Magog=Mongol, not Russian

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Western Christians believe Russians not the Mongol Hordes are the Gog &
Magog. Yet Alexander the Great fought off the Gog & Magog at the Derwent
Gates in the Caucasus Mts. Further note the etymological transistion: Magog,
Mongol, Magyar, Hungar, Uyghur, Hangook, Gog. American Indians, Koreans,
Japanese, and Turks are the true heirs of the Gog and Magog. Yet those same
people who see Russia as this force of Armageddon embrace Genghis Khan and
"Young Turks" and similar Magoguery.


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Sons of Conquerors, Hugh Pope, Overlook Duckworth, 2005
p25 core genius of the Turks is military organization. It is Turkic rulers
who forged most of the great empires of the Middle East and Central Asia.
p42 The turkic peoples were not necessarily ashamed of their ruthless,
all-conquering reputation. As late as the 17th century, Ottoman diarist
Evliya Celebi penned tales of fantastical barbarity as the Ottomans sallied
out each year.. "If we make a 40-year peace with you, the who are we, the
Ottomans, to make war against?"
p72 Byzantine chronicler Theophylactus of Simocatta reported 1400 years
ago the boast of early Turks that earthquakes were rare in their lands. The
truth is, tremors are frequent.. The other Turkish boast, Theophylactus said,
was they had no epidemics of disease. SImilarly, when HIV/AIDS swept the
world in the 1990s, many Turks mistakenly believed their race was immune.
p132 He told me how he had set things straight in 1992, when the late
Turkish President Turgut Ozal gathered the presidents of the newly
independent Turkic states in Ankara and urged them to sign a strong
declaration of common Turkic purpose.. "Mr. President, we just left the
Russian Empire. We don't want to enter another emprire now." [Kazak
Nazarbayev]
p152 Peter Fleming, a British traveler through Xinjiang in the 1930s, was
horrified by Uygur attitudes, especially when he passed a donkey abandoned on
the roadside to die of its hideous sores. "The TUrkis are completely
heartless with their animals, whose breakdown is accelerated by callous
neglect"
p189 In the centuries prior to the Russian conquest in the 1860s, Central
Asia's governing class and military were as a rule Turkic, and preserved the
clan structure of the steppe. Persian was usually the culture of literature
and the administration in the towns. Arabic was the lingua franca of religion
and science, like the Latin of Europe's medieval scholars
p210 Over the centruies, the Turks have found many ways to Europe. It has
often been a prmised land they gilded as the kizil elma, or golden apple, of
their literary imagination. Not counting proto-Turkish raiders like Atilla
the Hun, the first of these tenacious infiltrators crossed what was to become
known as the Turkish Straits in the 14th century. Byzantine Emperor John
Cantucazene had hired them as mercenaries in a civil war. He had offered only
a season's right to plunder his Balkan territories in return for their
services, but the Ottoman Turks staye don, telling him it was "not Muslim
custom to give up territory conquered from the infidel." Ottiman troops went
on to conquer much of southeastern Europe. A more subtle invasion of
northwestern Europe started in 1961, also by invitation, as Turkish guest
workers set out to help power Germany's post-war economic boom
p221 Izvestia, for instance, reported in 1998 that scientists had found a
72% correlation between genes of American Indians and a village in Russia's
Central Asian republic of Tuva - and that the TUrkic Tuvans looked exactly
like American Indians too. Likewise, a University of Arizona study found a
strong linkage between 19 native American groups and 15 from Siberia
p223 "Native Americans and Turks worship the wolf. They value the color
turquoise. Shamans exist in both world," he said. "There is a common legend,
too. Kukulkan was a man who came by the sea and taught everything in the
Manas epic of the Kyrgyz. In <exican legend, he also appears as a
white-bearded, knowledgeable man." He listed American Indian tribal names
like Koman and Yoruk, exactly the same as well-known Turkic clans. Core
Turkic words like ata for father and anne for mother are shared with the
Cherokee and other toungues. THe word yurt means tent for the Obigwa.
p248 Iran's population is mostly SHia, but has a significant Sunni
minority. Turkey, meanwhile, is majority Sunni, but has a minority of perhaps
one fifth of the population which is "Alevi," a kind of folk cult with strong
Shia elements. In ethnic terms, the paradox is more complicated. TUrkey,
while claiming a strong ethnic link to Azerbaijan, is only home to a few
hundred thousand full ethnic Azeris - other Turks are close, but more like
ethnic cousins. Yet few people realize that perhaps one quarte rof Iran's
population are thnic Azeris
p269 Altay, the forested Central Asian mountqins at the point where the
broders of RUssia, CHina and Mongolia meet. THe modern Turks count Altay as
their legendary motherland. Indeed, Yuguseva said that he people considered
themselves the purest of all Turkic peoples, and the center of the
world. TUrkey's Turks are taught that the first Turks were saved by a
she-wolf that led them from danger in altay; Nadya [Yuguseva] said that her
people had a similar legend. She claimed her shamanism was the oldest
religion in the world
p279 Just 6% of young Turks regularly went to a mosque.. Some 90% believed
in God, and two-thirds fasted during the holy month of Ramadan
p292 Since Baku became the world's first oil-boom town in the late 19th
century - the origin of the fortunes of Alfred Nobel, who endowed the famous
prize, and a branch of the Rothschild family - it has attracted foreign
competition and intervention. The need for Azerbaijani oil hardened the
determination of Soviet RUssia to crush the fledgling independent republic of
Azerbaijan of 1918-20. The Baku oil fields were a prime target of Hitler's
catastrophic 1941 invasion of the Soviet Union
p300 For more than half a century now, they have draine doff the lifeblood
of Central Asia to irrigate fields of cotton.. water slowly evaporates,
leaving behind acrid bowls of salt and dust.. gradual drying up of the steppe
is one reason given by historians for the great westward movement of the
Turkic people. It could date back to pasture failures when the skies darkened
after an enormous explosion of Krakatoa, the Indonesian volcano, in 535 AD
p314 When 19th century adventurer Arminius Vambery visited the abdlands
here, indeed, rapacity was a public and positive virtue. In one group of
Turmen yurts, he chanced to witness the return of a raiding party. First
everyone listened to the tale of the chief raider, whose excitememnt was
mixed with outrage that his Persian victims should dare to resist being
plundered
p363 "I advise people to have a critical loyalty to Germany, but a
critical solidarity with Turkey." The resistance to assimilation among German
Turks was especially strong in the two-thirds of the community who were from
conservative and rural backgrounds
p374 teased he husband with a smile. "I guess the reason you guys like
your home town so much is that none of you have to live there!"
p383 However secular the Turkic style of governement is judged, Islam and
nationalism are inextricably entwined at the heart of any Turkic
identity.. The Turkic states with the strongest Islamic movements -
Uzbekistan and Turkey - are also those with the strongest sense of national
identity.. Thanks to their relatively secular and opportunistic outlook, the
Turks have shown themselves to be mor eopen to Western ideas than other major
Islamic peoples



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On Aug 8, 9:45 pm, vjp2...@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote:


Dear Vasos,

Why do you feel compelled to post a combination of your college notes
and commentary showing an incredible skewed view of Slavs in the
newsgroup. You have a lot of knowedge of both Orthodox Christianity
and politics to share instead.

How about something less hateful and more religious?