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Madra Dubh

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Jul 14, 2004, 9:35:22 AM7/14/04
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Well it is almost done for another year.
I picked a bushel of Romas, froze them then thawed them (the freezing and
thawing removes half or more of the water, reducing boiling down time).
I then ran the little fellows through my Victorio strainer.
Then to the pots to boil awhile.
After the sauce thickened, in went the Sweet Basil, Oregano, Garlic, and
salt.
Later, upon cooling, into the freezer bags and back to the freezer.
This was a very good year for Romas. Large fruits, sweet, and very pulpy.
I ended up with about two gallons of sauce and this was just the first
picking.

The Silver Queen corn didn't do squat.
But that's gardening. You never know how things are going to turn out.

Helen Ramsay

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Jul 14, 2004, 3:53:06 PM7/14/04
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"Madra Dubh" <cca...@worldnet.att.net> wrote

> Well it is almost done for another year.
> I picked a bushel of Romas, froze them then thawed them (the
freezing and
> thawing removes half or more of the water, reducing boiling down
time).
> I then ran the little fellows through my Victorio strainer.
> Then to the pots to boil awhile.
> After the sauce thickened, in went the Sweet Basil, Oregano, Garlic,
and
> salt.
> Later, upon cooling, into the freezer bags and back to the freezer.
> This was a very good year for Romas. Large fruits, sweet, and very
pulpy.
> I ended up with about two gallons of sauce and this was just the
first
> picking.

Southern hospitality demands that you invite us all for dinner now!
See you soon:)

> The Silver Queen corn didn't do squat.
> But that's gardening. You never know how things are going to turn
out.

Much like life, eh?

--
Cheers, Helen
hramsay at cogeco dot ca


MacRobert

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Jul 14, 2004, 7:33:52 PM7/14/04
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On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 15:53:06 -0400, "Helen Ramsay" <r...@hotmail.com>
paused to reflect but wrote anyway:

>
>"Madra Dubh" <cca...@worldnet.att.net> wrote
>> Well it is almost done for another year.
>> I picked a bushel of Romas, froze them then thawed them (the
>freezing and
>> thawing removes half or more of the water, reducing boiling down
>time).
>> I then ran the little fellows through my Victorio strainer.
>> Then to the pots to boil awhile.
>> After the sauce thickened, in went the Sweet Basil, Oregano, Garlic,
>and
>> salt.
>> Later, upon cooling, into the freezer bags and back to the freezer.
>> This was a very good year for Romas. Large fruits, sweet, and very
>pulpy.
>> I ended up with about two gallons of sauce and this was just the
>first
>> picking.
>
>Southern hospitality demands that you invite us all for dinner now!
>See you soon:)

Good call! Swing on by and we'll take your car.

>
>> The Silver Queen corn didn't do squat.
>> But that's gardening. You never know how things are going to turn
>out.
>
>Much like life, eh?

Naw, we know how that turns out.

MacR

Robert Peffers

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Jul 14, 2004, 9:13:42 PM7/14/04
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"Helen Ramsay" <r...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Frae Auld bob Peffers:
Gardening is like a sewer. You only get out of it what you put into it.
--

Aefauldlie, (Scots word for Honestly),
Robert, (Auld Bob), Peffers,
Kelty,
Fife,
Scotland, (UK).
Web Site, "The Eck's Files":- http://www.peffers50.freeserve.co.uk
E-Mail:- b...@weedugpeffers50.freeserve.co.uk
(Tak oot the wee dug tae send e-mail).


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Adam Whyte-Settlar

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Jul 15, 2004, 6:53:49 AM7/15/04
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"Madra Dubh" <cca...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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> Well it is almost done for another year.
> I picked a bushel of Romas, froze them then thawed them (the freezing and
> thawing removes half or more of the water, reducing boiling down time).

I was going to add that it also removes half of the flavour before realising
that you were talking about US grown produce.
A W-S


Madra Dubh

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Jul 15, 2004, 9:32:02 AM7/15/04
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"Helen Ramsay" <r...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Madra Dubh" <cca...@worldnet.att.net> wrote
> > Well it is almost done for another year.
> > I picked a bushel of Romas, froze them then thawed them (the
> freezing and
> > thawing removes half or more of the water, reducing boiling down
> time).
> > I then ran the little fellows through my Victorio strainer.
> > Then to the pots to boil awhile.
> > After the sauce thickened, in went the Sweet Basil, Oregano, Garlic,
> and
> > salt.
> > Later, upon cooling, into the freezer bags and back to the freezer.
> > This was a very good year for Romas. Large fruits, sweet, and very
> pulpy.
> > I ended up with about two gallons of sauce and this was just the
> first
> > picking.
>
> Southern hospitality demands that you invite us all for dinner now!
> See you soon:)

You have a standing invitation to dine with us whenever your travels bring
you to Charlotte.


> > The Silver Queen corn didn't do squat.
> > But that's gardening. You never know how things are going to turn
> out.
>
> Much like life, eh?

Much like life, Helen.
Our whole world can be turned on its ear in an instant.

Madra Dubh

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Jul 15, 2004, 9:32:51 AM7/15/04
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"MacRobert" <2...@mendment.Right!> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 15:53:06 -0400, "Helen Ramsay" <r...@hotmail.com>
> paused to reflect but wrote anyway:
>
> >
> >"Madra Dubh" <cca...@worldnet.att.net> wrote
> >> Well it is almost done for another year.
> >> I picked a bushel of Romas, froze them then thawed them (the
> >freezing and
> >> thawing removes half or more of the water, reducing boiling down
> >time).
> >> I then ran the little fellows through my Victorio strainer.
> >> Then to the pots to boil awhile.
> >> After the sauce thickened, in went the Sweet Basil, Oregano, Garlic,
> >and
> >> salt.
> >> Later, upon cooling, into the freezer bags and back to the freezer.
> >> This was a very good year for Romas. Large fruits, sweet, and very
> >pulpy.
> >> I ended up with about two gallons of sauce and this was just the
> >first
> >> picking.
> >
> >Southern hospitality demands that you invite us all for dinner now!
> >See you soon:)
>
> Good call! Swing on by and we'll take your car.

Bring your family as well, Stephen (but leave that Kilt behind)

Madra Dubh

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Jul 15, 2004, 9:34:53 AM7/15/04
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"Robert Peffers" <b...@peffers50.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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Yep. A garden requires work and it requires work when the work is required.
Not before, not after, but when required.
A young person can learn some valuable lessons tending a garden.

Madra Dubh

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"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <grawi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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I hate to dispute a graduate landscape gardening contractor but
WRONG!
Try it and see what I mean.

Further, homegrown tomatoes do very well in our red clay soil, producing a
full flavored fruit which would provoke envy in any of you antipodes
persons.


Michilín

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Jul 15, 2004, 12:13:26 PM7/15/04
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On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 02:13:42 +0100, "Robert Peffers"
<b...@peffers50.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

>Frae Auld bob Peffers:
>Gardening is like a sewer. You only get out of it what you put into it.
>--

What an enchanting thought.

You and Victor Hugo really must get together for a "nostalgie de la
boue" chat...


Michilín

MacRobert

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Jul 15, 2004, 1:08:52 PM7/15/04
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On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 13:32:51 GMT, "Madra Dubh"
<cca...@worldnet.att.net> paused to reflect but wrote anyway:

>
>"MacRobert" <2...@mendment.Right!> wrote in message
>news:4lgbf0losrnap1rgp...@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 15:53:06 -0400, "Helen Ramsay" <r...@hotmail.com>
>> paused to reflect but wrote anyway:

>> >


>> >Southern hospitality demands that you invite us all for dinner now!
>> >See you soon:)
>>
>> Good call! Swing on by and we'll take your car.
>
>Bring your family as well, Stephen (but leave that Kilt behind)

The kilt eats less. Are you sure you won't reconsider?

MacR

Madra Dubh

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Jul 15, 2004, 5:11:35 PM7/15/04
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"MacRobert" <2...@mendment.Right!> wrote in message
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I'll not have those knees twinkling away and upsetting the female diners.
That goes for short shorts as well.


Robert Peffers

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"Michilín" <mich...@shaw.ca> wrote in message news:40f6ac75.6082145@news...
Frae Auld Bob Peffers:
Looks like only you picked up on it though.

MacRobert

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Jul 15, 2004, 9:02:24 PM7/15/04
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On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 21:11:35 GMT, "Madra Dubh"

<cca...@worldnet.att.net> paused to reflect but wrote anyway:

>
>"MacRobert" <2...@mendment.Right!> wrote in message
>news:mfedf05kq4t3avdbp...@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 13:32:51 GMT, "Madra Dubh"
>> <cca...@worldnet.att.net> paused to reflect but wrote anyway:
>>
>> >
>> >"MacRobert" <2...@mendment.Right!> wrote in message
>> >news:4lgbf0losrnap1rgp...@4ax.com...
>> >> On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 15:53:06 -0400, "Helen Ramsay" <r...@hotmail.com>
>> >> paused to reflect but wrote anyway:
>>
>> >> >
>> >> >Southern hospitality demands that you invite us all for dinner now!
>> >> >See you soon:)
>> >>
>> >> Good call! Swing on by and we'll take your car.
>> >
>> >Bring your family as well, Stephen (but leave that Kilt behind)
>>
>> The kilt eats less. Are you sure you won't reconsider?
>
>I'll not have those knees twinkling away and upsetting the female diners.
>That goes for short shorts as well.
>

Hmm. I see what you mean. What if I put a napkin over them at
dinner?

MacR

Michilín

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Jul 16, 2004, 12:07:33 AM7/16/04
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On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 00:30:30 +0100, "Robert Peffers"
<b...@peffers50.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

>
>"Michilín" <mich...@shaw.ca> wrote in message news:40f6ac75.6082145@news...
>> On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 02:13:42 +0100, "Robert Peffers"
>> <b...@peffers50.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> >Frae Auld bob Peffers:
>> >Gardening is like a sewer. You only get out of it what you put into it.
>> >--
>>
>> What an enchanting thought.
>>
>> You and Victor Hugo really must get together for a "nostalgie de la
>> boue" chat...
>>
>>
>> Michilín
>Frae Auld Bob Peffers:
>Looks like only you picked up on it though.

That's because I used to write comedy for a living so I always have an
eye open for good lines to plagiarize!

I believe the original line was "Life is like a sewer - what you get
out of it depends on what you put in it!" circa 1955 by Tom Lehrer, an
hilarious comedy singer who taught math at Harvard, if memory serves.

>
>Aefauldlie, (Scots word for Honestly),
>Robert, (Auld Bob), Peffers,
>Kelty,
>Fife,
>Scotland, (UK).
>Web Site, "The Eck's Files":- http://www.peffers50.freeserve.co.uk
>E-Mail:- b...@weedugpeffers50.freeserve.co.uk
>(Tak oot the wee dug tae send e-mail).
>
>
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>Version: 6.0.718 / Virus Database: 474 - Release Date: 10/07/2004
>
>


Michilín

Jim Stewart

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Jul 16, 2004, 12:59:52 AM7/16/04
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"MacRobert" <2...@mendment.Right!> wrote in message
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Those poor ladies havin to sit through their night out with a napkin over
their
sweet southern faces....

Jim Stewart


Adam Whyte-Settlar

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Jul 16, 2004, 4:13:55 AM7/16/04
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"Madra Dubh" <cca...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Adam Whyte-Settlar" <grawi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:UltJc.8391$NA1.7...@news02.tsnz.net...
> >
> > "Madra Dubh" <cca...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> > news:uEaJc.251811$Gx4....@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> > > Well it is almost done for another year.
> > > I picked a bushel of Romas, froze them then thawed them (the freezing
> and
> > > thawing removes half or more of the water, reducing boiling down
time).
> >
> > I was going to add that it also removes half of the flavour before
> realising
> > that you were talking about US grown produce.
>
> I hate to dispute a graduate landscape gardening contractor but
> WRONG!
> Try it and see what I mean.

Half of nothing is still nothing.

> Further, homegrown tomatoes do very well in our red clay soil, producing a
> full flavored fruit which would provoke envy in any of you antipodes
> persons.
>

What variety did you grow? <serious question for once>
A W-S


Robert Peffers

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Jul 16, 2004, 8:44:26 AM7/16/04
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"Michilín" <mich...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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Frae Auld Bob Peffers:
I'm a fan. His version of, "I've got a little list", was hilarious.
So was, "We will all go together".

He had that happy knack of hitting nails squarely on the head.
--

Aefauldlie, (Scots word for Honestly),
Robert, (Auld Bob), Peffers,
Kelty,
Fife,
Scotland, (UK).
Web Site, "The Eck's Files":- http://www.peffers50.freeserve.co.uk
E-Mail:- b...@weedugpeffers50.freeserve.co.uk
(Tak oot the wee dug tae send e-mail).


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Lesley Robertson

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"Robert Peffers" <b...@peffers50.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> "Michilín" <mich...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:40f7527e.11878039@news...
> >
> > I believe the original line was "Life is like a sewer - what you get
> > out of it depends on what you put in it!" circa 1955 by Tom Lehrer, an
> > hilarious comedy singer who taught math at Harvard, if memory serves.
> >
I used to use that song in lectures - another verse points out that
pollution is not a problem, just don't drink the water and don't breath the
air!

> Frae Auld Bob Peffers:
> I'm a fan. His version of, "I've got a little list", was hilarious.
> So was, "We will all go together".
>
> He had that happy knack of hitting nails squarely on the head.
> --

And it's so comforting to know that he's already written the songs for WW3!
Lesley Robertson


Madra Dubh

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Jul 16, 2004, 10:43:45 AM7/16/04
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"MacRobert" <2...@mendment.Right!> wrote in message
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You planning some sort of "Dance of the Seven Veils"?
I think not.

Madra Dubh

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"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <grawi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Better Boys for household use and Romas for tomato sauce.
Both do very well, being resistant to the various plagues that beset
tomatoes around here (virus, fungus, and nematodes).

A friend of mine (and a much better gardener) had protected his garden plot
for years, successfully growing delicious vintage tomatoes.
Then his brother-in-law decide to walk through the garden one day.
Now the man had been told many times to stay the hell out of the garden lest
he track bad stuff into the area.
Needless to say, that was the last year my friend was able to grow heritage
type tomatoes.
He seriously considered shooting his brother-in-law.

MacRobert

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On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 14:43:45 GMT, "Madra Dubh"

How about if I just leave the tanned manly knees at home and limp over
for dessert?

MacR

Madra Dubh

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"MacRobert" <2...@mendment.Right!> wrote in message
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No, you come on, knees and all.
The pleasure of your company outweighs any negative impact of your hussy
knees.


Adam Whyte-Settlar

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Jul 17, 2004, 7:42:43 AM7/17/04
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"Madra Dubh" <cca...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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Have you seen 'Attack of the Killer Tomatoes'?
Should have turned them loose on said brother-in-law.
I had similar problems with the market garden. Trying to explain to people
about basic garden hygeine.
They thought I was mad of course and that they knew best.
Not familar with those varieties - I like 'Money-maker' and 'Ailsa Craig'
myself - v.tasty.
Gotta watch those godamn nematodes eh? They keep straying off the
reservation they gonna get themselves kilt.
A W-S

>
>
>


Madra Dubh

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Jul 17, 2004, 10:06:02 AM7/17/04
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"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <grawi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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If my memory serves, we generally use tomatoes rated "VSN" or some such.
This has been a fantastic year for tomatoes.
I do believe the fabric I laid down around the plants account at least for
part of it.
It would appear that by keeping the soil warmer, the plants bear heavier.
Further, the tomatoes on the vines that droop to the ground do not rot.
On nematodes, it cost a young fortune to treat a garden for those pesky
critters.
Not a do it yourself job.


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