Oil Painting
Dennis Guertin
they're picked up by the garbagemen.
I threw what I thought was a paper print into the car and
realized only when I unloaded it that it was an actual oil
painting.
Now, my only reason for contacting this group is that I notice that
the two gentlemen standing in the foreground of the painting
are wearing kilts but the landscape is nothing I, as a poor
Canadian ignoramus, associate with my limited knowledge
of the geography of Scotland.
Would you know if the painting actually is a location in
Scotland? Perhaps you know someone who might know?
Please see:
http://www.guertin.com/transfer/scotland1.html
Thank you for your time.
Murchadh
wrote:
I tried, but all I get is:
"The page cannot be displayed".
Helen Ramsay
> On 23 Oct 2003 18:13:43 -0700, dgue...@guertin.com (Dennis Guertin) wrote
> >Would you know if the painting actually is a location in
> >Scotland? Perhaps you know someone who might know?
> >
> >Please see:
> >
> > http://www.guertin.com/transfer/scotland1.html
> >
> >Thank you for your time.
>
> I tried, but all I get is:
>
> "The page cannot be displayed".
Worked for me, but I haven't a clue where it would be :( Maybe you should
try it again.
Cheers, Helen
ejaycee
"Dennis Guertin" <dgue...@guertin.com> wrote in message
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> I am in the habit of salvaging picture frames before
> they're picked up by the garbagemen.
> Scotland? Perhaps you know someone who might know?
>
> Please see:
>
> http://www.guertin.com/transfer/scotland1.html
>
> Thank you for your time.
I would say it is someone's romantic idea of Scotland.
You take a castle, a few mountains, stick in a small cottage and put
in a couple of men in kilts. Called artistic licence [g]
The castle looks nothing like any of the castles I've seen
For a minute I thought the figures might actually be Hobbits
Does it have the artists name anywhere?
Glenallan
Doubt if the mountain in the background is in Scotland or even UK.
It is much too high. Reminiscent of Matterhorn. Castle perched on cliff
edge is not very typical of Scotland.
Try Austria or Southern Germany
Adam Whyte-Settlar
> Would you know if the painting actually is a location in
> Scotland? Perhaps you know someone who might know?
>
> Please see:
>
> http://www.guertin.com/transfer/scotland1.html
>
> Thank you for your time.
It's not Scotland - not from real life anyway.
I was wondering if it might be something to do with a British military
campaign somewhere 'abroad'.
Canada even.
But nothing about it suggests Scotland to me - the rocks are all wrong - the
mountain is too high and not eroded in a manner typical of Scottish
mountains and Iv'e never seen a castle like that either. The cottage is also
wrong - the windows would be lower, the walls thicker and the roof would
overhang more.
Product of a fertile imagination from someone that has never been to
Scotland I would guess.
A W-S
PS. Its ghastly too - I'll take it off your hands for a fiver.
Lesley Robertson
"Dennis Guertin" <dgue...@guertin.com> wrote in message
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>
> Scotland? Perhaps you know someone who might know?
>
imagination, they're too young. You could consider a colony - New Zealand?
The shapes of the hills reminded me of southern China. Or a fevered
imagination....
Lesley Robertson
Adam Whyte-Settlar
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>
> "Dennis Guertin" <dgue...@guertin.com> wrote in message
> news:1c0364ab.03102...@posting.google.com...
> >
> > Would you know if the painting actually is a location in
> > Scotland? Perhaps you know someone who might know?
> >
> It's not Scotland - if those mountains are drawn from life rather than
> imagination, they're too young. You could consider a colony - New Zealand?
With a castle like that?
In New Zealand anything over 90 years old is labelled 'historic'.
In fact Madra would be an ancient national monument.
Maori history is of course ignored.
A W-S
Murchadh
wrote:
I got in, but I can't identify the locale, although there is a
familiarity about it which makes me feel it's a real place.
S Viemeister
> But nothing about it suggests Scotland to me - the rocks are all wrong - the
> mountain is too high and not eroded in a manner typical of Scottish
> mountains and Iv'e never seen a castle like that either. The cottage is also
> wrong - the windows would be lower, the walls thicker and the roof would
> overhang more.
>
And that chimney is wrong, too.
Sheila
ZsaZsa
As a Canadian, the rock formations, and the forested mountain area may
suggest that you look in Quebec along the St Lawrence or Richelieu Rivers
for ruins of forts. The kilts make me think that you might do a search for
kilted regiments in early Canada.
Murchadh
Exactly! That's where I've sen those formations - the St Lawrence
seaway. I came up it around Newfoundland and Anticosti Island, all the
way to Montreal.
Adam Whyte-Settlar
"Murchadh" <murc...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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Crossed my mind too. When we (Britain) beat the crap out of the cowardly
evil-smelling Frogs at Quebec it was at a fort in a position like the one
illustrated I believe. On cliffs that were 'impossible' for an army to scale
I seem to recall.
I don't know for sure but if history is anything to go by it would have been
a Highland regiment that was first in too.
If you look at the close up of the bunnet it looks as though it has a
chequered band around it - isn't that the insignia of some regiment or
other?
A W-S
A W-S
Glenallan
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Hmm. Dunno....there is what looks like a
helicopter to the right of the distant mountain.
I'll need a day or two to examine this.
G
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ZsaZsa
"Glenallan" <glen...@msn.com> wrote in message
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Make sure you are wearing your tinfoil hat.
Lesley Robertson
Have you got castles like that? It looks like a cross between crusader,
Moorish and Walt Disney.....
Lesley Robertson
Adam Whyte-Settlar
> > I don't know for sure but if history is anything to go by it would have
> been
> > a Highland regiment that was first in too.
> > If you look at the close up of the bunnet it looks as though it has a
> > chequered band around it - isn't that the insignia of some regiment or
> > other?
> > A W-S
> Hmm. Dunno....there is what looks like a
> helicopter to the right of the distant mountain.
: ))
> I'll need a day or two to examine this.
Yeah - take your time Glenallan - take your time.
A W-S
Adam Whyte-Settlar
Exactly - definitely Spanish.
A W-S
> Lesley Robertson
>
>
Lesley Robertson
>
> "Lesley Robertson" <l.a.ro...@tnw.tudelft.nl> wrote in message
> news:bndf1h$o8q$1...@news.tudelft.nl...
> > Moorish and Walt Disney.....
>
> Exactly - definitely Spanish.
I didn't know that WD was Spanish! The things you learn on scs!
Lesley Robertson
Josiah Jenkins
Whyte-Settlar" <grawi...@hotmail.com> :
<snip>
>If you look at the close up of the bunnet it looks as though it has a
>chequered band around it - isn't that the insignia of some regiment or
>other?
Glesga polis ?
-- The Despicable Stewart
-- Perfidious Alban
-- http://www.ian-stewart.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/informer.htm
Adam Whyte-Settlar
"Josiah Jenkins" <scs-in...@pap.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 11:56:09 +1300, I read these words from "Adam
> Whyte-Settlar" <grawi...@hotmail.com> :
>
> <snip>
> >If you look at the close up of the bunnet it looks as though it has a
> >chequered band around it - isn't that the insignia of some regiment or
> >other?
>
> Glesga polis ?
Bugger!
You're right!
It must be Loch Lomond efter aw.
A W-S
Murchadh
The chequered band is a Stewart mark of kingship and can be seen on
their coat of arms. Like chief's badges, it was worn by soldiers to
show that they were the King's men. Today it is worn as an authority
symbol in many jurisdictions to identify policemen.
http://www.eradesigns.co.uk/stewart.gif
Murchadh
They're all French from the 1600s-1700s.
Murchadh
His name was originally Galtierro Dísnez, which explains the original
corporate slogan - Ą Dísnez, heem good for beeznezz !
Josiah Jenkins
Whyte-Settlar" <grawi...@hotmail.com> :
>
>"Josiah Jenkins" <scs-in...@pap.com> wrote in message
>news:ajjkpv4p8iht1jap8...@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 11:56:09 +1300, I read these words from "Adam
>> Whyte-Settlar" <grawi...@hotmail.com> :
>>
>> <snip>
>> >If you look at the close up of the bunnet it looks as though it has a
>> >chequered band around it - isn't that the insignia of some regiment or
>> >other?
>>
>> Glesga polis ?
>
>Bugger!
>You're right!
>It must be Loch Lomond efter aw.
Och your right, man, hit iss, hit iss !
Looking ohfer the loch from Palmaha ?
And thi whun on the left, iss that not pig Tonal' Campbell
from Poisdale ? A fine chentulman if effer there woss wun !
Murchadh
You write remarkably readable Highland dialect - you should consider
doing it professionally for the Scottish Parliament. It would save
everyone having to learn Gaelic, but the essential flavour would be
fully preserved!
Jim Stewart
Adam Whyte-Settlar wrote:
Awe, its Chicago by the hatband....
Jim Stewart
Josiah Jenkins
murc...@shaw.ca (Murchadh) :
>On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 17:43:27 GMT, Josiah Jenkins
><scs-in...@pap.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 01:38:35 +1300, I read these words from "Adam
>>Whyte-Settlar" <grawi...@hotmail.com> :
>>
>>>
>>>"Josiah Jenkins" <scs-in...@pap.com> wrote in message
>>>news:ajjkpv4p8iht1jap8...@4ax.com...
>>>> On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 11:56:09 +1300, I read these words from "Adam
>>>> Whyte-Settlar" <grawi...@hotmail.com> :
>>>>
>>>> <snip>
>>>> >If you look at the close up of the bunnet it looks as though it has a
>>>> >chequered band around it - isn't that the insignia of some regiment or
>>>> >other?
>>>>
>>>> Glesga polis ?
>>>
>>>Bugger!
>>>You're right!
>>>It must be Loch Lomond efter aw.
>>
>>Och your right, man, hit iss, hit iss !
>>Looking ohfer the loch from Palmaha ?
>>And thi whun on the left, iss that not pig Tonal' Campbell
>>from Poisdale ? A fine chentulman if effer there woss wun !
>>
>>-- The Despicable Stewart
>>-- Perfidious Alban
>>-- http://www.ian-stewart.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/informer.htm
>
>You write remarkably readable Highland dialect -
Och man, shurely hits a khift I haff, hall those Para Handy programmes
on the telefission when I wass a poy. Then there wass two choiners
I hused to know, Malcolm and Malcolm, who had come town to
Clascoh from the Islands and poath hat the Gaelic.
>
>you should consider doing it professionally for the Scottish Parliament.
>It would save everyone having to learn Gaelic, but the essential flavour
>would be fully preserved!
I think not. It takes about three times as long trying to get the
phoenitics sounding right as it does to type standard *nglish.
It doesn't seem to matter whether it's the Gaelic, German or
Glaswegian, you have to "hear" it in your head several times
before you can "spell" it to sound right and half the time you
end up "spelling" it differently from the time before.
Much like the problem some seem to have with Scots !!!
DARF !
Murchadh
<scs-in...@pap.com> wrote:
And in the case of this group, *nglish, as in AW-S' claim that
"rooves" is the plural of roof!
Ian Morrison
> And in the case of this group, *nglish, as in AW-S' claim that
> "rooves" is the plural of roof!
IIRC, the plural of the almost extinct word "poof" was "pooves". That's
probably what AW-S was thinking ove.
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Ian Morrison
> Maori history is of course ignored.
Two words for you, AW-S: Te Papa.
Glenallan
"Ian Morrison" <iomor...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> "Murchadh" <murc...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> IIRC, the plural of the almost extinct word "poof" was "pooves". That's
> probably what AW-S was thinking ove.
'Poofter' is alive and well in Glesga.
You can't PC a Glaswegian. We're no' daft.
Poof, Poofter, Shirt lifter, Dung Stabber...we don't care.
G
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Murchadh
<iomor...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>"Murchadh" <murc...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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>
>> And in the case of this group, *nglish, as in AW-S' claim that
>> "rooves" is the plural of roof!
>
>IIRC, the plural of the almost extinct word "poof" was "pooves". That's
>probably what AW-S was thinking ove.
>
>------
>Ian O.
I think "pooves" was a Private Eye invention. It was a standard insult
for any group the editor disliked.
Adam Whyte-Settlar
> "Adam Whyte-Settlar" <grawi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:v47mb.2896$ws.2...@news02.tsnz.net
>
> > Maori history is of course ignored.
>
> Two words for you, AW-S: Te Papa.
Mere tokenism. It took 100 years and an act of parliament to open a museum
whcih included Moari history.
It was finally acheived about 4 years ago.
In a general and local sense Maori history is still largely ignored.
Practically every 'historic site' in these parts is concerned with events
relating to the the discovery and colonisation by Euaropeans
About 8 miles along the road from me here on the Banks Peninsular is one of
the oldest and most important Maori settlements in the South Island and I
had been living here for nearly 9 months before I even heard of it.
A W-S
Adam Whyte-Settlar
> "Murchadh" <murc...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:3f9d2352.5103047@news
>
> > And in the case of this group, *nglish, as in AW-S' claim that
> > "rooves" is the plural of roof!
>
> IIRC, the plural of the almost extinct word "poof" was "pooves". That's
> probably what AW-S was thinking ove.
I believe that you already suspect that I wasn't being entirely serious.
A W-S
Glenallan
Why are you in New Zealand.?
Nobody ever goes there.
Are you Lord Lucan.?
G
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Ian Morrison
>
> "Ian Morrison" <iomor...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:e2c4547b9c25eba4be...@mygate.mailgate.org...
> > Two words for you, AW-S: Te Papa.
>
> Mere tokenism. It took 100 years and an act of parliament to open a museum
> whcih included Moari history.
I'm not sure that there is much about the history of the Moa in Te Papa,
but I did hear a talk by its Director recently, and its objectives seem
to be far more profound than mere "tokenism". In fact, so
Maori-orientated is the place that I began to feel there was rather too
much of one particular kind of spirituality for comfort in a museum
context. As you know, I am uncomfortable with all faiths, including the
Maori one, and I don't think museums are appropriate places to present
religious ideology. Apart from that, it seemed like an interesting
place.
> It was finally acheived about 4 years ago.
1998, according to its Director - same as the Museum of Scotland.
> In a general and local sense Maori history is still largely ignored.
> Practically every 'historic site' in these parts is concerned with events
> relating to the the discovery and colonisation by Euaropeans
> About 8 miles along the road from me here on the Banks Peninsular is one of
> the oldest and most important Maori settlements in the South Island and I
> had been living here for nearly 9 months before I even heard of it.
There are lots of such sites (admittedly not Maori ones) in the
Highlands and Islands. Running the museum in Forres, I would quite
frequently get local people coming in and saying "I didn't know there
was a museum here". You know how big Forres is, and probably that the
museum is situated bang in the middle of the town. There's none so
blind....
Adam Whyte-Settlar
Don't tell anyone though.
A W-S
Adam Whyte-Settlar
> "Adam Whyte-Settlar" <grawi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> >
> > "Ian Morrison" <iomor...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:e2c4547b9c25eba4be...@mygate.mailgate.org...
>
> > > Two words for you, AW-S: Te Papa.
> >
> > Mere tokenism. It took 100 years and an act of parliament to open a
museum
>
> I'm not sure that there is much about the history of the Moa in Te Papa,
> but I did hear a talk by its Director recently, and its objectives seem
> to be far more profound than mere "tokenism".
I mean the presence of that *particular* museum - it is a concessionary
peice.
No other museum deals with Moari history to anything like the same degree.
> In fact, so
> Maori-orientated is the place that I began to feel there was rather too
> much of one particular kind of spirituality for comfort in a museum
> context. As you know, I am uncomfortable with all faiths, including the
> Maori one, and I don't think museums are appropriate places to present
> religious ideology. Apart from that, it seemed like an interesting
> place.
>
> > It was finally acheived about 4 years ago.
>
> 1998, according to its Director - same as the Museum of Scotland.
Well? That *is* about 4 years ago. 5 is 'about 4' isn't it? Not a bad guess
for a white pig.
>
> > In a general and local sense Maori history is still largely ignored.
> > Practically every 'historic site' in these parts is concerned with
events
> > relating to the the discovery and colonisation by Euaropeans
> > About 8 miles along the road from me here on the Banks Peninsular is one
of
> > the oldest and most important Maori settlements in the South Island and
I
> > had been living here for nearly 9 months before I even heard of it.
>
> There are lots of such sites (admittedly not Maori ones) in the
> Highlands and Islands. Running the museum in Forres, I would quite
> frequently get local people coming in and saying "I didn't know there
> was a museum here". You know how big Forres is, and probably that the
> museum is situated bang in the middle of the town. There's none so
> blind....
>
In the case of this particular ex-settlement it is just a few mounds on the
ground with not so much as a brass plaque to indicate what it once was -
which was the largest Moari 'town' in the South Island. They got eaten by
the neighbours I'm pleased to relate - improved the value of our property
considerably did that.
I read about it in a history book and went looking for the site.
A W-S
Ian Morrison
> Well? That *is* about 4 years ago. 5 is 'about 4' isn't it? Not a bad guess
> for a white pig.
That depends on what margin of error you consider acceptable. In this
case, I thought a 25% error was a bit too much to tolerate, but maybe
I'm just intolerant? This example would roughly equate to Auld Bob
saying he is "about 60".
> In the case of this particular ex-settlement it is just a few mounds on the
> ground with not so much as a brass plaque to indicate what it once was -
> which was the largest Moari 'town' in the South Island.
There are lots of such places, equally unplaqued, here as well.
Sometimes it is advisable not to encourage too many visitors to a
fragile site.
> They got eaten by
> the neighbours I'm pleased to relate - improved the value of our property
> considerably did that.
All of them got eaten? And how does having such neighbours increase your
property prices? If having c*nnib*ls as neighbours raises house prices,
all those McRobert's Steakhouses must be having quite an impact on their
local areas.
> I read about it in a history book and went looking for the site.
Ah - some of the history is written up, at least, then?
Murchadh
<grawi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Well? That *is* about 4 years ago. 5 is 'about 4' isn't it? Not a bad guess
>for a white pig.
Interesting you should mention that phrase - in Hong Kong, "Baak pei
jyu!" (White skinned pig!) is a popular term of endearment among a
certain class of coolie when referring to Europeans.
I would riposte with "Wong pei jyu!" (Yellow skinned pig!), which
usually reduced the hero to babbling confusion.
Murchadh
The thought momentarily crossed my mind, but I hastily dismissed it...
Dennis Guertin
> Does it have the artists name anywhere?
No. I may be under several dirt layers.
I will try and scan the two in the foreground for the ones
who were interested in the kilts.
Duke of URL
> news:<ud1mb.163190$bo1.1...@news-server.bigpond.net.au>...
>
>> Does it have the artists name anywhere?
>
> No. I may be under several dirt layers.
??? Do we need to take up a collection to buy you some
chocolate-scented soap?
Adam Whyte-Settlar
"Murchadh" <murc...@shaw.ca> wrote in message news:3f9e7fc2.4375591@news...
> On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 22:57:25 +1300, "Adam Whyte-Settlar"
> <grawi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Well? That *is* about 4 years ago. 5 is 'about 4' isn't it? Not a bad
guess
> >for a white pig.
>
> Interesting you should mention that phrase -
That's what the Moari's call we European's.
I think it stems from the time when we were regularly featured on the menu.
A W-S
Mike MacKinnon
So that's the difference between 'pakeha' and 'gaijin'?
M
Mike MacKinnon
Reminds me of a wee story I heard about the old Claymore on the Barra
run in 1959.
It was the last voyage of the venerable ship (sold to de Kreeks!) and
also the last voyage of the skipper, Ian MacNeill, who was retiring.
To mark the occasion, Lady MacBrayne came down and after she was
safely esconced in the Owners Cabin, they setr off for Castlebay.
You have to remember that in those days, the ferry would leave Oban at
half past midnight for the 10 hours journey to Barra.
Anyway, they just got past Tobermory when the wind got up and a fog
descended. All night the ship pitched and rolled and the foghorn
b;lared out her position. Eventually, 4 hours late, the old Claymore
limped into Castlebay. Old Ian went down to the Owners Cabin and said;
"Ach weel Mississ Mac Brayne. And how did you enchoy de voyage?"
"It wasn't too bad," she replied, "but I could hardly sleep a wink for
the horn."
"Ah Dhia Dhia," replied Ian, "dere's been a few nights I've been like
dat myself!"
M
Murchadh
MacKinnon) wrote:
Yeah, what they call "White Settlers" in the Highlands.
Adam Whyte-Settlar
> "Adam Whyte-Settlar" <grawi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> > Well? That *is* about 4 years ago. 5 is 'about 4' isn't it? Not a bad
guess
> > for a white pig.
>
> That depends on what margin of error you consider acceptable. In this
> case, I thought a 25% error was a bit too much to tolerate, but maybe
> I'm just intolerant? This example would roughly equate to Auld Bob
> saying he is "about 60".
It's not 25%.
One must start with the higher value, ie the 5 year figure, and subtract.
Only 20%.
20% is about about I reckon. To about 90% confidence.
> > In the case of this particular ex-settlement it is just a few mounds on
the
> > ground with not so much as a brass plaque to indicate what it once was -
> > which was the largest Maori 'town' in the South Island.
>
> There are lots of such places, equally unplaqued, here as well
> Sometimes it is advisable not to encourage too many visitors to a
> fragile site.
Absolutely. Tell them *all* to bugger orf out of my site.
But I think you are missing that this place was particularly important and
remained so right up until the mid 19th century.
I can't think of any culturally comparable locations in Scotland.
It would equate to a city the size of Dundee becoming an unplaqued mound
within a few generations.
>
> > They got eaten by
> > the neighbours I'm pleased to relate - improved the value of our
property
> > considerably did that.
>
> All of them got eaten? And how does having such neighbours increase your
> property prices?
No, no, no.
Its true that our nearest neighbours have very healthy appetites but they
are young, strictly vegetarian and seem to subsist on grass, clover and
simulated intercourse.
The two main local tribes were already enthusiasticaly decimating and eating
each other when the Europeans arrived and obligingly supplied them with
large numbers of efficient muskets.
Their numbers were always very low in this area though - the site I mention
peaked at about 3,000 I believe
The very first Pakeha traders became prized 'possessions' of the chief and
tribe they did business with and the deal was usually exclusive to that
particular chief.
The Pakeha merchant's estimated worth was valued in 'muskets' but curiously
his weight was also influential in trading - the fatter they were the higher
value they had placed upon them.
One would definitely have desired to be of high value for if it fell below
the level of 'a pig' then one would be barbecued and shared among one's
acquaintances.
But, in general, thier prefered staple was the tribe 'doon the water'.
Just as an aside; I read of one highly esteemed local character who resided
in the North Island about this time (early to mid 19th) went by the name
'eater-of-his-own-relations'. I'm assured by Moari's of my acquaintance that
this is the nearest it will translate into *nglish.
Another had diligently and tirelessly masticated his way through 184 of his
enemies in his lifetime - he was greatly revered by lesser morsals.
But I digest.
What I meant to say was; the fact that there are now hardly any Maoris in
the area
increases the value of our property when compared to what it would be worth
had they *not* eaten each other, not been supplied with muskets and were
still here, busily multiplying in abundance.
Clear?
> If having c*nnib*ls as neighbours raises house prices,
> all those McRobert's Steakhouses must be having quite an impact on their
> local areas.
You misunderstood - please see above.
> > I read about it in a history book and went looking for the site.
>
> Ah - some of the history is written up, at least, then?
About 20 lines in a 300 pager about the remarkable exploits of the early
European adventurers.
But it's OK really - the Kiwi's just skip that page.
No worries.
A W-S
Adam Whyte-Settlar
> "ejaycee" <misi_m...@hotmail.com.au> wrote in message
news:<ud1mb.163190$bo1.1...@news-server.bigpond.net.au>...
>
> > Does it have the artists name anywhere?
>
> No. I may be under several dirt layers.
Hmm. Well that's usefull new information.
Hue, chromaticity and tinge can all provide important clues.
A W-S
Lesley Robertson
superficial dirt off an oil painting, but anything more must be left to
experts.. Mind you, the guys on the Antique Road Show just spit on their
hankies and use that.....
Lesley Robertson
MacRobert
<l.a.ro...@tnw.tudelft.nl> paused to reflect but wrote anyway:
Am I the only guy who gets it all blurry and over-pixelated? I spat
on the moniter but to no avail... Can barely make out what it is
supposed to be!
MacRobert
Adam Whyte-Settlar
"MacRobert" <MacR...@th.hoose> wrote in message
news:4493qvg83oac9tmf2...@4ax.com...
It only wurks wi' yer Maw's spit.
- Ya eedjit ye.
A W-S
ejaycee
>
> "MacRobert" <MacR...@th.hoose> wrote in message
> news:4493qvg83oac9tmf2...@4ax.com...
> > On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 11:11:24 +0100, "Lesley Robertson"
> > <l.a.ro...@tnw.tudelft.nl> paused to reflect but wrote anyway:
> >
> > >
> > >"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <grawi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > >news:ZT4ob.4038$ws.3...@news02.tsnz.net...
> > >>
> > >> "Dennis Guertin" <dgue...@guertin.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:1c0364ab.03102...@posting.google.com...
> > >> > "ejaycee" <misi_m...@hotmail.com.au> wrote in message
> > >> news:<ud1mb.163190$bo1.1...@news-server.bigpond.net.au>...
> > >> >
> > >> > > Does it have the artists name anywhere?
> > >> >
> > >> > No. I may be under several dirt layers.
> > >>
> > >> Hmm. Well that's usefull new information.
> > >> Hue, chromaticity and tinge can all provide important clues.
> > >> A W-S
> > >>
> > >I was taught that a small amount of linseed oil can be used to
get
> > >superficial dirt off an oil painting, but anything more must be
left to
> > >experts.. Mind you, the guys on the Antique Road Show just spit
on their
> > >hankies and use that.....
> > >Lesley Robertson
> > >
> >
Ejaycee
MacRobert
<grawi...@hotmail.com> paused to reflect but wrote anyway:
Such ingratitude and after I immortalised you in the scs lexicon!
MacRobert