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Ian O. Morrison

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Sep 6, 2001, 9:32:35 AM9/6/01
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A poll is underway to determine the 100 Greatest Scots of the 20th
Century. Details at http://greatscots.scran.com.
Judges include two possible candidates - Wendy Alexander and Craig
Broon. I plan to vote for one of the latter's former teammates at
Dundee FC in the early 60s, the legendary Gordon Smith who was,
undoubtedly, the greatest footballer on the planet, ever. At least the
best one I've ever seen. I am just writing a wee program to submit
10,000 or so votes, to ensure his success.

Synapse is prohibited from voting, not that it would anyway.

------
Ian O.

Ian MacAninch

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Sep 6, 2001, 10:12:16 AM9/6/01
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>Ian O. Morrison)
>Date: 06/09/01 14:32 GMT Daylight Time
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You shouldn't have mentioned Wendy Alexander. He'll create a programme for
putting in 20,000 votes for her. God, can you imagine her ego if she won!!!!

Ian MacAninch

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"Ian MacAninch" <sc0t...@aol.compere> wrote in message
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Strongly placed at number 47
d@vid @llison
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Ian MacAninch

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Sep 6, 2001, 12:55:28 PM9/6/01
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d@vid @llison wrote:

>> You shouldn't have mentioned Wendy Alexander. He'll create a programme for
>> putting in 20,000 votes for her. God, can you imagine her ego if she
>won!!!!
>

>Strongly placed at number 47

AAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGHHHHH!!!!!

If she remains in the top 50 I'm definitely going to consider emigrating.

Ian MacAninch

Ian MacAninch

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Sep 6, 2001, 3:10:06 PM9/6/01
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I wrote:

Just been there and I see you've stung me Dave.

I see she's on the panel not, as yet, an entry. Well that's a kind of relief.

I was interested in the choice of Great Scot by this fellow:

Professor John S Archer PhD, Bsc, FRSE, FREng, Principal and Vice Chancellor of
Heriot Watt University
My Great Scot: Chancellor Gordon Brown

Obviously wanting to increase the letters after his name or join the
quangoteers.

Ah, the pull of patronage. Another sad side of Scottish political culture.

Ian MacAninch

~wedding-service~ UK

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Sep 6, 2001, 3:43:52 PM9/6/01
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GREAT SCOTS ----- Bloody Hell

After I submited MY name I did a search and I'm THERE

Portrait of Walter George Hepburne-Scott, 9th Baron Polworth
oil painting
by David Allison, RSA
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ...............!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
East Lothian Museums Service
http://www.scran.ac.uk/RB/images/thumb/0260/02601636.jpg

I had forgotten about that image.

--
Best wishes ~ d@vid @llison


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Sep 6, 2001, 3:46:09 PM9/6/01
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John Dixon Brunton OBE by David Allison

http://www.scran.ac.uk/ixbin/hixclient?_IXFrom_=b&_IXDB_=scran&_MREF_=138453
7&_IXSR_=ol1&_IXSP_=1&_IXSS_=_IXFPFX_%3dt%26_IXDB_%3dscran%26%2524%2524%3dda
vid%2ballison%26%2524%253ddirection%253d%2524%3d%2540ascending%26%2524%2bwit
h%2bsort_index%2bsort%2b%2528sortexpr%2bsort_index%2529%2b%2524direction%2b%
2540icase%2b%2524%2btitle%2bwhat%3d%26%2524%253f%253a%2bwith%2bhas_media_ind
ex%3d%252e&_IXsummary_style=lightbox

oil on canvas
John Dixon Brunton (1872-1951) became managing director of the family firm
in 1893, at the age of 21. By the time he took the company public in 1939 it
employed over a thousand. Brunton was directly responsible for much of the
company's innovation, being committed to research. This picture is one of a
pair that once hung in the company headquarters.

East Lothian Museums Service


Portrait of Walter George Hepburne-Scott, 9th Baron Polworth
oil painting by David Allison, RSA

Walter George Hepburne-Scott, 9th Baron Polworth, served as Convenor of East
Lothian County Council between 1925 and 1941. His portrait was painted by
David Alison, head of painting at Edinburgh college of Art. Alison's
portraiture is represented by several works in East Lothian Council's
collection.

East Lothian Museums Service

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Robert, (Auld Bob), Peffers

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Frae Auld Bob Peffers:
Well as one who kicked the occasional football with the complete Hibs Famous
Five team I have to say that you are just about right. The only thing is I
always thought, *Wee Bobby*, *Nickers*, Johnstone was the footballing brain
that made the great Hibs team tick. He may have looked like the last thing
you'd expected a professional footballer to look like but his footballing
brain has not been surpassed. John, *The Ghost*, White came close though.
(Bobby also played for Man City and Oldham).
--
Aefauldlie,
Auld Bob Peffers,
b...@peffers50.freeserve.co.uk
Web Site, *The Eck's Files*
http://www.peffers50.freeserve.co.uk/


connochies

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Sep 6, 2001, 6:30:48 PM9/6/01
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Robert, (Auld Bob), Peffers <b...@peffers50.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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Bobby can certainly lay claim to being the greatest footballer to have
emerged from the Borders, and of course he passed away a couple of weeks
back and is buried in his home town of Selkirk. How we could have done with
a couple like that last night in Brussels.


Allan

Robert, (Auld Bob), Peffers

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Sep 6, 2001, 7:10:28 PM9/6/01
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"connochies" <co...@conno.greatxscape.net> wrote in message
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snip

> Bobby can certainly lay claim to being the greatest footballer to have
> emerged from the Borders, and of course he passed away a couple of weeks
> back and is buried in his home town of Selkirk. How we could have done
with
> a couple like that last night in Brussels.
>
>
> Allan
>
>
> > --
> > Aefauldlie,
> > Auld Bob Peffers,
> > b...@peffers50.freeserve.co.uk
> > Web Site, *The Eck's Files*
> > http://www.peffers50.freeserve.co.uk/
> >
> >
>
>
Frae Auld Bob Peffers:
When you could really read a game you soon realised that all the play on the
park was being dictated and driven through the Wee midfield generals.
Scotland used to have them, though they did tend to be snapped up by the
Inglis. I can remember quite a few. Pat Quinn for instance. Another, not
quite in the same mould, was Alan Gordon, (he went in the opposite
direction from Gordon Smith.)

--
Aefauldlie,
Auld Bob Peffers,
b...@peffers50.freeserve.co.uk
Web Site, *The Eck's Files*
http://www.peffers50.freeserve.co.uk/.


Ian O. Morrison

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Sep 7, 2001, 7:04:41 AM9/7/01
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"connochies" <co...@conno.greatxscape.net> wrote in message news:<9n8tjp$j93$1...@news5.svr.pol.co.uk>...

<re Bobby Johnstone>


> Bobby can certainly lay claim to being the greatest footballer to have
> emerged from the Borders, and of course he passed away a couple of weeks
> back and is buried in his home town of Selkirk. How we could have done with
> a couple like that last night in Brussels.

I never saw Bobby Johnstone play, so I can't really compare him with
Gordon Smith. In fact his obituary appeared in the "Guardian" only
yesterday (which I read after I had voted). I wonder how the great
names of yesteryear would have coped with the game today, though I
suspect that those with exceptional talent, such as the "Famous Five",
would have managed fine. Tactics have changed a bit though, as Bob
pointed out.

I have just been looking at the lists of suggestions for voting on the
Great Scots website. Some of them look a bit dubious. The Geikie
brothers, for example, were really big in 19th, not 20th, century
geology, and some of the names which appear are not Scots, and
probably not "great" in any sense, such as Peter Anson. Synapse might
take issue with us claiming Robert Falcon Scott, since the great (?)
explorer was undoubtedly (very) English.

Perhaps some effort should be made to define a "Scot" before an
embarrassing choice (Sean Connery?) is made to top the list.

I also wonder how many people will be voting for the likes of Ann
Gloag and Brian Souter.

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Ian O.

Ian MacAninch

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Sep 7, 2001, 7:20:42 AM9/7/01
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Ian O. Morrison wrote:

>Perhaps some effort should be made to define a "Scot" before an
>embarrassing choice (Sean Connery?) is made to top the list.

And why would that be an embarrassment? To be embarrassed you have to feel that
others are mocking you for what you look like, believe, behave. Can't see many
people outside Scotland (Synapse and RH being the dishonourable exceptions)
having that view if he was at the top. They'd be more perplexed if we chose
someone who wasn't known worldwide.

Besides it between Alexander Fleming and Wendy Alexander. Or will that be Wendy
Alexander Fleming of a Private Eye sketch - "Troooolly I am the answer to
aawwlll of Scotland's ills".

Now with that thought I will remain awake all night.

Ian MacAninch

Roderick MacDonald

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Sep 7, 2001, 8:41:11 AM9/7/01
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from ian_o_m...@my-deja.com (Ian O. Morrison) contains these words:

I wonder how the great
> names of yesteryear would have coped with the game today,

This question was asked a couple of years ago when Rangers were
winning everything. I understand Billy O'Neill former celtic captain
was asked who he thought would win between Celtic's 1967 Lisbon Lions
and Rangers' recent 9 in a row winners.

After much thought Billy decided that the Lisbon Lions would win it 2-1.

The questioner said that he thought the 1967 Celts would probably win
by a greater difference.

"Aye, but you have to remember," said Billy, "that the Lisbon Lions
are mostly in their fifties, now."

Rod

Lachie Macquarie

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Sep 7, 2001, 12:22:08 PM9/7/01
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In message <200109071...@zetnet.co.uk>, Roderick MacDonald
<r.mac...@zetnet.co.uk> writes

That is the funniest thing he has ever said, usually I can't understand
his riddles.

--
Lachie Macquarie, Bod an Deamhan--smaoineachadh miannach.

Robert, (Auld Bob), Peffers

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"Ian O. Morrison" <ian_o_m...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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Frae Auld Bob Peffers:
Considering that Scots people discovered PENICILLIN, BAILEY BRIDGES,
PNEUMATIC TYRES, WATERPROOF FABRICS, BLEACHING POWDER, ARTIFICIAL ICE,
PARAFFIN OIL, STEAMSHIPS, IRON SHIPS, Founded the US NAVY, THE BANK OF
FRANCE, TELEVISION, CHLOROFORM, LOGARITHMS, STEAM ENGINES, GAS LIGHTS,
BICYCLES, HOT BLAST FURNACES, GRAMOPHONES, TELEPHONES, THE BANK OF ENGLAND,
SAVINGS BANK, THRESHING MACHINES, REAPING MACHINES, SWING PLOUGHS,
CIRCULATING LIBRARIES, RADIOLOCATION, GOLF, MAGNESIA, LATENT HEAT THEORY,
Macadam HIGHROADS, THE FLINTLOCK RIFLE and of course it was a Scot who made
famous that epitome of Englishness, *JOHN BULL*. I think it is a very hard
choice to make.

You listening Synapse?

MacRobert

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Sep 7, 2001, 11:56:02 PM9/7/01
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Nevermind the squids, Auld Bob, a Scot founded the Revenue Marine,
later renamed the US Coast Guard, America's senior sea service and the
only branch of the US armed forces to have never surrendered a man or
vessel to the enemy. That despite having served in every conflict and
in many of them, losing a higher percentage of men then any other
branch. The founder's name? Alexander Hamilton! (I know I've told
this before, I just like doing it).

MacRobert

3B

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Sep 8, 2001, 1:19:01 AM9/8/01
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Auld Bob incorrectly wrote:
>
<snip>

> Frae Auld Bob Peffers:
> Considering that Scots people discovered PENICILLIN, BAILEY BRIDGES,
> PNEUMATIC TYRES, WATERPROOF FABRICS, BLEACHING POWDER, ARTIFICIAL ICE,
> PARAFFIN OIL, STEAMSHIPS, IRON SHIPS, Founded the US NAVY,
<snip>

> --
> Aefauldlie,
> Auld Bob Peffers,

Actually, Bob, there is no one person that is officially recognized as the
founder of the USN; it was created by an act of Congress. There isn't even
anyone officially recognized as father of the USN, although JPJ (the person
to whom you are referring), is certainly at the top of the list.

--
Regards,

3B

"Everybody is ignorant, only on different subjects." - - Will Rogers

"He, who will not reason, is a bigot; he, who cannot, is a fool; and he, who
dares not, is a slave." - - William Drummond, Laird of Hawthornden

"I see no problems between us that could not be solved by your departure."
"I did not go to his funeral, but I wrote a nice letter saying I approved of
it."
- - Mark Twain


Lachie Macquarie

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Sep 8, 2001, 6:57:47 AM9/8/01
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In message <9Thm7.66575$c8.33...@news1.denver1.co.home.com>, 3B
<3Bmayor...@home.com> writes

>Auld Bob incorrectly wrote:
>>
><snip>
>> Frae Auld Bob Peffers:
>> Considering that Scots people discovered PENICILLIN, BAILEY BRIDGES,
>> PNEUMATIC TYRES, WATERPROOF FABRICS, BLEACHING POWDER, ARTIFICIAL ICE,
>> PARAFFIN OIL, STEAMSHIPS, IRON SHIPS, Founded the US NAVY,
><snip>
>> --
>> Aefauldlie,
>> Auld Bob Peffers,
>
>Actually, Bob, there is no one person that is officially recognized as the
>founder of the USN; it was created by an act of Congress. There isn't even
>anyone officially recognized as father of the USN, although JPJ (the person
>to whom you are referring), is certainly at the top of the list.


There is a bloke marked by a memorial plaque in Boston credited with
founding off the USN. I am afraid I do not recall his name.

Robert, (Auld Bob), Peffers

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Sep 8, 2001, 8:17:55 AM9/8/01
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"Lachie Macquarie" <Lac...@lachiemacq.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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Frae Auld Bob Peffers:

You probably mean John Paul Jones

**The man whom Thomas Jefferson later described as "the principal hope of
America's future efforts on the ocean" was born on 6 July 1747 in the
gardener's cottage of the Arbigland Estate, Kirkbean, Scotland.**

Find more at http://www.history.navy.mil/faqs/faq58-1.htm

I know Jones is regarded as a Welsh name but he was Scots born nonetheless.


--
Aefauldlie,
Auld Bob Peffers,

Lachie Macquarie

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Sep 8, 2001, 11:42:08 AM9/8/01
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In message <9nd2a6$1ko$1...@news6.svr.pol.co.uk>, "Robert, (Auld Bob),
Peffers" <b...@peffers50.freeserve.co.uk> writes


No Bob, JPJ was born in Galloway, this was another lad who is
commemorated near the State House in Boston. There is bloke in ASC who
comes from Boston I will ask him.

connochies

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Lachie Macquarie <Lac...@lachiemacq.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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Kirkbean is in Galloway!


Allan

Greyrover

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Sep 9, 2001, 1:15:06 AM9/9/01
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In article <9nd2a6$1ko$1...@news6.svr.pol.co.uk>,

"Robert, \(Auld Bob\), Peffers" <b...@peffers50.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

> > Lachie Macquarie, Bod an Deamhan--smaoineachadh miannach.
> Frae Auld Bob Peffers:
>
> You probably mean John Paul Jones
>
> **The man whom Thomas Jefferson later described as "the principal hope of
> America's future efforts on the ocean" was born on 6 July 1747 in the
> gardener's cottage of the Arbigland Estate, Kirkbean, Scotland.**
>
> Find more at http://www.history.navy.mil/faqs/faq58-1.htm
>
> I know Jones is regarded as a Welsh name but he was Scots born nonetheless.
> --
> Aefauldlie,
> Auld Bob Peffers,
> b...@peffers50.freeserve.co.uk
> Web Site, *The Eck's Files*
> http://www.peffers50.freeserve.co.uk/

Yes, he called himself John Paul Jones, but he was born John Paul. I
thought I had it right but I just checked the encyclopedia. If I
remember correctly from about 40 years ago, he committed a crime and
fled Scotland. He adopted the name Jones when he came to the colonies.

Greyrover

tom

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Sep 9, 2001, 4:10:52 PM9/9/01
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I am afraid James Clerk Maxwell had my vote and I still feel he is under rated in
his own country
to this day. I wonder if you can vote for half-Scots? Erik Satie had a mither fae
Aberdeen?

Tom

měcheil

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Air Sun, 09 Sep 2001 05:15:06 GMT, sgrěobh Greyrover
<grey...@earthlink.net>:

Well, Paul is a Scottish surname, so that sounds right.

- měcheil

měcheil

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Air 06 Sep 2001 16:55:28 GMT, sgrìobh sc0t...@aol.compere (Ian
MacAninch):

No you've misunderstood. Dave has placed HIMSELF at Number 47.

His claim to fame rests on his wedding service having ensured that
many of the customers actually did become legally married.

Dave keeps the signed marriage certificates of those who fail to make
their cheques good and will register them to legitimize the children
of the union on receipt of a certified cheque for the full balance
plus interest.

Some years ago I read a newspaper story about a minister in the US who
actually did this, and when he died, his files were found to include
30 or 40 marriage certificates that had never been registered, bad
cheques attached, dating back several decades.

As might be expected, considerable hell broke loose. It would have
been interesting to find out how many later got divorced and fought
over child custody, never knowing that they weren't married anyway.

I don't know if you have to supply a marriage certificate to get
divorced, but I suppose some jurisdictions might assume that you
wouldn't go to court in the first place if you weren't married.

On this subject, I was very amused by People's Court when I first saw
it. I understood immediately that the people had contracted to stand
by the "court's" decision, like the Jewish Court in New York.

What got me was the speed with which business was conducted:

Judge Wapner: Okay, I've read your file, what do you want to tell me?

Complainant: My name's Pedro Gonzales...

Judge Wapner: I've heard all I need to - I find for the defendant.
Bailiff! Toss these people out of here so we can go to the break.

The episode we never saw but read about was where the really
irritating man with the microphone who walks out with the loser to
tell everyone watching what a loser he is, got a black eye. I guess
the loser felt there was some unfinished justice needing closure.

- mìcheil

měcheil

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Air Thu, 6 Sep 2001 20:43:52 +0100, sgrìobh "~wedding-service~ UK"
<da...@wedding-service.co.uk>:

>GREAT SCOTS ----- Bloody Hell
>
>After I submited MY name I did a search and I'm THERE
>
>Portrait of Walter George Hepburne-Scott, 9th Baron Polworth
>oil painting
>by David Allison, RSA
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ...............!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>East Lothian Museums Service
>http://www.scran.ac.uk/RB/images/thumb/0260/02601636.jpg
>
>I had forgotten about that image.

David Allison, RSA must be really thrilled to think people mistake you
for him...

- mìcheil

~wedding-service~ UK

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Sep 10, 2001, 4:59:05 AM9/10/01
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> >Portrait of Walter George Hepburne-Scott, 9th Baron Polworth
> >oil painting
> >by David Allison, RSA
> >^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ...............!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >East Lothian Museums Service
> >http://www.scran.ac.uk/RB/images/thumb/0260/02601636.jpg
> >
> >I had forgotten about that image.
>
> David Allison, RSA must be really thrilled to think people mistake you
> for him...
>
> - měcheil

They keep buying my pictures for $50,000

Meirgeach

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Sep 11, 2001, 7:41:43 AM9/11/01
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The person you are thinking of is Jeremiah O'Brien. He commanded the
Commonwealth Navy of Massachusetts and is credited for the first Naval
victory against the British in the American Revolution.

Meirgeach (Rusty)

Meirgeach

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Sep 11, 2001, 8:34:08 AM9/11/01
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On Tue, 11 Sep 2001 11:41:43 GMT, vikin...@sea.net (Meirgeach)
wrote:

Sorry. Actually, I take this back. I've always got Merchant
Navy/Marine on the brain these days. You're thinking of the monument
to Commodore John Barry. See:

http://www.irishheritagetrail.com/jbarry.html

Meirgeach

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