DIY
Mac_Ray
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S Viemeister
>
> Why oh why dae ah dae diy I cry.
>
Adam Whyte-Settlar
"Mac_Ray" <axha...@clara.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Why oh why dae ah dae diy I cry.
You too eh?
I've just become a plumber.
The Kiwi government say there is a skill shortage in NZ - they're dead
right.
There is a drastic shortage of any kind of skill whatsoever in this medieval
backwater. After it taking about 4 weeks and twenty phone calls to get 3
extremely dubious 'tradesmen' to even *look* at the bloody job I decided I
didn't trust any of them and their prices were absurd anyway.
I discovered I have two different plumbing 'systems' under the house. An
iron pipe system dating back to about the 15th century and a 1970's
botched-up hacked-in copper system obviously carried out by a Kiwi with a
drastic skills shortage.
He had even used odd bits of 'micro-bore' central heating pipe in the
domestic hot water circuit. Some (leaking) joints didn't even have plumbers
tape in them!
The web wasn't much help - the only two sites I could find that even
acknowledged iron pipes still existed both said; 'Don't touch it, it is
beyond the abilities of a DIY enthusiast and even most newly qualified
plumbers'. So of course I did it anyway. Had to rip up and replace half the
bathroom floor and walls to get at the corroded pipes and buy expensive
tools I've never heard of to use once only.
But after four days (!!) I now have no skin on half my knuckles and a
gleaming new copper pipe system that (finally)doesn't leak and I know is
done properly.
Saved myself about 1000 quid too. I am trying to convince myself it was
worth the effort.
What a bloody job.
Now for the new shower and walls - I dread to think what's behind the old
1950's 'Tardiz' shower.
What's *your* tale of woe?
A W-S
Mac_Ray
"S Viemeister" <firstname...@which.net> wrote in message
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> Mac_Ray wrote:
> >
> > Why oh why dae ah dae diy I cry.
> >
> There, there - tell Auntie Sheila all about it......
DIY in the morning, DIY in the afternoon. DIY last week, DIY next week....
And it's sunny outside! Wanna go out and play....
Mac_Ray
"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <grawi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Not quite as drastic. Took a week off 2 weeks ago to redecorate. Had an
programme worked out - thought give or take a day or two it'll not matter if
I lose a bit of time here or there. Took the very first strip of wallpaper
off - and the plaster came off with it! Three days (and two extra trips to
B&Q) spent re-plastering. Now I'm realising that what with work, visitors,
weddings and normal domestic chores etc etc this bloody job is going to take
another 4-5 weekends to do. So now I'm contemplating working evenings till
midnight. Goddarn....
Adam Whyte-Settlar
.
> Not quite as drastic. Took a week off 2 weeks ago to redecorate. Had an
> programme worked out - thought give or take a day or two it'll not matter
if
> I lose a bit of time here or there. Took the very first strip of wallpaper
> off - and the plaster came off with it!
Don't tell me you didn't plan for that?
>Three days (and two extra trips to B&Q) spent re-plastering.
If it's really bad you're damn near as quick to replace the plasterboard
sheets and be done with it.
4 quid a sheet here at the moment (!) - must be a loss leader as they are
usually about 30 quid a pop IIRC.
One very good tip I did get from a DIY plumbing site was; 'Never attempt a
plumbing repair unless the plumbing supply shops are open.' It took me four
trips (25 miles each way) so I reckon you got off light. Worst job I've ever
done for assorted odds and sods that I didn't realise I would need.
> Now I'm realising that what with work, visitors,
> weddings and normal domestic chores etc etc this bloody job is going to
take
> another 4-5 weekends to do. So now I'm contemplating working evenings till
> midnight. Goddarn....
At least I never have any problems with visitors.
Helen Ramsay
> "Mac_Ray" <axha...@clara.co.uk> wrote
>> Now I'm realising that what with work, visitors,
>> weddings and normal domestic chores etc etc this
>> So now I'm contemplating working evenings till
>> midnight. Goddarn....
>
> At least I never have any problems with visitors.
:)
I wonder why?
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Cheers, Helen
hramsay at cogeco dot ca
Mac_Ray
>
> "Mac_Ray" <axha...@clara.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:112046604...@demeter.uk.clara.net...
> .
> > Not quite as drastic. Took a week off 2 weeks ago to redecorate. Had an
> > programme worked out - thought give or take a day or two it'll not
matter
> if
> > I lose a bit of time here or there. Took the very first strip of
wallpaper
> > off - and the plaster came off with it!
>
> Don't tell me you didn't plan for that?
I was in denial about the possibility.
>
> >Three days (and two extra trips to B&Q) spent re-plastering.
>
> If it's really bad you're damn near as quick to replace the plasterboard
> sheets and be done with it.
> 4 quid a sheet here at the moment (!) - must be a loss leader as they are
> usually about 30 quid a pop IIRC.
>
> One very good tip I did get from a DIY plumbing site was; 'Never attempt a
> plumbing repair unless the plumbing supply shops are open.' It took me
four
> trips (25 miles each way) so I reckon you got off light. Worst job I've
ever
> done for assorted odds and sods that I didn't realise I would need.
I sized, measured, planned, calculated everything I would need and bought it
all at once to avoid the endless round trips to B&Q. You know - when it
becomes like your second home and you start to hum along to the plinky
plonky muzak and recognize all the staff... 4th trip yesterday. 5th trip now
planned. I'm going to run out of paste and my wallpaper scissors turn out to
be blunt.
S Viemeister
Poor boy.
Inside DIY is fine in the winter.
We've just (almost) finished our new garden shed - hard work, but outside
in the sunshine.
Of course, once the shed is packed with all the stuff from our son's old
bedroom, I'll be stuck inside the house, with paint stripping, plaster
patching, and painting (or papering - haven't decided yet).
Better than our plumbing disaster of a few months ago, though.....
Sheila
Mac_Ray
> Mac_Ray wrote:
> >
> > "S Viemeister" <firstname...@which.net> wrote in message
> > news:42C8528A...@which.net...
> > > Mac_Ray wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Why oh why dae ah dae diy I cry.
> > > >
> > > There, there - tell Auntie Sheila all about it......
> >
> > DIY in the morning, DIY in the afternoon. DIY last week, DIY next
week....
> > And it's sunny outside! Wanna go out and play....
>
> Poor boy.
> Inside DIY is fine in the winter.
> We've just (almost) finished our new garden shed - hard work, but outside
> in the sunshine.
Actually, it's now clouding over and looking a bit rainy. Excellent! Embra
Fair today. Probably will rain.
Helen Ramsay
> I sized, measured, planned, calculated everything
> I would need and bought it all at once to avoid the
> endless round trips to B&Q. You know - when it
> becomes like your second home and you start to
> hum along to the plinky plonky muzak and recognize
> all the staff... 4th trip yesterday. 5th trip now planned.
> I'm going to run out of paste and my wallpaper scissors
> turn out to be blunt.
ROFL ! Sorry to not be in sympathy mode, but I'm have a really good laugh
at this. Sounds like one of those silly sitcoms that I've heard about. Too
bad you don't have a videocam going :)
Helen Ramsay
> "S Viemeister" <firstname...@which.net> wrote
>> Mac_Ray wrote:
>> >
>> > Why oh why dae ah dae diy I cry.
>> >
>> There, there - tell Auntie Sheila all about it......
>
> DIY in the morning, DIY in the afternoon. DIY last week,
> DIY next week....
> And it's sunny outside! Wanna go out and play....
Another good laugh! Thanks Alan. I needed that :)
Helen Ramsay
> > and play...
.
> Poor boy.
> Inside DIY is fine in the winter.
> We've just (almost) finished our new garden shed - hard
> work, but outside in the sunshine.
> Of course, once the shed is packed with all the stuff from
> our son's old bedroom, I'll be stuck inside the house, with
> paint stripping,
Don't mention that!
I had to have my bathtub refinished last month. After he left I noticed a
couple of dings on the bathroom door paint. I assume it happened when he
carried his equipment into the bathroom. I thought a little sanding and
repaint would be fine, but oh no! When I started with the sandpaper some
of the paint on the door came off in a sheet!
I dunno which one of my friends painted it originally, but I guess it
wasn't properly primed. So .... I ended up scraping all the paint of the
door. Then I noticed that the door frame could maybe use a wee scrape so
I'm also up to the eyeballs (and heartily sick of the whole thing) but
I'll have to finish it before my brother and his wife arrive on Sunday. My
Mother suggested I leave it for him to do when he arrives, but Ah dinnae
hink that'd gan ower ower weel :)
> plaster patching, and painting (or papering - haven't
> decided yet).
Alan should have asked you to come and help Sheila>
<whisper> It takes a woman you know :)
>
> Better than our plumbing disaster of a few months ago, though.....
You should have asked A W_S for help with that one!
S Viemeister
> > Better than our plumbing disaster of a few months ago, though.....
>
> You should have asked A W_S for help with that one!
>
He wouldn't have wanted to - it was...ummm...not the _supply_ side which
was causing the problem. MOST unpleasant.
I remember the wedding ceremony said 'for better, for worse', but there was
no specific mention of split cast-iron waste pipes and leaking bathtubs....
Sheila
S Viemeister
>
> I'm going to run out of paste and my wallpaper scissors turn out to
> be blunt.
>
knives (in a plastic holder, rather like a cheap Stanley knife). I use a
fresh one every few cuts. Very easy to get a good sharp edge, and never
tears the paper.
Worth every penny.
Sheila
Adam Whyte-Settlar
> > 'Never attempt a plumbing repair unless the plumbing supply shops are
open.' .
> I sized, measured, planned, calculated everything I would need and bought
it
> all at once to avoid the endless round trips to B&Q. You know - when it
> becomes like your second home and you start to hum along to the plinky
> plonky muzak and recognize all the staff... 4th trip yesterday. 5th trip
now
> planned. I'm going to run out of paste and my wallpaper scissors turn out
to
> be blunt.
>
That's the story.
"My baby takes the morning train....." was going round in my head all the
way home
The one that really bugged me was having to buy a $70NZ 50cm pipe wrench to
slacken off that *one* damn pipe out of the twenty that just *wouldn't*
budge with my 20cm wrench. I doubt if I'll ever use it again.
Another clever trick is that the old imperial iron measurements measure the
*inside' diameter of a pipe whilst the metric measures the *outside*
diameter. Same goes for all the elbow-joints, T-junctions, knick-knacks,
knack-knicks and tom cobblies and all. And I had *both* systems plus a load
of jerry built central-heating fittings and crap that didn't really belong
in either system.
What the hippies used to call a real head-******.
So I'm standing there looking at these racks and racks and *racks* of
imperial iron brain-scrambers and metric brass bamboozlers holding 20
different calculations in my head when some whiney, pimpley, little Kiwi
b*st*rd know-nothing shop 'assistant' bounces cheerfully up and says; 'kin i
hilp?'
I had to slide his body under the bottom rack of 50cm black plastic pipes
and use his apron to wipe the blood off my new 50cm pipe wrench to avoid
attracting any more attention from the rest of the irritating ****wits at
the checkout. Still - at least I got to use the new $70 wrench twice in all.
Can you believe it took *six* different people (I kid you not) and about 20
minutes just to order and pay a deposit on a particular sink pedestal. And
after all that they still got the figures wrong - although for once it was
in my favour so I didn't complain.
Best tip I ever got for DIY was from Pertzig (sp?) in his total masterpiece
'Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance'.
He said the best tool for fixing absolutely everything was 'gumption'.
If you had enough 'gumption' and the right attitude of mind there was no way
on earth that Motorcycle could *keep* from getting itself fixed.
And he was absolutely right.
There were several times I was in near-panic mode under the floorboards with
*three* simultaneous leaks and no head-room and no ******* idea what I was
doing and I kept thinking 'steady..Adam, gumption..., get more gumption' til
finally it got fixed.
Close call though.
A W-S
Lesley Robertson
> with
> *three* simultaneous leaks and no head-room and no ******* idea what I was
> doing and I kept thinking 'steady..Adam, gumption..., get more gumption'
> til
> finally it got fixed.
> Close call though.
Gumption... That's that heavy duty hand cleaer, isn't it????
Lesley Robertson
Deirdre Sholto Douglas
S Viemeister wrote:
> I remember the wedding ceremony said 'for better, for worse', but there was
> no specific mention of split cast-iron waste pipes and leaking bathtubs....
If there had been, you'd probably have left a contrail
in your wake...
We just re-plumbed the house last year...every waste
pipe and every supply line simply because fixing the
breaks and leaks as they occurred one by one was
nickeling and diming us to death. One would think,
after all that, both fate and fortune would smile on
us of a while...and they did until I turned the spigot
on the _outside_ tap to water the garden. Ruddy
thing went off like Old Faithful, the wee turny thing
shot off to God Only Knows Where and on a sunny
Sunday afternoon I'm desperately trying to get the
village to shut down the water at the Buffalo box.
Mind you, it was a hot day and the neighbourhood kids
and dog seemed to enjoy playing in the spray whilst
I dialled every villlage emergency number in the book...
it took an hour for them to get there and only then
after the police came by and noticed the street was
flooding.
I don't even want to _open_ next month's water bill.
Deirdre
Adam Whyte-Settlar
I had to take the old bathtub out of the bathroom too.
What a load of laughs that turned out to be .
I don't know why they even bothered fitting it.
There was so much timber and metal framing holding it in there it would have
been waterproof without the damn tub.
When I had finally managed to demolish and remove everything holding it in
place (hours) I tried to lift it upright to 'walk' it out.
For some reason I kept hearing the words of that silly 1950's song..
"Tried to lift it...
Couldn't even shift it
We wuz getting nowhere
etc.
I couldn't even move it.
Damn thing was solid iron under the enamal.
I tried smashing it with a 14lb sledgehammer - sometimes works with cast
iron.
All I got was second degree concussion from the shock wave and three days
worth of tinnitus in a lump sum.
In the end I had to drive the usual 25 miles into town and hire a heavy duty
grinder with a 9 inch cutting disc and hack the bloody thing into bits and
carry it out a piece at a time.
And the dust!!
First rule of DIY is
'Nothing is ever easy'
Second rule of DIY is
'Nothing is ever easy'
A W-S
Helen Ramsay
> I had to take the old bathtub out of the bathroom too.
> What a load of laughs that turned out to be .
<snip>
> I couldn't even move it.
> Damn thing was solid iron under the enamal.
> I tried smashing it with a 14lb sledgehammer - sometimes works with cast
> iron.
> All I got was second degree concussion from the shock wave and three
> days
> worth of tinnitus in a lump sum.
LOL I damn near fell off my chair! Thanks for the laugh you old DIY you!
S Viemeister
>
> I don't even want to _open_ next month's water bill.
>
That, and the plumber's bill.....
Good luck with it.
Sheila
Mac_Ray
> First rule of DIY is
> 'Nothing is ever easy'
> Second rule of DIY is
> 'Nothing is ever easy'
Third rule is - everything takes 3X as long as the time you first thought
of - so treble the time. Thing is - even knowing that and trebling the time,
it *still* takes 3X as long.
Mac_Ray
"Helen Ramsay" <h...@AwaAnBileYirHeid.com> wrote in message
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That would be the final straw...!
Mac_Ray
Actually - it's only the last 1/8 that's blunt. Long straight cuts are no
problem. It means that instead of deftly snipping the tricky corner bits it
kinda chews the paper into submission. A knife sounds like a good idea
though - must remember that.
Deirdre Sholto Douglas
S Viemeister wrote:
>
> Deirdre Sholto Douglas wrote:
>
> >
> > I don't even want to _open_ next month's water bill.
> >
> That, and the plumber's bill.....
That I've already dealt with...$220.00/hour and
they _still_ don't want to come out. Happily, the
repair took only about 90 minutes so it wasn't as
bad as it could have been.
Don't however, ask me about the artistically minded
male of the species who took one look at the spraying
geyser and said "Och, where's my pad?" and promptly
plopped down to sketch it. He soon discovered that
while I might not have had complete control of the
situation, I had enough to direct the spray and douse
him...needless to say, it was enough to banish the
muse and jolt him back into "Responsible Homeowner"
mode
I'm sure _someone_ warned me about artists...I just
wish I'd been listening.
Deirdre
Mac_Ray
masterpiece
> 'Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance'.
> He said the best tool for fixing absolutely everything was 'gumption'.
> If you had enough 'gumption' and the right attitude of mind there was no
way
> on earth that Motorcycle could *keep* from getting itself fixed.
> And he was absolutely right.
> There were several times I was in near-panic mode under the floorboards
with
> *three* simultaneous leaks and no head-room and no ******* idea what I was
> doing and I kept thinking 'steady..Adam, gumption..., get more gumption'
til
> finally it got fixed.
> Close call though.
Indeed. Don't know about you - but beneath my placid, calm and calculating
exterior a temper tantrum a la average 2 year old is bursting to get out.
Now and again. Not that it ever does...
BTW - read 'Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance' whilst cycling (not
simultaneously I hasten to add) along the Great Ocean Road from Melbourne to
Wangerratta. Howzabout that then, eh...? Cool or what?
Mac_Ray
"Helen Ramsay" <h...@AwaAnBileYirHeid.com> wrote in message
Yeah, it was a good one...
S Viemeister
>
> Don't however, ask me about the artistically minded
> male of the species who took one look at the spraying
> geyser and said "Och, where's my pad?" and promptly
> plopped down to sketch it. He soon discovered that
> while I might not have had complete control of the
> situation, I had enough to direct the spray and douse
> him...needless to say, it was enough to banish the
> muse and jolt him back into "Responsible Homeowner"
> mode
>
> I'm sure _someone_ warned me about artists...I just
> wish I'd been listening.
>
I married a physicist.
Sheila
S Viemeister
>
> Actually - it's only the last 1/8 that's blunt. Long straight cuts are no
> problem. It means that instead of deftly snipping the tricky corner bits it
> kinda chews the paper into submission. A knife sounds like a good idea
> though - must remember that.
>
the blade _must_ be sharp and fresh.
Sheila
Deirdre Sholto Douglas
S Viemeister wrote:
> I used to date artists.
> I married a physicist.
I'm surrounded by physicists...day in and day
out...after exposure to them, someone who's
been inhaling turps all day is an improvement.
At least he _realises_ his ideas are fantasy...
Deirdre
S Viemeister
>
> I'm surrounded by physicists...day in and day
> out...after exposure to them, someone who's
> been inhaling turps all day is an improvement.
> At least he _realises_ his ideas are fantasy...
>
Duke of URL
> Deirdre Sholto Douglas wrote:
>>
>> I don't even want to _open_ next month's water bill.
>>
> That, and the plumber's bill.....
When I had frozen burst pipes in my former house, the water company told me
to have the plumber figure out how much leaked (about a foot in the entire
large crawlspace & it stayed that deep, despite being very sandy soil) -
they then deducted that from my bill.
--
Moses.D...@gmail.com
Cliologist, Philanthropologist, Prothonotary Wibbler,
Paleoconservative, Surface Warrior Squid
Deirdre Sholto Douglas
Duke of URL wrote:
>
> S Viemeister wrote:
> > Deirdre Sholto Douglas wrote:
> >>
> >> I don't even want to _open_ next month's water bill.
> >>
> > That, and the plumber's bill.....
>
> When I had frozen burst pipes in my former house, the water company told me
> to have the plumber figure out how much leaked (about a foot in the entire
> large crawlspace & it stayed that deep, despite being very sandy soil) -
> they then deducted that from my bill.
I should be so lucky...I picture the water company
executives gleefully rubbing their hands together
anticipating bonuses whilst my meter does a taran-
tella at light speed. At best, all they'll let me deduct
will be the "waste" portion since it hit the storm
drains instead of the sewage lines, but I doubt I'll
get even that without a fight.
Deirdre
Adam Whyte-Settlar
"Lesley Robertson" <l.a.ro...@tnw.tudelft.nl> wrote in message
news:9fcc5$42c954f7$82a1f636$31...@news1.tudelft.nl...
It's a funny old word isn't it.
Pertzig (sp?) realised this and explained in his book that he had tried to
think of a better one but that good old-fashioned 'gumption' was really the
only word that would express what he was trying to say.
It was about having a 'can do' sort of attitude to life's little plumbing
problems.
I think there *is* a hand cleaner of that name too.
Adam Whyte-Settlar
Bloody hot I would have thought.
Great book. It's in my all time top ten.
Mind you I had to read it three times to get any idea of what he was
prattling on about.
The first time I just had to give up on the italicized 'ghost of the past'
character and read the 'real' travelogue story, then went back to the
beginning and read it again.
A W-S
Adam Whyte-Settlar
> Can you believe it took *six* different people (I kid you not) and about
20
> minutes just to order and pay a deposit on a particular sink pedestal. And
> after all that they still got the figures wrong - although for once it was
> in my favour so I didn't complain.
Spoke too soon.
Make that *eight* people plus an unknown number at the accounts dept at
headquarters.
They phoned me up at 9am (!!) this morning and told me they had 'no
financial record of my paying a deposit on the sink pedestal' and could I
give them the transaction details, ie; was it by cheque, credit card or
whatever. I had to hunt for the reciept and dictate several 6 digit numbers
over the phone so they could sort it out.
I usually don't even *speak* til at least 11am and 3 cups of coffee.
Couldn't see the numbers nor get my toungue unstuck from my palate.
In the process they discovered that they had undercharged me (despite
employing my finely honed evasion tactics) so it didn't work out in my
favour after all.
Wish I had complained at the time now.
It's not over yet either.
A little snippet of life in medieval NZ. This isn't exceptional - it's the
norm.
Makes me wonder how they survive at all.
Never mind - got the tiles half-price in a sale today so I've treated myself
to two bottles of Shiraz Cabernet.
A W-S
Lachie
What are the lottery numbers for Saturday then?
--
Lachie.
No man is an island, John Donne wasn't lying. LWIII
Custos Custodum
Seconded. I haven't used scissors for years. I even use an old bread
knife to cut the strips before hanging. One great advantage of the
Stanley knife technique is that you can make virtually invisible butt
joints around windows and doors: simply overlap the paper and lean
extra hard to cut cleanly through both layers. Remove the excess and
smooth down. Once it dries, no one will know it's there but you. For
best results, use a new blade for every cut.
S Viemeister
42
Sheila
Karl-Heinz Efkemann
> > >I used to date artists.
> > >I married a physicist.
> >
> > What are the lottery numbers for Saturday then?
> >
>
> 42
>
and Everything" ;-)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Answer_to_Life,_the_Universe,_and_Everything
--
Karl-Heinz
Adam Whyte-Settlar
> 42
>
> Sheila
What was the question again?
Lesley Robertson
"Karl-Heinz Efkemann" <khefk...@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:1120575984....@kronos.efkemann.dyndns.org...
Lesley Robertson
Karl-Heinz Efkemann
> >> > What are the lottery numbers for Saturday then?
> >> >
> >>
> >> 42
> >>
> > No, that ist the answer to the "Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe,
> > and Everything" ;-)
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Answer_to_Life,_the_Universe,_and_Everything
> >
> Yes... And how do they define "everything"?
> Lesley Robertson
put this into google: "answer to life the universe and everything ="
--
Karl-Heinz
Mac_Ray
I reckoned the first third was fascinating, the second third bamboozling and
the final third a mix of fascinating and bamboozling. But it's certainly one
of the best books I've ever read. And I was cycling from Melbourne to
Warrnambool - I've just realised, not Wangerratta which is somewhere else.
There is something about reading a travelogue whilst travelling.
Mac_Ray
"Custos Custodum" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:hijkc1ddnr8apamd4...@4ax.com...
A new blade for every cut? Ye gods man - do you think I'm made of money?
I'm an Aberdonian btw. Pleased to meet you.
S Viemeister
>
> A new blade for every cut? Ye gods man - do you think I'm made of money?
>
the blades are not the standard pricier Stanley ones - they're very
inexpensive cartridges of small, thin, snap-off blades. The plastic holder
with a packet of a few dozen blades will likely cost less than just a
couple of replacement blades for a Stanley. Wallpaper is expensive -
disposable blades are cheap, and help avoid tearing the expensive paper.
Sheila
Custos Custodum
wrote:
That's just for butt joints. As Sheila says, each blade is normally
good for a few cuts. In fact, depending on the paper I can sometimes
make a blade last for two or three rolls, trimmimg top and bottom.
Lachie
Well I'm Zaphod Beeblebrox, where is my Pan Galactic Gargleblaster?
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Lachie.
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Charles Ellson
khefk...@netscape.net "Karl-Heinz Efkemann" writes:
> Am Dienstag, den 05.07.2005, 08:00 -0400 schrieb S Viemeister:
> > > >I used to date artists.
> > > >I married a physicist.
> > >
> > > What are the lottery numbers for Saturday then?
> > >
> >
> > 42
> >
> No, that is the answer to the "Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe,
> and Everything" ;-)
>
Didn't they find out later that 42 was a miscalculation ?
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Mac_Ray
"Charles Ellson" <cha...@ellson.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:112058...@ellson.demon.co.uk...
> In article <1120575984....@kronos.efkemann.dyndns.org>
> khefk...@netscape.net "Karl-Heinz Efkemann" writes:
>
>> > >
> > > 42
> > >
> > No, that is the answer to the "Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe,
> > and Everything" ;-)
> >
> Didn't they find out later that 42 was a miscalculation ?
For years I laboured under the misapprehension that the answer was 49.
Oddly, the husband of the woman who sat next to me at work also thought it
was 49. What's the probability of that eh?
Mac_Ray
"S Viemeister" <firstname...@which.net> wrote in message
news:42CACAED...@which.net...
I've seen them. Sounds like a good idea. As it turns out - I didn't run out
of paste and didn't have to make the 5th trip to B&Q. But I don't believe
the journeys there are over yet...
Adam Whyte-Settlar
> > The first time I just had to give up on the italicized 'ghost of the
past'
> > character and read the 'real' travelogue story, then went back to the
> > beginning and read it again.
>
> I reckoned the first third was fascinating, the second third bamboozling
and
> the final third a mix of fascinating and bamboozling.
It was definitely worth persevering with - I wasn't joking when I said I had
to read it three times to figure it out.
I love the fantastic note of optimism in ends on.
His second one was quite good but nothing special.
> But it's certainly one
> of the best books I've ever read. And I was cycling from Melbourne to
> Warrnambool - I've just realised, not Wangerratta which is somewhere else.
> There is something about reading a travelogue whilst travelling.
I've picked up snippits about your bike travels in Oz - sounds really
interesting.
I'm a bit of a bike freak myself but we havn't done a lot lately since the
PFD badly damaged her ankle a couple of years ago. She is pretty much back
to 95% fitness now so we may do a few trips out from Brisbane if we ever get
there. We had originally considered touring the South Island of NZ on bikes
but the drivers here are so appalling it would be suicide. Shame, because
otherwise it would be a great country for it.
I used to ride a bike 10 miles across Auckland twice a day for a while -
that was an adrenalin sport let me tell you.
Anyway - I've got to go and rip out this old shower-stall today....
A W-S
Lesley Robertson
Lesley Robertson
S Viemeister
Sheila
Karl-Heinz Efkemann
> > put this into google: "answer to life the universe and everything ="
> >
> You missed my point - "everything" includes the lottery numbers.
> Lesley Robertson
But please tell me how you seperate "lottery numbers" from "everything"?
Doesn't it look similar to searching a black person in a dark
tunnel? ;-)
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Karl-Heinz
Mac_Ray
> > of the best books I've ever read. And I was cycling from Melbourne to
> > Warrnambool - I've just realised, not Wangerratta which is somewhere
else.
> > There is something about reading a travelogue whilst travelling.
>
> I've picked up snippits about your bike travels in Oz - sounds really
> interesting.
> I'm a bit of a bike freak myself but we havn't done a lot lately since the
> PFD badly damaged her ankle a couple of years ago. She is pretty much back
> to 95% fitness now so we may do a few trips out from Brisbane if we ever
get
> there. We had originally considered touring the South Island of NZ on
bikes
> but the drivers here are so appalling it would be suicide. Shame, because
> otherwise it would be a great country for it.
> I used to ride a bike 10 miles across Auckland twice a day for a while -
> that was an adrenalin sport let me tell you.
>
I think that you'd find that Oz wasn't much better - car drivers are crap.
My theory (and I think that I've expounded it here before) is that they've
got too much space. Driving to them is an open road experience (they think).
Unlike here where we move from congested cities to motorway jams to piddling
along on country roads.
Cycling I used Lonely Planet's "Cycling Australia" as a guide. They had a
decent round trip out of Brisbane. I think that they do a Cycling NZ as
well - which may or may not be my next big trip.
> Anyway - I've got to go and rip out this old shower-stall today....
And I gave up painting the cornices at 9:30 out of boredom.