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NEVER FORGET: "Deborah Lipstadt, author of the anti-revisionist
polemic
Denying the Holocaust, has assigned [Binjamin Wilkormiski's book]
Fragments
in her Emory University class on Holocaust memoirs. When confronted
with
evidence that it is a fraud [the author spent the war in comfort in
Switzerland, not Auschwitz, and was not even a Jew], she commented
that
the
new revelations 'might complicate matters somewhat, but [the work] is
still
powerful.'" -

In other words, who cares about fact or fiction where the Holocaust
is
concerned?

Without Jewish co operation through the zionists the Germans would never
have had the resources to herd the Jews into the various camps. And the
zionists made it impossible for the underground to trust the jews.
So no reluctance amongst jews as they knew that they were simply being
encamped.

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> mose wrote:
>> "William Black" <willia...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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>>> mose wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dershowitz denounced Holocaust denier David Irving, who had sued
>>>> Deborah Lipstadt for libel, with these words: "Before Irving lost his
>>>> case [against Lipstadt], several publishers had refused to issue
>>>> books critical of Irving, out of fear of his bringing expensive and
>>>> time-consuming lawsuits. That was
>>>> a chilling of free speech" (Afterword to Lipstadt's History on Trial;
>>>> his emphasis).
>>>>
>>> No problems with this bit.
>>
>> If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we
>> don't believe in it at all."
>> -- Noam Chomsky
>
> Irving was the one who brought the prosecution.

Yes he was obviously a teacher who had no idea of the complexities of the
law, he acted in court for himself. big mixtake.
And of course probably had no idea of the resistance he'd strike from the
jews. Usual dickhead who thinks the truth will win out.

http://www.ihr.org/books/hoggan/21.html

http://www.outlawjournalism.com/news/?p=5803

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http://www.icrc.ch/Web/Eng/siteeng0.nsf/iwpList418/359CC4EF8A1E5C72C1256B66005B2171Alittlehard to obtain a report that is not heavily influenced byjewishpressure toincludE holocaust AS THEY WOULD LIKE ALL TO SEE IT..So youwill notice thatholocaust is not denied just a quiet it was badetc. "Ihave never heldmyself out to be a Holocaust expert, nor have I writtenbooks about what isnow called the Holocaust." "I have done my best toprepare the case thatfollows, but I respectfully submit that I do not haveany duty to become anexpert on the Holocaust, my Lord." "I have neverclaimed to be aHolocaust historian. As I have said, I have no written nobook about theHolocaust. I have written no article about it. If I havespoken about it, itis usually because somebody has asked me a question, Ihave been questionedabout it. On such occasions I have emphasised my lackof expertise and Ihave expatiated only upon those areas with which I amfamiliar."http://www.fpp.co.uk/Legal/Penguin/transcripts/day002.htm:"Now, you heard mesay in my opening statement, Mr Rampton, that I am notan expert on theHolocaust. What I would now say would be a figure withoutany valuewhatsoever."Winston Churchill wrote a five volume history of WorldWar II andnevermentioned the holocaust. He never mentioned it because heknew thattheholocaust was just wartime propaganda and he did not want tosully whathehoped would be the definitive history of the war withpropaganda thatcommonsense alone could refute.>"Asgard" <asg...@home.netwrote inmessagenews:zZadnTJAIc9c0_DY...@giganews.com...�What a load ofemotive old bollocks, bullshit and lies. The narratorstates the inmateswere "starving' at Bergen Belsen, yet the vast majorityof the inmates lookpositively fat and shiny. He goes on to say thosedead, had died ofstarvation, yet earlier stated they'd not eaten for only6 days. Theimages of the dead showed mainly emaciated corpses, nothinglike the peoplestill moving around. If they'd died of "starvation", whyhad the vasstmajority of the inmates not suffered the same fate. Why,indeed wasit onlythe corpses which were emaciated. What I foundparticularly intersting, wassignificant incidence ofpetachiae on thebodies of the dead. THIS IS ACLASSIC SIGN OF EPIDEMIC TYPHUS. "Theorthodox holocaust story can notpossibly be defended with rationalarguments because its absurdity isoverwhelming. We are asked to believein the fata morgana of a vastslaughter in killing factories which left notraces whatsoever - nodocuments, no bones, no teeth, no ashes - nothing!We are further asked tobelieve that the Allies, who had a large networkof informers all overEurope and a spy in the German leadership (AdmiralCanaris, the head of theGerman intelligence), did not become aware ofthis gigantic genocide untilthe end of the war, for if they had knownabout the mass murder, they wouldhave acted to stop it. Finally, we areasked to believe that the Jews inPoland, the epicentre of the holocaust,did not know anything about theAuschwitz gas chambers as late as inAugust 1944, otherwise the Jews fromthe Lodz ghetto would not have goneto Auschwitz voluntarily - which isprecisely what they did, as related byRaul Hilberg in his standard workabout the holocaust (Die Vernichtung dereuropaeischen Juden, p. 543/544).As the Zionist-controlled system of the"Western democracies" is woefullyunable to counter the revisionists witharguments, it resorts to censorshipand brute force in order to silencethe dangerous heretics. And the Jewsare gradually transforming theholocaust into a religion. Nowadays, a largepercentage of the Jews do notbelieve in God any more, but virtually all ofthem believe in the SixMillion. The Zionist leadership cunningly exploitsthe holocaust to unitethe World's Jews by keeping them in a constant stateof hysteria andpersecution mania, insinuating that only if the Jews sticktogether willthey be able to ban the threat of a new holocaust.At the endof the year2000, Israel is a besieged country, but from the military pointof view,it is still vastly superior to its neighbours, and it enjoystheunconditional support of the United States. Should any of theIslamicstates grow strong enough to seriously threaten Israel, it wouldmostprobably be attacked and militarily annihilated by America. Russia isnotlikely to risk a confrontation with the USA for the sake ofthePalestinians. We can certainly admire the bravery of thePalestiniansresistance fighters who are willing to sacrifice their livesto liberatetheir homeland from the alien intruders, but realistically,they have nochance to win. The Palestinians have stones and slings. TheIsraelis havehelicopters and tanks. You can't destroy helicopters and tankswith stonesand slings. In view of the total Jewish media control and theever-growinganti-revisionist repression in many Western countries, it isverydifficult indeed to achieve a revisionist breakthrough.Without Jewishcooperation through the zionists the Germans would neverhave had theresourcesto herd the Jews into the various camps. And thezionists made itimpossiblefor the underground to trust the jews.The New Blasphemyby TomBlairNewsEditor, The JubileeThere was a time when a man did not blasphemeGod inAmerica. There weresevere social proscriptions against it. Somecommunitieseven had lawsagainst blasphemy. Well blasphemy is still a greatsin inAmerica and maysoon be a crime again. But sadly America has a new godandso, a newblasphemy.Let me here commit the new blasphemy while it isstilllegal. What we knowas the "holocaust" is largely war-timepropaganda.Propaganda that, unlikemost war-time propaganda, was not quietlyforgotten.Instead it hascontinued; grown more fantastic, more hateful, andmoredangerous toquestion every year since 1945.The truth is thatsomewherebetween 700,000 and 1,500,000 people died inGerman work camps in1944 and1945. Most of them were Jews. Many were not.Most of them died in thelastsix months of the war from disease and hungercaused by America's bombingofGermany and subsequent destruction of herinfrastructure. There weresomeatrocities but very few. Few people realizethat the International RedCrosshad a field office in Auschwiz from 1942until the end of the war.Thatoffice never reported or recorded anyatrocities (Several yearsagointernational Jewry forced the Red Cross toapologize to the Jews -apologizefor not seeing something that neverhappened.)> --> William Black>>"Anynumber under six">> The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke whenaskedby the Duke ofMedina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men hecouldbeat singlehanded with a quarterstaff.Well Bill I have finally realizedyouare jewish with an English persona, sopossibly an Englishman whosereligionis judaism ,Or you're playing with that staff to much and you'velost theplit.BUT THATS AS MUCH AS I'M GOING TO BREAKDIWN FOR YOU.fOR THEREST YOU'LLHAVE TO KEEP UP WITH MY POSTS OR GET DOWN AND DIRTY ANDREAD THEMTHOROUGHLYLONG AS THEY ARE."If we don't believe in freedom of expression forpeoplewe despise, wedon't believe in it at all."-- Noam ChomskyTHEFrenchEnlightenment philosopher Voltaire is often claimed to have said:"Imay notagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death yourright tosayit".APPARENTLY NOT TODAY YOU CANNOT EVEN GET THE TRUTH ANYMORE."DeborahLipstadt, author of the anti-revisionist polemic DenyingtheHolocaust, has assigned [Binjamin Wilkormiski's book] Fragmentsinher Emory University class on Holocaust memoirs. Whenconfrontedwithevidence that it is a fraud [the author spent the war incomfortinSwitzerland, not Auschwitz, and was not even a Jew], shecommented thatthenew revelations 'might complicate matters somewhat, but [thework] isstillpowerful.'" - In other words, who cares about fact or fictionwhere theHolocaustis concerned?AND JEWISH WHINGERS NEVER TAKETHEBLAME.http://www.erichufschmid.net/video/Ruth-Madoff-blames-Gentiles.wmvSHEBLAMES GENTILES Dershowitz denounced Holocaust denier David Irving,whohad sued DeborahLipstadt for libel, with these words: "Before Irvinglosthis case[against Lipstadt], several publishers had refused to issuebookscriticalof Irving, out of fear of his bringing expensiveandtime-consuminglawsuits. That was a chilling of free speech" (AfterwordtoLipstadt's History on Trial; hisemphasis).AND ALL THE STUPID GENTILESWEREEITHER PAID OFF OR TO STUPID TO BEAT ABUNCH OF LIARS OR HELP IRVINGAGAINSTUNPRINCIPLED LIARS.ARE THERE SO MANY MASOCHISTIC SYCOPHANTS AMONG NONJEWISHLEADERS.[The very creation of Israel required an act of terror. In1948,most of thenon-Jewish indigenous people were ethnically cleansed fromthepart ofPalestine which became Israel. This action was carefullyplanned.Withoutit, no state with a Jewish majority and character would havebeenpossible.Since 1948, the "Israeli Arabs", those Palestinians whoavoidedexpulsion,have suffered continuous discrimination. Indeed, many havebeeninternallydisplaced, ostensibly for "security reasons", but reallytoacquire theirlands for Jews.]No, the Zionofreaks want to ban any historybutwhat they write.Isn't it quite glaringly obvious that "TheHolocaust"legends would fallapart without laws that make it illegal toquestionit?Isn't it glaringly obvious that 911 was the "Goy Holocaust"forAmerica,that short circuits critical thinking and creates avictimmentallity thatjustifies all sorts of crimes against "evil"?Without"TheHolocaust" and "911", the manipulators of the US and Israelwould nothavebeen able to carry out their "War on Terror" terrorismagainst theArabs.Butwith a public that thinks it is persecuted and under attack,anyatrocity isjustified.The terrorists have won. For nowWhat Kind Of TruthIs It ThatNeeds A Court Order To BeProtected&Believed?http://www.davidduke.com/general/toben-vs-australias-orwellian-hate-legislation_9479.htmlhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0o4I9kWZ0CILOWPROFILE TO NO MEDIA REPORTING. WTF is this, jewish rule beingbrought inbythe back door.We are losing our rights to jews to support abunch ofmoneygrubbing liars. This opinion by ajew.http://www.n0war-paix.ca/n0war/forum/6973AND LOBBYINGINAMERICAhttp://globalfire.tv/nj/03en/letters/2OO3oct_nbr01.htmTHEJEWISHELDERS APPROACHED THEOFFICEOFhttp://www.hreoc.gov.au/racial_discrimination/cyberracism/vilification.htmlAND THAT'S ALL SHE WROTE. THE RACIST JEWS ARE APPARENTLY NOWABOVEEVERYBODYELSE IN AUSTRALIA. APPARENTLY LIKE ENGLAND AND AMERICA THEYAREONAJEWISHPAYROLL.http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,25487788-5015644,00.htmlhttp://www.nafcash.com/Lest you think there must be some truthtothe alleged Treblinka holocaust NAFCASH TM is offering a $250,000.00REWARDFor locating JUST ONE of the alleged "HUGE MASS GRAVES" of TreblinkaNAFCASHTM presents THE TREBLINKA CRIME SCENE INVESTIGATION CHALLENGE TM Youmustscientifically - forensically prove the grave's EXACT location,itsEXACTdimensions and its EXACT volumetric density. The cremated remains musttotalAT LEAST one percent of the alleged massmurder. JUST ONE MASS GRAVE! -JUSTONEPERCENT!http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/holohoax.htmhttp://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article21878.htmhttp://www.biblebelievers.org.au/holohoax.htmA look at these healthy happy jews will make you wonder just alittlemoreabout thehardshipclaims.http://globalfire.tv/nj/03en/letters/2003oct_nbr01.htmThis isacontribution to your inquiry about the label: "holocaust-denial".Firstofall there was NO holocaust, other than those taking place ineverycountrythat is at war.The incarceration of "enemies of the state" is aworld-widepractice. Theprimary question here is; what constitutes aholocaust? Camps,depravation,imprisonment, harsh treatment, executions,hunger etc.?Thoseconditions exist in all camps, in all nations, under allregimes.RememberAndersonville, Manzanar, the Gulags, the British camps inAfrica,theAmerican death-camps in Germany, they all constitute a "holocaust"ifviewedthrough the lenses of Jewish "holocaust-sufferers".Read the RedCrossreports. Go to the Red Cross museum, headquarters in your city andpick upthe records. Anyway theres a few independentwitnesses.http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/dth/fndstats.htmlThere are otherindications aswell that the theory of mass destruction ofthe Hungarian Jewsis incorrect:the witnesses to this destructionunanimously claim that duringthese allegedmass exterminations the limitedcapacity of the Birkenaucrematorianecessitated the excavation of enormouspits, in which the bodieswereburned. Dark clouds of smoke, they claim,darkened the sky overBirkenauduring this procedure. Fortunately (orunfortunately, depending onone'sperspective) the aerial reconnaissancephotographs taken by the Alliesduringthis time prove that in the Birkenaucamp, which was not obscured bycloudsof smoke when the pictures weretaken, there were neither open fires,norgiant pits, nor smoke activity onany scale large or small, nor piles ofdeadbodies, nor great supplies offirewood, nor anything else of thesort.[45]The Polish Historical Societyconcludes that in light of thisevidence thenumber of victims in Auschwitzmust be reduced by another 400,000plus 74,000(Polish Jews from theliquidated ghetto Lodz, who are also claimedto havebeen gassed around thistime), leaving some 500,000 victimsforAuschwitz.[46]Even allegedly probative documents of the NurembergTribunalcannot changethis, since such documents are by no means alwaysgenuine, ortrue, and onlyever provide evidence for deportations which arenot disputedhere in thefirst place - they never document an extermination.The reader isremindedof the example of Dachau, the concentration camp wherethe IMTalleged thathundreds of thousands were gassed, a claim which in theendturned out to benothing more substantial than an atrocitypropagandalie.[47] We shall comeacross another case of dubious IMT documentsin thediscussion oftheSovietUnion.http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/print.asp?ID=2735http://www.rense.com/general69/factua.htmRassinier seems to wrap itup.http://www.ihr.org/books/rassinier/debunking1-0.htmlJews will onceagainsubject Robert Faurisson (aged 78) to a trial for"holocaust denial."TheFrench judicial police served Faurisson a summonsdemanding that he appearincourt this Thursday (24 Jan 08). Faurisson ischarged with attendingtheDecember 11, 2006 conference in Iran titled,"Review of the Holocaust:GlobalVision."This will be the fifteenth time that Jews have hauledFaurisson intocourt.Jews have already frozen his bank account, while courtofficialshaverepeatedly visited his home, threatening him and his wife withseizureoftheir furniture to pay for financial "damages" caused byhis"heretical"remarks.Faurisson is arguably the most thorough of allexaminersof the holo-hoax.Ernst Z�ndel, Gemar Rudolph and others are inprison, butJews considerFaurisson enemy #1, because of the meticulousness ofhis work.And since theholo-hoax cannot be defended with reason and science,Jews useoppressivelaws and prison sentences to protect it from rationalcriticism.In manycases they use extreme violence, as you will see later inthispost.Fortunately the Goyim are too cowardly to resist Jewishterrorism.Atthe Iran conference, Faurisson said that for the past 32 years,he hasbeenwaiting for someone to show him one of the chambers whereJewswheresupposedly gassed during the holo-hoax.In July 2006, a Pariscourtconvicted Faurisson of "holocaust denial"because of remarks madebyFaurisson on the Sahar 1 Iranian satellitechannel in February2005.Faurisson was given a three-month suspended prisonterm, and was alsofined7,500 euros.The former Prime Minister of France, Dominique deVillepin,said, "We [theFrench people] are in a democracy. Everyone has theright toexpress hisviews freely."Therefore all defamatory remarks againstMuslims orIslam are protected as"free speech."However, any questioning oftheholo-hoax or Jewish atrocities is illegal.The Gayssot Act of1990 -initiated by President Jaques Chirac -- prohibitsany questioningorexamination of the holo-hoax.Faurisson's specialty is examiningdocumentsand manuscripts. In 1991 he wasfired from his university postforquestioning the holo-hoax. He was chargedwith violating the GayssotAct,(Loi Gayssot) passed on 13 July 1990 thatmakes it illegal in Francetoquestion the holo-hoax. The law was proposedby the communistdeputyJean-Claude Gayssot, and is one of several Europeanlaws that make itillegalto examine the holo-hoax.Its first article states that "anydiscriminationfounded on the membershipor non-membership to an ethnic group,a nation, arace or a religion isprohibited."Discrimination against Muslims,of course,is permissible.When Faurisson was terminated at the university, heappealedto the ICCPRHRC(International Covenant on Civil and Political RightsandHuman RightsCommittee). This is a UN group that polices literature foranyquestioningof the holo-hoax. (It is not to be confused with themorehigh-profileCommission on Human Rights, a Charter-based mechanism, oritsreplacement,the Human Rights Council, which of course is controlledbyJews.)http://www.von-waldenburg.com/reviews.htmlA person who livedinGermany during the war.The Tobencasetoday:http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/oct/17/germany-australia"JohnnyAsia" <bardi...@mypacks.net wroteinmessagenews:o_mdnWiesd-_YMrU...@earthlink.com...� Amongthefooled, at least the partially fooled, was Berenbaum, former directorofthe United States Holocaust Research Institute at the U.S.HolocaustMemorial Museum in Washington. Berenbaum had been asked to readthemanuscript by film producer Harris Salomon, who still plans anadaptationof the book. Berenbaum's tentative support - "Crazier thingshavehappened," he toldThe Associated Press last fall - was cited bythepublisher as it initially defended the book. Berenbaum now says hesawfactual errors, including Rosenblat's description of Theresienstadt,thecamp from which he was eventually liberated, but didn't thinkofchallenging the love story. "There's a limit to what I can verify,becauseI was not there," he says."I can verify the general historicalnarrative,but in my research I relyupon the survivors to present thespecifics oftheir existence with integrity. When they don't, they destroyso much andthey ruin so much, and that's terrible." "I was burned," headded. "AndI have to read books more skepticallybecause I was burned."Anger,sadness over fabricated Holocaust story By HILLEL ITALIE, APNationalWriter - Sun Dec 28, 1:09 pm ET NEW YORK - It's the latest storythattouched, and betrayed, the world. "Herman Rosenblat and his wife arethemost gentle, loving, beautiful people,"�� JUST VERY GREEDY ANDCOULDNOT RESIST THE EASY DOLLAR.� AFTER THEY ARE ALL DOING IT.�literaryagent Andrea Hurst said Sunday, anguishing over why she, and somanyothers, were taken by Rosenblat's story of love born onopposite sidesof abarbed-wire fence at a concentration camp. "I question why Ineverquestioned it. I believed it; it was anincredible, hope-filledstory."��ANOTHER REALLY LOVELY PERSON WHO COULD NOT RESIST OF THE EASYDOLLAR.�Historical records prove Rosenblat was indeed at Buchenwald andothercamps."How sad that he felt he had to embellish a life of survivingtheHolocaustand of being married for half a century," said Holocaust scholarMichaelBerenbaum.WELL ABOUT TIME HE WAS BURNT FOR HIS ENCOURAGEMENT OFHOAXERS ANDTHEY FALSECLAIMS. The damage is broad. Publishing, the mosttrusting ofindustries, hasagain been burned by a memoir that fact-checkingmight haveprevented. Berkleyis an imprint of Penguin Group (USA), which inMarchpulled Margaret B.Jones' "Love and Consequences" after theauthoracknowledged she had inventedher story of gang life in LosAngeles.Winfrey fell, as she did with JamesFrey, for a narrative ofsuffering andredemption better suited for television than for history.The damage isdeep. Scholars and other skeptics as well as fellowsurvivorsfear thatRosenblat's fabrications will only encourage doubts about theHolocaust."I am very worried because many of us speak to thousands ofstudent eachyear," says Sidney Finkel, a longtime friend of Rosenblat's anda fellowsurvivor. "We go before audiences. We tell them a story and nowsomepeoplewill question what I experienced." -- + Pucker your lips fortheApocalypse! Johnny Asia, Guitarist from theFuturehttp://music.download.com/johnnyasia http://johnnyasia.net "If youwantto know what the future of music sounds like..listen to JohnnyAsia,then you'll know!" - Jazz Guitarist Dom Minasi +And at the bottomseethe person who profited from lies and is behind thefalse story that isusedto put our truth seeking teachers in jail.These teachers are no morethanthe plumber Joe's of the acadenic worldbeing illtreated because of partofout population who want to support thelies because of the hugeincomesderived from these lies.These sites below show up the huge liesandwhy.Libraries, brothels,swimming??INAUSWICHTZ???http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4138523842550891901#0h53m09shttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dyBMuSYLGkNext we have theGermanrecords where no mention of killing of jews has beenfound.In factthedocuments like this month disprove the huge distortionsandexaggerationsmade by the jewish contingent.And as in the country today thenumbersactually involved considering thatmillions fought with and servedGermanyagainst what was jews against theircountryofresidence.http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/history/zionism/news.php?q=1196891581http://iraqwar.mirror-world.ru/article/130513http://www.icrc.org/web/eng/siteeng0.nsf/htmlall/section_second_world_war?OpenDocumentReportof the International Committee of the Red Cross on itsActivitiesduring theSecond World War, Geneva, 1948.You will find thousandsof jewish fundedmuseums amd so calleduniversitiesthat supposedly haveevidence , also thereports themselves havebeen contaminated by jewishacademics and supporterscontinual injectionsthat the Red Cross did notsee.The Red Cross is notpolitical or historical so keptrecords of it'sactions,and if astrocitiesoccurred they recorded them just as they dotoday.And the only evidenceoffered by holocaust supporters is the usualsuspectexaggerations fromreparation seeking jews castigated by honesthonest jewsfor this horrible useof what suffering there was during thisperiod.Despite the suffering of thejews it was not as much as Europeans asa wholesuffered with over 5 millionimprisoned, a much hight number than therealnumber of jews . And free foranyone to investigate without fearofimprisonment.Not to mention thedisrupted lives of Europeans when theirhomes and townsbecame thebattlefields of WW2.To emphasize the determinedefforts of the jews to stayin the limelight bypushing all other victims tothe back while they bask inthe limelight , ina lot of cases undeservedlyso.http://www.scrapbookpages.com/Poland/Crosses/Crosses.htmlAs an examplethePolish who is the one country who had more (3 million -figures youcanexamine without fear of harassment) wanted to put up crossesfor victims,who were in there mostly for helping and supporting jews inPoland.Werecastigated and criticised by jewish groups claiming theremembrancesshouldonly be for their victims, and not be over shadowedbyChristianvictims.http://www.scrapbookpages.com/Poland/Crosses/Crosses.htmlhttp://www.holocaustforgotten.com/poland.htmhttp://www.holocaustforgotten.com/All thatcomes out clearly, whatever the reason that the jews were heldincamps,there was great co operation by the jews themselves, this forcedthemto findexcuses for their behavior, and easiest was lying aboutthecruelties of theGermans that caused this co operation. Rather fallsdownwhen there is nogassing and if camps were simply holding camps.As theirown leaders said.TheJewish ghetto police always had the option, she said, of"throwing offtheiruniforms and joining the rest of us" - a point that YitzakZuckerman,aleader of the Warsaw ghetto uprising, made inhismemoir.http://www.theexperiment.org/articles.php?news_id=2139There is notashred of evidence, for example, that "a gas chamber was in the processofbeing built at Dachau, but it was never completed." (See "TheSecondLeuchter Report" by American gas chamber expert Fred Leuchter in TheJournalof Historical Review, Fall 1990.) There is likewise no proof that"mentallyand physically handicapped people were killed" by gas at any of thefour"institutions" Wiesenthal mentions. This US Army photo was taken atDachauon April 30, 1945, one day after the camp's capture. It shows a GIstandingin front of a door marked with a skull and crossbones and thewords"Caution! Gas! Life danger! Do not open!" According to the officialcaption,"these chambers were used by Nazi guards for killing prisoners oftheinfamous Dachau concentration camp." In fact, this is a smalldisinfectiongas chamber used for delousing clothes. It was never used tokill people.For several decades, this photo has been widely reproduced tohelp keepalive the notorious Dachau "gas chamber" myth. (US Army photoSC206194.)Besides the condensation below you can exam the various reviewsofthe REDCROSS covering WW2 during the time of the jews claimedastrocitiescommitedby the Germans.Inmates ReleasedMore than 200,000prisoners weretransferred from Auschwitz to other camps,and about 8,000 werein the campwhen it was liberated by Soviet forces. Inaddition, about 1,500prisonerswho had served their sentences werereleased, and returned to theirhomecountries. [16] If Auschwitz hadactually been a top secretexterminationcenter, would the Germans havereleased inmates who "knew" whatwas happeningthere?Himmler Orders DeathRateReducedhttp://www.ihr.org/books/hoggan/21.htmlhttp://www.outlawjournalism.com/news/?p=5803http://www.rense.com/general69/factua.htmhttp://www.777healthproducts.com/07g.htmhttp://www.icrc.ch/Web/Eng/siteeng0.nsf/iwpList418/359CC4EF8A1E5C72C1256B66005B2171A little hard to obtain a report that is notheavily influenced byjewishpressure to includE holocaust AS THEY WOULD LIKEALL TO SEE IT..So youwill notice that holocaust is not denied just a quietit was badetc.THEJEWS AND THE CONCENTRATION CAMPS:A FACTUAL APPRAISAL BY THERED CROSS.Thereis one survey of the Jewish question in Europe during WorldWarTwo and theconditions of Germany's concentration camps which isalmostunique in itshonesty and objectivity, the three-volume Reportof theInternationalCommittee of the Red Cross on its Activitiesduring the SecondWorld War,Geneva, 1948.This comprehensive account from an entirelyneutralsourceincorporated and expanded the findings of two previousworks:Documentssur l'activit� du CICR en faveur des civils d�tenus danslescamps deconcentration en Allemagne 1939-1945 (Geneva, 1946), andInterArma Caritas:the Work of the ICRC during the Second World War(Geneva, 1947).The team ofauthors, headed by Fr�d�ric Siordet,explained in the openingpages of theReport that their object, in thetradition of the Red Cross, hadbeen strictpolitical neutrality, andherein lies its great value.The ICRCsuccessfullyapplied the 1929 Geneva military convention inorder to gainaccess tocivilian internees held in Central and WesternEurope by theGermanyauthorities. By contrast, the ICRC was unable togain any access totheSoviet Union, which had failed to ratify theConvention. The millionsofcivilian and military internees held inthe USSR, whose conditions wereknownto be by far the worst, werecompletely cut off from anyinternationalcontact or supervision.The Red Cross Report is of value in thatit firstclarifies thelegitimate circumstances under which Jews weredetainedinconcentration camps, i.e. as enemy aliens. In describing thetwocategoriesof civilian internees, the Report distinguishes the secondtypeas "Civiliansdeported on administrative grounds (inGerman,"Schutzh�ftlinge"), who werearrested for political or racialmotivesbecause their presence wasconsidered a danger to the State ortheoccupation forces" (Vol. 111, p. 73).These persons, it continues,"wereplaced on the same footing as personsarrested or imprisonedunder common lawfor security reasons." (P.74).TheReport admits that the Germans were atfirst reluctant to permitsupervisionby the Red Cross of people detained ongrounds relating tosecurity, but bythe latter part of 1942, the ICRCobtained importantconcessions fromGermany. They were permitted to distributefoodparcels to majorconcentration camps in Germany from August 1942,and"from February 1943onwards this concession was extended to all othercampsand prisons" (Vol.111, p. 78). The ICRC soon establishedcontact with campcommandants andlaunched a food relief programmewhich continued to functionuntil the lastmonths of 1945, letters ofthanks for which came pouring infrom Jewishinternees.Red Cross Recipients Were JewsThe Report states that"As many as9,000 parcels were packed daily.From the autumn of 1943 until May1945,about 1,112,000 parcels with atotal weight of 4,500 tons were sent offtothe concentration camps"(Vol. III, p. 80). In addition to food,thesecontained clothing andpharmaceutical supplies. "Parcels were sent toDachau,Buchenwald,Sangerhausen, Sachsenhausen,Oranienburg,Flossenburg,Landsberg-am-Lech, Fl�ha, Ravensbr�ck,Hamburg-Neuengamme,Mauthausen,Theresienstadt, Auschwitz, Bergen-Belsen, tocamps near Viennaand inCentral and Southern Germany. The principalrecipients wereBelgians,Dutch, French, Greeks, Italians, Norwegians, Polesand statelessJews"(Vol. III, p. 83).In the course of the war, "The Committeewas in aposition to transferand distribute in the form of relief suppliesovertwenty millionSwiss francs collected by Jewish welfareorganisationsthroughout theworld, in particular by the American JointDistributionCommittee ofNew York" (Vol. I, p. 644). This latter organisationwaspermitted bythe German Government to maintain offices in Berlin untiltheAmericanentry into the war. The ICRC complained that obstruction oftheirvastrelief operation for Jewish internees came not from the Germansbutfromthe tight Allied blockade of Europe. Most of their purchases ofrelieffoodwere made in Rumania, Hungary and Slovakia.The ICRC had special praiseforthe liberal conditions which prevailedat Theresienstadt up to the timeoftheir last visits there in April1945. This camp, "where there wereabout40,000 Jews deported fromvarious countries was a relativelyprivilegedghetto" (Vol. III, p.75). According to the Report, "'TheCommittee'sdelegates were able tovisit the camp at Theresienstadt (Terezin)which wasused exclusivelyfor Jews and was governed by special conditions.Frominformationgathered by the Committee, this camp had been started asanexperimentby certain leaders of the Reich ... These men wished to givetheJewsthe means of setting up a communal life in a town undertheirownadministration and possessing almost complete autonomy. . .twodelegateswere able to visit the camp on April 6th, 1945. Theyconfirmedthe favourableimpression gained on the first visit" (Vol.I, p . 642).TheICRC also hadpraise for the regime of Ion Antonescu of FascistRumania wherethe Committeewas able to extend special relief to183,000 Rumanian Jews untilthe time ofthe Soviet occupation. The aidthen ceased, and the ICRCcomplained bitterlythat it never succeeded"in sending anything whatsoever toRussia" (Vol. II,p. 62). The samesituation applied to many of the Germancamps after their"liberation"by the Russians. The ICRC received a voluminousflow of mailfromAuschwitz until the period of the Soviet occupation, whenmany oftheinternees were evacuated westward. But the efforts of the RedCrosstosend relief to internees remaining at Auschwitz under Sovietcontrolwerefutile. However, food parcels continued to be sent toformerAuschwitzinmates transferred west to such camps as BuchenwaldandOranienburg.NoEvidence Of GenocideOne of the most important aspects ofthe Red CrossReport is that itclarifies the true cause of those deaths thatundoubtedlyoccurred inthe camps toward the end of the war. Says the Report:"In thechaoticcondition of Germany after the invasion during the finalmonths ofthewar, the camps received no food supplies at all and starvationclaimedanincreasing number of victims. Itself alarmed by this situation,theGermanGovernment at last informed the ICRC on February 1st, 1945 ...InMarch 1945,discussions between the President of the ICRC andGeneral of theS.S.Kaltenbrunner gave even more decisive results.Relief could henceforthbedistributed by the ICRC, and one delegatewas authorised to stay in eachcamp..." (Vol. III, p. 83).Clearly, the German authorities were at painstorelieve the diresituation as far as they were able. The Red Cross arequiteexplicitin stating that food supplies ceased at this time due totheAlliedbombing of German transportation, and in the interests ofinternedJewsthey had protested on March 15th, 1944 against "thebarbarousaerial warfareof the Allies" (Inter Arma Caritas, p. 78). ByOctober2nd, 1944, the ICRCwarned the German Foreign Office of theimpendingcollapse of the Germantransportation system, declaringthatstarvation conditions for peoplethroughout Germany werebecominginevitable.In dealing with thiscomprehensive, three-volume Report,it isimportant to stress that thedelegates of the International RedCrossfound no evidence whatever at thecamps in Axis occupied Europe ofadeliberate policy to exterminate the Jews.In all its 1,600 pages theReportdoes not even mention such a thing as a gaschamber. It admitsthat Jews, likemany other wartime nationalities, sufferedrigours andprivations, but itscomplete silence on the subject ofplannedextermination is ample refutationof the Six Million legend. LiketheVatican representatives with whom theyworked, the Red Cross founditselfunable to indulge in the irresponsiblecharges of genocidewhich had becomethe order of the day. So far as thegenuine mortalityrate is concerned, theReport points out that most of theJewishdoctors from the camps were beingused to combat typhus on theeasternfront, so that they were unavailablewhen the typhus epidemics of1945broke out in the camps (Vol. I, p. 204ff) - Incidentally, itisfrequently claimed that mass executions werecarried out in gaschamberscunningly disguised as shower facilities. Againthe Reportmakes nonsense ofthis allegation. "Not only the washing places,butinstallations for baths,showers and laundry were inspected bythedelegates. They had often to takeaction to have fixtures madelessprimitive, and to get them repaired orenlarged" (Vol. III, p. 594).NotAll Were InternedVolume III of the Red CrossReport, Chapter 3 (I. JewishCivilianPopulation) deals with the "aid given tothe Jewish section ofthefree population," and this chapter makes it quiteplain that by nomeansall of the European Jews were placed in internmentcamps, butremained,subject to certain restrictions, as part of thefreecivilian population.This conflicts directly with the "thoroughness"ofthe supposed"extermination programme", and with the claim in theforged H�ssmemoirs thatEichmann was obsessed with seizing "everysingle Jew he could layhis handson."In Slovakia, for example, where Eichmann's assistant DieterWislicenywasin charge, the Report states that "A large proportion oftheJewish minorityhad permission to stay in the country, and atcertainperiods Slovakia waslooked upon as a comparative haven of refugeforJews, especially for thosecoming from Poland. Those who remainedinSlovakia seem to have been incomparative safety until the end ofAugust1944, when a rising against theGerman forces took place. Whileit is truethat the law of May 15th, 1942 hadbrought about theinternment of severalthousand Jews, these people were heldin campswhere the conditions of foodand lodging were tolerable, and wheretheinternees were allowed to do paidwork on terms almost equal to thoseofthe free labour market" (Vol. I, p.646).Not only did large numbers of thethree million or so European Jewsavoidinternment altogether, but theemigration of Jews continuedthroughout thewar, generally by way of Hungary,Rumania and Turkey.Ironically, post-warJewish emigration fromGerman-occupiedterritories was also facilitated by theReich, as in the caseof thePolish Jews who had escaped to France before itsoccupation. "TheJewsfrom Poland who, whilst in France, had obtained entrancepermits totheUnited States were held to be American citizens by theGermanoccupyingauthorities, who further agreed to recognize the validityofabout threethousand passports issued to Jews by the consulates ofSouthAmericancountries" (Vol. I, p. 645).As future U.S. citizens, these Jews wereheld atthe Vittel camp insouthern France for American aliens. The emigrationofEuropean Jewsfrom Hungary in particular proceeded during the warunhinderedby theGerman authorities. "Until March 1944," says the. RedCrossReport,"Jews who had the privilege of visas for Palestine were freetoleaveHungary" (Vol. I, p. 648). Even after the replacement oftheHorthyGovernment in 1944 (following its attempted armistice withtheSovietUnion) with a government more dependent on Germanauthority,theemigration of Jews continued.The Committee secured the pledgesof bothBritain and the UnitedStates "to give support by every means totheemigration of Jews fromHungary," and from the U.S. Government theICRCreceived a messagestating that "The Government of the United States ...nowspecificallyrepeats its assurance that arrangements will be made by itforthecare of all Jews who in the present circumstances are allowedtoleave"(Vol. I, p . 649).Biedermann agreed that in the nineteen instancesthat "DidSix MillionReally Die?" quoted from the Report of theInternationalCommittee ofthe Red Cross on its Activities during the SecondWorld War andInterArma Caritas (this includes the above material), it did soaccurately.Aquote from Charles Biedermann (a delegate of theInternationalCommittee ofthe Red Cross and Director of the RedCross'International Tracing Service)under oath at the Z�ndel Trial(February9, 10, 11 and12,1988).http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=2735http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/14645862&referer=brief_results ACTUALLY -- AND CONTRARY TOHISHIGHLY FLATTERING PUBLIC IMAGE -- THE RENOWNED "NAZI HUNTER" HASAWELL-DOCUMENTED BUT LITTLE-KNOWN RECORD OF DECEIT, MENDACITYANDPREVARICATION. SOME HIGHLIGHTS: Wiesenthal repeatedly lied about hisallegedrole in locating Adolf Eichmann, was consistently wrong about JosefMengele,and falsely accused Polish-American Frank Walus of having murderedJews inPoland as a Gestapo official. Wiesenthal has absurdly charged thattheGermans exterminated Jews in "electrocution chambers," and thattheymanufactured bars of soap from the bodies of murdered Jews. Hisdeceptionabout his own wartime activities prompted Austrian Chancellor BrunoKreisky(himself of Jewish ancestry) to accuse the "Nazi hunter" ofhavingcollaborated with his wartime oppressors. (For details aboutWiesenthal'srecord, see: M. Weber, "Simon Wiesenthal: Bogus Nazi Hunter,"The Journal ofHistorical Review, Winter 1989-90.) THE CANADIAN JEWISH NEWS,Jan. 30, 1992Wannsee's importance rejected London (JTA) - An IsraeliHolocaust scholarhas debunked the Wannsee Conference, at which top Naziofficials are said tohave gathered at a villa in a Berlin suburb in 1942 todraw the blueprintsof the "Final Solution." According to Prof. Yehuda Bauer(photo) of theHebrew University in Jerusalem, Wannsee was a meeting, "buthardly aconference", and "little of what was said there was executed indetail.""The public still repeats, time after time, the silly story that atWannseethe extermination of the Jews was arrived at." "I have never heldmyselfout to be a Holocaust expert, nor have I written books about what isnowcalled the Holocaust." "I have done my best to prepare the casethatfollows, but I respectfully submit that I do not have any duty tobecome anexpert on the Holocaust, my Lord." "I have never claimed to beaHolocaust historian. As I have said, I have no written no book abouttheHolocaust. I have written no article about it. If I have spoken aboutit,it is usually because somebody has asked me a question, I havebeenquestioned about it. On such occasions I have emphasised my lackofexpertise and I have expatiated only upon those areas with which Iamfamiliar."http://www.fpp.co.uk/Legal/Penguin/transcripts/day002.htm:"Now, you heard mesay in my opening statement, Mr Rampton, that I am notan expert on theHolocaust. What I would now say would be a figure withoutany valuewhatsoever." "Q. [Rampton] What you do you say about Sobibor,Treblinka,Belzec and Chelmno?" "A. [Irving] Nothing at all. I am notan expert."RJ.Winston Churchill wrote a five volume history of World WarII andnevermentioned the holocaust. He never mentioned it because he knewthattheholocaust was just wartime propaganda and he did not want to sullywhathehoped would be the definitive history of the war with propagandathatcommonsense alone could refute. I could go on but the evidence I speakofisavailable to The Jubilee readers from many patriotic sources eventhoughitis still widely censored by America's media and libraries.Ionceconsidered the battle over the holocaust as a great politicaltrumpcardallowing us to take back the moral high ground on the censorshipissuefromthe left. But I see now that it is much more important thanthat.Theholocaust is qualitatively different than the silly lies nationstelltheircitizens to get them so fired up they will send their children todieinforeign wars. The holocaust is not pre-war propaganda. Itispost-warpropaganda.Why do we need post World War II propaganda?BecauseWorld War II was thegreatest human catastrophe in two thousand yearsfor theAryan peoples andwe "gentiles" must not be allowed to see the truth.It wasmore than theslaughter of our racial kinsmen and the destruction ofourracial homeland.World War II was the most significant crossroadstheChristian nations havefaced since Herman faced the legions of Rome intheforests of Teutonberg2,000 years ago. But Herman won the battleofTeutonberg Wald. The Christianworld lost World War II. We lost becausewecame to a crossroads and wentthe wrong way.http://www.nafcash.com/Lestyouthink there must be some truth to the alleged Treblinka holocaust NAFCASHTMis offering a $250,000.00 REWARD For locating JUST ONE of the alleged"HUGEMASS GRAVES" of Treblinka NAFCASH TM presents THE TREBLINKA CRIMESCENEINVESTIGATION CHALLENGE TM You must scientifically - forensically provethegrave's EXACT location,its EXACT dimensions and its EXACTvolumetricdensity. The cremated remains must total AT LEAST one percent ofthe allegedmassmurder. JUST ONE MASS GRAVE! - JUSTONEPERCENT!http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/holohoax.htm HOW TO KEEPACADEMICSQUIET The Real Issue Is Israel's Human Rights Record: A statementby NormanG. Finkelstein upon publication of Beyond Chutzpah ProfessorAlanDershowitz of Harvard University is currently best known for hisadvocacyof the "most excruciating" torture against terrorist suspects suchas a"needle being shoved under the fingernails." The alleged purpose ofthistorture is to extract a truthful confession but its real consequence,ashuman rights organizations have pointed out, is to producewhateverstatements are necessary to end the suffering.For 15 monthsDershowitz hasapplied a variant of this truth-seeking technique -- lessphysicallypainful but no less excruciating -- to prospective publishers ofBeyondChutzpah, which offers a critical examination of Israel's humanrightsrecord and Dershowitz's defense of it. Enlisting one of the mostpowerfullaw firms in the country after his personal initiativesprovedunsuccessful, Dershowitz has repeatedly threatened to bankrupthighlyrespected publishers with litigation if they didn't cancel publicationofmy book. He could then proclaim that the cancellation confirmed the"truth"that Beyond Chutzpah didn't meet scholarly standards. Dershowitzjustifiedthese blackmail tactics on the ground that Beyond Chutzpah libelshim. Yet,when I first began to expose his gross scholarly misconduct,Dershowitzpublicly declared at UCLA (on 21 October 2003) that he wouldn'trespondwith a libel action because he believed "so strongly in theFirstAmendment and full freedom of speech." Ironically, just as hewasthreatening my publishers with expensive and time-consuminglawsuits,Dershowitz denounced Holocaust denier David Irving, who had suedDeborahLipstadt for libel, with these words: "Before Irving lost his case[againstLipstadt], several publishers had refused to issue books criticalofIrving, out of fear of his bringing expensive and time-consuminglawsuits.That was a chilling of free speech" (Afterword to Lipstadt'sHistory onTrial; his emphasis). My publisher, University of CaliforniaPress, wasunderstandably at great pains to fend off a potential lawsuitbyDershowitz; for an academic publisher the associated costs would havebeenruinous, to the point of making certain victory meaningless. Onoccasionour relationship became strained and at one point it appeared as ifwe hadreached an impasse. However, through the skillful mediation ofNationmagazine senior editor Roane Carey (who was the freelance editor ofBeyondChutzpah) and others, a satisfactory compromise was reached thatprotectedthe interests of both publisher and author, and, mostimportantly,preserved the integrity of the book. I would like personallyto extend myheartfelt thanks to all who supported me and the press duringthisdifficult period."Another Frenchman, Paul Rassinier, a pre-war communistandlater asocialist, had been a member of the French Resistance. Hewasarrested andinterned in concentration camps, among them Buchenwald. In1948he publisheda book Crossing the Line, in which he argued that peoplemighthave beenkilled in concentration camps, but that the perpetrators hadactedon theirown, not on orders from headquarters.AS WITH ABU GRAIB."Thesavingof the Jews in Europe did not figure at the head of the listofpriorities ofthe ruling class. It was the foundation of the State whichwasprimordial intheir eyes." "The masses of Jews from Hungary's ghettosobediently boardedthedeportation trains without knowing their fate. Theywere full ofconfidence in the false information that they were beingtransferredtoKenyermeze.The truth is that somewhere between 700,000 and1,500,000people died inGerman work camps in 1944 and 1945. Most of them wereJews.Many were not.Most of them died in the last six months of the warfromdisease and hungercaused by America's bombing of Germany andsubsequentdestruction of herinfrastructure. There were some atrocities butvery few.Few people realizethat the International Red Cross had a fieldoffice inAuschwiz from 1942 untilthe end of the war. That office neverreported orrecorded any atrocities (Several years agointernational Jewryforced the RedCross to apologize to the Jews -apologize for not seeingsomething thatnever happened.)Clearly, the German authorities were at painsto relieve thedire situationas far as they were able. The Red Cross arequite explicit instating thatfood supplies ceased at this time due to theAllied bombing ofGermantransportation, and in the interests of interned Jewsthey hadprotested onMarch 15th, 1944 against "the barbarous aerial warfareof theAllies" (InterArma Caritas, p. 78). By October 2nd, 1944, the ICRCwarnedthe GermanForeign Office of the impending collapse of theGermantransportationsystem, declaring that starvation conditions forpeoplethroughout Germanywere becoming inevitable.A Jewish woman named MarikaFrankarrived at Auschwitz-Birkenau from Hungaryin July 1944, when 25,000Jewswere supposedly gassed and cremated daily.She likewise testified afterthewar that she heard and saw nothing of "gaschambers" during the time shewasinterned there. She heard the gassingstories only later.[15]InmatesReleasedMore than 200,000 prisoners were transferred fromAuschwitz to othercamps,and about 8,000 were in the camp when it wasliberated by Sovietforces. Inaddition, about 1,500 prisoners who had servedtheir sentenceswerereleased, and returned to their home countries. [16] IfAuschwitzhadactually been a top secret extermination center, would theGermanshavereleased inmates who "knew" what was happening there?HimmlerOrdersDeath RateReducedhttp://www.ifamericansknew.org/http://www.ussliberty.org/"Asgard"<asg...@home.net wroteinmessagenews:zZadnTJAIc9c0_DY...@giganews.com...� Whataload of emotive old bollocks, bullshit and lies. The narrator statestheinmates were "starving' at Bergen Belsen, yet the vast majority oftheinmates look positively fat and shiny. He goes on to say those dead,haddied of starvation, yet earlier stated they'd not eaten for only 6days.The images of the dead showed mainly emaciated corpses, nothing likethepeople still moving around. If they'd died of "starvation", why hadthevasst majority of the inmates not suffered the same fate. Why, indeedwasitonly the corpses which were emaciated. What I foundparticularlyintersting, was significant incidence ofpetachiae on thebodies of thedead. THIS IS A CLASSIC SIGN OF EPIDEMIC TYPHUS. Thedocumentary was madein 2005, by a yid, and I note they're stillusing themythical 4millionfigure for deaths at Auschsitz. Haven't correctedthescript. They alsostate, quite clearly, there were 6m jewish deaths incamps. No mention ofthe supposed Einzatzgroupen. The entire documentary isa farcical attemptheighten the victimhoodstatus of yids. Any of theexperts like tocomment? Keenan? You're an expert oneverything. Gord,likewise. McFey? Gotany answers chaps? I look forward to your attempts toshoot this onedown.Russian troops marched into Berlin on April 24, 1945,they found 800Jewsalive and well in Berlin'sJewishhospital.http://www.rense.com/general80/800.htmhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/april/21/newsid_3560000/3560175.stm51 Documents:ZionistCollaboration WiththeNazishttp://www.wrmea.com/archives/Sept_2004/0409086.htmlCHECK THEWHOLEHOLOHOAXINGBUNCH.http://images.google.co.id/images?hl=id&um=1&sa=1&q=%2251+documents%22&btnG=Telusuri+gambar&aq=f&oq=&start=0The Alternative Tourof Auschwitz: AnIndependent Investigationofthehttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4138523842550891901#0h53m09s"Topaz" <mars...@hotmail.com wroteinmessagenews:pklr449roj8r6c7uf...@4ax.com... "Theorthodoxholocaust story can not possibly be defended with rationalargumentsbecause its absurdity is overwhelming. We are asked to believe inthe fatamorgana of a vast slaughter in killing factories which left notraceswhatsoever - no documents, no bones, no teeth, no ashes - nothing!We arefurther asked to believe that the Allies, who had a large networkofinformers all over Europe and a spy in the German leadership(AdmiralCanaris, the head of the German intelligence), did not becomeaware ofthis gigantic genocide until the end of the war, for if they hadknownabout the mass murder, they would have acted to stop it. Finally, weareasked to believe that the Jews in Poland, the epicentre of theholocaust,did not know anything about the Auschwitz gas chambers as lateas inAugust 1944, otherwise the Jews from the Lodz ghetto would not havegoneto Auschwitz voluntarily - which is precisely what they did, asrelated byRaul Hilberg in his standard work about the holocaust (DieVernichtung dereuropaeischen Juden, p. 543/544). As the Zionist-controlledsystem of the"Western democracies" is woefully unable to counter therevisionists witharguments, it resorts to censorship and brute force inorder to silencethe dangerous heretics. And the Jews are graduallytransforming theholocaust into a religion. This is a very clever strategy,for as RobertFaurisson aptly remarks, one cannot refute a religion withscientificarguments. Thus, the holocaust museums and holocaust monumentsspreadinglike mushrooms all over America and Europe are really temples ofthe newreligion, whereas professional "holocaust survivors" such as ElieWieselare the priests of the new religion. To prove this assertion, weonly haveto quote Wiesel himself: "The Holocaust is a holy mystery, thesecret ofwhich is limited to the circle of the priesthood of survivors"(PeterNovick, The Holocaust in American Life, 1999, p. 211, 212,retranslatedfrom the German). Another high priest of the holocaust cult,SimonWiesenthal, goes even further: "When each of us comes before theSixMillion, we will be asked what we did with our lives... I will say: Ididnot forget you" (Simon Wiesenthal in Response, Vol. 20, Nr. 1).Nocritical questions about the holocaust are allowed because they areablasphemy: They cause immense distress to the eternal victimsofpersecution, the Jews, and are an attempt to whitewash National Socialism - the most evil ideology of all times which made theholocaustpossible! In today's Germany, it is even considered inadmissibletocompare the holocaust with the atrocities of communist tyrants suchasStalin or Cambodian dictator Pol Pot because this is regarded asa"relativisation" and "trivialization" of the worst crime inhistory.French Zionist propagandist Claude Lanzmann, the producer of a longandunspeakably dull film about the holocaust (the title of this film isShoa,the Hebrew word for "catastrophe", which is often used by Jews asasynonym for "holocaust") makes no effort to conceal that theholocaustcult is to replace Christianity: "If Auschwitz is something otherthan ahorror of history, then Christianity totters in its foundations.Christ isthe Son of God, who went to the end of the humanely endurable,where heendured the cruellest suffering. (...) If Auschwitz is true, thenthere isa human suffering with which that of Christ simply cannot becompared.(...) In this case, Christ is false, and salvation will not comefrom him.(...) Auschwitz is the refutation of Christ." (Les temps modernes,Paris,December 1993, p. 132, 133.) Nowadays, a large percentage of theJews donot believe in God any more, but virtually all of them believe inthe SixMillion. The Zionist leadership cunningly exploits the holocaust tounitethe World's Jews by keeping them in a constant state of hysteriaandpersecution mania, insinuating that only if the Jews stick togetherwillthey be able to ban the threat of a new holocaust. It goes withoutsayingthat very few Non-Jews are willing to embrace the murkyholocaustreligion. While the overwhelming majority of people in the Weststillbelieve that the official holocaust version is essentially true (evenifthey suspect that the figures might me somewhat inflated), theyarethoroughly fed up with the eternal lamentation about Jewish victimsandJewish suffering. They simply don't want to hear it any more. InGermany,opinion polls showed that a vast majority of the population wasagainstthe planned holocaust monument in Berlin (which not a single majorparty,not a single leading politician and not a single big newspaper daredtooppose). Privately, the politicians are probably as profoundlydisgustedwith the endless holocaust litany as the rest of the population,but theycannot possibly afford to let the revisionists win because thiswouldshatter the very foundations of the "democratic" system to which theyowntheir careers and their wealth... The ultimate weapon against Zionismandthe state of Israel At the end of the year 2000, Israel is abesiegedcountry, but from the military point of view, it is still vastlysuperiorto its neighbours, and it enjoys the unconditional support of theUnitedStates. Should any of the Islamic states grow strong enough toseriouslythreaten Israel, it would most probably be attacked andmilitarilyannihilated by America. Russia is not likely to risk aconfrontation withthe USA for the sake of the Palestinians. We cancertainly admire thebravery of the Palestinians resistance fighters whoare willing tosacrifice their lives to liberate their homeland from thealien intruders,but realistically, they have no chance to win. ThePalestinians havestones and slings. The Israelis have helicopters andtanks. You can'tdestroy helicopters and tanks with stones and slings.When fightingone's enemy, one should always look for his weakest spot. Theweakest spotof Israel, its Achilles heel, is the holocaust lie to which itowes itsexistence. The revisionists can give the adversaries of Israelandinternational Zionism a terrible weapon. It is quite true thatmanyrevisionists are by no means guided by political considerations. Someofthem - Carlo Mattogno is a good example - are only motivatedbyintellectual curiosity: They want to ascertain what really happened totheJews during the Second World War. But even if revisionism is notapolitical movement, its political implications are tremendous.Therevisionists are endeavouring to find out the truth, and truth isthedeadliest enemy of Israel and international Jewry. Thus, therevisionistsobjectively work against Israel and Zionism, even ifsubjectively theirgoals are often purely scientific and devoid of anypolitical ambition.This is, of course, the reason why they are persecutedand their booksburnt in more and more countries. In view of the totalJewish mediacontrol and the ever-growing anti-revisionist repression inmany Westerncountries, it is very difficult indeed to achieve arevisionistbreakthrough. We revisionists are facing an uphill strugglewhich can onlypartly be explained by our total lack of financialresources. Fortunatelythe internet, which the Jews are unable to censure,has greatly improvedour possibilities to make the results of our researchknown to the World,but all the same, we should not cherish naiveillusions: Not every citizenof the Western world who is informed about therevisionist arguments willautomatically become revisionist andanti-Zionist. The average person inthe West - and particularly in Germany - has been so thoroughlybrainwashed that a sudden exposure tothe truth can provoke a nervousbreakdown or stomach cramps. I haverepeatedly witnessed this myself.Other people would gladly accept thetruth about the holocaust, but asthey know that even the slightestsuspicion of revisionism leads to socialostracism, economic ruin and legalpersecution, they understandably prefernot to get involved. However, if wewant to win the war against those whomone of my Russian friends called"the enemies of God and mankind".. Thelogical consequence of all this isthat those countries which areauthentically anti-Zionist and real friends ofthe oppressed Palestinianpeople should make the breakthrough of holocaustrevisionism theirforemost priority. A tank costs millions of dollars, yetone soldier candestroy it with a single missile. The revisionists canprovideanti-Zionist freedom fighters with a weapon not even a thousandmissilescan destroy." http://www.ihr.org/http://www.natvan.comhttp://www.thebirdman.orghttp://www.nsm88.com/http://wsi.matriots.com/jews.htmlWell the claim thatthey were fighting fora homeland might float, howeverif the are still moreconcerned about jewishaims and dreams than weighingthis of with therequirements of the other nonjewish citizens in thecountries in which theyreside, then obviously the nonjewish citizens havereason to object andignore their claims at the expenseof their own wealth, lives andwellbeing.We have already paid a top pricefor assisting jews in theirselfish selfishself centred aims.Casualties inWW2Not including thedocumented 5 million non Jewish in concentrationcampswho far out numberedthe suspected true number of Jewish victims. Andthisis without lies andexaggerations about non jewish cassualities.SovietUnion 25,568,000China11,324,000Germany 7,060,000Poland 6,850,000Japan1,806,000Yugoslavia1,700,000Rumania 985,000France 810,000Austria525,000Italy 410,000GreatBritain 388,000USA 295,000Holland 250,000Belgium85,000Finland 79,000Canada42,000India 36,000Australia 29,000Albania28,000Spain 22,000Bulgaria21,000New Zealand 12,000Norway 10,000South Africa9,000Luxembourg5,000Denmark 4,000TOTAL 58,353,000The Jewish ghetto policealways had theoption, she said, of "throwing offtheir uniforms and joiningthe rest ofus" - a point that Yitzak Zuckerman,a leader of the Warsawghetto uprising,made inhismemoir.http://www.theexperiment.org/articles.php?news_id=2139WithoutJewishco operation through the zionists the Germans would neverhave hadtheresources to herd the Jews into the various camps. And thezionists madeitimpossible for the underground to trust the jews.Like elsewhere, theonlypeople who had the information and the ear of thefrightenedJewishpopulation were the Judenrat. In this case the Judenratcomprisedmainly theZionist Federation members. Without their help the SS,with 19officers andless than 90 men, plus a few hundred Hungarian police,could nothavecollected and controlled a million Jews, when they did noteven knowtheirwhereabouts.So no reluctance amongst jews as they knew that they weresimplybeingencamped._____________________________________THE PROBLEM BEINGTHATTHE ONLY WILD AND WEIRD ACCOUNTS OF UNTRAMMELLEDHORROR CAME FROMONLYJEWS.NON JEWS COMPLETELY CONTRADICTED THE WILD STORIES FROMTHECONTRACTINGMUSCLES TO THE SOAP AND TATTOOED LAMPSHADES, ALL BS.DuringWorldWarII, Rassinier was a highly decorated member of the FrenchResistance.InOctober of 1943 he was arrested by the Gestapo forvariousactivitiesincluding the smuggling of Jewish refugees over theFranco-Swissborder took2 years to publish his book because of persistentresistanceby thejewishclique.http://www.ihr.org/books/rassinier/debunking1-0.htmlhttp://www.ihr.org/books/hoggan/A4.htmlhttp://www.fpp.co.uk/bookchapters/articles/HowWarsBegin.htmlhttp://www.anti-rev.org/textes/VidalNaquet92a/part-6.htmlhttp://www.alibris.com/search/books/author/Paul_RassinierBut the huge moneyinvolved inthe reparations won out and we have anothertrue report labeled asa revisionagainst the lies that were spread andapparently plenty of jewishand jewishsupporters willing to jump on thebandwagon and build up thestories, supplyall sorts of shonky evidence tosupport the lies.And of coursethe jewishmoney made it very iffy for experts to testifybecause of theconstantarttacks , false ads on the net. in books and byevery jew and hismother ofall ages whose chances of being either witnessesof involvedwere/are slimmerbut apparently the courts i n Germany also helpthe cause offalsifyingevidence.Although even honest jews could not sway the lies andFinklesteinlikeRassinier, HarryElmerBarnes(http://www.amazon.com/Perpetual-Peace-Harry-Elmer-Barnes/dp/0939484013http://www.courts.fsnet.co.uk/harryelmerbarnes.htm and of courseyouwillfind the jewish supporters here labelling him as a revisionistbecausehedid not agree withtheirversionhttp://www.revisionists.com/revisionists/barnes.htmlhttp://tmh.floonet.net/articles/barnes.html ), CharlesA.Beard(http://www.questia.com/read/6153679?title=Cross%20Currents%20in%20Europe%20To-Dayhttp://www.questia.com/SM.qst ) ,HermanHesse(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Complete_Fairy_Tales_of_Hermann_Hesse ) confession is from Hoess. Here are the details: "In theintroductionto Death Dealer [Buffalo: Prometheus, 1992], the historianSteven Paskulywrote: "Just after his capture in 1946, the British SecurityPolice wereable to extract a statement from Hoess by beating him andfilling him withliquor." Paskuly was reiterating what Rupert Butler andBernard Clarke hadalready described. In 1983, Rupert Butler published anunabashed memoir(Legions of Death, Hamlyn: London) describing in graphicdetail how, overthree days, he and Clarke and other British policemenmanaged to tortureHoess into making a "coherent statement." According toButler [Legions ofDeath, p. 237], he and the other interrogators put theboots to Hoess themoment he was captured. For starters, Clarke struck hisface four times toget H�ess to reveal his true identity. <quote Theadmission suddenlyunleashed the loathing of Jewish sergeants in thearresting party whoseparents had died in Auschwitz following an ordersigned by H�ss. Theprisoner was torn from the top bunk, the pajamas rippedfrom his body. Hewas then dragged naked to one of the slaughter tables,where it seemed toClarke the blows and screams were endless. Eventually,the Medical Officerurged the Captain: "Call them off, unless you want totake back a corpse."A blanket was thrown over H�ss and he was dragged toClarke's car, wherethe sergeant poured a substantial slug of whisky downhis throat. H�sstried to sleep. Clarke thrust his service stick underthe man's eyelidsand ordered in Geffnan: "Keep your pig eyes open, youswine." For thefirst time H�ss trotted out his oft-repeated justification:"I took myorders from Himmler. I was a soldier in the same way as youare a soldierand we had to obey orders." The party arrived back at Heidearound threein the morning. The snow was swirling still, but theblanket was tornfrom H�ss and he was made to walk completely nudethrough the prisonyard to his cell. </quote An article in the Britishnewspaper WrexhamLeader [Mike Mason, "In a cell with a Nazi warcriminal-We kept him awakeuntil he confessed," October 17, 1986] followingthe airing of a TVdocumentary on the case of Rudolf Hoess includedeyewitness recollectionsby Ken Jones: <quote Mr. Ken Jones was then aprivate with the FifthRoyal Horse Artillery stationed at Heid[e] inSchleswig-Holstein. "Theybrought him to us when he refused to cooperateover questioning abouthis activities during the war. He came in thewinter of 1945/6 and wasput in a small jail cell in the barracks," recallsMr. Jones. Two othersoldiers were detailed with Mr. Jones to join H�ss inhis cell to helpbreak him down for interrogation. "We sat in the cellwith him, night andday, armed with axe handles. Our job was to prod himevery time he fellasleep to help break down his resistance," said Mr.Jones. When H�sswas taken out for exercise he was made to wear onlyjeans and a cottonshirt in the bitter cold. After three days and nightswithout sleep,H�ss finally broke down and made a full confession to theauthorities.</quote The confession Hoess signed was numbered documentNO-1210; laterrevamped, as document PS-3868, which became the basis for anoraldeposition Hoess made for the IMT on April 15, 1946, a month after ithadbeen extracted from him by torture... Since what people confess toafterthey have been captured by the Communists and their liberal comradesisnot proof of anything, this leaves only the stories of survivors.Thesecontradict each other and not believable. One professional survivorsaidthat he could tell if the Germans were gassing German Jews or PolishJewsby the color of the smoke. The fact that there are so many"survivors"is not proof of an extermination plan. There may be six millionsurvivors.Just about every Jew that is old says he is a survivor.FrederickBausman(http://www.thenation.com/archive/detail/13677001 ) allthe honestteachersand historians were labelled nazi , which of course theywerent, butif youpoint out the lies the only support you are going to getis from antisemiticgroups.And of course there is the decent honest jew tired of thelies.Astatement by Norman G. Finkelstein upon publication ofBeyondChutzpahhttp://www.nowar-paix.ca/nowar/forum/6973http://666ismoney.com/HolocaustAds.htmlI, Raquel Baranow am a Grad Student of Holocaust Denial.Thereare personswith PhD's in various fields whoalso deny the 6 millioncanard.The best evidence is forensic. Untilrecently, there was neveraforensicexamination of the alleged murder weapon (gas chambers).Demographicfiguresare incomplete. After the fallof East Europe to communism,many ofthe millions of Jews who fled Polandinto the Soviet Union or endedupbehindthe Iron Curtain changed their names to assimilate, manyciviliansdied inthe war, many died in theconcentration camps of louse-borntyphus. DuringWorld War One, two millioncivilians in the Soviet Union diedoftyphus. Manydied in Stalin's gulags.YadVashem,(http://www.yadvashem.org/wps/portal/IY_HON_Welcome)aHolocaustDocumentationCenter in Israel has a database of 3,000,000 allegedvictimsofNaziextermination. But as you canseeHERE(http://666ismoney.com/YadVashem.html) (my maiden name,Friedemann),nearlyevery name is listed at leasttwice, some as many asfivetimes!http://www.yadvashem.org/lwp/workplace/IY_HON_WelcomeYadVashem's3,000,000 "Holocaust victims" database lists nearlyeveryone twice.Some asmany at five times. Anyone, includingyou can submit a "PageofTestimony".And of course we have lists duplicated, unconfirmed, but3maccording to ourusual jewish/Zionist sources.Put your name in, you mightbemissing out on reparations.Has been improvements since this, numbersstillvery dicey.Name Town District RegionCountry Bday SourceFriedemannAdolfBerlin Berlin Berlin Germany1879 list of victims fromGermanyFriedemannAdolf Berlin Berlin Berlin Germany1879 list of deportationfromBerlinFriedemann Adolf Berlin Berlin Berlin Germany1905 list ofdeportationfrom BerlinIt is forensically impractical or impossible toexterminatemillions withlouse disinfestant (hydrogen cyanide gas)or dieselexhaust asalleged by malicious "witnesses" or torturedconfessors. There areno writtenorders forextermination. Aerial reconnaissance photographs oftheconcentration campsshow no smoke and flamesbelching from the crematoriaandpyres as alleged. The photos and recordsshow there was not enoughcokeorcrematoria to cremate millions of corpses. The "witnesses"andconfessorslied about how many minutes it takesto cremate a corpse.Dieselexhaust does not contain significant amount ofcarbon monoxide to killahuman. Ifthe Nazis wanted to kill millions they could have driven thecoalfiredtrain into a tunnel or quonset hut and gassed'em with the exhaustfromthe locomotive or used the exhaust from thecrematoria. At Auschwitz,duringa typhusepidemic, up to 300 people died per day, hence thecrematoria,shaving ofheads and requisitions for tons ofZyklon B lousedisinfestant. HCNis a very dangerous, impractical, messymethodforextermination.http://www.vho.org/The Holocaust Controversy A Case foropenDebateThe Gas Chambers are a fraud, a tourist attraction,slander,demonizing,impractical/impossible, maliciousatrocity propagandaspread bythe communists, who hated Hitler andperpetrated by Jews, whowerealwayslooking for ways to get to the lands of milk and money. TheJewshaveextorted billions from the US Treasury,Germany, Swiss banksandinsurance companies on account of the Holohoaxfraud. The Holohoaxalsomakesthose who fought Hitler feel like they did something goodfightingthedemon, Hitler instead of letting Hitler takeon Stalin alone.A"liberal"person has an open mind. A bigot is irrational and obstinate.Andthen wehave the honest red cross with no ulterior motives.The NewBlasphemyby TomBlairNews Editor, The JubileeThere was a time when a man didnot blasphemeGod in America. There weresevere social proscriptions againstit. Somecommunities even had lawsagainst blasphemy. Well blasphemy is stilla greatsin in America and maysoon be a crime again. But sadly America has anew godand so, a newblasphemy.Let me here commit the new blasphemy while itisstill legal. What we knowas the "holocaust" is largely war-timepropaganda.Propaganda that, unlikemost war-time propaganda, was not quietlyforgotten.Instead it hascontinued; grown more fantastic, more hateful, andmoredangerous toquestion every year since 1945.The truth is thatsomewherebetween 700,000 and 1,500,000 people died inGerman work camps in1944 and1945. Most of them were Jews. Many were not.Most of them died in thelastsix months of the war from disease and hungercaused by America's bombingofGermany and subsequent destruction of herinfrastructure. There weresomeatrocities but very few. Few people realizethat the International RedCrosshad a field office in Auschwiz from 1942until the end of the war.Thatoffice never reported or recorded anyatrocities (Several yearsagointernational Jewry forced the Red Cross toapologize to the Jews -apologizefor not seeing something that neverhappened.)� WARNING To PeopleinAustria; Belgium; France; Germany; Israel; Spain and Switzerland.Youcan be fined, imprisoned or both for discussing the topics setforthin this article.It was only after I moved to the Los Angeles areaseveralyears ago that Irealized that many people were not aware thatmillions ofvictims of theHolocaust were NOT Jewish. Outside the Polishcommunity, Iheard very littlemention about the five million non-Jewishvictims -- usuallyreferred to as"the othersSubject: Israeli rabbi backsJewish suicide attacksOrganization: Copyright1997 by Reuters Lines: 43Date: Tue, 8 Apr 19979:22:44 PDT Kidnappings, Beatings, Murders andHangingsAttacks by the Irgunand Stern Gang - In 1944, with the end the warinsight, Irgun, now under theleadership of Menachem Begin , the futurePrimeMinister of Israel 1977-83,began to attack the British administrationinPalestine, starting with bombattacks on the immigration offices,taxoffices and policestations.http://www.britains-smallwars.com/Palestine/kidnap.htmThe Americanswerestrongly pro Jewish and very anti British. One Hollywoodmotion pictureMoguldeclared in the British press that he had a holiday inhis heart everytime aBritish soldier was killed in Palestine. and largesections of theAmericanmedia echoed this sentiment.November 27 -Eight British soldierskilled inbomb attack on police station Jerusalem,Palestine, in Jewish Irgunterroristattack.http://www.cdiss.org/terror_1940s.htmJuly 22 - Ninetypeople killedand forty five wounded after Jewishterrorists blow up the KingDavid Hotelin Jerusalem, Palestine, which washome to British government andmilitaryoffices. The terrorists held workersat pistol point while theyplanted theexplosives in the basement of thehotel.July 12 - Jewish Irgunterroristskidnap and then hang two British Armysergeants. The terroristswere tryingto secure the release of three Irgunmembers who had beensentenced to deathby the British authorities inPalestine.September 29 -Jewish Irgunterrorists bomb police station in Haifa,Palestine, killing fourBritish andfour Arab policemen, as well as two Arabcivilians. Forty sixpeopleinjured.http://forum.cari.com.my/archiver/?tid-117974.htmlDecember4,1948New Palestine PartyVisit of Menachem Begin and Aims ofPoliticalMovement DiscussedTO THE EDITORS OF THE NEW YORK TIMES:Among themostdisturbing political phenomena of our times is the emergencein thenewlycreated state of Israel of the "Freedom Party" (Tnuat Haherut),apoliticalparty closely akin in its organization, methods,politicalphilosophy andsocial appeal to the Nazi and Fascist parties. It wasformedout of themembership and following of the former Irgun Zvai Leumi,aterrorist,right-wing, chauvinist organization in Palestine.Attack on ArabVillageAshocking example was their behavior in the Arab village of DeirYassin.Thisvillage, off the main roads and surrounded by Jewish lands, hadtakenno partin the war, and had even fought off Arab bands who wanted to usethevillageas their base. On April 9 (THE NEW YORK TIMES), terroristbandsattacked thispeaceful village, which was not a military objective inthefighting, killedmost of its inhabitants - 240 men, women, andchildren -and kept a few ofthem alive to parade as captives through thestreets ofJerusalem. Most ofthe Jewish community was horrified at the deed,and theJewish Agency sent atelegram of apology to King Abdullah ofTrans-Jordan.But the terrorists, farfrom being ashamed of their act, wereproud of thismassacre, publicized itwidely, and invited all the foreigncorrespondentspresent in the country toview the heaped corpses and thegeneral havoc atDeir Yassin.The Deir Yassinincident exemplifies thecharacter and actions of theFreedom Party.(signed)Isidore Abramowitz, HannahArendt, Abraham Brick, Rabbi JessurunCardozo,Albert Einstein, Herman Eisen,M.D., Hayim Fineman, M. Gallen, M.D.,H.H.Harris, Zelig S. Harris, SidneyHook, Fred Karush, Bruria Kaufman, IrmaL.Lindheim, Nachman Maisel, SymourMelman, Myer D. Mendelson, M.D., HarryM.Orlinsky, Samuel Pitlick, FritzRohrlich, Louis P. Rocker, RuthSager,Itzhak Sankowsky, I.J. Schoenberg,Samuel Shuman, M. Znger, IrmaWolpe,Stefan WolpeNew York, Dec.2,1948[/quote]http://comment.independent.co.uk/commentators/article1197235.ece"B.H. Cramer" <benj...@yourservice.com wroteinmessagenews:4MKdnSvnVuD_lmrV...@giganews.com... "JasonP"<jas...@REMOVE.gmail.com wrote inmessagenews:xY6dndIdJenal2rV...@earthlink.com... "B.H.Cramer"<benj...@yourservice.com wrote inmessagenews:fvmdnZT_ff_ILmnV...@giganews.com... NEVERFORGET:"Deborah Lipstadt, author of the anti-revisionistpolemicDenying theHolocaust, has assigned [Binjamin Wilkormiski's book]Fragmentsin her Emory University class on Holocaust memoirs. Whenconfrontedwithevidence that it is a fraud [the author spent the war incomfort inSwitzerland, not Auschwitz, and was not even a Jew], shecommentedthatthe new revelations 'might complicate matters somewhat,but [the work]is still powerful.'" - In other words, whocares aboutfact or fiction where the Holocaustis concerned? Andshe had theclassic Jew audacity to discredit David Irving, andthen makenews aboutit, going on TV with her Jewtardian anti-revisionismsoundbites.Jason P Lipstadt is a disgusting, ugly, lying jewess, who is a tadsmarterthan cohen. Here's some questions put to the slag which she hasneveracknowledged. Questions for Lipstadt WE ARE often asked forquestions toput to Professor Lipstadt in her well-funded peregrinationsaround theworld. ________________________________________ . . . here arejust afew: 1. Prof. Lipstadt - why were you afraid to go into the witnessboxand expose yourself even to the questioning of an amateur likeMr.Irving?You effectively pleaded the Fifth Amendment, which isthetraditional routeof those with something to hide. (Mr. Irvingsubjectedhimself voluntarilyto three weeks' cross examination by one ofthe world'sleading triallawyers, and he voluntarily made available to youhis entireprivate and public papers.) 2. are you aware that one of yourmainresearchers, Dr. David Cesarani,said that Mr. Irving gave the defencesomescary moments, particularly whentheir chief expert witness onthearchitecture of Auschwitz, Prof. Van Pelt, proved unable to explainwhathad happened to the bodies (i.e. thelogistics of disposing, forexample,of 450,000 Hungarian Jews' bodies in three weeks - around 50,000tons ofcorpses, by a small Sonderkommando in one crematory building)[Internetlink: see http://www.fpp.co.uk/docs/trial3/DieZeit120400e.html]3. whydid you not accept David Irving's challenge, made three timespublicly inthe courtroom, that he would halt the case in mid-trial ifyoucould findany evidence of the holes in the roof slab of Crematorium IIatAuschwitz -which still exists - through which "eye witnesses" in the payofwar-crimesprosecution teams claimed to have seen SS officers tipping theZyklon Bgranules? Your own chief witness Van Pelt said there are no suchholes inthe slab, so somebody lied, right? 4. why are you afraid of freedebate?You have said there is no debate,but when push came to shove yourhighlypaid Queen's Counsel felt itnecessary to fill the courtroom everyday forthree months with over thirtylawyers, counsel, barristers,assistants,historians, and researchers, just tostand up against Mr.Irving, whoappeared in court alone. Was your case really that weak? 5.why have youand your friends done all you can to muzzle Mr. Irving -byputtingpressure on publishers, broadcasters, television companies,andgovernments not to allow him to speak or to publish hiswidelyacknowledgedbooks? What are you scared of? 6. in a trial which wasabout a veryserious matter, why did you instruct your counsel to resort tosmeartactics, branding Mr. Irving as an anti-Semite and a racist (althoughhe,unlike your Counsel, frequently employs ethnic minorities as hispersonalstaff), and although neither allegation was made in your book orpleadedin your initial Defence? Were you frightened of fighting the caseon thefacts of history? 7. how much money have you made out of thistrial(articles, speakingfees, etc.) already? That's what it's about, isn'tit -money? 8. do you think it right that your lawyers paid some of yoursocalled "neutral" expert witnesses a quarter of a million dollarsininducementsto testify in your favour? Those six million dollars put upbySteven Spielberg - you are a religious scholar: Have you never heardtheBiblesay, "Good wine needs no bush"? If your case is rock solid why wassomuchmoney swilling around that London courtroom? [Internetlink:http://www.fpp.co.uk/Legal/Penguin/experts/payments.html] 9. a newZealandacademic tribunal has just found that Prof. RichardEvans, yourchiefwitness, was guilty of grossly distorting, misquoting, exaggerating,andpolemicizing in his similar "expert report" on Dr. Joel Hayward,andtotally lacking in the objectivity that is expected by acourt of anexpertwitness. How do you feel about Evans now? [Internetlink:http://www.fpp.co.uk/Legal/Penguin/experts/Evans/NZReportExtract.html]10.have you read Norman Finkelstein's book, The Holocaust Industry. Ishearacist and anti-Semite too? 11. you have argued in your books andarticlesthat Jews should neverstoop to marrying outside their religion andrace.Is that not racism in its purest and most evil form? 12. who paidyourown multi-million dollar legal expenses, and why didthe BritishHighCourt, unusually, not allow you to reclaim them? 13. Judge Gray foundinhis Judgment that three of the statements youmade in your book againstMrIrving are in fact serious lies just as heclaimed (the Stockholmterroristconference, the Hitler painting "above hisdesk", the stealing ordamagingof the Goebbels diaries from the Moscowarchives. Have you removedthemfrom the book's latest editions?) (Answer: You have not).What fraud?Stoptrying to divert attention from whats important here. Also,how hasDavidIrving got anything to do w/ 'reactivating the Nazi Party'?He'sahistorian - also used to be a very famous one too, until herealisedthetruth & stopped writing about the 'Holocaust', THAT was hiscrime. Ialsobelieved in it until I started looking at all these reports. Q:Ifthere wasa 100% certainty it never happened, what evidence would stopyoubelieving? A: NONE while you accept thestausquo.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_dQz86Ve8whttp://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=102884http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtCJtbSMiDw&feature=relatedhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3JI-axaRF4&feature=relatedGUTLESSWONDERS TAKE A LOOK AT SOME REAL GUTSY PEOPLE WHO ARENT ON THEIRKBEES ASSOONAS YOU MENTION JEW.the killing of Rachel Corrie a non Jewish Americanwho waskilled by the IDFby being run down by a bulldozer,and the driverthen drivingpast the grieving peace vo;unteers with a smirkon his face.AndapparentlyChristian america along with Christian Americans have not hadaword tosay.Just compare the differencebelow.http://www.thenausea.com/elements/thenotforgotten/rachel/index.htmlhttp://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/03/16/rafah.death/ One guy gets10years, the other gets a raise and promotion?? For killinga nonjewishamerican? And gets to smirk about it?JEWS CANNOT DO ENOUGH FOR ANAMERICANJEW? WOULD U SAY JEWS ARE USINGNONJEWISHAMERICANS.http://www.jonathanpollard.org/1993/051693.htmCompoundingtheduplicity swirling around the case was the jurors'remarkable verdict:Mr.Nelson was indeed guilty of depriving his victim ofhis civil rightsbystabbing him - but not by killing him. Thus, instead ofa possiblelifesentence, the murderer, with credit for time served, may bea free man inamatter of months.http://www.jlaw.com/Commentary/3dayriot.htmlIt is thuswithintense interest that we watch as a federal jury in Brooklynhears thecaseof United States vs. Lemrick Nelson, Jr. and CharlesPrice --respectively,the accused killer of Yankel Rosenbaum, and the manchargedwith inciting themob that pursued Rosenbaum. As Coalition goes topress,the trial has finallybegun and the prosecution is presentingpowerfulevidence against thetwodefendantshttp://www.thenausea.com/elements/thenotforgotten/rachel/index.htmlhttp://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/03/16/rafah.death/HOW ABOUTYOUBETRAYING THE USA AND IT'S ALLIES?????HOW ABOUT YOUR SHIPMATES 0- SORRYGOODEHOUGH?http://www.ussliberty.com/challenge.htm - $10,000 challenge -TheLibertyVeterans Association offers a $10,000 reward to anyone whocanestablish thetruth of A. Jay Cristol'sclaim:1http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig/margolis12.htmlAt 0800 hrs, 8 June,1967,eight Israeli recon flights flew over 'Liberty,'which was flying alargeAmerican flag. At 1400 hrs, waves of low-flyingIsraeli MystereandMirage-III fighter-bombers repeatedly attacked theAmerican vesselwithrockets, napalm, and cannon. The air attacks lasted 20minutes,concentratingon the ship's electronic antennas and dishes. The'Liberty' wasleft afire,listing sharply. Eight of her crew lay dead, ahundred seriouslywounded,including the captain,CommanderWilliamMcGonagle.http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/sh-usn/usnsh-l/agtr5.htmOn the afternoon of 8 June 1967, while in international waters offtheSinaiPeninsula, Liberty, though clearly marked as a U.S. Navy ship,wasstruck byIsraeli aircraft. After suffering damage and manypersonnelcasualties fromgunfire, rockets and bombs, she was further attackedby threeIsraeli Navymotor torpedo boats. One torpedo hit her on thestarboard side,forward ofthe superstructure, opening a large hole in herhull. In all,thirty-fourmen were killed in the attacks and nearly 170wounded. Israelsubsequentlyapologized for the incident, explaining that itsair and navalforces hadmistaken the Liberty for a much smaller EgyptianNavyship.December 12 - Twenty Arabs, five Jews and two Britishsoldierskilled andthirty wounded in Jewish terrorist bomb attacks on busesin HaifaandRamleh, Palestine. British mandate to rule Palestine ends on 15May1948;state of Israel established.December 29 - Jewish Irgunterroriststhrow grenades from passing taxi intocaf� near the Damascus gate,Jerusalem,Palestine, killing eleven Arabs andtwo Britishpolicemen.March11Headquarters of the Jewish Agency, Jerusalem, Palestine,destroyed byArabcar bomb killing thirteen and injuring eighty four.April9Jewish Irgunterrorist group attacks Deir Yassim, Palestine, murderingtwohundred andfifty four Arab women and children captured in the remainsofthevillage.JEWS APPEAR TO BE THE ONLY ONES WITH VOICES, WHAT HAS HPPENEDTOTHEPREVIOUSLY VOCIFEROUS WASPS, and other religious and nonreligiousgroups.ONE JEWISH HOLLYWOOD MOTION PICTURE MOGULThe the JewishcontrolledAmerican media proclaimed Americans were stronglypro Jewish andvery antiBritish. One Hollywood motion picture Moguldeclared in the Britishpressthat he had a holiday in his heart every timea British soldier waskilled inPalestine. and large sections of theAmerican media echoedthissentiment.http://hnn.us/articles/832.html"The Palestinians are fightingwithhuman suicide bombers, that's all theyhave. The Israelis . . . they'vegotone of the most powerful militarymachines in the world. ThePalestinianshave nothing."-- Ted Turner, Founder of CNN"I do not think thatin his heartan Israeli would deny that, if your enemyhas taken land that isrightfullyyours and occupied it, then not just yourenemy's army but his wifeand sonand daughter and servants and all who,under his protection, come tolive andmake their living on the stolen land,are aggressors. By theirpresence theyaid and abet the occupation."-- Matthew Parris, Saturday Timesof London,June 22, 2002"David Ben-Gurion never moved against the Irgun andthe SternGang untilafter the state was established and secured, which isdefinitelynot true inthe case of the Palestinian Authority. Essentially, theIsraelisare askingthe Palestinians to do something they themselves refusedto do."i-- Hussein Ibish, Communication director of theAmericanArabAnti-DiscriminationCommitteehttp://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/mufti.htmlZionist Jewish supremacists really hate this kindof article, that iswhy"Hate Crimes" exist. To protect the highestcriminals.Is thisPolitically Correct??[The very creation of Israel requiredan act of terror.In 1948, most of thenon-Jewish indigenous people wereethnically cleansedfrom the part ofPalestine which became Israel. Thisaction was carefullyplanned. Withoutit, no state with a Jewish majority andcharacter would havebeen possible.Since 1948, the "Israeli Arabs", thosePalestinians whoavoided expulsion,have suffered continuous discrimination.Indeed, many havebeen internallydisplaced, ostensibly for "securityreasons", but really toacquire theirlands for Jews.]No, the Zionofreaks wantto ban any history butwhat they write.Isn't it quite glaringly obvious that"The Holocaust"legends would fallapart without laws that make it illegal toquestionit?Isn't it glaringly obvious that 911 was the "Goy Holocaust"forAmerica,that short circuits critical thinking and creates avictimmentallity thatjustifies all sorts of crimes against "evil"?Without"TheHolocaust" and "911", the manipulators of the US and Israelwould nothavebeen able to carry out their "War on Terror" terrorismagainst theArabs.Butwith a public that thinks it is persecuted and under attack,anyatrocity isjustified.The terrorists have won. For now.