Like you, I have at least over a dozen of holes in my skull. The largest one and the only non-symetrical is foramen magnum (macro hole). It measures about 2.5 cm in diameter. All other foramina are symmetrical and much smaller (mini holes) and each of them can be detected either by MRI or CAT scanners.
While you and me (while holocaustian) for decades were convinced about existance of Macro holes (60 by 60 cm) for inserting Cyclone B in Birkenau main gas chambers, Prof Van Pelt in London switched to MINI Cyclone holes (7 by 10 cm) in his 2,000 page report and while on withess stand in London. Eventually he told the court and the world and David Irving (pro se) that even mini holes of the holocaust can not be identified because they were plastered with cement by the Nazis.
I think that because this occlusion you and Van Pelt got their holocaustomania pent up and can not normally reason.
I suggest to you and Van Pelt to go to Birkenau and check for these MINI holes. New cement patches can be easily found even in old structures. One can not re-create "jastrycz" in Polish cement finish which Polish emploees of the once Polish firm Huta in Katowice carefuly laid on this reinforced concrete roof.
But wait until spring hunt for these elusive MINI holes.
Polina
Alexander Sharon wrote:
Polin, Can you disclose please, how many holes in the head have you?
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Alexander Sharonpolin <poli...@catskill.net> wrote in message news:3898BD02...@catskill.net...I think it is silly to start building a museum centered on the WW Holocaust at the time when in Royal High Court of London, last Friday, has been established that there were holes to through in Cyclon B into gas chambers at Birkenau thus that no Jews were gassed there.Suggest you read Daily Telegraph from that date available on David Irving's page.
It was by, by to human-fat-soap, then human-skin lamp shades and now is by by to homicidal gas chambers.
{Polina
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Dowodca oddzialu byl kpt. "Plug" (Adam Borys), zrzutek z Anglii. Celem oddzialu
byla jak najszybsza reakcja na akcje niemieckiego terroru - przez usuwanie
glownych i odpowiedzialnych funkcjonariuszy gestapo. Byla to manifestacja sily.
Zarowno spoleczenstwo polskie, jak i wladze niemieckie mialy miec te swiadomosc,
ze nie ma takiej osoby i takiego miejsca na ziemi polskiej, gdzie by nie dotarla
armia podziemna.
/.../
"Parasol" mial trzy plutony bojowe, po trzy druzyny. Dowodzilem drugim plutonem.
Stopnie wojskowe niewiele znaczyly, glownie funkcja i doswiadczenie bojowe w
podziemiu. (jako podchorazy mialem pod soba pieciu oficerow przedwojennych).
Sklad spoleczny oddzialu byl roznorodny. Przewazala przedwojenna klasa
inteligencka i zawodowa. Mielismy kilku Zydow i co najmniej jednego arystokrate.
Jednym z najwybitniejszych zolnierzy byl kelner. Troje Zydow z “Parasola”
zginelo na Slonecznej.
/.../
W tym czasie "Zoska" ze stratami, zdobyla ruiny Getta wraz z "Gesiowka" - grupa
barakow, w ktorych Niemcy wiezili kilkuset Zydow glownie z poludniowej Europy.
Byli to ludzie inteligentni, w wiekszosci wladali kilkoma jezykami, rzadziej
polskim. Zostali przylaczeni do oddzialow "Radoslawa," do uslug pomocniczych.
Wszyscy chcieli sie bic i po czasowym oporze przyjelismy kilku z nich jako
zolnierzy. Mialem ich kilku w oddziale. "Pawel" - wegierski Zyd, byl naszym
najlepszym piacista (zginal rozstrzelany przez Niemcow na Czerniakowie).
"Bystry" (Henryk Poznanski) - polski Zyd, ktory przezyl w kanalach ponad rok od
czasu likwidacji getta, byl wspanialym przewodnikiem po kanalach. Byl
kilkakrotnie lacznikiem kanalami miedzy Starowka a Srodmiesciem. W nocy 25
sierpnia przeprowadzil KG AK ze Starego Miasta do Srodmiescia. Na Czerniakowie
byl znowu przewodnikiem kanalowym, podczas ostrzalu w ruinach lezal na jakims
lozku nieporuszony i palil papierosy. Zginal pod koniec Czerniakowa, wychodzac z
wlazu.
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Ciekawe ze profesjonalni patrioci z s.c.p. nigdy jakos o tych ludziach nie
wspominaja. "Nasza Polska" i Leszek Zebrowski tez nie. Wspomnial natomiast
swoich bylych podwladnych i konspiracyjnych kolegow-Zydow Jerzy Zapadko-Mirski,
byly zolnierz batalionu "Parasol".
A w swietle tego - nawet posting "Cecyliana" przestaje wlasciwie zloscic. A
niech sobie ujada na zdrowie...
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polin <poli...@catskill.net> wrote in message news:3899783C...@catskill.net...Dear Mr. Sharon,
ooo
Alexander Sharon wrote:
You better get you fact straight. Huta Katowice did not exist till 1970ies during the Gierek rule.Do be a history revisionists one shall posses an adequate knowledge of the historical facts. You just don't have this ability since you are making them up.
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Alexander Sharon
polin <poli...@catskill.net> wrote in message news:3899783C...@catskill.net...Dear Mr. Sharon,
You responded with the weakest argument possible.
I did not wrote Huta Katowice but a brick laying and contracting firm named "Huta" from Katowice. You are welcome to look at the contracts and billings and correspondence of this firm with the SS administration in Auschwitz in J.C. Pressac's monumental opus before you post your replies.
In Pressac you can also see the photo of Polish bricklayers errecting the crematory chimney in Birkenau.
But the above are minor matters. You failed to respond and explain why
1) for 55 years we heard from surivivors frequently about the gassing shower stalls and infrequently from scholars about the MACRO Cyclone B inlets. Now we are told, by them "I am sorry Madams and Sirs these were not Macro but MINI holes and now are no longer visible.
Really?!
Polina
PS Perhaps there were never visible because they were never there and there was no gassings at Krema II in Birkenau.
Alexander Sharon wrote:
You better get you fact straight. Huta Katowice did not exist till 1970ies during the Gierek rule.Do be a history revisionists one shall posses an adequate knowledge of the historical facts. You just don't have this ability since you are making them up.
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Alexander Sharonpolin <poli...@catskill.net> wrote in message news:3899783C...@catskill.net...Dear Mr. Sharon,
As I am getting older and older, my memory fails me ... occasionally.
Thus, I thought that my opponents were right that I mistakenly wrote about Huta Katowice (Huta = steel mill in Polish, Huta Katowice was estabilshed in 1970s) instead about Huta firm existing before and during WW II in Katowice.
Consequently during my late lunch brake I took 5 minutes to see what I wrote and I cite that below:
"One can not re-create "jastrycz" in Polish cement finish which Polish
emploees of the once Polish firm
Huta in Katowice carefuly laid on this reinforced concrete roof. "
And my Holocaustian oponent, like in a typical ink blot test seized on minutia and improperly. Bad and anxious people see in ink blot a devil instead of ink blot. Mr. Sharon sees Holocaust even in a poured concrete roof where there are no holes. Alike, he have confabulated about me writting about Huta Katowice.
Another example of confabulating Holocaustian is Daniel Karen.
For examples he sees that Diesel exhaust at full power with restricted air intake emits 6% of CO but fails to note that such engine will self-destruct in a few dozens of minutes due to carbon deposits on its rings and cylinders.
Karen sees that at full power Diesel emits 3.4% of oxygen but fails to note that at medium or slight or no load it produces 17% of oxygen.
During daytime gassing operations at the tiny Treblinka camp there was no need for electricity. The powerrfull T-34 soviet tank 500 HP engine had to run almost at idle.
More importantly, Magistrate Zdzislaw Lukaszkiewicz a Jew from Siedlce failed to develop sufficient archeological evidence for Nurember Trials and his report has be suppressed in the archives of GKBZH in WArsaw.
It was a thorough examination in November 1945. Report was issued on Januray 3, 1946. In Trablinka's lazarette area instead of about 100,000 led slugs the Magistrates commission found pfennigs and two pennies (total of 92 coins) but no trace of skeletons of ashes or traces of concrete gas chambers, not even one shard of the red tile floor of the gas chambers, set in concrete to camouflage the Jewesses menstural blood.
Air photos show that the mass grave at T II was 10% smaller than in Katyn
Polina
Alexander Sharon wrote:
You better get you fact straight. Huta Katowice did not exist till 1970ies during the Gierek rule.Do be a history revisionists one shall posses an adequate knowledge of the historical facts. You just don't have this ability since you are making them up.
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Alexander Sharonpolin <poli...@catskill.net> wrote in message news:3899783C...@catskill.net...Dear Mr. Sharon,
polin <poli...@catskill.net> babbled:
# Karen sees that at full power Diesel emits 3.4% of
# oxygen but fails to note that at medium or slight or
# no load it produces 17% of oxygen.
Only at no load, but never mind.
# During daytime gassing operations at the tiny Treblinka
# camp there was no need for electricity. The powerrfull
# T-34 soviet tank 500 HP engine had to run almost at idle.
Sigh. You revisionazis are a really hopeless case.
Supposing they *had* to run the engine under load, why
wouldn't they simply hook it up to the generator, and
activate the floodlights - even during the day? If that
would give them the results they wanted to achieve in the
gas chambers, why would they care if the lights worked
during the day for half-an-hour or so?
-Danny Keren.
umiejetnosc plywania w brudnej wodzie jest wylaczna cecha zydostwa, dlaczego
tez zarzucac im, ta jednonarodowa dyscypline
..a co to ma wspolnego durniu, z faktami podanymi przez Cecyliana
I think Daniel Keren is Holocaust revisionist! He does not believes in
acuity of survivors!!
None of them ever claimed that efficient Nazis gassed people in
floodlights at Treblinka. Instead Vasili Grossman the first
judeo-bolshevik correspondent to reach that camp and the first to write
a book about it entitled Treblinskyj Yad (The Hell (or the Poison) of
Treblinka, stated that carbon monoxide was piped from 5km distant
Treblinka RR station and when is short supply, Nazis gassed people in
vaccum chambers.
Somehow this soviet writer, a chemist by education did not implicate the
T-34 engine in the industrial murder of his co-religionists.
Mr. Keren, like prof Van Pelt with his Mini Holes of the Holocaust, you
are also a quick inventror. Perhaps you can enlighten the readers of
the alt rev and soc cult jewish and soc cult polish about these vagaries
of this LARGEST Nazi camp, acc to Jerusalem prosecutors 890,000 Jews
died there after a few hours.
Sincerely yours,
Polina Borowsa
.........
> Ciekawe ze profesjonalni patrioci z s.c.p. nigdy jakos o tych ludziach nie
> wspominaja. "Nasza Polska" i Leszek Zebrowski tez nie. Wspomnial natomiast
> swoich bylych podwladnych i konspiracyjnych kolegow-Zydow Jerzy
Zapadko-Mirski,
> byly zolnierz batalionu "Parasol".
>
> A w swietle tego - nawet posting "Cecyliana" przestaje wlasciwie zloscic.
A
> niech sobie ujada na zdrowie...
>
> +++
A moze ty zlobie, w odroznieniu od ciebie, dla innych zolnierz to zolnierz,
a polegly to polegly?
Tylko ty bucu zagladasz wszystkim w ten legendarny rozporek.
Rasistowskie scierwo!
Wojciech K.
Cecylian
PS. Swoja droga - jestem ciekawy oceny filmu "Kanal" dokonanej - gdyby
przezyl powstanie - przez "Bystrego"...
PS. A wiec nie rozstrzelano Zydow z gesiowki, tylko przylaczona do formacji
liniowych i pomocniczych. Czy dano Zydom z gesiowki bron do reki?
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<lev...@usa.net> wrote in message news:87bvpj$16...@edrn.newsguy.com...
Why am I not surprised? Suspicions confirmed.
Steve
(remainder of polinemia snipped to prevent nausea)
whatever <what...@here.com> wrote in message news:389A0653...@here.com...
But what does Huta Katowice, which is a huge steel mill near Katowice, have to do with cement in Oswiecim/Auschwitz?
ooo
Alexander Sharon wrote:
You better get you fact straight. Huta Katowice did not exist till 1970ies during the Gierek rule.Do be a history revisionists one shall posses an adequate knowledge of the historical facts. You just don't have this ability since you are making them up.
-
Alexander Sharon
polin <poli...@catskill.net> wrote in message news:3899783C...@catskill.net...Dear Mr. Sharon,
Na pytanie "Cecyliana" odpowiedz mozna znalezc w pamietnikach "Ognia",
kreowanego obecnie na bohatera narodowego. Z pamietnikow tych kazdy moze latwo
wysnuc wnioski co do motywow ktore spowodowwaly iz miazdzaca wiekszosc tych
polskich Zydow ktorzy przezyli okupacje wyniosla sie czym predzej na szczera
pustynie, prosto pod arabskie kule - aby tylko jak najdalej.
Cytuje zatem z pamietnika:
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"20 sierpnia, 1945 - Zyd na czubie polany Waksmundzkiej.
28 sierpnia, 1945 - wykonano egzekucje na czterech Zydach w Maniowcach. 19
lutego, 1946 - Gasgarin Dawid - wojt gminy zydowskiej. Nowy Targ. Egzekucja.
(Chodzilo o Dawida Grasgarina?, dorozkaza z Nowego Targu, przewodniczacego Gminy
Zydowskiej).
3 maja, 1946 - Witaj majowa jutrzenko! W nocy samochod z Zydami. 12. Mieli byc
przeprowadzeni przez granice. 50.000 zl.Przed Kroscienkiem do rowow. Salci
krzyczy: Panie Ogien taka nieladna demokracje pan robi? Ucieto jezyk".
____________________________________________________________
Powtorzmy:
__________________________________________________________________________
Salci krzyczy: Panie Ogien taka nieladna demokracje pan robi? Ucieto jezyk".
__________________________________________________________________________
Imponuje m in rycerski stosunek wobec kobiet.
O innych smialych bojowych dzialaniach pominietych w pamietniku takze nalezy
wspomniec:
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28 lutego, 1946 r. zostal w Zakopanem zamordowany przez bande "Ognia" (tym sie
specjalnie szczycila) Jozef Oppenheim, narciarz, taternik. Kierownik Gorskiego
Pogotowia Ratunkowego w latach 1914-1939.
30 kwietnia, 1946 r. zostala przez "Ognia" zamordowana Beila Gold, opiekunka i
wychowawczyni dzieci przebywajacych w sanatorium w Rabce.
/.../
Przypomniec nareszcie trzeba, ze "Ogien" ma na swoim sumieniu morderstwa
dokonanych na dzieciach. Razem z Bala Gold, wychowawczynia z sanatorium w Rabce
zostaly zamordowane znajdujace sie pod jej opieka dzieci: Salomon Domberg, Fajga
Domberg, Blina Kreba, Beniamin Rose, Truba Salzberg i Fajga Szwarcsztarf. Wraz z
malzonkami Wygoda zostalo przez "Ognia" zamordowane ich dziecko...
___________________________________________________________________________
Tyle w ramach odpowiedzi na pytanie "Cecyliana".
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1. "Ogien" na Podhalu i nie tylko wybil wszystkich ocalalych Zydow?
2. Morderstwami na Zydach zajmowalo sie cale zbrojne antykomunistyczne
podziemie?
C.
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<lev...@usa.net> wrote in message news:87eej3$q...@edrn.newsguy.com...
ooo
Alexander Sharon wrote:
How the hell I should know? In my time near Katowice was only Huta Baildon.Talk to polina, she might make up away even names of the Polish bricklayers. Auschwitz/Birkenau auxilliary labour camps were spread like a spider web around southern Poland. Largest stellmills that had main camp's branches were Huta (and mine) Bobrek near Bytom (Beuthen), Huta Hindenburg (Zabrze), Koenigschutte (Chorzow), and nearby steell mills in Zaglebie (Dabrowskie).
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Alexander Sharonwhatever <what...@here.com> wrote in message news:389A0653...@here.com...But what does Huta Katowice, which is a huge steel mill near Katowice, have to do with cement in Oswiecim/Auschwitz?ooo
Alexander Sharon wrote:
You better get you fact straight. Huta Katowice did not exist till 1970ies during the Gierek rule.Do be a history revisionists one shall posses an adequate knowledge of the historical facts. You just don't have this ability since you are making them up.
-
Alexander Sharon
polin <poli...@catskill.net> wrote in message news:3899783C...@catskill.net...Dear Mr. Sharon,
Zaraz, zaraz. Mozna o zrodlo najpierw poprosic? Tytul, autora, wydawce, numer
ISBN (jesli pozycja w miare nowa), strone? Moze to byc wiarygodne (chociaz nie
musi), ale poprosze odnosnik.
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CD
<lev...@usa.net> wrote in message news:87euet$1n...@edrn.newsguy.com...
>Dlaczego wiec ci uczciwi i patriotyczni dla sprawy polskiej Zydzi - co
>ocaleli z wojny - nie wyplyneli po wojnie i nie zajeli wysokich stanowisk w
>odbudowanym panstwie? Czyzby polska prawica poslugujac sie glupota UB
>wymordowala ocalalych? Czy to dlatego dzisiaj nie ma ich (czy ich nie ma?)
>wsrod inicjatorow polskiego muzeum holokaustu?
>
>Cecylian
"Plug" (Adam Borys, urodzony w r 1909, syn Walentego i Heleny z
domu Batz), w roku 1980, kiedy oddawano do druku wydana w roku
1981 roku ksiazke Piotra Stachiewicza "Parasol" - byl : doc.dr hab.,
inzynierem chemikiem, kierownikiem zakladu naukowego. Robil wiec
raczej kariere po linii zawodowej. Wzmianki o pochodzeniu zydowskim
w skorowidzu nie ma (nie kwestionuje jednak, moze byc w tekscie,
ktory czytalem dosc dawno).
"Pawel" (nazwisko i dane o rodzicach nie znane) jest opisywany tamze
jako "Wegier pochodzenia zydowskiego, uwolniony z obozu przy ulicy
Gesiej, ktory dolaczyl do powstancow 10.VIII.1944 i zginal na Czerniakowie
22.IX.1944".
Wyglada mi na to ze autor nie probowal stosowac filtrow rasowych
w swoich ocenach tamtych dni. Skoro taki pomysl pojawia sie teraz
- to moze warto pokusic sie o pelne dane statystyczne. Dodam
iz "Biblioteka Kultury" rowniez drukowala obszerne pamietniki lekarza
Zyda wykazujacego sie znakomita organizacja podleglych mu sluzb
medycznych, zawierajace wiele faktow o powstaniu.
Mam jeszcze wolne miejsce na polce obok tomu "Parasol" i chetnie
postawilbym tam podobne, rownie szczegolowe dziela o podobnej
tematyce. Chyba sie na tej polce nie pogryza :).
Miroslaw
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Miroslaw Krupinski
http://worf.albanyis.com.au/~matuzal/Pegaz.htm
http://worf.albanyis.com.au/~matuzal/index.htm