ABBA, Part Two
conwaycaine
concert tour.
They turned it down.
Now there's a Swede for you.
Josiah Jenkins
wrote:
>They already have more money than they will ever need.
That's probably an alien concept in Murkin terms !
>
>Money doesn't motivate them any more.
Apparently Agnetha (Fältskog), the blonde one, has always hated flying
and now totally refuses to do so. Allegedly why all four members of
the group attended only the Swedish premiere of Mamma Mia in Stockholm
and not the L*nd*n one.
conwaycaine
"Custos Custodum" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> motivate them any more. The girls' voices will almost certainly have
> changed, too. They may well have lost the 'blend' that made them sound
> so good at the time.
Then again, they may sound just as good as they ever did.
Voices tend to wear well over time, even maturing and strengthening.
Consider all the Fifties rock stars still bellowing them out and the singers
well into their sixties and early seventies.
As to the money, you are most likely right.
I believe two or three million of their albums still sell every year.
The royalties on that must make a tidy sum.
conwaycaine
"Josiah Jenkins" <josiah-jenkins@somewhere_else.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 15:50:09 +0100, Custos Custodum <m...@privacy.net>
> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 10:21:39 -0400, "conwaycaine"
>><conwa...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>
>>>About ten years ago ABBA was offered a cool billion dollars to do a 100
>>>concert tour.
>>>They turned it down.
>>>Now there's a Swede for you.
>>>
>>They already have more money than they will ever need.
>
> That's probably an alien concept in Murkin terms !
A lawyer dares say that?
I hope you had the decency to blush while writing that one.
;=)
>>Money doesn't motivate them any more.
>
> Apparently Agnetha (Fältskog), the blonde one, has always hated flying
> and now totally refuses to do so. Allegedly why all four members of
> the group attended only the Swedish premiere of Mamma Mia in Stockholm
> and not the L*nd*n one.
I'm hoping the hoopla over "Mama Mia" might lure them out.
Hells bells, I'd settle for one TV spectacular and it from Stockholm.
I did admire that group.
They were one of a kind...............
Ruiseart agus Ceit
> Then again, they may sound just as good as they ever did.
> Voices tend to wear well over time, even maturing and strengthening.
> Consider all the Fifties rock stars still bellowing them out and the
> singers well into their sixties and early seventies.
The ladies have kept singing all these years and their voices are still
excellent. The two chaps have also maintained their skills, constantly
playing and writing. I doubt that they'd have much of a problem putting it
all together again.
Ruiseart.
--
Ruiseart Alcorn - Celtic folk/rock music
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conwaycaine
"Ruiseart agus Ceit" <kerrie...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> "conwaycaine" wrote:
>
>> Then again, they may sound just as good as they ever did.
>> Voices tend to wear well over time, even maturing and strengthening.
>> Consider all the Fifties rock stars still bellowing them out and the
>> singers well into their sixties and early seventies.
>
> The ladies have kept singing all these years and their voices are still
> excellent. The two chaps have also maintained their skills, constantly
> playing and writing. I doubt that they'd have much of a problem putting it
> all together again.
I wish they would.
They still have a tremendous fan base out there.
And in this age, a hundred concert tour really wouldn't be necessary.
Just TV specials and some new songs.
<Please?>
The Fifeshire Bimbo
"conwaycaine" <conwa...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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No more ABBA? Mamma Mia!
The two guys from ABBA say the group will never ever perform again.
Bjorn Ulvaeus and Benny Andersson, shown, tell London's Sunday Telegraph
there's nothing that will entice them onstage again.
Ulvaeus says money is not a factor and they want people to remember them as
they were: "young, exuberant, full of energy and ambition."
The film version of the musical Mamma Mia!, which features ABBA songs, comes
out July 16 in North America.
conwaycaine
"The Fifeshire Bimbo" <htr.@awa.an.bile.yer.heid.com> wrote in message
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Hey Miz Helen!
Yeah, I read that pronouncement.
I'm waiting for the hysteria to mount as "Mama Mia" is released all over the
world.
It only took hearing "Dancing Queen" on the movie trailers to restore my
abba-mania.
What impact is the entire movie going to have?
Performers do love to perform, especially to rabid fans.
So there is hope. There is hope.
(As I sit here humming "Fernando")
Ian Smith
I remember Agnetha Fältskog (the blonde lassie) did a new song several
years ago, but it had nothing like the punch of the old ABBA hits. I too
have a soft spot for them. Almost everything they did is in my music
collection. I'm sure they easily do another chart topper.
Fred J. McCall
:
:"The Fifeshire Bimbo" <htr.@awa.an.bile.yer.heid.com> wrote in message
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:>
:>
:> The film version of the musical Mamma Mia!, which features ABBA songs,
:>
:
:Hey Miz Helen!
:Yeah, I read that pronouncement.
:I'm waiting for the hysteria to mount as "Mama Mia" is released all over the
:world.
:It only took hearing "Dancing Queen" on the movie trailers to restore my
:abba-mania.
:What impact is the entire movie going to have?
:Performers do love to perform, especially to rabid fans.
:So there is hope. There is hope.
:(As I sit here humming "Fernando")
I saw the musical several years ago in Las Vegas. It actually was
pretty good.
I have this horrible feeling that the movie isn't going to do it
justice. Too much 'star power' and I never figured folks like Meryl
Streep for musical performers.
--
"Adrenaline is like exercise, but without the excessive gym fees."
-- Professor Walsh, "Buffy the Vampire Slayer"
Nebulous
> motivate them any more. The girls' voices will almost certainly have
> changed, too. They may well have lost the 'blend' that made them sound
> so good at the time.
I think you guys must all have been old at the time!
Abba were regarded as pretty rubbish by most of my friends. I remember an
Abba revival group coming to Aberdeen in the mid 90's and one of our members
of staff was going along, getting dressed up and really excited about it.
She said to me it must have been really exciting being around when they were
on the go. She really didn't believe me when I said most of us didn't rate
them at all at the time!
Neb
conwaycaine
"Ian Smith" <ianin...@btinternet.naespam.com> wrote in message
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The amazing part is, as unique and successful as the group was, no wannabes
showed up to cash in after the group disbanded.
But who could hope to match that sound or create such songs?
conwaycaine
"Fred J. McCall" <fmc...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> "conwaycaine" <conwa...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> :
> :"The Fifeshire Bimbo" <htr.@awa.an.bile.yer.heid.com> wrote in message
> :news:6ds5peF...@mid.individual.net...
> :>
> :>
> :> The film version of the musical Mamma Mia!, which features ABBA songs,
> :> comes out July 16 in North America.
> :>
> :
> :Hey Miz Helen!
> :Yeah, I read that pronouncement.
> :I'm waiting for the hysteria to mount as "Mama Mia" is released all over
> the
> :world.
> :It only took hearing "Dancing Queen" on the movie trailers to restore my
> :abba-mania.
> :What impact is the entire movie going to have?
> :Performers do love to perform, especially to rabid fans.
> :So there is hope. There is hope.
> :(As I sit here humming "Fernando")
> :
>
> I saw the musical several years ago in Las Vegas. It actually was
> pretty good.
>
> I have this horrible feeling that the movie isn't going to do it
> justice. Too much 'star power' and I never figured folks like Meryl
> Streep for musical performers.
I'm sure that could not be Meryl Sreep leaping about the screen on the movie
trailers.
(They are hyping the crap out of the flick)
conwaycaine
"Nebulous" <jw...@pigtail.com> wrote in message
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If your friend saw an ABBA group in the mid nineties, it had to have been a
"Tribute" group.
And if you felt that the original ABBA group was rubbish, why
then....................
Cory Bhreckan
I don't think they were rubbish, they were far too bland.
--
"For the stronger we our houses do build,
The less chance we have of being killed." - William Topaz McGonagall
Fred J. McCall
:
:"Fred J. McCall" <fmc...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
:
They pretty much have to. Can you imagine what they have to be paying
for cast salaries? Streep may rhyme with 'cheap', but she ain't...
--
"Millions for defense, but not one cent for tribute."
-- Charles Pinckney
kron...@yahoo.co.uk
You know that was true to your eternal shame! Ditto for the Bee-gees
of course too.(all those Kenny Everet jokes with the teeth)
They had the last laugh. They made some of the best Pop must of the
20th century for sure.
Now let's get this right - it wasn't Mozart, it was written as pop-
music for discos and it was great for that purpose.
Anybody who thinks otherwise is a musical snob for sure.
Having said all that I wouldn't like to see poor Agnethas (or whatever
her name was) saggy tits and bum at her age! Let her young memory
persist.
K.
conwaycaine
ABBA will probably carry the day.
A touring company performing the stage version should be showing up in
Charlotte before too long.
I will go.
conwaycaine
"Cory Bhreckan" <coryv...@nospam.verizon.net> wrote in message
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You prefer the screams of dying Southern widow women.
Cory Bhreckan
And the lament of their children.
conwaycaine
> conwaycaine wrote:
>>> I don't think they were rubbish, they were far too bland.
>>
>> You prefer the screams of dying Southern widow women.
>
> And the lament of their children.
"The Night They Tore Old Dixie Down"
Cory Bhreckan
Naa naa na na na na naa na na naa na na na naa
Poetry isn't dead in the South.
Jane Margaret Laight
wrote:
> conwaycaine wrote:
> > "Cory Bhreckan" <coryvrec...@nospam.verizon.net> wrote in message
"Alas for the South!
Her books have grown fewer--
She never was much given to literature"
--J. Gordon Coogler--Carolina's answer to the Great McGonagall
conwaycaine
> conwaycaine wrote:
>> "Cory Bhreckan" <coryv...@nospam.verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:C0Kek.202$kf4.106@trnddc03...
>>> conwaycaine wrote:
>>>>> I don't think they were rubbish, they were far too bland.
>>>> You prefer the screams of dying Southern widow women.
>>> And the lament of their children.
>>
>> "The Night They Tore Old Dixie Down"
>>
>>
>>
>
> Naa naa na na na na naa na na naa na na na naa
>
> Poetry isn't dead in the South.
Never was.
It's youse guys what talk funny.
Cory Bhreckan
> "Cory Bhreckan" <coryv...@nospam.verizon.net> wrote in message
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>> conwaycaine wrote:
>>> "Cory Bhreckan" <coryv...@nospam.verizon.net> wrote in message
>>> news:C0Kek.202$kf4.106@trnddc03...
>>>> conwaycaine wrote:
>>>>>> I don't think they were rubbish, they were far too bland.
>>>>> You prefer the screams of dying Southern widow women.
>>>> And the lament of their children.
>>> "The Night They Tore Old Dixie Down"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Naa naa na na na na naa na na naa na na na naa
>>
>> Poetry isn't dead in the South.
>
> Never was.
> It's youse guys what talk funny.
It happens when you have all your natural teeth.
Bryn
wrote:
> conwaycaine wrote:
> > "Cory Bhreckan" <coryvrec...@nospam.verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> - Show quoted text -
That was on last night...
Conan
conwaycaine
> conwaycaine wrote:
>> "Cory Bhreckan" <coryv...@nospam.verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:nRTek.335$jS4.3@trnddc07...
>>> conwaycaine wrote:
>>>> "Cory Bhreckan" <coryv...@nospam.verizon.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:C0Kek.202$kf4.106@trnddc03...
>>>>> conwaycaine wrote:
>>>>>>> I don't think they were rubbish, they were far too bland.
>>>>>> You prefer the screams of dying Southern widow women.
>>>>> And the lament of their children.
>>>> "The Night They Tore Old Dixie Down"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Naa naa na na na na naa na na naa na na na naa
>>>
>>> Poetry isn't dead in the South.
>>
>> Never was.
>> It's youse guys what talk funny.
>
> It happens when you have all your natural teeth.
Bring them choppers to Savannah.
Someone there will handle that problem for you........
Adam Whyte-Settlar
> About ten years ago ABBA was offered a cool billion dollars to do a 100
> concert tour.
> They turned it down.
> Now there's a Swede for you.
What's a billion dollars US going to buy them? A couple of gallons of petrol
for their fleet of Volvos?
How typical of a Yank to think that worthless monopoly money would motivate
them or anyone else.
Adam Whyte-Settlar
For once we agree - the most over-rated heap of shit that ever conned a
teeny-bopper out of their pocket money.
conwaycaine
"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble> wrote in message
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I believe it was a European group what made the offer.
The billion dollar figure was used in the US press, the Americans not
knowing how to translate Euros into real money.
conwaycaine
"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble> wrote in message
Is there nothing sacred to you?
Adam Whyte-Settlar
Nope. Certainly not ABBA. The girls could certainly sing and their
composition was complicated and clever but the end result was pappy, trite,
bereft of true spirit and ultimately meaningless.
And bloody good luck to them too.
conwaycaine
"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble> wrote in message
>>> For once we agree - the most over-rated heap of shit that ever conned a
>>> teeny-bopper out of their pocket money.
>>
>> Is there nothing sacred to you?
>
> Nope. Certainly not ABBA. The girls could certainly sing and their
> composition was complicated and clever but the end result was pappy,
> trite, bereft of true spirit and ultimately meaningless.
> And bloody good luck to them too.
I can only assume you are having a "Senior Moment" here.
Either that or you are yet another stone deaf BeeGees fan.
Dig out your polyester suit and dancing shoes.
Put on "Take a chance on me"
Make a few moves.
And remember what the 70's Disco Days were all about.
Adam Whyte-Settlar
LOL.
How soon you forget.
Disco was the absolute antithesis of what I was into in the 70's. I was a
punk rocker remember.
Punk was invented to kill disco and all the other hell on earth mushy
gutless passionless pap.
And it did. And thank **** it did.
Adam Whyte-Settlar
> On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 01:04:12 +1000, "Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"conwaycaine" <conwa...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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>>>
>>> "Josiah Jenkins" <josiah-jenkins@somewhere_else.invalid> wrote in
>>> message
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>>>> On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 15:50:09 +0100, Custos Custodum <m...@privacy.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 10:21:39 -0400, "conwaycaine"
>>>>><conwa...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>About ten years ago ABBA was offered a cool billion dollars to do a
>>>>>>100
>>>>>>concert tour.
>>>>>>They turned it down.
>>>>>>Now there's a Swede for you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>They already have more money than they will ever need.
>>>>
>>>> That's probably an alien concept in Murkin terms !
>>>
>>> A lawyer dares say that?
>>> I hope you had the decency to blush while writing that one.
>>> ;=)
>>>
>>>>>Money doesn't motivate them any more.
>>>>
>>>> and now totally refuses to do so. Allegedly why all four members of
>>>> the group attended only the Swedish premiere of Mamma Mia in Stockholm
>>>> and not the L*nd*n one.
>>>
>>> I'm hoping the hoopla over "Mama Mia" might lure them out.
>>> Hells bells, I'd settle for one TV spectacular and it from Stockholm.
>>> I did admire that group.
>>> They were one of a kind...............
>>
>>For once we agree - the most over-rated heap of shit that ever conned a
>>teeny-bopper out of their pocket money.
>>
> Four podgy, middle-aged men who still can't play in tune or in time.
<groan>
They aren't still after the filthy lucre are they? That's sad.
I agree that it's an absolute travesty that they didn't all do the decent
thing and die young from a gross excess of lots of everything all the time.
But you have to see it in the context of the 70's. They couldn't sing, they
couldn't play, but- following the likes of the Bay City Rollers - WE DIDN'T
FUCKIN' CAAAAAAARRRE!!!
Heady days. I still play them occasionally and it still makes where I used
to have hair stand on end even yet.
Adam Whyte-Settlar
"Ian Smith" <ianin...@btinternet.naespam.com> wrote in message
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> years ago, but it had nothing like the punch of the old ABBA hits. I too
> have a soft spot for them. Almost everything they did is in my music
> collection. I'm sure they easily do another chart topper.
You sad pathetic old git.
I might be a sad old git too but at least I was never an Abba fan.
Adam Whyte-Settlar
>> On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 10:21:39 -0400, "conwaycaine"
>> <conwa...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>
>>>About ten years ago ABBA was offered a cool billion dollars to do a 100
>>>concert tour.
>>>They turned it down.
>>>Now there's a Swede for you.
>>>
>> motivate them any more. The girls' voices will almost certainly have
>> changed, too. They may well have lost the 'blend' that made them sound
>> so good at the time.
>
> I think you guys must all have been old at the time!
>
> Abba were regarded as pretty rubbish by most of my friends. I remember an
> Abba revival group coming to Aberdeen in the mid 90's and one of our
> members of staff was going along, getting dressed up and really excited
> about it. She said to me it must have been really exciting being around
> when they were on the go. She really didn't believe me when I said most of
> us didn't rate them at all at the time!
I've been trying to think of a single person I knew who were taken in by the
original Europop Muzak Manufacturers and I'm pretty certain there was not a
single one. Not one who would dare admit to it anyway.
Apart from their over-producing (16 track?) souless clonepap even I was
sickened by their relentless mercenary targeting of the brain-dead 13 - 17
year old female record buying market (virtually the only demographic who
were still buying 'singles' back then) in order to stay in the charts and on
TV.
"You are the Dancing Queen , young and sweet, only seventeen".
Dear oh dear oh dear. They should be ashamed of themselves.
Ian Smith
> "Ian Smith" <ianin...@btinternet.naespam.com> wrote in message
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>> I remember Agnetha Fältskog (the blonde lassie) did a new song several
>> years ago, but it had nothing like the punch of the old ABBA hits. I
>> too have a soft spot for them. Almost everything they did is in my
>> music collection. I'm sure they easily do another chart topper.
>
> You sad pathetic old git.
> I might be a sad old git too but at least I was never an Abba fan.
My collection is actually quite diverse; ranging from classical and 40's
big band, through 80's indy and new wave, to some extremely hard-edged
industrial techno. The Swedes are only one small part of it all. There,
did I redeem myself in any way?
conwaycaine
> On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 01:04:12 +1000, "Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble>
> wrote:
>
>>
> Four podgy, middle-aged men who still can't play in tune or in time.
The Sex Pistols are still about?
conwaycaine
"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble> wrote in message
And Custos just mentioned the Sex Pistols.
And now I know your musical genre.
conwaycaine
"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble> wrote in message
You preferred the timeless lyrics of your punk rockers?
Adam Whyte-Settlar
Techno's OK but you blew it with the big band stuff.
Nah - you're still a loser overall.
Adam Whyte-Settlar
Absolutely - some of the punk lyrics are indeed timeless classics.
The test will be in 200 years time. No-one will remember Abba but the Sex
Pistols will be seen as one of the most influential bands of the late 20th
century for sure. Love them or hate them no serious music buff would dispute
that.
conwaycaine
"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble> wrote in message
>>> "You are the Dancing Queen , young and sweet, only seventeen".
>>> Dear oh dear oh dear. They should be ashamed of themselves.
>>
>> You preferred the timeless lyrics of your punk rockers?
>
> Absolutely - some of the punk lyrics are indeed timeless classics.
> The test will be in 200 years time. No-one will remember Abba but the Sex
> Pistols will be seen as one of the most influential bands of the late 20th
> century for sure. Love them or hate them no serious music buff would
> dispute that.
Oh gawd yes!
Little plastic statues of Sid Vicious on every mantle.
(Now I know how you came into bureau diving)
conwaycaine
"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble> wrote in message
> "Ian Smith" <ianin...@btinternet.naespam.com> wrote in message
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>> My collection is actually quite diverse; ranging from classical and 40's
>> big band, through 80's indy and new wave, to some extremely hard-edged
>> industrial techno. The Swedes are only one small part of it all. There,
>> did I redeem myself in any way?
>
> Techno's OK but you blew it with the big band stuff.
> Nah - you're still a loser overall.
At least he does not have a tin ear..................
Ian Smith
finger in the stour:
Tis a blessing to be good at something; even losing. Big band was around
long before me, but I did like hearing it on an oldies radio station,
using a huge valve radio set from the same era. Which I still have.
Wonder if it works; sound quality was excellent. They're going completely
digital in a few years, probably. Must sell the thing while it's still
useful.
Ian Smith
finger in the stour:
> "conwaycaine" <conwa...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
I'd vote for Joy Division/New Order as being up there, somewhere. The
Manchester scene is still alive, thanks in no small way to their
influence; at least judging from a week I spent there last year, and
despite the Hacienda having been closed for many years now (converted to
residential flats).
Just realised I've been speaking fondly about an English city. Ah'll get
ma coat...
deem...@aol.com
> "conwaycaine" <conwayca...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
Manuto, New Kids on the Block, The Backstreet Boys,
N'Sync, 98 Degrees, etc, etc all have levels of sucktitude that ABBA
never dreamed of.....and I haven't even mentioned Britney......
Cory Bhreckan
3/4ths of them anyway, unless Glen Matlock has re-joined them.
Fred J. McCall
:
:I'd vote for Joy Division/New Order as being up there, somewhere.
:
Who?
Ian Smith
finger in the stour:
> Ian Smith <ianin...@btinternet.naespam.com> wrote: :
> :I'd vote for Joy Division/New Order as being up there, somewhere. :
>
> Who?
They started off in the 70's as Joy Division, but after the lead singer
committed suicide, reformed appropriately as New Order. Pioneers of the
independent record movement which sought to end the stranglehold of big
corporations with innovative, quirky, non-conformist music and a
distinctly non-commercial outlook on record production. They exerted a
huge influence on the indy music scene from their base in Manchester. Of
course, they made some money in the process (paid the bills, etc.), but
never really sold out in principle, as most bands are tempted to do. A
few of their songs were used in a number of well-known films, including
some American ones.
Adam Whyte-Settlar
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I wouldn't deny that the above are also over-rated crap but IMO they are not
even in the same league as the original queens of the musical con.
Adam Whyte-Settlar
Valve radios were great for sound quality. I have a friend in the Black Isle
who restores them. Well - 'restores' is probably pushing it a bit - he
cannibalises some to get others working as it's almost impossible to get the
parts these days.
Nothing wrong with valves - Mr Spock even managed to build a basic
time-machine using them.
Adam Whyte-Settlar
It's OK - Manchester was the new Liverpool for a while.
Strange that - the *nglish are pretty crap at most things but one can't deny
that they have been at the forfront of musical innovation for nearly fifty
years now.
Adam Whyte-Settlar
> They started off in the 70's as Joy Division, but after the lead singer
> committed suicide, reformed appropriately as New Order. Pioneers of the
> independent record movement which sought to end the stranglehold of big
> corporations with innovative, quirky, non-conformist music and a
> distinctly non-commercial outlook on record production. They exerted a
> huge influence on the indy music scene from their base in Manchester. Of
> course, they made some money in the process (paid the bills, etc.), but
> never really sold out in principle, as most bands are tempted to do. A
> few of their songs were used in a number of well-known films, including
> some American ones.
Curtis was a big loss right enough.
They were originally had much more of a punk sound but changed radically
once he topped himself.
La N
"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble> wrote in message
Dear Adam:
Were you excited when the Spice Girls made their comeback earlier this year?
- nilita
Adam Whyte-Settlar
"La N" <nilita20...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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They made a comeback? Did they rename the band the Spice Crones perchance?
Fred J. McCall
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:"La N" <nilita20...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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:>
:> Were you excited when the Spice Girls made their comeback earlier this
:
:They made a comeback? Did they rename the band the Spice Crones perchance?
To make a comeback, wouldn't they have had to have been there once?
Hey, I saw Baby Spice doing a spaghetti sauce commercial. She's still
kinda cute...
--
"Well, I met a girl in West Hollywood. I ain't naming names.
She really worked me over good. She was just like Jesse James.
She really worked me over good. She was a credit to her gender.
She put me through some changes, Lord.
Sort of like a Waring blender."
-- Warren Zevon, "Poor, Poor, Pitiful Me"
conwaycaine
"Cory Bhreckan" <coryv...@nospam.verizon.net> wrote in message
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Who were the bunch that wore the silly looking plastic flower pots on their
heads?
Adam Whyte-Settlar
Bill and Ben.
Fred J. McCall
:
:"Cory Bhreckan" <coryv...@nospam.verizon.net> wrote in message
Devo - short for 'Devolution'...
Jim Mason
fmc...@earthlink.net says...
> :Who were the bunch that wore the silly looking plastic flower pots on their
> :heads?
> :
>
> Devo - short for 'Devolution'...
I was at a wedding recently where a member of a popular Scottish beat combo
exchanged vows and the band providing part of the nights entertainment were
a Devo tribute band. They were superb and went down a storm. The band was
called Duty Now.
La N
"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble> wrote in message
One of my favourite shows when I was a kid.
Bill and Ben, Bill and Ben,
Bill and Ben, Bill and Ben, Flowerpot Men.
Flowerpot Men, Flowerpot Men,
Bill and Ben, Bill and Ben, Flowerpot Men.
- nilita
Ian Smith
finger in the stour:
> "Ian Smith" <ianin...@btinternet.naespam.com> wrote in message
Aye, Bernard Sumner's singing abilities were average compared with Curtis
to say the least.
Adam Whyte-Settlar
They were everybodies favourite show. Let's face it - Andy Pandy was a
screaming poof and The Woodentops were middle-class wankers. There *wasn't*
anyone else in the 50's until Pussy Cat Willum came along and blew everyone
away.
> Bill and Ben, Bill and Ben,
>
> Bill and Ben, Bill and Ben, Flowerpot Men.
>
> Flowerpot Men, Flowerpot Men,
>
> Bill and Ben, Bill and Ben, Flowerpot Men.
Gotta love those punk lyrics.
Awplobalob ickle weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeEEEEEeeeeeed.
Still does it for me. And weeeed was a corker.
See for yourself.
http://www.whirligig-tv.co.uk/tv/children/watchwm/fpm_and_weed.jpg
Adam Whyte-Settlar
"Singing abilities"?!
Are talking about the same Bernard Sumner here?
La N
"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble> wrote in message
Sigh .... They don't make shows like that anymore, Adam. The world is going
to hell in a handbasket.
- nilita
Cory Bhreckan
The lyrics to 'Blank Generation' (Richard Hell and the Voidoids) are
classics. So classic in fact that Johnny Rotten stole the concept and
wrote 'Pretty Vacant'.
> The test will be in 200 years time. No-one will remember Abba but the Sex
> Pistols will be seen as one of the most influential bands of the late 20th
> century for sure. Love them or hate them no serious music buff would dispute
> that.
>
>
Adam Whyte-Settlar
> Adam Whyte-Settlar wrote:
>>>> "You are the Dancing Queen , young and sweet, only seventeen".
>>>> Dear oh dear.
> The lyrics to 'Blank Generation' (Richard Hell and the Voidoids) are
> classics. So classic in fact that Johnny Rotten stole the concept and
> wrote 'Pretty Vacant'.
I'm not convinced that Johnny Rotten even grasped the concept of concepts -
especially other peoples concepts.
I've just Googled the lyrics of 'Blank Generation' which I confess I was
unfamiliar with. I see what you mean but it's stretching it a bit to say
that Rotten 'copied' it.
That mood among intelligent disaffected youth was pretty much universal at
the time - brought on by massive overdoses of pure unadulterated Abba and/or
The Osmonds et al. The first rule of ideas is that if you are having an
orginal one you can guarantee that dozens of other people are having the
same idea simultaneously.
conwaycaine
"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble> wrote in message
I seem to remember them being called another name.
Bruce and Bruce, perhaps?
conwaycaine
"Fred J. McCall" <fmc...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> "conwaycaine" <conwa...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
<Snip>
> :Who were the bunch that wore the silly looking plastic flower pots on
> their
> :heads?
> :
>
> Devo - short for 'Devolution'...
Yep! That was them.
I'll bet Adam has a poster of them mounted on his bedroom wall.
Adam Whyte-Settlar
>>> Bill and Ben, Bill and Ben, Flowerpot Men.
> Sigh .... They don't make shows like that anymore, Adam. The world is
> going to hell in a handbasket.
One of those woven things - vegetables for the gathering of?
Did you know that the BBC actually *lost* Bill and Ben for years?
It's enough to make one refuse to pay one's license fee.
Happily they were discovered years later - utterly exhausted - in Looby
Loo's trunk.
She was always *such* a tart that Looby Loo.
Adam Whyte-Settlar
Right next to my picture of Looby Loo in fact.
Cory Bhreckan
Some of us started off the '70s with the likes of Alice Cooper and The
Stooges and then drifted to Roxy Music rather than do more than laugh at
the likes of Abba, The Osmonds and The Bee Gees. Punk wasn't much of a
shift for us.
Ian Smith
finger in the stour:
> "Ian Smith" <ianin...@btinternet.naespam.com> wrote in message
> news:48839473$0$6436$9a6e...@unlimited.newshosting.com...
>> On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 13:23:55 +1000, Adam Whyte-Settlar scrievit this wi
>> a finger in the stour:
>>
>>> "Ian Smith" <ianin...@btinternet.naespam.com> wrote in message
>>> news:48828418$0$25994$9a6e...@unlimited.newshosting.com...
>>>
>>>> They started off in the 70's as Joy Division, but after the lead
>>>> singer committed suicide, reformed appropriately as New Order.
>>>> Pioneers of the independent record movement which sought to end the
>>>> stranglehold of big corporations with innovative, quirky,
>>>> non-conformist music and a distinctly non-commercial outlook on
>>>> record production. They exerted a huge influence on the indy music
>>>> scene from their base in Manchester. Of course, they made some money
>>>> in the process (paid the bills, etc.), but never really sold out in
>>>> principle, as most bands are tempted to do. A few of their songs were
>>>> used in a number of well-known films, including some American ones.
>>>
>>>
>>> Curtis was a big loss right enough.
>>> They were originally had much more of a punk sound but changed
>>> radically once he topped himself.
>>
>> Aye, Bernard Sumner's singing abilities were average compared with
>> Curtis to say the least.
>
> "Singing abilities"?!
> Are talking about the same Bernard Sumner here?
Aye, was being sarcastic. I swear it; he sounded positively bored and it
often seemed like he struggled to actually finish a song. One of their
tracks appeared to make fun of him by a well-timed voice mute halfway
through. I think it was a remix of "Round and Round".
A lot of other indy bands carried on with the crap singing tradition.
Happy Mondays, for one example. Thought my cassette player was broken
first time I listened to them.
soup
> Who were the bunch that wore the silly looking plastic flower pots on their
> heads?
Devo
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=rxH39QlRuhg
--
'S rioghal mo dhream
www.cheesesoup.myby.co.uk
conwaycaine
"soup" <1...@invalid.com> wrote in message
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Thanks, soup.
Our younger members are reminiscing about some of the social misfits of
their youth, claiming their music is well nigh immortal.
I doubt our descendants will lay down Beethoven for the Sex Pistols or Devo.
La N
"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble> wrote in message
Well, I figured they must've been misplaced because. *poof* they were gone,
and so I had to turn my attention to another CBC stable, The Friendly Giant.
But, THANKS TO YOU I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET THE BILL AND BEN FLOWERPOT MEN
SONG OUT OF MY HEAD! *$&)*( &)DH&Y#^%760
love 4ever or at least until Conway calls an end to the latest Adam luvfest,
- nilita
Adam Whyte-Settlar
Awflobbadob.
Remember the question on everyone's lips at the end of each Wednesday
session?
Was it Biiiiiill or was it Beeeeeeen? Sung in that 1950's cut glass BBC
standard voiceover. Long before those revolting working class parochial
accents were permitted to pollute the airwaves.
Adam Whyte-Settlar
I remember when Alice Cooper ran for POTUS. "Alice Cooper is hope" was his
campaign slogan.
I agree Roxy Music live was an absolutely class act when they managed to hit
the zone.
conwaycaine
"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble> wrote in message
All on a Saturday night?
conwaycaine
> "Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble> wrote in message
>> Did you know that the BBC actually *lost* Bill and Ben for years?
>> It's enough to make one refuse to pay one's license fee.
>> Happily they were discovered years later - utterly exhausted - in Looby
>> Loo's trunk.
>> She was always *such* a tart that Looby Loo.
>>
>>
>
> Well, I figured they must've been misplaced because. *poof* they were
> gone, and so I had to turn my attention to another CBC stable, The
> Friendly Giant. But, THANKS TO YOU I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET THE BILL AND
> BEN FLOWERPOT MEN SONG OUT OF MY HEAD! *$&)*( &)DH&Y#^%760
>
> love 4ever or at least until Conway calls an end to the latest Adam
> luvfest,
> - nilita
Consider this Adam's farewell eulogy as he prepares to raft the Pacific in
his version of Kon Tiki.
People, you'd best address the auld gaffer whilst you can.
deem...@aol.com
> "La N" <nilita2004NOS...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
I'm sure Easter Island will be safe...for a few more
years.
La N
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**************************
Thor Heyerdahl came around my part of the world to work a bit to pay for the
Kon Tiki expedition. I wonder if we'll see Adam around the 'hood scratching
in the dirt for money?
- nilita
deem...@aol.com
> <deemsb...@aol.com> wrote in message
I thought that's what his, uh, horticultural endeavors were
for......
Cory Bhreckan
He also used "A troubled man for trounbled times".
> I agree Roxy Music live was an absolutely class act when they managed to hit
> the zone.
Very much so, very refined. The Stooges on the other hand were raw power.
La N
"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble> wrote in message
http://youtube.com/watch?v=hcF9JSxkUSE
Sniff .....
- nilita, singing .. memories ... trapped between the cobwebs of my mind ...
tra la la ....
Charles Ellson
wrote:
There's distinct lack of any plot in this episode. :-(
conwaycaine
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On Jul 22, 8:41 am, "conwaycaine" <conwayca...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> "La N" <nilita2004NOS...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> his version of Kon Tiki.
> People, you'd best address the auld gaffer whilst you can.
I'm sure Easter Island will be safe...for a few more
years.
*************
Those stone statues do bear a strong resemblance to old Adam, especially
about the nose.
Perhaps he is off to visit kinsmen.
Adam Whyte-Settlar
>
> "Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble> wrote in message
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>>
>> "La N" <nilita20...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>>>
>>> "Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble> wrote in message
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>>>>
>>>> "La N" <nilita20...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>>>>
>>>>>>> Bill and Ben, Bill and Ben, Flowerpot Men.
>> Sung in that 1950's cut glass BBC standard voiceover. Long before those
>> revolting working class parochial accents were permitted to pollute the
>> airwaves.
>>
>
> http://youtube.com/watch?v=hcF9JSxkUSE
>
> Sniff .....
: ) Absolutely Brilliant!
It's astonishing that, though I haven't seen them for close on fifty years,
it seems like only yesterday once reminded.
In fact I'm now almost recovered from the 'service' in my local 'hardware
shop'. Only half an hour ago I was seriously weighing up if would be worth
being jailed then deported for the sweet pleasure of busting the
'assistant's' fat lips all over his surly Dago puss.
Now, thanks to flobadob therapy, the adrenaline is subsiding and I realise
it would have been a hasty over-reaction.
My new plan is to crack him over the head from behind so he won't know it
was me. Not quite so gratifying as smashing his face in but it's balanced by
the lack of dire consequence.
So thanks for that.
Adam Whyte-Settlar
>
> All on a Saturday night?
Not *that* Looby Lou.
*This* Looby Lou.
http://www.barnsleyandfamily.com/andypandy2.jpg
She's the one in the short skirt having her arse felt by Andy Pandy.
Adam Whyte-Settlar
> Happy Mondays, for one example. Thought my cassette player was broken
> first time I listened to them.
Sure sign of a good band that.
conwaycaine
"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble> wrote in message
>>> Right next to my picture of Looby Lou in fact.
>>
>> All on a Saturday night?
>
> Not *that* Looby Lou.
> *This* Looby Lou.
>
> http://www.barnsleyandfamily.com/andypandy2.jpg
>
> She's the one in the short skirt having her arse felt by Andy Pandy.
And this is where you guys go for entertainment on a dull Aussie evening?
(BTW, why do you Brits insist on pronouncing "Loopty Loop" as "Looby Lou"?)
La N
"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble> wrote in message
Adam, you truly have a gentle heart ....It's no wonder Conway goes soft on
you from time to time ...
- nilita
Adam Whyte-Settlar
Possibly because they've never heard of 'Loopty Loop'. Is it something to
with the Red Arrows?
conwaycaine
>
> "Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble> wrote in message
>> In fact I'm now almost recovered from the 'service' in my local 'hardware
>> shop'. Only half an hour ago I was seriously weighing up if would be
>> worth being jailed then deported for the sweet pleasure of busting the
>> 'assistant's' fat lips all over his surly Dago puss.
>> Now, thanks to flobadob therapy, the adrenaline is subsiding and I
>> realise it would have been a hasty over-reaction.
>> My new plan is to crack him over the head from behind so he won't know it
>> was me. Not quite so gratifying as smashing his face in but it's balanced
>> by the lack of dire consequence.
>> So thanks for that.
>>
>>
>
> Adam, you truly have a gentle heart ....It's no wonder Conway goes soft on
> you from time to time ...
Kind AND gracious is our Adam.
Let's wish him well on his rafting expedition to the Great Barrier Reef.
(And all the Great Whites went "Burp")
conwaycaine
"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble> wrote in message
Is that another of your half demented punk rock groups.
(BTW, Blondi is still going strong. You do like Blondi?)