturers for comment.

> How about writting some 'improved' scenarios for the 'Nigerians'.
I hear
> that one can make quite a bit of money once the fish are hooked.
:)

Nah!!!! As i kan spel an puntueight this wood make the skam to
implawsible. ALLSO MY KAPS BUTON FUNKTINS MOST WOENDERFUL
EFECTIVELY.

Furthermore, I don't want to have time to hone my writing skills
from a prison cell.

Moira, the Faerie Godmother


Peter H.M. Brooks

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Jun 2, 2002, 9:07:38 AM6/2/02
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"Moira de Swardt" <moira.d...@global.co.za> wrote in message news:<3cf89bd0$0$18...@hades.is.co.za>...

>
>
> > If it's good enough, try the New Yorker. While looking you could
> write some more.
> > Short stories can be more difficult to write well than novels.
>
> Actually, I've read it "cold" and I don't like it. I did a
> journalism course a while back, and I'm considering sending it to
> one of the lecturers for comment.
>
Pity, that. It is unfortunate that many things are less brilliant a
day or so later! That is one thing I like about the art of cooking -
the meal isn't around later and only the good memory of the time
remains.

>
> While I'm chatting to you about artistic endeavours, I would be
> interested doing some form of graphic arts class in the future.
> There seem to be a variety to choose from. Every year I like to
> tackle a new project, or renew an old interest in something or
> other. I've learned something about music that way, a little about
> theatre, a tiny bit about opera which is a combination of the first
> two, and some crafts. And I've had a lot of fun.
>
I think that that is an excellent idea. Keeping the mind supple by
learning new things and keeping the aesthetic sense sharp by the same
means is one of the few ways of keeping 'young'.

I saw a book on butchery in the library and was tempted for a moment,
but decided to leave that for future consideration.

I think that I would find graphic arts a bit frustrating, if, by that,
you mean the very precise air-brushlike finished stuff. As with
cooking, where I prefer a good curry or soup to trays of delicately
shaped sweetmeats, I prefer a less constrained approach.

Since this appears to have nothing to do with Nigerians I have changed
the subject.

--
No mean woman can cook, or entertain, well, for it calls for a light
hand, a generous spirit, and large heart. - Paul Gauguin

Moira de Swardt

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Jun 2, 2002, 2:04:11 PM6/2/02
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Peter H.M. Brooks <pe...@psyche.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> "Moira de Swardt" <moira.d...@global.co.za> wrote in message

> > Actually, I've read it "cold" and I don't like it. I did a


> > journalism course a while back, and I'm considering sending it
to
> > one of the lecturers for comment.

> Pity, that. It is unfortunate that many things are less brilliant
a
> day or so later! That is one thing I like about the art of
cooking -
> the meal isn't around later and only the good memory of the time
> remains.

And leftovers so often improve as the main ingredients become
steeped in the spices.

> > While I'm chatting to you about artistic endeavours, I would be
> > interested doing some form of graphic arts class in the future.
> > There seem to be a variety to choose from. Every year I like to
> > tackle a new project, or renew an old interest in something or
> > other. I've learned something about music that way, a little
about
> > theatre, a tiny bit about opera which is a combination of the
first
> > two, and some crafts. And I've had a lot of fun.

> I think that that is an excellent idea. Keeping the mind supple by
> learning new things and keeping the aesthetic sense sharp by the
same
> means is one of the few ways of keeping 'young'.

> I saw a book on butchery in the library and was tempted for a
moment,
> but decided to leave that for future consideration.

My three library books for this week are flower arranging,
facilitation (the best of the three) and make-up - new job, new
look. At The Salvation Army I didn't wear make-up and my techniques
are dated and my ideas even more so.

> I think that I would find graphic arts a bit frustrating, if, by
that,
> you mean the very precise air-brushlike finished stuff. As with
> cooking, where I prefer a good curry or soup to trays of
delicately
> shaped sweetmeats, I prefer a less constrained approach.

One year I tackled a Chinese cookery project. I found it rewarding.
I've never done much baking but my sister and I often look at petit
fours before deciding that there really isn't enough time in one
lifetime for anything that fiddly.

> Since this appears to have nothing to do with Nigerians I have
changed
> the subject.

Sensible.

> No mean woman can cook, or entertain, well, for it calls for a
light
> hand, a generous spirit, and large heart. - Paul Gauguin

This is very profound, and absolutely true.

Moira, the Faerie Godmother


Peter H.M. Brooks

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Jun 3, 2002, 1:49:06 PM6/3/02
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"Moira de Swardt" <moira.d...@global.co.za> wrote in
>
> Peter H.M. Brooks <pe...@psyche.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> > "Moira de Swardt" <moira.d...@global.co.za> wrote in message
>
> > > Actually, I've read it "cold" and I don't like it. I did a
> > > journalism course a while back, and I'm considering sending it
> to
> > > one of the lecturers for comment.
>
> > Pity, that. It is unfortunate that many things are less brilliant
> a
> > day or so later! That is one thing I like about the art of
> cooking -
> > the meal isn't around later and only the good memory of the time
> > remains.
>
> And leftovers so often improve as the main ingredients become
> steeped in the spices.
>
Curries and stews in particular are usually better on the third day.

>
> > > While I'm chatting to you about artistic endeavours, I would be
> > > interested doing some form of graphic arts class in the future.
> > > There seem to be a variety to choose from. Every year I like to
> > > tackle a new project, or renew an old interest in something or
> > > other. I've learned something about music that way, a little
> about
> > > theatre, a tiny bit about opera which is a combination of the
> first
> > > two, and some crafts. And I've had a lot of fun.
>
> > I think that that is an excellent idea. Keeping the mind supple by
> > learning new things and keeping the aesthetic sense sharp by the
> same
> > means is one of the few ways of keeping 'young'.
>
> > I saw a book on butchery in the library and was tempted for a
> moment,
> > but decided to leave that for future consideration.
>
> My three library books for this week are flower arranging,
> facilitation (the best of the three) and make-up - new job, new
> look. At The Salvation Army I didn't wear make-up and my techniques
> are dated and my ideas even more so.
>
I was at a masked ball this last weekend so make-up might have been an
idea - I managed with the mask I got from the carnival in Venice a few years
back though.

>
> > I think that I would find graphic arts a bit frustrating, if, by
> that,
> > you mean the very precise air-brushlike finished stuff. As with
> > cooking, where I prefer a good curry or soup to trays of
> delicately
> > shaped sweetmeats, I prefer a less constrained approach.
>
> One year I tackled a Chinese cookery project. I found it rewarding.
> I've never done much baking but my sister and I often look at petit
> fours before deciding that there really isn't enough time in one
> lifetime for anything that fiddly.
>
As somebody put it, life is too short to stuff a mushroom.

>
> > No mean woman can cook, or entertain, well, for it calls for a
> light
> > hand, a generous spirit, and large heart. - Paul Gauguin
>
> This is very profound, and absolutely true.
>
Gauguin was quite a man for the ladies as well. I have enjoyed seeing his
paintings very much as well, though his earlier ones are a bit flat.


--
Fustbariclation: a neologism that does not describe a new idea, thing,
design or other novelty in a useful manner that replicates a phrase. Neither
does it provide an interesting twist, a novel way of seeing something well
known, nor is it amusing.


Moira de Swardt

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Jun 4, 2002, 11:56:10 AM6/4/02
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Peter H.M. Brooks <pe...@new.co.za> wrote in message

> "Moira de Swardt" <moira.d...@global.co.za> wrote in

> > And leftovers so often improve as the main ingredients become
> > steeped in the spices.

> Curries and stews in particular are usually better on the third
day.

How on earth does one make enough to last three days?

> > My three library books for this week are flower arranging,
> > facilitation (the best of the three) and make-up - new job, new
> > look. At The Salvation Army I didn't wear make-up and my
techniques
> > are dated and my ideas even more so.

> I was at a masked ball this last weekend so make-up might have
been an
> idea - I managed with the mask I got from the carnival in Venice a
few years
> back though.

Masked ball? Sounds like great fun. We had a masked "ball" at one
of our social functions a few years ago. I borrowed a fabulous
feathered frilly mask from a friend who works in a theatre. I had
to spend all evening defending it!

On 22 June our chuch social is a Mid Winter Ball - or at least a
dinner. It was supposed to be Christmas in June, but someone vetoed
it on the grounds that it was pagan. We get to wear our most
outrageous winter woolies. I'm looking for socks with individual
toes, multi-coloured. I've seen a knitted cap with three pompoms,
almost court jester style, and I'm considering that, with bells on,
no less! A plaid scarf that's long past its "best before" date will
certain add a certain something, but not necessarily anything which
will be applauded by fashion gurus. Unfortunately for times like
these I tend towards the very conservative - black gloves, black
scarf, black wool knitted cap. If it gets cold I wear black. Black
evening wear for winter - for summer and for inbetween. Black
velvet jacket. Could hardly be described as outrageous. Dull
perhaps, outrageous, never. I'll have to buy, or borrow.

Moira, the Faerie Godmother


Peter H.M. Brooks

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Jun 5, 2002, 12:46:38 AM6/5/02
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"Moira de Swardt" <moira.d...@global.co.za> wrote in message

>
> Peter H.M. Brooks <pe...@new.co.za> wrote in message
> > "Moira de Swardt" <moira.d...@global.co.za> wrote in
>
> > > And leftovers so often improve as the main ingredients become
> > > steeped in the spices.
>
> > Curries and stews in particular are usually better on the third
> day.
>
> How on earth does one make enough to last three days?
>
You need a very large casserole dish. I am pleased to have an excellent one.
It is normally only a small amount that survives to the third day though!

>
> > > My three library books for this week are flower arranging,
> > > facilitation (the best of the three) and make-up - new job, new
> > > look. At The Salvation Army I didn't wear make-up and my
> techniques
> > > are dated and my ideas even more so.
>
> > I was at a masked ball this last weekend so make-up might have
> been an
> > idea - I managed with the mask I got from the carnival in Venice a
> few years
> > back though.
>
> Masked ball? Sounds like great fun. We had a masked "ball" at one
> of our social functions a few years ago. I borrowed a fabulous
> feathered frilly mask from a friend who works in a theatre. I had
> to spend all evening defending it!
>
I can well believe it. This one was a actually arranged by Obz Cafe and was
rather more of a masked party.

>
> On 22 June our chuch social is a Mid Winter Ball - or at least a
> dinner. It was supposed to be Christmas in June, but someone vetoed
> it on the grounds that it was pagan.
>
That Christmas is pagan is one of the few nice things about it. If you had
had it on the 21st June you could have had a Winter Solstice Ball.

>
> We get to wear our most
> outrageous winter woolies. I'm looking for socks with individual
> toes, multi-coloured. I've seen a knitted cap with three pompoms,
> almost court jester style, and I'm considering that, with bells on,
> no less! A plaid scarf that's long past its "best before" date will
> certain add a certain something, but not necessarily anything which
> will be applauded by fashion gurus. Unfortunately for times like
> these I tend towards the very conservative - black gloves, black
> scarf, black wool knitted cap. If it gets cold I wear black. Black
> evening wear for winter - for summer and for inbetween. Black
> velvet jacket. Could hardly be described as outrageous. Dull
> perhaps, outrageous, never. I'll have to buy, or borrow.
>
I remember seeing the variagated socks years ago - I think you'll need to
find a knitter for that.

Black is quite a useful colour for clothes - you are always prepared for a
funeral anyway.

Moira de Swardt

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Peter H.M. Brooks <pe...@new.co.za> wrote in message

> I can well believe it. This one was a actually arranged by Obz


Cafe and was
> rather more of a masked party.

As you probably know I always visit Obz Cafe when I'm in Cape Town.
Proximity to a good friend's home.

> That Christmas is pagan is one of the few nice things about it. If
you had
> had it on the 21st June you could have had a Winter Solstice Ball.

Fridays are not good days for social gatherings that involve work
and dressing up.

> I remember seeing the variagated socks years ago - I think you'll
need to
> find a knitter for that.

My sister still has a pair I can borrow.

> Black is quite a useful colour for clothes - you are always
prepared for a
> funeral anyway.

Many people don't wear black to funerals anymore. Sensible really,
if black doesn't suit them.

Moira, the Faerie Godmother


Peter H.M. Brooks

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"Moira de Swardt" <moira.d...@global.co.za> wrote in message
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>
> Peter H.M. Brooks <pe...@new.co.za> wrote in message
>
> > I can well believe it. This one was a actually arranged by Obz
> Cafe and was
> > rather more of a masked party.
>
> As you probably know I always visit Obz Cafe when I'm in Cape Town.
> Proximity to a good friend's home.
>
Not a bad home either, in this case.

>
> > That Christmas is pagan is one of the few nice things about it. If
> you had
> > had it on the 21st June you could have had a Winter Solstice Ball.
>
> Fridays are not good days for social gatherings that involve work
> and dressing up.
>
I would have thought them ideal, but maybe we have different Fridays.

>
> > I remember seeing the variagated socks years ago - I think you'll
> need to
> > find a knitter for that.
>
> My sister still has a pair I can borrow.
>
They might need a wash.

>
> > Black is quite a useful colour for clothes - you are always
> prepared for a
> > funeral anyway.
>
> Many people don't wear black to funerals anymore. Sensible really,
> if black doesn't suit them.
>
I was surprised that my father, who I have always considered traditional,
felt that a black tie ( not a bow tie, a real black tie) was ott for my
brother's funeral. So things have indeed changed.

Moira de Swardt

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Peter H.M. Brooks <pe...@new.co.za> wrote in message
> "Moira de Swardt" <moira.d...@global.co.za> wrote in message
> > Peter H.M. Brooks <pe...@new.co.za> wrote in message

> > > I can well believe it. This one was a actually arranged by Obz
> > Cafe and was
> > > rather more of a masked party.

> > As you probably know I always visit Obz Cafe when I'm in Cape
Town.
> > Proximity to a good friend's home.

> Not a bad home either, in this case.

I promise I'll visit when next in Cape Town if at all possible.
This year is probably out of the question. I have been to Cape Town
every year for the last four or five years. This year I was in
Zimbabwe, Washington (via London) and will be going to Port
Elizabeth in July. Financially I am now unable to afford any more
holidays, even if I did have leave, which I haven't - all leave has
to be taken unpaid.

> > > That Christmas is pagan is one of the few nice things about
it. If
> > you had
> > > had it on the 21st June you could have had a Winter Solstice
Ball.

> > Fridays are not good days for social gatherings that involve
work
> > and dressing up.

> I would have thought them ideal, but maybe we have different
Fridays.

Most people have to work until 17h00 and then travel home and only
then prepare to go out. This puts some pressure on them to be ready
for 19h00 - I always manage just fine, but then I'm a very dedicated
socialite. :-) As to the helping to set things up - I avoid that
any day of the week if I can - which puts pressure on those who have
to organise the event.

> > > I remember seeing the variagated socks years ago - I think
you'll
> > need to
> > > find a knitter for that.

> > My sister still has a pair I can borrow.

> They might need a wash.

Her domestic treasure washes *everything* that is left out - even if
it was only taken out to look at!

> > > Black is quite a useful colour for clothes - you are always
> > prepared for a
> > > funeral anyway.

> > Many people don't wear black to funerals anymore. Sensible
really,
> > if black doesn't suit them.

> I was surprised that my father, who I have always considered
traditional,
> felt that a black tie ( not a bow tie, a real black tie) was ott
for my
> brother's funeral. So things have indeed changed.

I saw that Hansie's brother wore an ordinary sports jacket -
surprising for the conservative Afrikaans community. Things have
*obviously* changed even more than I had expected. The Jewish
community have never had a traditional black concept for funerals
and the world is moving towards more sensible ideas for dealing with
death as always practiced by the Jewish community. I hope the black
community follows soon - Jewish funerals are relatively cheap.

Moira, the Faerie Godmother

Peter H.M. Brooks

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"Moira de Swardt" <moira.d...@global.co.za> wrote in message > > >
Fridays are not good days for social gatherings that involve
> work
> > > and dressing up.
>
> > I would have thought them ideal, but maybe we have different
> Fridays.
>
> Most people have to work until 17h00 and then travel home and only
> then prepare to go out. This puts some pressure on them to be ready
> for 19h00 - I always manage just fine, but then I'm a very dedicated
> socialite. :-) As to the helping to set things up - I avoid that
> any day of the week if I can - which puts pressure on those who have
> to organise the event.
>
From the size of the traffic jams out of Cape Town from about 15:00 onwards
(not to mention the fairly large efflux around lunch time), I suspect that
'most people' working until 17:00 doesn't apply to most Capetonians.

>
> > I was surprised that my father, who I have always considered
> traditional,
> > felt that a black tie ( not a bow tie, a real black tie) was ott
> for my
> > brother's funeral. So things have indeed changed.
>
> I saw that Hansie's brother wore an ordinary sports jacket -
> surprising for the conservative Afrikaans community. Things have
> *obviously* changed even more than I had expected. The Jewish
> community have never had a traditional black concept for funerals
> and the world is moving towards more sensible ideas for dealing with
> death as always practiced by the Jewish community. I hope the black
> community follows soon - Jewish funerals are relatively cheap.
>
Sadly the expensive funerals seem to be had by those who can least afford
them. I had both my brother and mother cremated in the cheapest coffins the
undertaker would sell me - he refused to consider cardboard ones. I think
the coffin cost about R200. On the shelves in the undertaker's parlour were
the most horrible, lurid coffins costing thousands of rand - some people
must buy them. I personally would like to either provide entertainment to
medical students or be left out to be eaten as the parsees do - both free
disposal methods.

Incidentally, it has always interested me that, for the parsees, white is
the colour of death.

Moira de Swardt

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Peter H.M. Brooks <pe...@new.co.za> wrote in message
> "Moira de Swardt" <moira.d...@global.co.za> wrote in message >
> >

> > Most people have to work until 17h00 and then travel home and


only
> > then prepare to go out. This puts some pressure on them to be
ready
> > for 19h00 - I always manage just fine, but then I'm a very
dedicated
> > socialite. :-) As to the helping to set things up - I avoid
that
> > any day of the week if I can - which puts pressure on those who
have
> > to organise the event.

> From the size of the traffic jams out of Cape Town from about
15:00 onwards
> (not to mention the fairly large efflux around lunch time), I
suspect that
> 'most people' working until 17:00 doesn't apply to most
Capetonians.

We Vaalies aren't actually sure that Capetonians work. :-)

Medical students do best with very thin bodies, so mine wouldn't be
highly desirable, although I have all my bits and bobs - even a
tonsil which has grown back - the less adipose tissue to cut
through, the better. However, I think they have enough bodies.
Leaving bodies out to be eaten wouldn't work in cities and built up
areas. It takes several days for one body to be picked clean
enough to be hygienically disposed of even under fairly ideal
circumstances.

> Incidentally, it has always interested me that, for the parsees,
white is
> the colour of death.

All oriental cultures that I can think of use white as a death
colour. Most use red for weddings and other auspicious occasions.
I think I remember reading that it was Josephine Bonaparte who set
the trend for white dresses for weddings, proving enough wealth for
a dress which would have no other purpose but as a wear once wedding
outfit. It actually makes no sense to waste money on lavish wedding
wear (parties/receptions are a different thing altogether), however
I did have a long white dress when I married and I suppose I would
be surprised if my nieces chose something significantly different -
away from the whites and off-whites. Not shocked, just surprised.
I have noticed a trend away from whites and off-whites in older
brides and definitely in second (or subsequent) marriages. Makes
sense to wear colours and styles which actually suit one.

Talking of colours, I see orange is making a come back in fashion
colours. Ugh! Doesn't suit me at all and reminds me so much of the
seventies. I had an orange kitchen when I first set up home. One
or two orange items *refused* to die/wear out/break and I finally
threw them out when I moved from Swaziland back here. No wonder
it's made a come back!

Moira, the Faerie Godmother


Peter H.M. Brooks

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"Moira de Swardt" <moira.d...@global.co.za> wrote in message news:<3d00c60d$0$18...@hades.is.co.za>...

> Peter H.M. Brooks <pe...@new.co.za> wrote in message
> > "Moira de Swardt" <moira.d...@global.co.za> wrote in message >
> > >

>

> > From the size of the traffic jams out of Cape Town from about
> 15:00 onwards
> > (not to mention the fairly large efflux around lunch time), I
> suspect that
> > 'most people' working until 17:00 doesn't apply to most
> Capetonians.
>
> We Vaalies aren't actually sure that Capetonians work. :-)
>

Yes, I have encountered this perception.

>
> > Sadly the expensive funerals seem to be had by those who can least
> afford
> > them. I had both my brother and mother cremated in the cheapest
> coffins the
> > undertaker would sell me - he refused to consider cardboard ones.
> I think
> > the coffin cost about R200. On the shelves in the undertaker's
> parlour were
> > the most horrible, lurid coffins costing thousands of rand - some
> people
> > must buy them. I personally would like to either provide
> entertainment to
> > medical students or be left out to be eaten as the parsees do -
> both free
> > disposal methods.
>
> Medical students do best with very thin bodies, so mine wouldn't be
> highly desirable, although I have all my bits and bobs - even a
> tonsil which has grown back - the less adipose tissue to cut
> through, the better. However, I think they have enough bodies.
> Leaving bodies out to be eaten wouldn't work in cities and built up
> areas. It takes several days for one body to be picked clean
> enough to be hygienically disposed of even under fairly ideal
> circumstances.
>

Maybe the more rotund corpse would be handy for liposuction operatives
to practice on.


>
> > Incidentally, it has always interested me that, for the parsees,
> white is
> > the colour of death.
>
> All oriental cultures that I can think of use white as a death
> colour. Most use red for weddings and other auspicious occasions.
> I think I remember reading that it was Josephine Bonaparte who set
> the trend for white dresses for weddings, proving enough wealth for
> a dress which would have no other purpose but as a wear once wedding
> outfit. It actually makes no sense to waste money on lavish wedding
> wear (parties/receptions are a different thing altogether), however
> I did have a long white dress when I married and I suppose I would
> be surprised if my nieces chose something significantly different -
> away from the whites and off-whites. Not shocked, just surprised.
> I have noticed a trend away from whites and off-whites in older
> brides and definitely in second (or subsequent) marriages. Makes
> sense to wear colours and styles which actually suit one.
>
> Talking of colours, I see orange is making a come back in fashion
> colours. Ugh! Doesn't suit me at all and reminds me so much of the
> seventies. I had an orange kitchen when I first set up home. One
> or two orange items *refused* to die/wear out/break and I finally
> threw them out when I moved from Swaziland back here. No wonder
> it's made a come back!
>

Indeed, orange can be nasty, and, on walls, seems very dated. However
I was given a very good quality orange shirt a while back and have
worn it quite frequently. Now that it has been washed a few times it
has toned down enough for my wife to only make a couple of comments
every time I wear it.

--
If it rhymes with orange it isn't English

Moira de Swardt

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Peter H.M. Brooks <pe...@psyche.demon.co.uk> wrote in message

> "Moira de Swardt" <moira.d...@global.co.za> wrote in message
> > Peter H.M. Brooks <pe...@new.co.za> wrote in message


> > > From the size of the traffic jams out of Cape Town from about
> > 15:00 onwards
> > > (not to mention the fairly large efflux around lunch time), I
> > suspect that
> > > 'most people' working until 17:00 doesn't apply to most
> > Capetonians.

> > We Vaalies aren't actually sure that Capetonians work. :-)

> Yes, I have encountered this perception.

Did I mention that I have lived in Cape Town several times since
leaving school? I have been obliged to earn my living there as
well. The pace is *definitely* slower in Cape Town than in
Johannesburg. Most Capetonians start about an hour later than most
Vaalies and finish about the same time. Not to mention the longer
lunch breaks.

> > Medical students do best with very thin bodies, so mine wouldn't
be
> > highly desirable, although I have all my bits and bobs - even a
> > tonsil which has grown back - the less adipose tissue to cut
> > through, the better. However, I think they have enough bodies.
> > Leaving bodies out to be eaten wouldn't work in cities and built
up
> > areas. It takes several days for one body to be picked clean
> > enough to be hygienically disposed of even under fairly ideal
> > circumstances.

> Maybe the more rotund corpse would be handy for liposuction
operatives
> to practice on.

Liposuction is a specialist procedure. Fortunately students don't
have to deal with this particular aspect of medicine.

> Indeed, orange can be nasty, and, on walls, seems very dated.
However
> I was given a very good quality orange shirt a while back and have
> worn it quite frequently. Now that it has been washed a few times
it
> has toned down enough for my wife to only make a couple of
comments
> every time I wear it.

Please assure me you don't wear white socks unless you're playing
tennis or squash.

> If it rhymes with orange it isn't English

My niece asked me to make a rhyme with the word "orange". She bet
me R5.00 that I couldn't. I took the bet and used the word in the
middle of the sentence - not needing it to rhyme at all. She was
incensed and accused me of cheating. I paid up. <Whining> But I
still don't think I was cheating. She didn't specify the rhyming
word had to be with "orange".

What about "lozenge"? ... Almost?

Moira, the Faerie Godmother


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