Imagine how field service would be .............
Sockie
drop the facade of "we just want to talk to people" and instead were
completely honest and candid about their doctrines and beliefs. A typical
conversation in the ministry might go something like this.
*knock knock*
Householder: Hello?
Witness: Hi. My name is Brother Zealous and I'm here to offer you these
magazines giving you a hope for the new world.
Householder: I have my own religion, thank you very much.
Witness: Oh ... ah-hem ... well, I'm glad to hear that.
Householder: You are?
Witness: Oh yes, you see, we talk to people of all religions.
Householder: Obviously. But aren't you here to convert me or something?
Witness: Well ... yes, that too.
Householder: I'm pretty happy with my religion, though. Why should I
convert?
Witness: Well, we have the one and only true religion. Your religion is
false.
Householder: False? But you don't even know what I believe!
Witness: Doesn't matter whatever it is, it's sure to be false. And even if
we agree on 99.9% of the Bible, you're still in grave danger.
Householder: Why am I in danger?
Witness: Well, God's going to kill you. And ... well, I can see from the
toys in your yard that you have children. Am I right?
Householder: Yes.
Witness: Well, God's going to kill them, too. And it'll be your fault.
There. You've been warned. I've just discharged my own responsibility, so
the bloodguilt is yours now. When God kills your kids, it'll be all your
fault. So you better take these magazines.
Householder: But we pray to God every night. We even pray together, as a
family! My wife and my daughter and I kneel every evening before we tuck her
in, and she folds her hands and prays for us and for her dolls and for
Rover, her puppy ...
Witness: That's cute and all, but I'm afraid it isn't enough.
Householder: So my daughter ...
Witness: Dead.
Householder: And my wife ...
Witness: Dead ...
Householder: What about Rover?
Witness: Dead. Dead dead dead dead dead. Look, are you going to take the
magazines or not?
Householder: Well, wait a minute. Before I take them, how do I know for
certain that YOU have the right religion?
Witness: I suppose that's a fair question. Well, our religion is the true
religion because the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society says that we are.
Householder: So, you're saying that you have the right religion because your
religion says you have the right religion?
Witness: Well, yeah.
Householder: That doesn't sound very convincing.
Witness: You must have misunderstood me. You see, only we have the unique
beliefs that reflect the truth about the Bible.
Householder: So, you have the true religion because of your beliefs?
Witness: You betcha.
Householder: Well, that's circular reasoning. Saying that Witnesses have the
right religion because only they have the particular beliefs that they have
is well, it's the same as saying that Witnesses have the right religion
because they're Witnesses.
Witness: Are you an apostate?
Householder: A what?
Witness: Never mind. You were starting to confuse me for a second, so I
thought you might be an evil apostate. But I understand what the problem is
now. You see, the "truth" of our religion is self-evident in our beliefs.
All you have to do is look at our beliefs and you can tell that only we are
following the Bible in the way that God wants.
Householder: Interesting. You know, I knew a Witness in high school. She
didn't celebrate anything, not even birthdays. Is that one of your beliefs?
Witness: Right. God hates birthdays.
Householder: Well, let's take that. Why don't you celebrate birthdays?
Witness: There are two birthdays recorded in the bible, and in each of them
someone gets his head chopped off. Everything in the bible is written for
our instruction, so obviously God hates birthdays.
Householder: Heads chopped off?
Witness: Yep.
Householder: My daughter's birthday was last week, and I swear to you that
absolutely no one was decapitated. In fact, in all the birthdays I've
celebrated in my life, no one even got a little bit hurt.
Witness: Still, it's a matter of principle. You don't want to be supporting
something God hates.
Householder: But didn't Job celebrate his children's "special days"? And
wasn't Job a righteous man?
Witness: Er, well ... um, you see, I guess you can't prove that the "special
days" were birthdays. I mean, maybe they were just "fun days," heh heh ...
you know, just friendly family get-togethers ...
Householder: You don't sound very convinced. But heck even if you're right,
isn't it true that God directed the magi to Bethlehem, where they gave gifts
to Jesus on the day of his birth?
Witness: Um, yes, that's true.
Householder: So there are more that two birthdays in the bible, right? It
seems to me that there are about a dozen birthdays in the bible. Heads got
cut off at only two of them. Perhaps the real lesson is that we shouldn't go
chopping each other's heads off at birthdays?
Witness: Well, perhaps, but birthdays are also pagan in origin ...
Householder: Really? I didn't know that. What's the pagan origin, anyway?
Witness: Er, well, I used to know. I have this book that explains all this
stuff ...
Householder: Wait a minute! You mean you don't even know the reason you
don't celebrate birthdays? You can't even remember the pagan origins? I'm
sorry, but that's pretty weak.
Witness: Well, that stuff doesn't really matter. Jehovah has seen fit to
direct his Faithful and Discreet Slave to give us these rules. We don't
question that.
Householder: So God himself directs your religious doctrine?
Witness: Yep! See, that's why we're the one true religion.
Householder: Right, right. But let me ask you, has your religion always had
these strict beliefs? I mean, were you always restricted from holidays and
celebrations and so forth?
Witness: Um, no. The light gets brighter and brighter as we get closer to
Armageddon, which is when God's going to kill you and your family. We keep
refining our beliefs. We're a "progressive" organization, see.
Householder: You're a progressive organization?
Witness: Oh yes. Unlike the stubborn false religions of Babylon the Great,
we're not afraid to adjust our thinking according to the times.
Householder: So, if you're progressive, I suppose your religion has
charities for orphans and widows, meetings for alcoholic members, support
groups for those with disabilities, an outreach program for troubled teens,
Witness: Hey hold on there! No, none of that.
Householder: That doesn't sound very "progressive" to me. What about those
in poverty? How does your religion take care of them?
Witness: We don't have specific arrangements for giving charity to our own
members.
Householder: What about orphans, widows, single mothers?
Witness: Well, if they're at every meeting and comment a lot at the meetings
and get well over the national average, well, then maybe we'll have a
get-together for them. You know, invite them over to study the Watchtower
with us. But, I mean, there's welfare and other social services for people
like that.
Householder: Which is funded by the government.
Witness: Er, yeah.
Householder: Which your God Jehovah is going to destroy.
Witness: Yeah, um, that's right.
Householder: Well, you must have special programs and meetings to help
troubled teens, domestic problems, alcohol abuse, that sort of thing.
Witness: No. We deny that these problems exist within the brotherhood. And
anyone who has a serious problem must not be studying the Watchtower enough
they're spiritually weak and we should avoid them.
Householder: I don't understand. How can you help people with problems if
you avoid them? This doesn't make a lot of sense.
Witness: See, that's why you need these magazines. They explain everything!
Let me show you ... look, see how there are all these scriptures in
parentheses? You can follow along, even in your own inferior translation of
the Bible.
Householder: This one paragraph lists scriptures from Ezekiel, Proverbs,
Matthew, Galatians, and Revelation.
Witness: Yes! Our religion makes the most sense if you take all the verses
out of context and paste them together. Reading the Bible this way reveals
the ultimate fulfillment of Bible prophecy that only Witnesses understand.
Householder: So the particular historical, political, and cultural context
of the scripture is irrelevant?
Witness: If you want to read the bible that way, you can it's interesting
and all but you won't understand the deeper truths. You won't be able to
prepare yourself for Armageddon, either.
Householder: So we're pretty close to Armageddon, huh?
Witness: That's right. You'd better take these magazines.
Householder: You don't happen to have any insight into how soon until the,
um, "end," do you? I mean, are we talking weeks, months, years, or what?
Witness: We don't predict anymore that would be arrogant. Acts says that no
one knows the hour or season of God's plan. So, we don't know when the end
will come.
Householder: You don't predict "anymore"?
Witness: Er ... well ... no.
Householder: So Jehovah's Witnesses have predicted the end of the world
before?
Witness: Darn it! Are you sure you're not an apostate?
Householder: I'm just curious. If I'm going to convert to your religion, I
think I should know something about its history first.
Witness: Well, we used to say that the end would come in 1914. Then we said
it would come in 1916. Then we said it would come in 1918. Then 1925 that
was a big one. Then 1941 or 1942. Then we said it would come in 1975. Then
we said it would come before the generation of 1914 passed away, with a
generation being the equivalent of no more than 80 years. But in 1995
someone looked up "generation" in a dictionary and we decided that wasn't
true. We even said, sort of by accident, that it would come before the end
of the twentieth century.
Householder: Happy new millennium.
Witness: Uh, yeah. In any event, it's coming very, very soon. Any day now.
It won't delay. Honest. We mean it.
Householder: Right. Um, look I'm not the greatest Bible scholar, but isn't
there a scripture where Jesus warned his followers to look out for false
prophets? And doesn't the Bible also warn that false prophets will, like,
die or something?
Witness: Well, the bible does say that. But it doesn't apply to us.
Householder: Why not?
Witness: Because we're not prophets.
Householder: But don't you preach the predictions of your religion, whatever
they are, as printed in the magazine you're showing me here?
Witness: That's right. But it's not a big deal. You see, sometimes, in our
enthusiasm, imperfect men among us have leaped ahead of Jehovah and made
mistakes.
Householder: But you said that God himself directs your doctrine!
Witness: That's right.
Householder: How does that make sense?
Witness: It makes sense because we have the truth!
Householder: The truth about what?
Witness: Er, well, that is ... obviously you are an apostate, and I'm hear
to reason with you, not the other way around, and, um, my car group is
waiting, and, er, well, have a nice day. I will shake the dust from my feet
as I climb into my Presiding Overseer's minivan.
Householder: Whatever.
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Free Lunch
wrote:
Very nice. Do you know who wrote it?
Sockie
Mike Painter
<snip>
>>
>> Very nice. Do you know who wrote it?
>
> No.
Might just have been transcribed.
Preventer of Work
A dropped a sentence into some search engines.
My name is Brother Zealous and I'm here to offer you these magazines
Yahoo search and got two exact hits /
Google picked up only 1.
Myway.com picked up 6, and....
One shows a date of 2001, and may be the original:
curtjester1
> Imagine how field service would be different if Jehovah's Witnesses had to
> drop the facade of "we just want to talk to people" and instead were
> completely honest and candid about their doctrines and beliefs. A typical
> conversation in the ministry might go something like this.
>
> *knock knock*
>
> Householder: Hello?
>
marvelous prophecy in Matt. 24:14. Can I read it to since I have my
Bible open?
It says, This good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the
inhabited earth and then the end will come."
What do you think of that?
HH: Hmmm. What is this kingdom that it speaks of?
Witness: Let me show you a few more scriptures. Let me drop of this
magazine that further explains it. Let me if you have the time show
you not only what the kingdom is, but what it means for our day and
your's and my future. We actually show all people on the earth all
aspects of this kingdom by offering ourselves willingly to show you by
Bible Study form...which I can demonstrate to you very easily by going
through the table of contents of this book I have.
CJ
Sockie
"curtjester1" <curtj...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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+ At which point we were taught to pull out the Watchtower AID book and from
there on the propaganda and lies start.
Sockie