"Sexism is rife in Inverness"
Adam Whyte-Settlar
By Jenna MacCulloch
Published: 05 November, 2009
FURIOUS revellers have hit out at a city nightspot's new rule which bans men
with uncovered tattoos on their forearms from entering the club.
But the same rule currently being enforced by management at Love2Love
nightclub on Castle Street, Inverness, does not appear to apply to women who
have body art on their arms or wrists.
The Highland News has has been contacted by a number of unhappy customers
who believe the new rule is a form of "discrimination".
However, management at Love2Love this week refused to confirm or deny the
existence of the rule.
Robert Murray (20) spoke to the HN after he was turned away on Saturday
night because of his tattoo, which illustrates seven stars and is located on
his arm.
"I go to Love2Love most weekends," he said. "On Saturday night, I was
wearing what I always wear, which is jeans and a T-shirt. But when I got to
the door to get in, I was told that I wasn't allowed through the door
because of my tattoo, which was on show."
Mr Murray, of Galloway Drive, Culloden, explained that he had never heard of
the rule.
"I couldn't understand it, because it's not like my tattoo is offensive or
anything like it, and it's never happened before," he said.
"But the bouncers were trying to get my friend, who was with me at the time,
to lend me his shirt but it wouldn't fit anyway."
But Mr Murray was left even more stunned when his friend, Fiona McDonald
(19), asked bouncers if she was also going to be refused entry because of
her tattoo.
"Fiona has a tattoo on her wrist which was on display and wasn't covered
up - so she asked the bouncers if the same rule applied to her.
"But they said it wasn't a problem, which makes it look like its one rule
for girls and another for boys, which seems pretty sexist."
Extremely angry, Mr Murray was forced to go all the way back home to put on
a long-sleeved shirt, so he would be allowed to go clubbing with his
friends.
"Luckily one of my friends wasn't drinking and had his car," he said. "So I
had to go all the way home and get changed, and managed to get back in. It
just seems really stupid to me.
"When I turned 18, it was my legal right to chose whether to have a tattoo
and I don't understand why a small nightclub in Inverness would choose to
have this rule."
His friend Ms McDonald said: "I asked the bouncer if the same rule applied
to me, and they told me I was okay. That seems totally unfair to me.
"I was really annoyed because Robert is not someone who would ever cause
trouble and the fact that he wasn't allowed through the door because he had
a tattoo was really bad.
"I just don't understand the new rule and I was really angry about it on the
night."
She added: "And if bouncers or management are going to start a new rule then
there should be posters letting customers know about it, so they don't queue
for ages, then are turned away at the door."
Another clubber contacted the HN and said: "This subject sparked a heated
conversation in the office, as some people believe it is not fair to
discriminate against people with tattoos. Will they turn you away for having
your ears stretched too?
"I personally think it is an outrage that people can be turned away from the
city hotspot for having art tattooed on their arm."
Paul McGregor, manager at Love2Love nightclub, told the HN: "Management
reserve the right to refuse admission. That is all I am saying on the
matter.
"We will deal with people on a person to person basis.
"Because you work for a newspaper, I'm not going to discuss it with you.
"All I will say is that management reserve the right to refuse entry."
Sexism is rife in Inverness
deem...@aol.com
Eh, they can do it for the same reason they can have "Ladies'
Night".....get enough women and the guys will come no matter what.
La N
I remember being invited to The Shark Club in a nice part of Vancouver a
couple of years ago. Ladies were allowed in Free. Men were charged $10.00
admission. It's a gimmick that worked.
- nilita
deem...@aol.com
Women.....half the money and all the p*ssy. No wonder they run
things :-)
The Phantom Piper
>
> Women.....half the money and all the p*ssy.
> No wonder they run things :-)
The reason they have Half The Money is
that they *don't* run things.
It's the same reason we have All The War.
Correcting The Record,
The Phantom Piper
HardySpicer
wrote:
Why do Women have Pussy?
Cos men wouldn't talk to them if they didn't!
deem...@aol.com
> "La N" <nilita2004NOS...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> :
> :I remember being invited to The Shark Club in a nice part of Vancouver a
> :couple of years ago. Ladies were allowed in Free. Men were charged $10.00
> :admission. It's a gimmick that worked.
>
> It's also very infrequently done these days, at least in this country,
> since it's a lawsuit waiting to happen.
>
I pity the poor schmuck that sues. He gets a jury full of women
who think he's an ass and men who think he's gay.
La N
I got the impression this was a rare "Ladies Night" occasion, perhaps to
bring in more business on a slow (Tuesday) night.
deem...@aol.com
> "deemsb...@aol.com" <deemsb...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> There were a fair number of those suits filed (and won) over the last
> few decades.
>
I know. I blame leftist-commie-gay-faggot-rightard-assholes.
The Phantom Piper
>
> Why do Women have Pussy?
>
> Cos men wouldn't talk to them if they didn't!
Still making friends Everywhere, are you Heid?
Shaking My Head,
The Phantom Piper
Adam Whyte-Settlar
<deem...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Hey - women started all this equal rights BS.
If they don't want equality they should have stayed where they belong.
HardySpicer
> <deemsb...@aol.com> wrote in message
In the kitchen?
Fifeshire Floozie
> <deem...@aol.com> wrote
>> "deemsb...@aol.com" <deemsb...@aol.com> wrote:
>> :On Nov 6, 11:09 pm, Fred J. McCall <fjmcc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> :> "La N" <nilita2004NOS...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> : I pity the poor schmuck that sues. He gets a jury full of women
>> :who think he's an ass and men who think he's gay.
>>
>> There were a fair number of those suits filed (and won) over the
>> last
>> few decades.
>
> I know. I blame leftist-commie-gay-faggot-rightard-assholes.
>
> Hey - women started all this equal rights BS.
> If they don't want equality they should have stayed where they
> belong.
Allan
"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble> wrote in message
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> The Highland News.
>
> By Jenna MacCulloch
> Published: 05 November, 2009
>
>
> FURIOUS revellers have hit out at a city nightspot's new rule which bans
> men
> with uncovered tattoos on their forearms from entering the club.
It is closed now but not all that long ago (ie the 1980s or so) the Fleece
Hotel in Selkirk wouldn't serve women with pint glasses. If they wanted a
pint of lager they had to buy two half pints instead. If they were buying a
round of drinks for a male friend they could hit a problem and the guy would
have to go up to the bar to show it was for him. It was run by a reactionary
old nitwit who obviously mustn't have liked the look of women sitting with
big glasses.
Allan
Adam Whyte-Settlar
"Allan" <al...@noemail.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> "Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble> wrote in message
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>> The Highland News.
>>
>> By Jenna MacCulloch
>> Published: 05 November, 2009
>>
>>
>> FURIOUS revellers have hit out at a city nightspot's new rule which bans
>> men
>> with uncovered tattoos on their forearms from entering the club.
>
> It is closed now but not all that long ago (ie the 1980s or so) the Fleece
> Hotel in Selkirk wouldn't serve women with pint glasses.
It wasn't the only one.
A lot of the women I've been out with drank pints and I remember them having
the same hassle in one or two places.
I can't for the life of me remember where though.
It was obvious there would be all sorts of trouble when they began letting
women into bars.
Whatever next.
Nebulous
wrote:
The Grill Bar in Aberdeen didn't allow women in until they were taken
to court. A bit of the story is here:-
http://www.aboutaberdeen.com/the_grill_bar_oldest_aberdeen_pub_union_street.php
When I first visited in the early 80's there was a sign which said:-
"women are not really welcome in this pub, but if they must come in we
would like to point out that there are no toilet facilities for them."
That webpage says they didn't get female toilets until 1998!
Other than it being a traditional men's pub it is characterised by a
beautiful hardwood interior.
http://www.scotlandwhisky.com/Great-scotch-whisky-bars/1098086
I once took a colleague there who had been a dealer in exotic
hardwoods in a previous life. He was remarkably impressed, not just
with the quality of the wood, but with how well crafted the veneers
were. He insisted they were made in a particular way which was
difficult to achieve but which showed the wood to its best effect.
Neb
Robert Peffers
"Nebulous" <ja...@pigtail.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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and furnishings recovered from old scrapped liners and even warships. I
spent a couple of years working on refits of colonial class cruisers,
(Bermuda, Gambia, Jamaica, Kenya,Mauritius, Nigeria, Uganda), are the ones I
remember. These were WWII cruisers that were refitted and some retained by
The RN and some sold. As they were then used partly for UK ambassadorial
duties the after ends had special treatment. The Ward Room, The Captains and
Admirals quarters took up the entire after end together with galleys, cold
rooms and other storage. The wood panelling, recessed lighting, furnishings,
carpets and curtains were of the highest quality. They had to be seen to be
believed. The foredeck also had special treatment with oak decking, canvas
canopies and special paint jobs for the forward gun turrets. Mind you they
were still fighting ships and were equipped with the best armaments and
electronic warfare aids that it was possible to fit.
When these ships decommissioned and were sent to scrapyards the many hotels,
pubs restaurants and such like had a field day. The woods used for the
panels were selected by the Admirals and Captains who were to command the
refitted ships and such woods as Bird's eye Maple were used lavishly.
--
Auld Bob
Adam Whyte-Settlar
Yeah - I remember that sign. Though I don't remember it as being so polite.
Maybe they rewrote by the 1980's.
A few pubs used the 'no toilets' excuse for a long time IIRC. A couple in
Dundee spring to mind.
> Other than it being a traditional men's pub it is characterised by a
> beautiful hardwood interior.
>
> http://www.scotlandwhisky.com/Great-scotch-whisky-bars/1098086
>
> I once took a colleague there who had been a dealer in exotic
> hardwoods in a previous life. He was remarkably impressed, not just
> with the quality of the wood, but with how well crafted the veneers
> were. He insisted they were made in a particular way which was
> difficult to achieve but which showed the wood to its best effect.
Don't think I was I was ever in it, I just remember the sign.
I used to go to a couple of pubs that were up near the top of Union Street
and down a side-street to the left somewhere a couple of hundred yards.
I can't remember the names now ( I keep thinking of 'Highland Hotel' but it
seems unlikely for an Aberdeen pub?) but they were two of the very few pubs
in Aberdeen that had live bands at the weekends and used to overflow into
the street they were that packed.
Quite good craic for Aberdeen. About the only craic there was as I remember
it. That was about 1974-75 though
Nebulous
wrote:
I don't go back that far. I also preferrred the other end of Union
Street, not the posh bit.
A few suggestions come to mind:-
The Bells hotel - on Union Street, though cleverly it could be entered
by a rear door as well. It took me eff** **** (a long time) to
recognise they were both the same place.
Or if you were really being posh-
The Huntly Hotel
or even
The Caledonian Hotel (The Caley)
The idea of " The Highland Hotel" in Aberdeen is a cracker though.
You could hoover up all the maudlin teuchters, with a bit of money to
spare, and the tourists at the same time.
Neb
Adam Whyte-Settlar
It's all relative. To me the so-called 'posh' bits were really slumming it
compared to what I was used to in *ngland.
> A few suggestions come to mind:-
>
> The Bells hotel - on Union Street, though cleverly it could be entered
> by a rear door as well. It took me eff** **** (a long time) to
> recognise they were both the same place.
Yeah - I've been in there a few times.
> Or if you were really being posh-
>
> The Huntly Hotel
>
> or even
>
> The Caledonian Hotel (The Caley)
>
> The idea of " The Highland Hotel" in Aberdeen is a cracker though.
Yeah - that's what I'm thinking. Don't know why it rings a bell but it does.
I think they might have been on Dee Street?