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Mo

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May 8, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/8/97
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>>except for the fight in the end, and Johny Lever's antics.<<

I thought Johny Lever as the clean shaven Sardar ( in Raja Hindustani)
with a turban was brilliant. The first time he meets Amir and goes
through the cartwheels and Sikh war cries was pure genius.


TheSmurf

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May 8, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/8/97
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> I thought Johny Lever as the clean shaven Sardar ( in Raja Hindustani)
> with a turban was brilliant. The first time he meets Amir and goes
> through the cartwheels and Sikh war cries was pure genius.

Sometimes it seems that Hindi movies promote the strongest stereotyping
of any media in India. There is a tendency to portray Bengalis as
impractical intellectuals (Chotti Si baat) or Punjabis as loud or
obnoxious people (RH). Get a Tamil character in a Hindi movie, and you
have a lot of "aayeoos". Pathans will say plenty of "khoche's" and be
tough enemies and loyal friends and UP-ites will speak in everything
from Avadhi to Bhojpuri and know how to use a "lath". Which is fine
except the characters who play these roles are usually comedians. Ethnic
jokes can be funny but most times are just irritating.
Besides, in the context of RH, Aamir's friend didn't necessarily have to
be this moronic "Punjabi" guy who is totally over the top. I want to
hear from other people who found that offensive. But I guess if we get
into it, there are too many such stereotypes in most hindi movies. I
like comedy but this crap riles me.

Manz

Tablaguy

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May 8, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/8/97
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A demonstration is being organized to support the following cause. Please
voice your support for the following cause in Washington DC. (SMITHSONIAN
INSTITUTION).
**********************************************

Mahatma Gandhi liberated India's present and future, now we must liberate
her past.


Three centuries ago England planned one of the biggest robberies of all
time. It robbed a country of her entire past. Three centuries ago that
country was known as the "Golden Bird". Today that country, having lost
her wealth to England's thievery, is considered a "poor" nation.

Three centuries ago England connived its way into India under the pretext
of trading, when the truth was that it was salivating for India's immense
wealth. And sure enough, England established the British Raj and the
pillaging began. Slowly, yet steadily, the officials of the Raj began
removing unparalleled works of art, jewels of immeasurable quality and
value, ancient books and literature and sending them back home to England
as their own possessions, their very own private collections. The
Padshahnama was one such work of art. This illustrated Chronicle of the
King of the World was assembled by Emperor Shahjahan, the builder of Taj
Mahal. Beginning May thirteenth, the Sackler Gallery will be displaying
forty four paintings and two illuminations from this Chronicle. This
magnificent work of art is being loaned by Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II
from the private collection of Windsor Castle's Royal Library. The Queen
has obviously overlooked one tiny detail in this magnanimous loan--the
detail of ownership. Or, perhaps, the Queen has forgotten that this work
of art and innumerable others are India's plundered past. After all it
has been fifty years since India's freedom from England.

England has flaunted its ill-gotten wealth long enough. On this fiftieth
anniversary of India's independence, we want England to begin making
amends. We want England to make a public apology to India and as a first
step towards reparation we want the Queen to return the Padshahnama to its
rightful owner--INDIA.
**********************************************
DEMONSTRATION

May 13th, 1997, 9am-10am
May 15th, 1997, 6pm-9:30pm

Outside the Sackler Gallery, Smithsonian Castle entrance (Not Independence
Ave. entrance).


Please try to dress in Indian clothes.

Please be there. We are counting on your Support.

If you have questions, please call Meena Nayak at any time
@ 703-450-0963.

I apologize for the confusion about the time for the demonstration on the
13th. The Smithsonian Institution is very tight lipped about non public
events. As I mentioned to some of you on the phone, the 13th is the Press
previewing and the 15th is the private showing for VIPs. We are trying to
get as much support as possible for both days, but the 13th, as you can
imagine, is extremely important, because we can get media coverage and
stir public opinion. The more people we have the better our chances for
actually achieving something through these demonstration. Please, please
be there.

Please make copies of it and pass it on to as many people as you can.

Thank you for you support.
**********************************

sanji singh boparai

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May 9, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/9/97
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Is there any way we can show support if we can't be there? I am on a
college campus where we should be able to get some good support. Let me
know if you have any kind of network into which our ostensible support can
be channelled.

If you want, we can try to organize something by which next year, we
have demonstrations all throughout the US and England, at the major
universities. The Indian Student Associations here are fairly active,
and I don't think it would be a problem getting a few hundred people at
most every major university in both countries. It is indeed shocking and
base the way England flaunts it ill-gotten gains. Let me know via
personal email. I'm posting this on the ng only so other people with like
minds can see what we are planning. Again, it wouldn't be too hard to
organize major demonstrations in the most prestigous Universities in the
world.

Sanji... email address bop...@students.uiuc.edu

Pardeep

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May 9, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/9/97
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Actually Hindi movies as a rule rile me, by the first 5 minutes you know
what will happen in the last 5 minutes. More one dimensional moronic
movies could not be imagined.

Pardeep.

Mo

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May 9, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/9/97
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>.be this moronic "Punjabi" guy who is totally over the top.<<

Comedy is always 'over the top' otherwise its not funny. Nobody found
that scene offensive. Of course Sardars dont behave like that just as
Harayana Jats dont all speak mangled Hindi/Punjabi but it introduces
these people to other parts of India otherwise they wouldnt be
recognised.


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