Re: Fury of the Far Left - Danger Will Robinson - Implosion Imminent!
Vernon Pugh
wrote:
tedious stuff about US politics copied and pasted from some blog
snipped
Are you gay?
From Limerick?
Need to come out?
Now is your chance!!
http://limerickpride.blogspot.com/
Sophistry Made Simple
"Vernon Pugh" <dazzh...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Sarah Palin heard that the bars were open in Limerick on Good Friday, but
she still couldn't get the wrapper off.
Ray O'Hara
"WhiteWolf! <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>" <ra...@iol.ie> wrote in message
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Obama will lisaten too.
the rightwingnuts have overplayed their obstructionist hand and now we are
pushing back.
these articles you keep posting aren't a triumph for your boys they are the
beginning of the end.
the Repubs by not co-operating when they had the chance are now hoing to be
sgut ot and that which you hate will become the law..
Ray O'Hara
> On Tue, 9 Mar 2010 15:34:28 -0500, "Ray O'Hara"
> <raymon...@hotmail.com>
> asked... And that fiasco on TV... Obama spoke more than all the
> Republicans
> COMBINED! And all a dog and pony show... Nothing came of it...
> Republicans
> were foolish to participate... We already won the debate... We didn't
> need to
> play that game...
>
> Ray
yes they were asked.
they got plenty added to the bill too.
they wanted tort reform, it was added, they wanted to be able to buy across
state lines{so much for their states rights claims} and its in there.
they didn't want a public option its not in there. so spare us the
propaganda, over 100 provisions they wanted were added. and then they voted
100% against it.
what the repblicans want it to just kill the bill.
they had 10 years in which they controlled Congress and 6 with Congress and
the presidency and they did nothing.
they are lying when they say they weren't asked, they are crying that they
don't get to dictate the laws, well they aren't the majority.
Vernon Pugh
wrote:
Ray: just to try to bring this thread back on topic,
here is a nice idea for St. Patrick's Day:
http://www.zazzle.co.uk/have_a_gay_st_patricks_day_tshirt-235097696520257016
Vernon
Caít()
>
> Vernon
Where did they get the "Patty" thing??
Caít()
Vernon Pugh
At a wild guess, it is "Paddy" misheard. The nickname Paddy seems
rare outside Ireland and the UK.
In the UK, it was used to mean Irish for decades (Paddy Ashdown's real
name is not Paddy or Patrick; he was just brought up in Ireland or
something similar). So, when Paddies referred to Paddy's Day in the
US, Merkins misheard it (all being deaf from shooting at each other or
from speaking with such loud voices?).
Vernon Pugh
wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 03:14:39 -0800 (PST), Vernon Pugh <dazzhigg...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On Mar 9, 11:09 pm, "WhiteWolf! <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>" <r...@iol.ie>
> >wrote:
>
> >Ray: just to try to bring this thread back on topic,
> >here is a nice idea for St. Patrick's Day:
>
> >http://www.zazzle.co.uk/
>
>
> Go away you damn troll! You obviously have nothing worthwhile to contribute to
> the conversation...
Actually it is an interesting question and it is an Irish culture
related matter.
Where did the dreadful "Patti" in "Patti's Day" come from?
Charles Ellson
<dazzh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On Mar 10, 1:54�pm, Ca�t() <cathy...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Mar 10, 11:14�am, Vernon Pugh <dazzhigg...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Mar 9, 11:09�pm, "WhiteWolf! <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>" <r...@iol.ie>
>> > wrote:
>>
>> > Ray: just to try to bring this thread back on topic,
>> > here is a nice idea for St. Patrick's Day:
>>
>> >http://www.zazzle.co.uk/have_a_gay_st_patricks_day_tshirt-23509769652...
>>
>> > Vernon
>>
>> Where did they get the "Patty" thing??
>>
>> Ca�t()
>
>At a wild guess, it is "Paddy" misheard. The nickname Paddy seems
>rare outside Ireland and the UK.
>In the UK, it was used to mean Irish for decades (Paddy Ashdown's real
>name is not Paddy or Patrick; he was just brought up in Ireland or
>something similar).
>
Allegedly he acquired the nickname because of his accent while
attending Bedford School.
conwaycaine
So, when Paddies referred to Paddy's Day in the
US, Merkins misheard it (all being deaf from shooting at each other or
from speaking with such loud voices?).
***
Oh the dead silence of an Irish pub on Saturday night.
Quite the contrast to shooting, shouting Merks, isn't it?
WHA??? WHA??????
Sophistry Made Simple
"conwaycaine" <conwa...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Vernon Pugh" <dazzh...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:6bea7df9-3dd5-4e28...@g10g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
>
> So, when Paddies referred to Paddy's Day in the
> US, Merkins misheard it (all being deaf from shooting at each other or
> from speaking with such loud voices?).
>
> ***
>
> Oh the dead silence of an Irish pub on Saturday night.
These days, you're not far wrong, again. They really are quite dead even on
Saturday nights. What with drink-driving laws, no smoking, the price of
drink, the price of taxis if you can get one - why bother when you can stay
at home with your 42" flatscreen home cinema, with your laptop on your knee,
foods of the world delivered to your door, trays of discount store beer and
friends around to smoke what they want where they want?
conwaycaine
"Sophistry Made Simple" <din...@yourplace.com> wrote in message
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Are you saying the ancient and honorable practice of taking the family down
to the local pub for a pint, a bit of music, and some fine craic is dying
out in Ireland?
(Another of me stereotypes shattered)
S Viemeister
> "Sophistry Made Simple"<din...@yourplace.com> wrote in message
>> These days, you're not far wrong, again. They really are quite dead even
>> on Saturday nights. What with drink-driving laws, no smoking, the price of
>> drink, the price of taxis if you can get one - why bother when you can
>> stay at home with your 42" flatscreen home cinema, with your laptop on
>> your knee, foods of the world delivered to your door, trays of discount
>> store beer and friends around to smoke what they want where they want?
>
> Are you saying the ancient and honorable practice of taking the family down
> to the local pub for a pint, a bit of music, and some fine craic is dying
> out in Ireland?
> (Another of me stereotypes shattered)
>
>
Robert Peffers
"S Viemeister" <firs...@lastname.oc.ku> wrote in message
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better walks down where I stay.
However, there are now new houses and building sites springing up between me
and the village and there were roadworks blocking the footpaths. I ventured
up the village while giving the wee dug her evening walk. I was amazed at
the difference. I have never seen the Main Street area so quiet in the
evenings. There were not even youths hanging around corners.
--
Auld Bob.
conwaycaine
"S Viemeister" <firs...@lastname.oc.ku> wrote in message
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That's a shame.
I remember reading that once upon a time in the British Isles, pubs
functioned almost as living rooms for the surrounding community.
conwaycaine
"Robert Peffers" <peff...@btinbternet.com> wrote in message
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TV strikes again.
When I was a kid, everyone had front porches and would sit on them in the
evening while the houses cooled down.
Neighbors would walk by, stop and chat, exchange a bit of gossip, and then
off to the next house.
Now the porch up front has become a patio in the back and nobody knows
anybody.
S Viemeister
> TV strikes again.
> When I was a kid, everyone had front porches and would sit on them in the
> evening while the houses cooled down.
> Neighbors would walk by, stop and chat, exchange a bit of gossip, and then
> off to the next house.
> Now the porch up front has become a patio in the back and nobody knows
> anybody.
>
>
Not just TV - air conditioning.
S Viemeister
> "S Viemeister"<firs...@lastname.oc.ku> wrote>>>> "conwaycaine"<conwa...@bellsouth.net> wrote
>>>>> Oh the dead silence of an Irish pub on Saturday night.n
>>>> These days, you're not far wrong, again. They really are quite dead even
>>>> on Saturday nights. What with drink-driving laws, no smoking, the price
>>>> of
>>>> drink, the price of taxis if you can get one - why bother when you can
>>>> stay at home with your 42" flatscreen home cinema, with your laptop on
>>>> your knee, foods of the world delivered to your door, trays of discount
>>>> store beer and friends around to smoke what they want where they want?
>>>
>>> Are you saying the ancient and honorable practice of taking the family
>>> down
>>> to the local pub for a pint, a bit of music, and some fine craic is dying
>>> out in Ireland?
>>> (Another of me stereotypes shattered)
>> In Scotland, too.
>
> That's a shame.
> I remember reading that once upon a time in the British Isles, pubs
> functioned almost as living rooms for the surrounding community.
>
It was like that for me, in my late teens/early twenties. Much of my
social life centred on pubs - for the conversation and entertainment, as
well as the warmth ( my flat was 'heated' by a fireplace).
Vernon Pugh
wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 07:45:13 -0800 (PST), Vernon Pugh <dazzhigg...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >On Mar 10, 3:03 pm, "WhiteWolf! <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>" <r...@iol.ie>
> >wrote:
> >> On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 03:14:39 -0800 (PST), Vernon Pugh <dazzhigg...@hotmail.com>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> >On Mar 9, 11:09 pm, "WhiteWolf! <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>" <r...@iol.ie>
> >> >wrote:
>
> >> >Ray: just to try to bring this thread back on topic,
> >> >here is a nice idea for St. Patrick's Day:
>
> >> >http://www.zazzle.co.uk/
>
> >> >Vernon
>
> >> Go away you damn troll! You obviously have nothing worthwhile to contribute to
> >> the conversation...
>
> >Actually it is an interesting question and it is an Irish culture
> >related matter.
> >Where did the dreadful "Patti" in "Patti's Day" come from?
>
>
> Saw a sign in the supermarket the other day... "Happy Saint Patrick's Day" I
> wondered how long it will be before some commie aithiest homosexual liberal
> points out that it's a religious celebration and they are "offended" by the
> sign...
>
Now that you mention it; that is a very good idea! Thanks Ray!
Vernon Pugh
wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 08:38:44 -0800 (PST), Vernon Pugh <dazzhigg...@hotmail.com>
>
>
Not yet!
We have not created it yet.
La N
And a lot of people cannot imagine life without the remote control.
Remember when people actually got up and walked to the TV to change
channels?
- nilita
Cory Bhreckan
The porches moved around back when the plumbing moved indoors.
--
"For the stronger we our houses do build,
The less chance we have of being killed." - William Topaz McGonagall
http://www.myspace.com/corryvreckan
conwaycaine
"S Viemeister" <firs...@lastname.oc.ku> wrote in message
>> That's a shame.
>> I remember reading that once upon a time in the British Isles, pubs
>> functioned almost as living rooms for the surrounding community.
>>
>
> It was like that for me, in my late teens/early twenties. Much of my
> social life centred on pubs - for the conversation and entertainment, as
> well as the warmth ( my flat was 'heated' by a fireplace).
I think they may be giving up more than they realize.
conwaycaine
"S Viemeister" <firs...@lastname.oc.ku> wrote in message
You are right.
I hadn't considered that aspect.
conwaycaine
"La N" <nilita20...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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No big deal back when we only had three or four channels.
La N
I used to lie on my back of the floor of the living room and turn the
channel knob with my toes.
S Viemeister
> S Viemeister wrote:
>> On 3/12/2010 11:18 AM, conwaycaine wrote:
>>
>>> TV strikes again.
>>> When I was a kid, everyone had front porches and would sit on them in
>>> the
>>> evening while the houses cooled down.
>>> Neighbors would walk by, stop and chat, exchange a bit of gossip, and
>>> then
>>> off to the next house.
>>> Now the porch up front has become a patio in the back and nobody knows
>>> anybody.
>>>
>>>
>> Not just TV - air conditioning.
>>
>
> The porches moved around back when the plumbing moved indoors.
>
Vernon Pugh
wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 08:56:08 -0800 (PST), Vernon Pugh <dazzhigg...@hotmail.com>
>
But I really like the idea Ray; thanks for that. It is about time
Saint Patrick was put to bed along with all this sex abuse and priest
ridden codology. It is time that Ireland stood up and celebrated
Irishness without defining it as the day some cartoon character came
and waffled about clover.
Westprog
>>> Now that you mention it; that is a very good idea! Thanks Ray!
It seems to be a bunch of atheist lesbian communists.
>> Site doesn't exist... or can't be reached from here....
> Not yet!
> We have not created it yet.
I'm disgusted. Already the forces of political correctness are in full
swing.
Everyone should sign up to www.keepstpatricksday.ie .
--
J/
#SOTW A Forest - The Cure.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZwVgQ4Wq7E
http://galaxies-sf.monsite.orange.fr/page1.html
Vernon Pugh
> Vernon Pugh wrote:
> >>> Now that you mention it; that is a very good idea! Thanks Ray!
>
> www.happyirishnationalday.com
>
> It seems to be a bunch of atheist lesbian communists.
>
> >> Site doesn't exist... or can't be reached from here....
> > Not yet!
> > We have not created it yet.
>
> I'm disgusted. Already the forces of political correctness are in full
> swing.
>
> Everyone should sign up towww.keepstpatricksday.ie.
>
Bah; typical backwards looking stance. We will enlist the muslim
council of Ireland to help us in our campaign.
The Gay and Lesbian movement are already fully behind us.
conwaycaine
> conwaycaine wrote:
>> No big deal back when we only had three or four channels.
>
> I used to lie on my back of the floor of the living room and turn the
> channel knob with my toes.
For you young gits, the channel changer knobs were huge...........
conwaycaine
> <dazzhigg...@hotmail.com>
But I really like the idea Ray; thanks for that. It is about time
Saint Patrick was put to bed along with all this sex abuse and priest
ridden codology. It is time that Ireland stood up and celebrated
Irishness without defining it as the day some cartoon character came
and waffled about clover.
****
And when the whole of Ireland was under John Bull's tyranny and the Irish
had not a friend in the world, what of Holy Mother Church then?
Or do they no longer teach in Ireland of hedgerow schools and Mass Rock???
Vernon Pugh
> "Vernon Pugh" <dazzhigg...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
Ehhhhh how did the church help in those days?? There is an argument
that we would have been better off if we had all simply converted to
protestantism as being catholic was used as a simple excuse to
confiscate our land and treat us as criminals in waiting seeing as
were were a threat to the sovereignty of the state.
Cory Bhreckan
Now you can't change the channel *without* the remote. A major pain when
the remote gets lost or broken by a petulant child.
Cory Bhreckan
I remember hearing an NPR special on porches and, according to the
'experts', the porches were placed in front to get away from the aroma.
The socialising came as a byproduct.
S Viemeister
> conwaycaine wrote:
>> "La N" <nilita20...@yahoo.com> wrote
>>
>>>> No big deal back when we only had three or four channels.
>>> I used to lie on my back of the floor of the living room and turn the
>>> channel knob with my toes.
>>
>> For you young gits, the channel changer knobs were huge...........
>>
>
> Now you can't change the channel *without* the remote. A major pain when
> the remote gets lost or broken by a petulant child.
>
conwaycaine
On Mar 13, 3:25 pm, "conwaycaine" <conwayca...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> And when the whole of Ireland was under John Bull's tyranny and the Irish
> had not a friend in the world, what of Holy Mother Church then?
> Or do they no longer teach in Ireland of hedgerow schools and Mass Rock???
Ehhhhh how did the church help in those days??
**** for starters, hedgerow schools and Mass Rock???
There is an argument that we would have been better off if we had all simply
converted to
protestantism as being catholic was used as a simple excuse to
confiscate our land and treat us as criminals in waiting seeing as
were were a threat to the sovereignty of the state.
***
Do you really think that had all Ireland converted to the Church of England,
it would have changed one thing?
They wanted the Irish land, not the Irish.
Our ancestors would still have been transported to the Caribbean, America,
Australia, and (horror of horrors) Glasgow.
conwaycaine
"Cory Bhreckan" <coryvreckan@nospam_verizon.net> wrote in message
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> conwaycaine wrote:
>> "La N" <nilita20...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:tFBmn.68010$Db2.60733@edtnps83...
>>> conwaycaine wrote:
>>
>>>> No big deal back when we only had three or four channels.
>>> I used to lie on my back of the floor of the living room and turn the
>>> channel knob with my toes.
>>
>> For you young gits, the channel changer knobs were huge...........
>
> Now you can't change the channel *without* the remote. A major pain when
> the remote gets lost or broken by a petulant child.
Way down at the bottom of your TV and hidden behind a secret door, are all
the buttons you need to operate the blessed thing,
conwaycaine
>S Viemeister wrote:
>> On 3/12/2010 1:04 PM, Cory Bhreckan wrote:
>>> S Viemeister wrote:
>>>> On 3/12/2010 11:18 AM, conwaycaine wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> TV strikes again.
>>>>> When I was a kid, everyone had front porches and would sit on them in
>>>>> the
>>>>> evening while the houses cooled down.
>>>>> Neighbors would walk by, stop and chat, exchange a bit of gossip, and
>>>>> then
>>>>> off to the next house.
>>>>> Now the porch up front has become a patio in the back and nobody knows
>>>>> anybody.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Not just TV - air conditioning.
>>>>
>>>
>>> The porches moved around back when the plumbing moved indoors.
>>>
>> Hmm. I'd never thought about that - but, you're right!
>
> I remember hearing an NPR special on porches and, according to the
> 'experts', the porches were placed in front to get away from the aroma.
> The socialising came as a byproduct.
I can with reasonable certitude tell you that the NPR people never crapped
in an outhouse in their entire life.
A well constructed and well outfitted outhouse has no aroma.
(That's why God made lime)
Cory Bhreckan
That sounds like a recipe for trouble.
Cory Bhreckan
That's making two big assumptions.
Vernon Pugh
> "Vernon Pugh" <dazzhigg...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
The reason people went to Glasgow was because it was one of the
richest cities in the world due to the huge shipbuilding industry and
busy port.
Again, I ask you say how the (catholic) church helped Irish people?
You said hedge schools and mass rock? This was a help? In what
way?
Josiah Jenkins
<dazzh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
<sniP>
>
>The reason people went to Glasgow was because it was one of the
>richest cities in the world due to the huge shipbuilding industry and
>busy port.
Have you heard the one about the gentleman coming off the 'Irish
boat' at the Broomielaw and approaching a nearby policeman ?
'Excuse me sir, can you direct me to the monastry ?'
The big Heilan polis was amazed, 'Are you wanting to give thanks
to the Lord for a safe arrival ? The cathedral is just along the road
there but I don't know of any monastry. What's it's name ?'
'The Monastry of Labour, sir, I'll need to find a job'
--
conwaycaine
***
I'm pulling doc's leg here.
***
Again, I ask you say how the (catholic) church helped Irish people?
You said hedge schools and mass rock? This was a help? In what
way?
It was a way of summarizing the efforts the church made to assist the Irish.
Hedgerow schools for the education denied by the *nglish and open air masses
to provide the comforts of the faith denied the Irish by the *nglish.
All this was done by the good fathers at great risk to themsleves.
(Are you really that ignorant of Irish history or are you having the hapless
Merk on??)
conwaycaine
A well designed outhouse will accommodate assumptions of any size.
Vernon Pugh
> "Vernon Pugh" <dazzhigg...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
I know all about these events. I just do not see what use it was.
The hedge schools were not specifically run by the church anyway.
Cory Bhreckan
Not if 'well designed' is one of those assumptions.
Josiah Jenkins
<conwa...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>"Vernon Pugh" <dazzh...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:fead816a-638f-420e...@o3g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
>On Mar 14, 12:03 am, "conwaycaine" <conwayca...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>The reason people went to Glasgow was because it was one of the
>richest cities in the world due to the huge shipbuilding industry and
>busy port.
>
>***
>I'm pulling doc's leg here.
You may be trying . . . Dog knows you're trying . . . but
you overlook the fact that I have 2 Irish G-Grandmothers.
Who probably arrived on that 'Irish boat' that I was
joking about upthread.
>
>***
>
>Again, I ask you say how the (catholic) church helped Irish people?
>You said hedge schools and mass rock? This was a help? In what
>way?
>
>It was a way of summarizing the efforts the church made to assist the Irish.
>Hedgerow schools for the education denied by the *nglish and open air masses
>to provide the comforts of the faith denied the Irish by the *nglish.
>All this was done by the good fathers at great risk to themsleves.
>(Are you really that ignorant of Irish history or are you having the hapless
>Merk on??)
>
>
>
--
The Phantom Piper
>
> Again, I ask you say how the (catholic) church helped Irish people?
I think it's reasonable to say (if you want to go back far enough)
that the Church in Ireland preserved Civilisation Itself during the
Dark Ages. All those Books and Monks and all that Education...
Reasonably,
The Phantom Piper
conwaycaine
> conwaycaine wrote:
>>
>> A well designed outhouse will accommodate assumptions of any size.
>>
>>
>
> Not if 'well designed' is one of those assumptions.
The proper assumption would be that anything could be well designed or
poorly designed, outhouses included.
For example, my great grandfather had the first brick Privy ever built in
the Three Springs Pike area of Southwest Virginia..
conwaycaine
**
Jaysus, Vernon.
They were run by PRIESTS, for God's sake.
conwaycaine
"Josiah Jenkins" <josiah-jenkins@somewhere_else.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 11:24:35 -0400, "conwaycaine"
>>I'm pulling doc's leg here.
>
> You may be trying . . . Dog knows you're trying . . . but
> you overlook the fact that I have 2 Irish G-Grandmothers.
> Who probably arrived on that 'Irish boat' that I was
> joking about upthread.
Whereas you came down the Clyde................
;=)
Vernon Pugh
I do not think they were (run by priests). It was dangerous to be a
priest. You got arrested.
Vernon Pugh
Cory Bhreckan
You must be so proud.
conwaycaine
On Mar 15, 1:56 pm, "conwaycaine" <conwayca...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
I do not think they were (run by priests). It was dangerous to be a
priest. You got arrested.
***
And that is my point.
It was dangerous and could cost the good fathers their lives or freedom.
Which helps explains the unique position the Church held in Ireland for many
a long century.
And the respect and reverence the Irish had for their priests
So yes, Ireland owes them a great debt,
BTW, Priests taught the hedgerow schools and said Mass at the outdoor
services (no Catholic church buildings or public displays of Catholicism
allowed).
Who else was around that would or could do it, your friendly neighborhood
COE clergyman??????
Bring on the soup kettles, boys!!!
conwaycaine
On Mar 15, 1:56 pm, "conwaycaine" <conwayca...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedge_school
The church seemed to opposed to hedge schools.
***
Mister Higgins, I cannot find that referenced in your Wikipedia article.
Are you talking about this excerpt?
[The Roman Catholic bishops] welcomed the rule which requires that all the
teachers henceforth to be employed be provided from some Model School, with
a certificate of their competency, that will aid us in a work of great
difficulty, to wit, that of suppressing hedge schools, and placing youths
under the direction of competent teachers, and of those only.
(Complete article)
A hedge school (Irish names include scoil chois cla�, scoil ghairid and
scoil scairte) is the name given to an educational practice in 18th and 19th
century Ireland, so called due to its rural nature. It came about as local
educated men began an oral tradition of teaching the community. With the
advent of the commercial world in Ireland after 1600, its peasant society
saw the need for greater education.
While the "hedge school" label suggests the classes always took place
out-doors (by a hedgerow), classes were more regularly held in a house or
barn. Subjects included primarily basic grammar, English and maths (the
fundamental "three Rs"). In some schools the Irish bardic tradition, Latin,
history and home economics were also taught. Reading was generally based on
chapbooks, sold at fairs, typically with exciting stories of well-known
adventurers and outlaws. Payment was generally made per subject, and
brighter pupils would often compete locally with their teachers.
While Catholic schools were forbidden under the Penal laws from 1723 to
1782, no hedge teachers were known to be prosecuted. Indeed, official
records were made of hedge schools by census makers. Example The laws' main
target was education by the main Catholic religious orders, whose wealthier
establishments were occasionally confiscated. The laws aimed to force Irish
Catholics of the middle classes and gentry to convert to Anglicanism if they
wanted a good education in Ireland.
Hedge schools declined from the foundation of the National School system by
government in the 1830s. James Doyle, Bishop of Kildare and Leighlin
preferred this, as the new schools would be largely under the control of his
church and allow a better teaching of Catholic doctrine.[citation needed] He
wrote to his priests in 1831:
" [The Roman Catholic bishops] welcomed the rule which requires that
all the teachers henceforth to be employed be provided from some Model
School, with a certificate of their competency, that will aid us in a work
of great difficulty, to wit, that of suppressing hedge schools, and placing
youths under the direction of competent teachers, and of those only.
conwaycaine
> conwaycaine wrote:
>> "Cory Bhreckan" <coryvreckan@nospam_verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:hnjjfs$pat$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> conwaycaine wrote:
>>>> A well designed outhouse will accommodate assumptions of any size.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Not if 'well designed' is one of those assumptions.
>>
>> The proper assumption would be that anything could be well designed or
>> poorly designed, outhouses included.
>> For example, my great grandfather had the first brick Privy ever built in
>> the Three Springs Pike area of Southwest Virginia..
>
> You must be so proud.
We were right up until the yankee bummers burnt it to the ground.
La N
"conwaycaine" <conwa...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:a5GdnVadl4xH_APW...@giganews.com...
Cory's kin did that?
S Viemeister
> S Viemeister wrote:
>> On 3/13/2010 5:51 PM, Cory Bhreckan wrote:
>>> conwaycaine wrote:
>>>> "La N" <nilita20...@yahoo.com> wrote
>>>>> conwaycaine wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> No big deal back when we only had three or four channels.
>>>>> I used to lie on my back of the floor of the living room and turn the
>>>>> channel knob with my toes.
>>>>
>>>> For you young gits, the channel changer knobs were huge...........
>>>>
>>>
>>> Now you can't change the channel *without* the remote. A major pain when
>>> the remote gets lost or broken by a petulant child.
>>>
>> We have 'his and hers' remotes.
>
> That sounds like a recipe for trouble.
>
Jeffrey Hamilton
> "Cory Bhreckan" <coryvreckan@nospam_verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:hnlj2d$sq5$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>> conwaycaine wrote:
>>> "Cory Bhreckan" <coryvreckan@nospam_verizon.net> wrote in message
>>> news:hnjjfs$pat$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>> conwaycaine wrote:
>>>>> A well designed outhouse will accommodate assumptions of any size.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Not if 'well designed' is one of those assumptions.
>>>
>>> The proper assumption would be that anything could be well designed
>>> or poorly designed, outhouses included.
>>> For example, my great grandfather had the first brick Privy ever
>>> built in the Three Springs Pike area of Southwest Virginia..
>>
>> You must be so proud.
>
> We were right up until the yankee bummers burnt it to the ground.
Yeah, but all your great grandaddy had to replace, was the roof and the
door. So it wasn't _all_ bad. <g>
cheers.....Jeff
Cory Bhreckan
More than one tv fixes that.
La N
>S Viemeister wrote:
>> On 3/13/2010 7:40 PM, Cory Bhreckan wrote:
>>> S Viemeister wrote:
>>>> On 3/13/2010 5:51 PM, Cory Bhreckan wrote:
>>>>> conwaycaine wrote:
>>>>>> "La N" <nilita20...@yahoo.com> wrote
>>>>>>> conwaycaine wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No big deal back when we only had three or four channels.
>>>>>>> I used to lie on my back of the floor of the living room and turn
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> channel knob with my toes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For you young gits, the channel changer knobs were huge...........
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Now you can't change the channel *without* the remote. A major pain
>>>>> when
>>>>> the remote gets lost or broken by a petulant child.
>>>>>
>>>> We have 'his and hers' remotes.
>>>
>>> That sounds like a recipe for trouble.
>>>
>> Having only _one_ remote, was a recipe for trouble.
>
> More than one tv fixes that.
>
Or a split screen TV?
Vernon Pugh
> "Vernon Pugh" <dazzhigg...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:5a7cad36-dfdb-43e8...@y17g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
> On Mar 15, 1:56 pm, "conwaycaine" <conwayca...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedge_school
>
> The church seemed to opposed to hedge schools.
>
> ***
> Mister Higgins, I cannot find that referenced in your Wikipedia article.
> Are you talking about this excerpt?
>
> [The Roman Catholic bishops] welcomed the rule which requires that all the
> teachers henceforth to be employed be provided from some Model School, with
> a certificate of their competency, that will aid us in a work of great
> difficulty, to wit, that of suppressing hedge schools, and placing youths
> under the direction of competent teachers, and of those only.
>
Yes. The teachers were not clergy or may have been a mixture.
Cory Bhreckan
I thought it was made of brick.
Cory Bhreckan
Depends on what you split it with.
La N
> La N wrote:
>> "conwaycaine" <conwa...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>> news:a5GdnVadl4xH_APW...@giganews.com...
>>> "Cory Bhreckan" <coryvreckan@nospam_verizon.net> wrote in message
>>> news:hnlj2d$sq5$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>> conwaycaine wrote:
>>>>> "Cory Bhreckan" <coryvreckan@nospam_verizon.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:hnjjfs$pat$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>>> conwaycaine wrote:
>>>>>>> A well designed outhouse will accommodate assumptions of any size.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not if 'well designed' is one of those assumptions.
>>>>> The proper assumption would be that anything could be well designed or
>>>>> poorly designed, outhouses included.
>>>>> For example, my great grandfather had the first brick Privy ever built
>>>>> in the Three Springs Pike area of Southwest Virginia..
>>>> You must be so proud.
>>> We were right up until the yankee bummers burnt it to the ground.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Cory's kin did that?
>
> I thought it was made of brick.
>
Conway said your folks did awful things with widows. Did you think they
were made like brick sh*t houses?
Cory Bhreckan
> "Cory Bhreckan" <coryvreckan@nospam_verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:hnlvv7$sl3$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>> La N wrote:
>>> "conwaycaine" <conwa...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>> news:a5GdnVadl4xH_APW...@giganews.com...
>>>> "Cory Bhreckan" <coryvreckan@nospam_verizon.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:hnlj2d$sq5$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>> conwaycaine wrote:
>>>>>> "Cory Bhreckan" <coryvreckan@nospam_verizon.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:hnjjfs$pat$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>>>> conwaycaine wrote:
>>>>>>>> A well designed outhouse will accommodate assumptions of any size.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not if 'well designed' is one of those assumptions.
>>>>>> The proper assumption would be that anything could be well designed or
>>>>>> poorly designed, outhouses included.
>>>>>> For example, my great grandfather had the first brick Privy ever built
>>>>>> in the Three Springs Pike area of Southwest Virginia..
>>>>> You must be so proud.
>>>> We were right up until the yankee bummers burnt it to the ground.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Cory's kin did that?
>> I thought it was made of brick.
>>
>
> Conway said your folks did awful things with widows.
If the Northern liberators hadn't done so then Conway's gradfather
wouldn't have been born.
> Did you think they
> were made like brick sh*t houses?
>
>
S Viemeister
> S Viemeister wrote:
>> On 3/13/2010 7:40 PM, Cory Bhreckan wrote:
>>> S Viemeister wrote:
>>>> On 3/13/2010 5:51 PM, Cory Bhreckan wrote:
>>>>> conwaycaine wrote:
>>>>>> "La N" <nilita20...@yahoo.com> wrote
>>>>>>> conwaycaine wrote:
>>>>>>>> No big deal back when we only had three or four channels.
>>>>>>> I used to lie on my back of the floor of the living room and turn
>>>>>>> the channel knob with my toes.
>>>>>> For you young gits, the channel changer knobs were huge...........
>>>>> Now you can't change the channel *without* the remote. A major pain
>>>>> when the remote gets lost or broken by a petulant child.
>>>>>
>>>> We have 'his and hers' remotes.
>>>
>>> That sounds like a recipe for trouble.
>>>
>> Having only _one_ remote, was a recipe for trouble.
>
> More than one tv fixes that.
>
conwaycaine
*********
By 1890 the need of hedgerow teachers had abated.
conwaycaine
"La N" <nilita20...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:7mtnn.71092$PH1.42576@edtnps82...
Indeed they did.
They were looking for plunder, could not work the latch on the door, so they
burnt it down to get at the supposed loot.
yankee bummers were really not all that bright.
Vernon Pugh
> "Vernon Pugh" <dazzhigg...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:7e603097-f047-462a...@o30g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
> On Mar 15, 4:35 pm, "conwaycaine" <conwayca...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "Vernon Pugh" <dazzhigg...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:5a7cad36-dfdb-43e8...@y17g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
> > On Mar 15, 1:56 pm, "conwaycaine" <conwayca...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedge_school
>
> > The church seemed to opposed to hedge schools.
>
> > ***
> > Mister Higgins, I cannot find that referenced in your Wikipedia article.
> > Are you talking about this excerpt?
>
> > [The Roman Catholic bishops] welcomed the rule which requires that all the
> > teachers henceforth to be employed be provided from some Model School,
> > with
> > a certificate of their competency, that will aid us in a work of great
> > difficulty, to wit, that of suppressing hedge schools, and placing youths
> > under the direction of competent teachers, and of those only.
>
> Yes. The teachers were not clergy or may have been a mixture.
>
> *********
>
> By 1890 the need of hedgerow teachers had abated.
Let's start again.
What did the catholic church ever do for Ireland?
(when I asked you first time round, you said Hedge Schools).
conwaycaine
> La N wrote:
>> "conwaycaine" <conwa...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>> news:a5GdnVadl4xH_APW...@giganews.com...
>>> "Cory Bhreckan" <coryvreckan@nospam_verizon.net> wrote in message
>>> news:hnlj2d$sq5$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>> conwaycaine wrote:
>>>>> "Cory Bhreckan" <coryvreckan@nospam_verizon.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:hnjjfs$pat$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>>> conwaycaine wrote:
>>>>>>> A well designed outhouse will accommodate assumptions of any size.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not if 'well designed' is one of those assumptions.
>>>>> The proper assumption would be that anything could be well designed or
>>>>> poorly designed, outhouses included.
>>>>> For example, my great grandfather had the first brick Privy ever built
>>>>> in the Three Springs Pike area of Southwest Virginia..
>>>> You must be so proud.
>>> We were right up until the yankee bummers burnt it to the ground.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Cory's kin did that?
>
> I thought it was made of brick.
Bricks made of anthracite, Cory.
conwaycaine
"Jeffrey Hamilton" <bbere...@cogeco.ca> wrote in message
news:dwunn.92835$Ye4....@newsfe11.iad...
No upright Southerner would ever crap where a yankee had relieved himself.
The Phantom Piper
>
> No upright Southerner would ever crap
> where a yankee had relieved himself.
That's all right: the Yankees made sure that
most of you racist scumbags were lying dead
on the ground, never to be "upright" again...
How Fortunate!,
The Phantom Piper
Cory Bhreckan
> "Cory Bhreckan" <coryvreckan@nospam_verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:hnlvv7$sl3$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>> La N wrote:
>>> "conwaycaine" <conwa...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>> news:a5GdnVadl4xH_APW...@giganews.com...
>>>> "Cory Bhreckan" <coryvreckan@nospam_verizon.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:hnlj2d$sq5$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>> conwaycaine wrote:
>>>>>> "Cory Bhreckan" <coryvreckan@nospam_verizon.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:hnjjfs$pat$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>>>> conwaycaine wrote:
>>>>>>>> A well designed outhouse will accommodate assumptions of any size.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not if 'well designed' is one of those assumptions.
>>>>>> The proper assumption would be that anything could be well designed or
>>>>>> poorly designed, outhouses included.
>>>>>> For example, my great grandfather had the first brick Privy ever built
>>>>>> in the Three Springs Pike area of Southwest Virginia..
>>>>> You must be so proud.
>>>> We were right up until the yankee bummers burnt it to the ground.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Cory's kin did that?
>> I thought it was made of brick.
>
> Bricks made of anthracite, Cory.
Sounds like evolution in action then.
Westprog
> "Cory Bhreckan" <coryvreckan@nospam_verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:hnlt0l$75d$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>> That sounds like a recipe for trouble.
>>> Having only _one_ remote, was a recipe for trouble.
>> More than one tv fixes that.
> Or a split screen TV?
Seperate houses?
--
J/
SOTW: Ireland! Ireland! - Duckworth/Lewis Method
conwaycaine
***
Yes.
Let's
THE CHURCH HELD THE BLEEDING COUNTRY TOGETHER THROUGH CENTIURIES OF ENGLISH
PERSECUTION.
There.
Response enough to your question?
conwaycaine
> conwaycaine wrote:
>> "Cory Bhreckan" <coryvreckan@nospam_verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:hnlvv7$sl3$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> La N wrote:
>>>> "conwaycaine" <conwa...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:a5GdnVadl4xH_APW...@giganews.com...
>>>>> "Cory Bhreckan" <coryvreckan@nospam_verizon.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:hnlj2d$sq5$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>>> conwaycaine wrote:
>>>>>>> "Cory Bhreckan" <coryvreckan@nospam_verizon.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:hnjjfs$pat$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>>>>> conwaycaine wrote:
>>>>>>>>> A well designed outhouse will accommodate assumptions of any size.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not if 'well designed' is one of those assumptions.
>>>>>>> The proper assumption would be that anything could be well designed
>>>>>>> or poorly designed, outhouses included.
>>>>>>> For example, my great grandfather had the first brick Privy ever
>>>>>>> built in the Three Springs Pike area of Southwest Virginia..
>>>>>> You must be so proud.
>>>>> We were right up until the yankee bummers burnt it to the ground.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Cory's kin did that?
>>> I thought it was made of brick.
>>
>> Bricks made of anthracite, Cory.
>
> Sounds like evolution in action then.
>
BTW, anthracite doesn't grow in East Tennessee.
Vernon Pugh
> "Vernon Pugh" <dazzhigg...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
OHHHHHHHH NO IT DIDN'T
The Phantom Piper
>
> BTW, anthracite doesn't grow in East Tennessee.
For your information, anthracite doesn't Grow.
Dealing With An Idiot,
The Phantom Piper
Cory Bhreckan
Well, it did, sqillions of years ago.
Josiah Jenkins
<ThePhan...@comcast.net> wrote:
>On Mar 18, 5:59 am, "conwaycaine" <conwayca...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>
>> BTW, anthracite doesn't grow in East Tennessee.
>
>For your information, anthracite doesn't Grow.
Aaah, but does it 'GLOW' ?
Radioanthractivecite
E Tenn's answer to Kryptonite
>
>
>Dealing With An Idiot,
>
>The Phantom Piper
--
La N
> The Phantom Piper wrote:
>> On Mar 18, 5:59 am, "conwaycaine" <conwayca...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>> BTW, anthracite doesn't grow in East Tennessee.
>>
>> For your information, anthracite doesn't Grow.
>>
>>
>> Dealing With An Idiot,
>>
>> The Phantom Piper
>
> Well, it did, sqillions of years ago.
10 squillion would be 10 to what power, Cory?
- nil
Charles Ellson
<coryvreckan@nospam_verizon.net> wrote:
>The Phantom Piper wrote:
>> On Mar 18, 5:59 am, "conwaycaine" <conwayca...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>> BTW, anthracite doesn't grow in East Tennessee.
>>
>> For your information, anthracite doesn't Grow.
>>
>>
>> Dealing With An Idiot,
>>
>> The Phantom Piper
>
>Well, it did, sqillions of years ago.
>
That wasn't anthracite, that was vegetation.
conwaycaine
*****
OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH YES IT DID.
So there.
The Phantom Piper
wrote:
>
> Well, it did, sqillions of years ago.
Ummm - no: actually, squillions of years ago - (and, what's
with "sqillions" anyway? You with your made up words:
there's a 'U' in 'squillions', you daft ignoramus!) - anyway,
sqUillions of years ago, it wasn't Anthracite, it was rotting
Dinosaurs and Plants: soon-to-be-squillion-year-old-carbon.
And we've *got* to get ourselves back to the Garden!
By the time it got to Hard Rock, it was half-a-squillion long
(years, that is, from when it still wasn't Growing but rather
*ooozing* from the Dead Stuff into pools of Black Mush, and
THEN it began actually _shrinking_, as Mush turned hard
and became the Anthracite we know and love today).
So far from Growing, it was turning *from* Butterflies into
anthracite by *shrinking* from it's semi-liquid state over
that squillion-year period! (And everywhere is the song
of a revelation...)
Riding Shotgun In The Sky,
A Phantom Child Of God
The Phantom Piper
jenkins@somewhere_else.invalid> wrote:
>
> Aaah, but does it 'GLOW' ?
If you light it, most assuredly!
Thinking That Rather The Point,
The Phantom Piper
The Phantom Piper
>
> 10 squillion would be 10 to what power, Cory?
I'm surprised at you, Nilita. A squillion is
1/1,000th of a gazillion, as every schoolchild
ought to know!
(But at least you spelled 'squillion' correctly...)
Marking Off Points,
The Phantom Stickler