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Jan 25, 2004, 5:04:09 PM1/25/04
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Charles Beauchamp

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"Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer" <nob...@cypherpunks.to> wrote
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Trinidad is Puerto Rican.

v/r Beau


fg

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Jan 25, 2004, 8:08:30 PM1/25/04
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He didn't ask him for his nationality...dip shit! He asked what race he
was. Trinidad is a Black man.


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torresD

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Jan 25, 2004, 9:11:48 PM1/25/04
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Yes.


torresD

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Jan 25, 2004, 9:13:02 PM1/25/04
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"Charles Beauchamp"

> Trinidad is Puerto Rican.

> v/r Beau

Felix Trinidad, is a dark skinned, pitch black Puerto Rican male.


redflag

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Jan 25, 2004, 11:42:30 PM1/25/04
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Felix Trinidad is a black Puerto Rican. Also, he can kick your silly ass.


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He's Puerto Rican who are white, whack, and black.

JavaJunkie

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Jan 26, 2004, 7:56:24 AM1/26/04
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Tito Trinidad is a Puerto Rican of African heritage. And we're very proud of
him.

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The Sanity Cruzer

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> Tito Trinidad is a Puerto Rican of African heritage. And we're very proud
of
> him.

If you put Tito in Africa, you will find that he does not look like a native
African. He is obviously of mixed heritage.


torresD

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Jan 26, 2004, 2:29:03 PM1/26/04
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Absolutely correct.
Felix, did not marry one just like himself.

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Roberto

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Jan 26, 2004, 4:10:23 PM1/26/04
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Does it maters? He is Puertorican and we are very proud
of him.

Roberto

fg

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Jan 26, 2004, 6:02:08 PM1/26/04
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Why are you so proud of him he got his ass kicked and then he went to hide
in Bayamon!

FG
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Roberto

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Jan 26, 2004, 10:25:24 PM1/26/04
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真??

Roberto


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torresD

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Jan 26, 2004, 8:56:06 PM1/26/04
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Unfortunately, it does.
Race matters a lot.
The color of your skin, hair texture, facial features,
will determine a great deal in anyone's life.


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Cheo "El Artesano"

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Jan 26, 2004, 9:41:12 PM1/26/04
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Vaya, vaya. voy a desconectar el router, por fin, y me llevo una agria
decepción.

¿Desde cuando importa el color de la piel para algo?

No es lo que los demás piensen de uno si no lo que uno piense de si mismo.

Esa actitud de aceptar el racismo por lo que no es, es algo vanal.

genéticamente, la raza superior es la negra, que en un fragmento de nuestra
humanidad, la raza negra haya sido rebajada a lo que es en la actualidad,
desde la percepción occidental, no significa que siempre haya sido así.

No, la raza no importa. Yo daría lo que no tengo por tener un poco de
color, ¿Eso me hace querer ser menos?

Que se lo digan a Alex Haley, Oprah, Othelo, Ruth la moabita, y los hombres
y mujeres negros que construyeron las pirámides.

Bueno, ahora si que no vuelvo más a postear aquí. Lo he visto todo...

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torresD

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Jan 26, 2004, 9:59:06 PM1/26/04
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Desde siempre.
Importa para todo.
No debe de ser asi, pero por desgracia si lo es.

Puede ser que tengas toda la razon, y la raza negra
sea la superior.

Pero no es la preferida.


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Charles Beauchamp

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"torresD" <torr...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Unfortunately, it does.
> Race matters a lot.
> The color of your skin, hair texture, facial features,
> will determine a great deal in anyone's life.
>


I've been Puerto Rican all my life and it hasn't gotten me a break yet.

That being said, we claim Trinidad. He's Puerto Rican dammit and that's how
it goes.

v/r Beau


torresD

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Jan 27, 2004, 2:55:50 AM1/27/04
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"Charles Beauchamp"
Felix Trinidad is a black Puerto Rican.

One reason that blacks are so over represented in our prisons,
is that because of their dark skin color, hair texture, wide nose,
jutted out jaws, huge lips, they are instantly rejected.
Most employers buckle under pressure from the Federal
government and meet "black" quotas.
Even in the state they have to fight for jobs,
sue to get hired.
Standing on the street trying to hail a cab if
you're black can be a trying experience.
Puerto Ricans have been rejected as well,
but black Puerto Ricans in the mainland have
a much harder time of it.
It makes life a lot easier if you are a white Puerto Rican,
with white features, blue or green eyes, you fit in a lot better.
Other minorities, such as Chinese, Asians in general,
are much better accepted than blacks.
Puerto Ricans that adopt black mannerism,
speech patterns, dress style, etc., are not doing
themselves a favor.

>


torresD

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Jan 27, 2004, 3:09:57 AM1/27/04
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Blacks, and by blacks I'm talking about African Americans
were very hard on Puerto Ricans growing up in "their"
neighborhoods.
Our parents brought us to school and picked us up,
and African Americans felt that wa something to ridicule.
At one point, a separate classroom had to be made for
Puerto Rican kids to protect them from being assaulted
by the African Americans.
I'm talking about NYC public schools, in the 1960's.
They tried to assault us in the bathrooms,
hallways.
They hated us because we were white or olive skinned
and spoke Spanish, dressed differently and our parents
were a strong presence in our lives, theirs were not.

I remember my grandmother being treated like dirt
by African Americans because she could not speak
English and was using, me a child, as her translator.

In the projects, the African Americans, made the newly
arrived Puerto Ricans their target for their special brand
of vicious hatred.

I saw my friend, Irma Otero, being dragged through
broken glass, by a group of African Americans,
because she wore her light brown hair long,
wore dresses typical of girls newly arrived from
Puerto Rico and could barely speak English.

Her parents, Pablo and Irma Otero sent her back
to PR to live with her grandparents.

I don't have any good memories of African Americans,
when I was growing up, maybe you do.

African Americans can be just as racist, just as vicious,
just as bigoted as anyone else.
They just don't have the broad power that white Americans
have enjoyed.


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Diplo

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Jan 27, 2004, 7:47:59 AM1/27/04
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Doris, what do you know about the '50s, when Puerto Ricans ruled NYC? Do
you know what the largest trial was in the history of the City? The most
number of defendants in one trial? Let me know what you know or learn about
those '50s.


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torresD

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Jan 27, 2004, 3:09:26 PM1/27/04
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Diplo, Puerto Ricans never ruled NYC.
I don't know if you're talking about the trial,
involving a Puerto Rican Male, killing Irish guys
in Hell's Kitchen?

I was a child living in my parents, grandparents household.
They sheltered us, protected us and did not allow us
to watch television, read comic books, listen to radio.
My parents were Christians, Evangelist and they did not believe
in those things.
I am an atheist and raised my children likewise.
The Puerto Ricans in NYC, were newly arrived in the 1950's.
My family came to NYC in the 1930's.

So by the time, the bulk of the Puerto Ricans had arrived,
my mother had graduated from High School in NYC and
could speak, read and write English and Spanish fluently.
However, the Puerto Ricans had a hard time of it.
They worked in factories, where the Jewish bosses did not
allow them to speak Spanish, this despite the fact that
Spanish was the only language they knew.
I remember my aunts working in factories, as sewing machine
operators. They heated their food on the radiators
They brought in their food of rice, beans and meat,
in a contraption that had a series of 3 tin pans, hooked together.
They all did that.
It was a curious thing, that in those factories, I never saw
black females, Puerto Rican females, not males dominated
those sewing machine jobs.
In order to survive, some Puerto Ricans formed
Pentecostal Church Groups.
Our church, El Salvador, had Puerto Ricans from all over
the island, two Cuban families, no Dominicans.
Their entire life was geared around that church.
For example, on Sundays, they spent the entire day there.
Sunday Service, followed by a big lunch, rice, beans, meat,
they didn't believe in salads, exept for avocado.

Our parents allowed us to associate only with the kids that
belonged to that particular religion and no one else.
It probably was a good thing, because we didn't get involved
in the gang violence, drugs or petty theft.
A lot of young people died in those neighborhoods.


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Diplo

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I mean the trial of a bunch of Puerto Rican gang members that were going to
rumble with another gang at a park. Zip guns, knives, switch-blades, chains
and shortened crowbars were the weapons of choice. The other gang didn't
show up. It all happened in the mid-fifties during the time of the Umbrella
Man, Egyptian Kings, Dragons, etc. It's all in an 1950's issue of "Life"
magazine where it was described as the largest trial ever held in the
history of NYC.

Your family had it tough and seems to have survived those hard times. Good
for them! If your family found refuge amongst its friends and within a
religious environment, why are you an atheist? One would believe that you
would be grateful for the kind of companionship and would have continued
with religion as the center of your universe. Oh well, different strokes
for different folks.

You wrote "Evangelist" did you translate that from Spanish, "Evangelicos"?
My mother is Evangelica.


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torresD

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Jan 27, 2004, 11:03:18 PM1/27/04
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Never heard of the incident.

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> I mean the trial of a bunch of Puerto Rican gang members that were going
to
> rumble with another gang at a park. Zip guns, knives, switch-blades,
chains
> and shortened crowbars were the weapons of choice. The other gang didn't
> show up. It all happened in the mid-fifties during the time of the
Umbrella
> Man, Egyptian Kings, Dragons, etc. It's all in an 1950's issue of
"Life"
> magazine where it was described as the largest trial ever held in the
> history of NYC.
>
> Your family had it tough and seems to have survived those hard times.
Good
> for them! If your family found refuge amongst its friends and within a
> religious environment, why are you an atheist?

I do not believe in the Invisible Man in the Sky,
nor that Virgins conceived, without sperm.
Nor that individuals that are nailed to a cross,
are still alive today.
Nor that anyone sits on a throne anywhere in heaven,
and his son by his right side.
I think the bible was written by human beings, Jewish Scribes,
and as human beings they are fallible.

One would believe that you
> would be grateful for the kind of companionship and would have continued
> with religion as the center of your universe. Oh well, different strokes
> for different folks.
>
> You wrote "Evangelist" did you translate that from Spanish,
"Evangelicos"?
> My mother is Evangelica.

The religious sect that my parents belonged to
is called Evangelicos in Spanish.

Doggyboy

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Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer <nob...@cypherpunks.to> wrote in message news:<6e40d4ff76d81da8...@cypherpunks.to>...
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IN PR or in the rest of the much of the world, one is defined by where
comes from, not by race. The US is the most race obsessed ADHD
country. Once the race issue comes up they myriad of characteristics
or personality traits unrelated to race that define people goes out of
the window.

About Tito, he is Hispanic period. He is a mix of native indian,
Spanish and African.

fg

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Jan 28, 2004, 5:11:52 PM1/28/04
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What is so diffcult? The original poster inquired about his race.......!
Not his nationality, not what language he speaks, not what food he eats, not
what country he lives in. It is a question of anthropology.

"Race is a taxonomic principle of grouping living things based on common
heredity and physical attributes.

Racial Classifications as per 2000 US Census
(keep in mind there is no such thing as racial purtiy in the world today).

Asian
American Indian
Black
White
Native Hawaiian or Pacific Islander

Ask yourselves again what race is Felix Trinidad:

FG
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Actually, it is a matter of Anthropography. Anthropologically-wise,
Races are irrelevant.

: )

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Diplo

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I will provide you more information later.


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PHILLYSTRES

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Torres, you are a sad person!!! I'm glad I'm Not Puerto
Rican (many of whom live in places so dungy blacks
won't live there) then again I'm glad I'm not Black either!

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You are a chink!

: )

PHILLYSTRES wrote:

> Torres, you are a sad person!!! I'm glad I'm Not Puerto
> Rican (many of whom live in places so dungy blacks
> won't live there) then again I'm glad I'm not Black either!

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