Romania vs Bizantz (decadere, coruptie, grecizare,..)
Misu Orasel
Din urmatorul text reiese:
1) Anul 212 toti oamenii liberi din imperiu devin cetateni romani,
cu alte cuvinte se pot autodenumi romani. Imperiul se cheama Romania.
2) Gloria a ceea ce astazi denumim Bizantz a durat pina la
venirea grecilor la putere. Dupa aceea apare decaderea greceasca
si ortodocsilor corupti.
3) Denumirea Imperiul Bizantin vine de la savantul francez
DuCange care a trait in secolul XVIII iar numele acesta a fost
inventat fiindca coruptia bizantina nu putea impieta numele
nobil: ROMANIA. Romania a murit cind derbedeul grec, basileul
Heracles a ajuns pe tronul imperial. Un derbedeu grec si corupt.
The people who lived in the "Byzantine Empire" never knew nor used the
word "Byzantine." They know themselves to be Romans, nothing more and
absolutely nothing less. By transferring the Imperial capital from Rome
on the Tiber to the New Rome on Bosphorus, dubbed Constantinople, the
Emperor Constantine I had transferred the actual identity of Rome to
the new location. Long before Constantine I, the idea of "Rome" had
become dissociated from the Eternal City on the Tiber. For a Roman
meant a Roman citizen, whereever he lived. Before the Imperial period,
in 89 BC, a Roman law had granted Roman citizenship to people
throughout Italy. Afterwards, citizenship became extended to an
increasing number of people in different parts of the Empire. In 212,
Emperor Caracalla declared all free persons in the Empire to be Roman
citizens, entitled to call themselves Roman, not merely subject to the
Romans. Within a few decades, people begin to refer to the entire
Empire less often [in Latin] as "Imperium Romanorum" [Domain of the
Romans] and more often as "Romania" [Romanland]
Although he wrote a long history of the Empire at Constantinople,
Montesquieu could not bring himself to refer to the Empire at
Constantinople with the noble names of "Greek" or "Roman." From the
obsolete name "Byzantium," Montesquieu used the word "Byzantine." The
word "Byzantine" denoted the Empire and connoted its supposed
characteristics: dishonesty, dissimulation and decadence. The English
scholar Edward Gibbon in his Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire
treated the Empire after the sixth century as an epic of unrelieved
degradation and corruption.
Byzantium became much more a Greek state [perhaps best seen in the
emperor Heraklios' adoption of the Greek title Basileus], all the
cities except Constantinople faded away to small fortified centers, and
the military organization of the empire came to be based on a series of
local armies. There is then a persistent ambiguity about the beginning
of Byzantine history - between the building of Constantinople by
Constantine I and the mid-7th century collapse of late antique urban
culture.
The seventh to ninth centuries are generally accounted a low point of
Byzantine history. Little literature - even saints' lives - survives,
and even less art. The period is studied above all for the history of
the struggle over icons
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> Din urmatorul text reiese:
ca misu ie pa copiute voila:
From: Bryan J. Maloney (bj...@cornell.edu)
Subject: Re: Zs on Byzantine Tunics
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
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Date: 2000/02/25
First, let us read the following:
The people who lived in the "Byzantine Empire" never knew nor used the
word "Byzantine." They know themselves to be Romans, nothing more and
absolutely nothing less. By transferring the Imperial capital from Rome
on
the Tiber to the New Rome on Bosphorus, dubbed Constantinople, the
Emperor
Constantine I had transferred the actual identity of Rome to the new
location. Long before Constantine I, the idea of "Rome" had become
dissociated from
the Eternal City on the Tiber. For a Roman meant a Roman citizen,
whereever he lived. Before the Imperial period, in 89 BC, a Roman law
had
granted
Roman citizenship to people throughout Italy. Afterwards, citizenship
became extended to an increasing number of people in different parts of
the Empire.
In 212, Emperor Caracalla declared all free persons in the Empire to be
Roman citizens, entitled to call themselves Roman, not merely subject to
the
Romans. Within a few decades, people begin to refer to the entire Empire
less often [in Latin] as "Imperium Romanorum" [Domain of the Romans] and
more often as "Romania" [Romanland]
Second, the particular mosaic featured is in Rome. I have never seen it
in any Orthodox ikonography. If you will look at the writing above the
figures, you will see that it is Latin, not Greek.
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should go to the nearest street grate and see how we are
dealing with our mental health crisis today."
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Message 2 in thread
From: Jenn Ridley (jri...@newsguy.com)
Subject: Re: Zs on Byzantine Tunics
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
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Date: 2000/02/25
"Ciarrai" <ker...@email.msn.com> wrote:
>
>"The art history students are really hitting me with some tough
>questions. Have you ever seen the "z" symbol on clothing of soldiers or
>medieval figures? I have a student trying to figure out what this
>means. If you have anything on Byzantine art you can see an example on
>a mosaic from the apse vault of San Vitale entitled "Christ Between
>Angels and Saints (Second Coming)."
>http://www.wsu.edu:8000/wciv/b/bb/bbu/bbu44.jpg
>We're having trouble because we don't know what to even call the darned
>symbol."
What to call it is fairly easy. Byzantines were Greeks, and it looks
like a zeta to me.
Why it's there, I don't know, and haven't been able to find out. It
probably has some symbolic meaning, but I'm afraid I don't know enough
about the medieval orthodox church to figure it out.
stasia
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Jenn Ridley
jenn....@gt.org
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Ce incult gagiu asta sa zica "...Byzantines were Greeks..."!!!
Comploooooooot Mishuliiiii:-))))))))) Nu-mi dau zeama de ce lumea nu te
asculta pe tine baaaa Iluminate baaaaa:-)))))
? "Max Betivul" <maxbe...@usa.com> ?????? ??? ??????
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