Israel & Aid - Ralph Nader
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Israel & Aid
By Ralph Nader
March 23, 2010 "Information Clearing House" --
On July 10, 1996, at a Joint Session of the United States Congress,
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu received a standing
ovation for these words:
"With America's help, Israel has grown to be a powerful, modern state. .
But I believe there can be no greater tribute to America's long-standing
economic aid to Israel than for us to be able to say:
we are going to achieve economic independence.
We are going to do it.
In the next four years,
we will begin the long-term process of gradually
reducing the level of your generous economic
assistance to Israel."
Since 1996, the American taxpayers are still sending Israel $3 billion
a year and providing assorted loan guarantees, waivers, rich technology
transfers and other indirect assistance.
Before George W. Bush left office a memorandum of understanding
between the U.S. and Israel stipulated an assistance package of $30
billion over the next ten years to be transferred in a lump sum at the
beginning of every fiscal year. Israel's wars and colonies still receive
U.S. taxpayer monies.
What happened to Mr. Netanyahu's solemn pledge to the Congress?
The short answer is that Congress never called in the pledge.
In the intervening years,
Israel has become an economic, technological and military juggernaut.
Its GDP is larger than Egypt's even though Israel's
population is less than one tenth that of the Arab
world's most populous nation.
The second largest number of listings on America's NASDAQ
Exchange after U.S. companies are from Israel, exceeding listings of Japan,
Korea,
China and India combined.
Its venture capital investments exceed those
in the U.S., Europe and China on a per capita basis.
Israel is arguably the fifth most powerful military force in the world,
and Israel's claims on the U.S.'s latest weapon systems and
research/development breakthroughs are unsurpassed.
This combination has helped to make Israel a major arms exporter.
The Israeli "economic miracle" and technological innovations
have spawned articles and a best-selling book in recent months.
The country's average GDP growth rate has exceeded the
average rate of most western countries over the past five years.
Israel provides universal health insurance,
unlike the situation in the U.S.,
which raises the question of who
should be aiding whom?
Keep in mind,
the U.S. economy is mired in a recession,
with large rates of growing poverty,
unemployment, consumer debt and state
and federal deficits.
In some states, public schools are shutting,
public health services are being slashed,
and universities are increasing tuition while
also cutting programs.
Even state government buildings are being sold off.
Under U.S. law, military sales to Israel
cannot be used for offensive purposes,
only for "legitimate self-defense."
Nonetheless, there have been numerous violations of the
Arms Export Control Act by Israel. Even the indifferent State
Department has found, from time to time,
that munitions such as cluster bombs were "likely violations."
Violations would lead to a cut-off in aid but with
the completely pro-Israel climate in Washington,
the White House has never allowed such findings
to be definitive.
The same indifference applies to violations of the
U.S. Foreign Assistance Act that prohibits aid to
countries engaging in consistent international
human rights violations.
These include the occupation, colonization,
blockades and military assaults on civilians
in the Palestinian West Bank and Gaza,
regularly documented by the highly
regarded Israeli human rights group
B'Tselem as well as by Amnesty
International and Human Rights Watch.
This week,
Prime Minister Netanyahu visits President Barack Obama
after the recent Israeli announcement of 1,600 new housing
units in East Jerusalem made while Vice President Joe Biden
was visiting that country.
The affront infuriated New York Times columnist, Tom Friedman,
who wrote that Mr. Biden should have packed his bags and flown
away leaving behind a scribbled note saying
"You think you can embarrass your only true ally in the world,
to satisfy some domestic political need, with no consequences?
You have lost total contact with reality."
Friedman,
a former Times Middle East correspondent,
concluded his rebuke by writing:
"Palestinian leaders Mahmoud Abbas and Salam Fayyad are as
genuine and serious about working toward a solution as any
Israel can hope to find."
But until a few days ago,
the U.S. government had no levers over the Israeli government.
Cutting off aid isn't even whispered in the halls of Congress.
Raising the issue would further galvanize Israel's allies, including AIPAC.
The only lever left for the U.S. suddenly erupted into the public media a
few days ago.
General David Petraeus told the Senate that resolving the
Israeli-Palestinian conflict has foreign policy and national
security ramifications for the United States.
He said that
"The conflict foments anti-American sentiment,
due to a perception of U.S. favoritism for Israel.
Arab anger over the Palestinian question limits the
strength and depth of U.S. partnerships with
governments and peoples in the Area of Responsibility.
Meanwhile,
Al-Qaeda and other military groups
exploit that anger to mobilize support."
A few days earlier, Vice President Joe Biden told
Prime Minister Netanyahu in Israel that
"what you're doing here undermines the security
of our troops who are fighting in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan."
What Obama's people are publically starting to say is
that regional peace is about U.S. vital interests in that
large part of the Middle East and, ultimately, the safety
of American soldiers and personnel.
As one retired diplomat commented "This could be a game-changer."
coaste...@yahoo.com
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Uri Avnery's Column
The Doomsday Weapon
20/03/10
IT IS already a commonplace to say that people who don’t learn from
history are condemned to repeat their mistakes.
Some 1942 years ago, the Jews in the province called Palaestina
launched a revolt against the Roman Empire. In retrospect, this looks
like an act of madness. Palestine was a small and insignificant part
of the world-wide empire which had just won a crushing victory against
the rival power – the Parthian Empire (Persia) – and put down a major
rebellion in Britain. What chances could the Jewish revolt have?
God knows what was going on in the mind of the “Zealots”. They
eliminated the moderate leaders, who warned against provoking the
empire, and gained sway over the Jewish population of the country.
They relied on God. Perhaps they also relied on the Jews in Rome and
believed that their influence over the Senate would restrain the
Emperor, Nero. Perhaps they had heard that Nero was weak and about to
fall.
We know how it ended: after three years, the rebels were crushed,
Jerusalem fell and the temple was burned down. The last of the Zealots
committed suicide in Masada.
The Zionists did indeed try to learn from history. They acted in a
rational way, did not provoke the great powers, endeavored in every
situation to attain what was possible. They accepted compromises, and
every compromise served them as a basis for the next surge forward.
They cleverly utilized the radical stance of their adversaries and
gained the sympathy of the whole world.
But since the beginning of the occupation, their mind has become
clouded. The cult of Masada has become dominant. Divine promises once
again start to play a role in public discourse. Large parts of the
public are following the new zealots.
The next phase is also repeating itself: the leaders of Israel are
starting a rebellion against the new Rome.
WHAT BEGAN as an insult to the Vice President of the United States is
developing into something far bigger. The mouse has given birth to an
elephant.
Lately, the ultra-right government in Jerusalem has started to treat
President Barack Obama with thinly veiled contempt. The fears that
arose in Jerusalem at the beginning of his term have dissipated. Obama
looks to them like a paper black panther. He gave up his demand for a
real settlement freeze. Every time he was spat on, he remarked that it
was raining.
Yet now, ostensibly quite suddenly, the measure is full. Obama, his
Vice President and his senior assistants condemn the Netanyahu
government with growing severity. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton
has submitted an ultimatum: Netanyahu must stop all settlement
activity, East Jerusalem included; he must agree to negotiate about
all core problems of the conflict, including East Jerusalem, and more.
The surprise was complete. Obama, it seems, has crossed the Rubicon,
much as the Egyptian army had crossed the Suez Canal in 1973.
Netanyahu gave the order to mobilize all the reserves in America and
to move forward all the diplomatic tanks. All Jewish organizations in
the US were commanded to join the campaign. AIPAC blew the shofar and
ordered its soldiers, the Senators and Congressmen, to storm the White
House.
It seems that the decisive battle has been joined. The Israeli leaders
were certain that Obama would be defeated.
And then an unusual noise was heard: the sound of the doomsday weapon.
THE MAN who decided to activate it was a foe of a new kind.
David Petraeus is the most popular officer of the United States army.
The four-star general, son of a Dutch sea captain who went to America
when his country was overrun by the Nazis, stood out from early
childhood. In West Point he was a “distinguished cadet”, in Army
Command and General Staff College he was No. 1. As a combat commander,
he reaped plaudits. He wrote his doctoral thesis (on the lessons of
Vietnam) at Princeton and served as an assistant professor for
international relations in the US Military Academy.
He made his mark in Iraq, when he commanded the forces in Mosul, the
most problematical city in the country. He concluded that in order to
vanquish the enemies of the US he must win over the hearts of the
civilian population, acquire local allies and spend more money than
ammunition. The locals called him King David. His success was
considered so outstanding that his methods were adopted as the
official doctrine of the American army.
His star rose rapidly. He was appointed commander of the coalition
forces in Iraq and soon became the chief of the Central Command of the
US army, which covers the whole Middle East , except Israel and
Palestine (which “belong” to the American command in Europe).
When such a person raises his voice, the American people listen. As a
respected military thinker, he has no rivals.
THIS WEEK, Petraeus conveyed an unequivocal message: after reviewing
the problems in his AOR (Area Of Responsibility) – which includes,
among others, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran, Iraq and Yemen – he turned
to what he called the “root causes of instability” in the region. The
list was topped by the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
In his report to the Armed Services Committee he stated: “The enduring
hostilities between Israel and some of its neighbors present distinct
challenges to our ability to advance our interests in the AOR…The
conflict foments anti-American sentiment, due to a perception of U.S.
favoritism for Israel. Arab anger over the Palestinian question limits
the strength and depth of U.S. partnerships with governments and
peoples in the AOR and weakens the legitimacy of moderate regimes in
the Arab world. Meanwhile, al-Qaeda and other militant groups exploit
that anger to mobilize support. The conflict also gives Iran influence
in the Arab world through its clients, Lebanese Hizballah and Hamas.”
Not content with that, Petraeus sent his officers to present his
conclusions to the Joint Chiefs of Staff,
In other words: Israeli-Palestinian peace is not a private matter
between the two parties, but a supreme national interest of the USA.
That means that the US must give up its one-sided support for the
Israeli government and impose the two-state solution.
The argument as such is not new. Several experts have said more or
less the same in the past. (Immediately after the 9/11 attacks, I
wrote in a similar vein and prophesied that the US would change its
policy. It did not happen then.) But now this is being stated in an
official document written by the responsible American commander.
The Netanyahu government immediately went into damage-limitation mode.
Its spokespersons declared that Petraeus represents a narrow military
approach, that he doesn’t understand political matters, that his
reasoning is faulty. But it is not this that made people in Jerusalem
break out into cold sweat.
AS IS well known, the pro-Israel lobby dominates the American
political system without limits – almost. Every American politician
and senior official is mortally afraid of it. The slightest deviation
from the strict AIPAC line is tantamount to political suicide.
But in the armor of this political Goliath there is a chink. Like
Achilles’ heel, the immense might of the pro-Israel lobby has a
vulnerable point that, when touched, can neutralize its power.
It was illustrated by the Jonathan Pollard affair. This American-
Jewish employee of a sensitive intelligence agency spied for Israel.
Israelis consider him a national hero, a Jew who did his duty to his
people. But for the US intelligence community, he is a traitor who
endangered the lives of many American agents. Not satisfied with a
routine penalty, it induced the court to impose a life sentence. Since
then, all American presidents have refused the requests of successive
Israeli governments to commute the sentence. No president dared to
confront his intelligence chiefs in this matter.
But the most significant side of this affair is reminiscent of the
famous words of Sherlock Holmes about the dogs that did not bark.
AIPAC did not bark. The entire American Jewish community fell silent.
Almost nobody raised their voice for poor Pollard.
Why? Because most American Jews are ready to do anything – just
anything – for the government of Israel. With one exception: they will
not do anything that appears to hurt the security of the United
States. When the flag of security is hoisted, the Jews, like all
Americans, snap to attention and salute. The Damocles sword of
suspicion of disloyalty hangs above their heads. For them, this is the
ultimate nightmare: to be accused of putting the security of Israel
ahead of the security of the US. Therefore it is important for them to
repeat endlessly the mantra that the interests of Israel and the US
are identical.
And now comes the most important general of the US Army and says that
this is not so. The policy of the present Israeli government is
endangering the lives of American soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan.
FOR NOW, this is being said only as a side remark, in a military
document that has not been widely aired. But the sword has been drawn
from its scabbard – and American Jews have started to tremble at the
distant rumble of an approaching earthquake.
This week, Netanyahu’s brother-in-law has used our own doomsday
weapon. He declared that Obama is an “anti-Semite”. The official
newspaper of the Shas party has asserted that Obama is really a
Muslim. They represent the radical right and its allies, who argue in
speech and in writing that “Hussein” Obama is a Jew-hating black who
must be beaten in the coming congressional elections and in the next
presidential ones.
(Yet an important poll in Israel published yesterday shows that the
Israeli public is far from convinced by these insinuations: the vast
majority believes that Obama’s treatment of Israel is fair. Indeed,
Obama got higher marks than Netanyahu.)
If Obama decides to fight back and activate his doomsday weapon – the
accusation that Israel puts the lives of American servicemen at risk –
this would have catastrophic consequences for Israel.
For the time being, this is only a shot across the bow – a warning
shot fired by a warship in order to induce another vessel to follow
its instructions. The warning is clear. Even if the present crisis is
somehow damped down, it will inevitably flare up again and again as
long as the present coalition in Israel stays in power.
When the movie “Hurt Locker” won its awards, the entire American
public was united in its concern about the lives of its soldiers in
the Middle East. If this public becomes convinced that Israel is
sticking a knife in their back, it will be a disaster for Netanyahu.
And not just for him.
docremington
tdny wrote:
> http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article25062.htm
> Israel & Aid
> By Ralph Nader
>
Garbage. Typical of Nader, of course.
slightly horny
1948, the U.S. has given the Jewish State nearly a half-TRILLION
DOLLARS for "defensive purposes."
The longstanding but silly, human-created notion that Jerusalem is a
"holy city" notwithstanding, what RATIONAL reasoning is behind our
continued welfare contributions to a stubborn, uncooperative nation
that is assured of being, some day, annihilated by its Islamic
neighbors?
coaste...@yahoo.com
You didn't notice the Uri Avneri article on essentially the same
subject?
coaste...@yahoo.com
I've just posted the Israel-US Memorandum of Understanding providing
for these welfare contributions. I've added some observations as to
what I think it means.
dsharavi
wrote:
> IT IS already a commonplace to say that people who don’t learn from
> history are condemned to repeat their mistakes.
> Some 1942 years ago, the Jews in the province called Palaestina
> launched a revolt against the Roman Empire. In retrospect, this looks
> like an act of madness. Palestine was a small and insignificant part
> of the world-wide empire which had just won a crushing victory against
> the rival power – the Parthian Empire (Persia) – and put down a major
> rebellion in Britain. What chances could the Jewish revolt have?
Some 1942 years ago would be 68 CE. The Jewish revolt began in 66 CE
and lasted till 73 CE. There was no "province of Palaestina" until the
following century. Judaea and its environs, under native Jewish
rulers, as hardly insignificant to Rome. The "crushing victory"
against the Parthian Empire had been won a century earlier.
> God knows what was going on in the mind of the “Zealots”.
God knows what was going on in Avnery's mind, such as that may be.
>They
> eliminated the moderate leaders, who warned against provoking the
> empire, and gained sway over the Jewish population of the country.
> They relied on God. Perhaps they also relied on the Jews in Rome and
> believed that their influence over the Senate would restrain the
> Emperor, Nero. Perhaps they had heard that Nero was weak and >about tofall.
Nero was assassinated in 68 CE.
> We know how it ended: after three years, the rebels were crushed,
> Jerusalem fell and the temple was burned down. The last of the >Zealots committed suicide in Masada.
That was after seven years -- and it took five legions, and several
thousand auxiliary troops from as far away as Britain to put it down.
> The Zionists did indeed try to learn from history.
Avnery didn't bother.
No idea what his ignorance of history has to do with repeating it.
Deborah
dsharavi
wrote:
That was more garbage.
Deborah
dsharavi
wrote:
> I've just posted the Israel-US Memorandum of Understanding
Which one? There are several.
Deborah
docremington
icono...@yahoo.com wrote:
> docremington:
> > tdny wrote:
> > >http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article25062.htm
> > > Israel & Aid
> > > By Ralph Nader
> >
> > Garbage. Typical of Nader, of course.
>
> You didn't notice the Uri Avneri article on essentially the same
> subject?
>
garbage+garbage=more garbage, of course.
Michael Ejercito
> Since ISRAEL was illegally formed from stolen Palestinian land in
> 1948, the U.S. has given the Jewish State nearly a half-TRILLION
> DOLLARS for "defensive purposes."
>
Michael
Bolt Upright
for centuries are not allowed to return to their homes.
The reason? Their homes were stolen by zionist thugs.
Michael Ejercito
Michael
Bolt Upright
The UN passed a General Assembly Resolution (UNGAR181), which proposed a
two-state resolution for Palestine which the Jews accepted and the Arabs
declined. But like all UNGARs, it was *non-binding*. ie: All that 181
did was express the UN's desire - it gave nothing to anyone.
But, even had it done so, it certainly didn't give anyone the right to
boot people out of their homes without compensation or grant anyone the
refuse refugees the right to return to their homes at the cessation of
hostilities.
Michael Ejercito
Michael
Bolt Upright
(Irgun, Lehi) and by the use of terrorism.
Bolt Upright
But you know this.
So tell us, when is your aliya scheduled? As it is, you seem to be
keeping a nice, safe distance from your "Jewish paradise".
On 4/27/2011 12:27 PM, TheZ wrote:
> From the British?
> What an "FN" moron you are.
>
> "Bolt Upright"<Nob...@home.com> wrote in message
> news:9c2dd$4bae30ff$cf701d0d$12...@PRIMUS.CA...
TheZ
I have been to Israel many times, but unlike you, who is a traitor to his
countries ideals, I am not.
"Bolt Upright" <Nob...@home.com> wrote in message
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Michael Ejercito
> From the people who had lived there for several centuries.
> But you know this.
Michael
Michael Ejercito
Michael
Bolt Upright
My country's ideals? LOL!
My country's redneck minority prime minister's ideals, perhaps - but I
and plenty of others don't share them.
So, when is your aliya, you divided loyalty little man? I see that you
are very carefully keeping yourself an ocean and a continent away from
the "Jewish paradise". If the place is so wonderful, why are you not
there contributing to it and helping to defend the parasitic rogue
entity of Ersatz "isr-el"®? Hmmmmm?
Bolt Upright
permitted to carpet bag some of the spoils. The Jews of Europe were
deserving of restitution certainly, but not to the detriment of innocent
people who had done nothing to them. Had they been given say, Bavaria or
Prussia for a Jewish state I think that there would have been few
objections. And please, spare me the crap about the Grand Mufti. Yes, he
was a Nazi collaborator, but no pogroms happened as a result of this,
and the Arabs of Palestine didn't run around slaughtering Jews because
of that asshole.
Bolt Upright
coaste...@yahoo.com
Readers, please note Deborah Sharavi's disgraceful method of operation
on behalf of Israel and the Lobby. What I actually wrote about the
Memorandum of Understanding was as follows:
"I've just posted the Israel-US Memorandum of Understanding providing
for these welfare contributions. I've added some observations as to
what I think it means."
Deborah Sharavi wanted to keep you from reading the Memorandum---and
most importantly the comments on its legal status---for political
reasons, i.e., because she doesn't want you to know that the apparent
gift of $30 Billion in weapons over ten years is NOT BINDING ON THE
UNITED STATES. THE MEMORANDUM, OR ANY PART OF IT, MAY BE TERMINATED AT
WILL AT ANY TIME. So she clipped it after the word
"Understanding" (see about six lines above) in order to be able to
introduce a false impression of ambiguity which she then used to
interject, "Which one? There are several." That was an act of pure
deceit which is characteristic of her here in the role of champion of
the Israeli Lunatic Right and the Israel Lobby.
WHY IS THIS IMPORTANT TO ISRAEL AND THE LOBBY? The American people
generally don't know that the arms grant of $30 Billion over 10 years
is not a binding bi-lateral treaty ratified by the Senate. It is a
mere MOU, a mere declaration of the *present* intention of the U.S.
Accordingly they don't know that It can be cancelled or simply not
complied with at any time at the direction of the President with or
without an explanation. The most particular reason she doesn't want
you to know this is that currently there is a stand-off between
Netanyahu and President Obama which looks as though it is going to
escalate with America putting more and more pressure on the Israelis
to settle in good faith with the Palestinians. The endless pipeline of
weapons which flows to Israel constantly year after year, decade after
decade, can simply stop at any moment. Such is the power in the
relationship held by the President of the United States.
DoD
wrote:
> On Mar 25, 2:39 am, dsharavi <dshara...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Mar 24, 9:25 pm, "iconocl...@yahoo.com" <coaster132...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > I've just posted the Israel-US Memorandum of Understanding
>
> > Which one? There are several.
>
> > Deborah
>
> Readers, please note Deborah Sharavi's disgraceful method of operation
> on behalf of Israel and the Lobby.
LOL...filthy revisionist...
coaste...@yahoo.com
Don't forget the greatest of them all, Ben-Gurion, the Master Ethnic
Cleanser.
Bolt Upright
TheZ
I on the other hand will stay here to make sure we are not overrun by you
sicko's.
Unlike you I have no divided loyalties, just moral ethics that are uncommon
to your type.
If you don't like the PM and the country your in ..... leave.
"Bolt Upright" <Nob...@home.com> wrote in message
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Michael Ejercito
> On 3/28/2010 2:14 PM, Michael Ejercito wrote:> On Mar 28, 7:07 am, Bolt Upright<Nobo...@home.com> wrote:
>
> >> From the people who had lived there for several centuries.
> >> But you know this.
>
> > The Turks should not have lost the Great War.
>
> > Michael
>
> Yes they should have, but the flotsam and jetsam of WWII should not have
> permitted to carpet bag some of the spoils.
They defeated the Turks.
If the Turks did not want to lose that land, they should have won
the war, or maybe not enter it in the first place.
Michael
Zev
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Can't you guys read the question before you answer it?
Michael Ejercito
>
> > On Mar 28, 2:47 pm, "iconocl...@yahoo.com"<coaster132...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
>
> >> On Mar 25, 2:39 am, dsharavi<dshara...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>> Deborah
>
> >> Readers, please note Deborah Sharavi's disgraceful method of operation
> >> on behalf of Israel and the Lobby.
>
> > LOL...filthy revisionist...
>
> Who? The cannibal? She sure is, and then some!
Michael
Bolt Upright
> On Mar 28, 12:26 pm, Bolt Upright<Nobo...@home.com> wrote:
>
>> On 3/28/2010 2:14 PM, Michael Ejercito wrote:> On Mar 28, 7:07 am, Bolt Upright<Nobo...@home.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>> From the people who had lived there for several centuries.
>>>> But you know this.
>>>>
>>
>>> The Turks should not have lost the Great War.
>>>
>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>> Yes they should have, but the flotsam and jetsam of WWII should not have
>> permitted to carpet bag some of the spoils.
>>
> Why not?
>
> They defeated the Turks.
>
The European Jews didn't defeat the Turks, so why should they have
Palestine?
Bolt Upright
Michael Ejercito
> On 3/28/2010 8:15 PM, Michael Ejercito wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Mar 28, 12:26 pm, Bolt Upright<Nobo...@home.com> wrote:
>
> >> On 3/28/2010 2:14 PM, Michael Ejercito wrote:> On Mar 28, 7:07 am, Bolt Upright<Nobo...@home.com> wrote:
> >>> The Turks should not have lost the Great War.
>
> >>> Michael
>
> >> Yes they should have, but the flotsam and jetsam of WWII should not have
> >> permitted to carpet bag some of the spoils.
>
> > Why not?
>
> > They defeated the Turks.
>
> The European Jews didn't defeat the Turks, so why should they have
> Palestine?
>
Michael
Michael Ejercito
Michael
Bolt Upright
declared statehood after grabbing much more land than had been proposed
to them under UNGAR 181.
BTW, in an attempt to provoke me in another message of yours, you
inquired as to the whereabouts of this cannibalistic "recipe". Well, I'm
a generous sort and am pleased to grant your request...
flab...@lying.dyslexic.c-word.net wrote:
> On 16-Sep-2009, "Don Bailey" <baile...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Deborah Sharavi gave the world a cannibalistic recipe for killing/
>> eating Palestinians:
>
> No, lying imbecile, she did not.
<snip crap>
>
> Sowsan
You mean *THIS*, you lying sack of dogshit?
Deborah Sharavi Oct 11 2004, 11:32 pm
On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 14:17:58 +0200,
"Heinrich"<Heinr...@mailgate.org>wrote:
> As usual, you left out the part about the IDF
> eating their palestinian prey after they kill them.
> It's the reason the dead palestinian numbers
> are so low and the missing count is so high.
Nonsense. Pallies haul them away to their top restaurants.
Cider-Braised Palestinian Kid
8 small sage leaves
1 Palestinian Kid (can substitute pork, rattlesnake, or vulture)
2 Tbsp. chicken fat
1 medium onion, chopped coarsely
1 carrot, chopped coarsely
1 small turnip, chopped coarsely
2 cups apple cider or apple juice
1 bouquet garni made by tying together
3 sprigs of parsley, 2 sprigs of thyme and 1/2 bay leaf
1/4 cup parsley, chopped
Divide the sage leaves into equal portions
and dress the kid.
In a large flameproof casserole,
melt the fat over a high flame.
Brown the kid in the melted fat,
and then remove and reduce the flame.
Add the onion, carrot and turnip,
cover and let simmer for an hour.
Place the kid on vegetables and pour on the cider.
Bring to a boil, add the bouquet garni,
cover and transfer to a medium oven for 2 hours.
Remove the kid from the casserole
and set aside to keep warm.
Strain the liquids in the casserole,
pressing down on the vegetables
to squeeze out the liquids.
Place the kid on a warmed serving platter,
pour over some of the juices
and sprinkle with the parsley.
Serve the remaining juices separately.
Serves lots of Pallies.
Deborah
tdny
Israel & Aid
By Ralph Nader
March 23, 2010 "Information Clearing House" --
On July 10, 1996, at a Joint Session of the United States Congress,
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu received a standing
ovation for these words:
"With America's help, Israel has grown to be a powerful, modern state. .
But I believe there can be no greater tribute to America's long-standing
economic aid to Israel than for us to be able to say:
we are going to achieve economic independence.
We are going to do it.
In the next four years,
we will begin the long-term process of gradually
reducing the level of your generous economic
assistance to Israel."
Since 1996, the American taxpayers are still sending Israel $3 billion
a year and providing assorted loan guarantees, waivers, rich technology
transfers and other indirect assistance.
Before George W. Bush left office a memorandum of understanding
between the U.S. and Israel stipulated an assistance package of $30
billion over the next ten years to be transferred in a lump sum at the
beginning of every fiscal year. Israel's wars and colonies still receive
U.S. taxpayer monies.
What happened to Mr. Netanyahu's solemn pledge to the Congress?
The short answer is that Congress never called in the pledge.
In the intervening years,
Israel has become an economic, technological and military juggernaut.
Its GDP is larger than Egypt's even though Israel's
population is less than one tenth that of the Arab
world's most populous nation.
The second largest number of listings on America's NASDAQ
Exchange after U.S. companies are from Israel, exceeding listings of Japan,
Korea,
China and India combined.
Its venture capital investments exceed those
in the U.S., Europe and China on a per capita basis.
Israel is arguably the fifth most powerful military force in the world,
and Israel's claims on the U.S.'s latest weapon systems and
research/development breakthroughs are unsurpassed.
This combination has helped to make Israel a major arms exporter.
The Israeli "economic miracle" and technological innovations
have spawned articles and a best-selling book in recent months.
The country's average GDP growth rate has exceeded the
average rate of most western countries over the past five years.
Israel provides universal health insurance,
unlike the situation in the U.S.,
which raises the question of who
should be aiding whom?
Keep in mind,
the U.S. economy is mired in a recession,
with large rates of growing poverty,
unemployment, consumer debt and state
and federal deficits.
In some states, public schools are shutting,
public health services are being slashed,
and universities are increasing tuition while
also cutting programs.
Even state government buildings are being sold off.
Under U.S. law, military sales to Israel
cannot be used for offensive purposes,
only for "legitimate self-defense."
Nonetheless, there have been numerous violations of the
Arms Export Control Act by Israel. Even the indifferent State
Department has found, from time to time,
that munitions such as cluster bombs were "likely violations."
Violations would lead to a cut-off in aid but with
the completely pro-Israel climate in Washington,
the White House has never allowed such findings
to be definitive.
The same indifference applies to violations of the
U.S. Foreign Assistance Act that prohibits aid to
countries engaging in consistent international
human rights violations.
These include the occupation, colonization,
blockades and military assaults on civilians
in the Palestinian West Bank and Gaza,
regularly documented by the highly
regarded Israeli human rights group
B'Tselem as well as by Amnesty
International and Human Rights Watch.
This week,
Prime Minister Netanyahu visits President Barack Obama
after the recent Israeli announcement of 1,600 new housing
units in East Jerusalem made while Vice President Joe Biden
was visiting that country.
The affront infuriated New York Times columnist, Tom Friedman,
who wrote that Mr. Biden should have packed his bags and flown
away leaving behind a scribbled note saying
"You think you can embarrass your only true ally in the world,
to satisfy some domestic political need, with no consequences?
You have lost total contact with reality."
Friedman,
a former Times Middle East correspondent,
concluded his rebuke by writing:
"Palestinian leaders Mahmoud Abbas and Salam Fayyad are as
genuine and serious about working toward a solution as any
Israel can hope to find."
But until a few days ago,
the U.S. government had no levers over the Israeli government.
Cutting off aid isn't even whispered in the halls of Congress.
Raising the issue would further galvanize Israel's allies, including AIPAC.
The only lever left for the U.S. suddenly erupted into the public media a
few days ago.
General David Petraeus told the Senate that resolving the
Israeli-Palestinian conflict has foreign policy and national
security ramifications for the United States.
He said that
"The conflict foments anti-American sentiment,
due to a perception of U.S. favoritism for Israel.
Arab anger over the Palestinian question limits the
strength and depth of U.S. partnerships with
governments and peoples in the Area of Responsibility.
Meanwhile,
Al-Qaeda and other military groups
exploit that anger to mobilize support."
A few days earlier, Vice President Joe Biden told
Prime Minister Netanyahu in Israel that
"what you're doing here undermines the security
of our troops who are fighting in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan."
What Obama's people are publically starting to say is
that regional peace is about U.S. vital interests in that
large part of the Middle East and, ultimately, the safety
of American soldiers and personnel.
As one retired diplomat commented "This could be a game-changer."
coaste...@yahoo.com
> "iconocl...@yahoo.com" <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:9f9ef94c-59f1-4d49-
> b67f-126772c32...@a10g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Mar 28, 1:27 pm, Bolt Upright <Nobo...@home.com> wrote:
> >> On 3/28/2010 2:15 PM, Michael Ejercito wrote:
> >> > On Mar 27, 9:23 am, Bolt Upright<Nobo...@home.com> wrote:
> >> >> On 3/27/2010 11:58 AM, Michael Ejercito wrote:
> >> >>> On Mar 26, 5:08 pm, Bolt Upright<Nobo...@home.com> wrote:
> >> >>>> On 3/26/2010 1:17 PM, Michael Ejercito wrote:
> >> > Which terrorist acts would they be?
>
> >> > Michael
>
> >> Begin, Shamir and the vegetative fat cocksucker to name just three.
>
> > Don't forget the greatest of them all, Ben-Gurion, the Master Ethnic
> > Cleanser.
>
> Can't you guys read the question before you answer it?
Picky, picky, Zev. Ben-Gurion's greatest terrorist acts were those
which in sum resulted in the ethnic cleansing of Palestine in '47-'48.
I'll try not to confuse you in the future.
Michael Ejercito
> On 3/29/2010 1:10 PM, Michael Ejercito wrote:
>
> > On Mar 29, 9:57 am, Bolt Upright<Nobo...@home.com> wrote:
>
> >> On 3/28/2010 8:15 PM, Michael Ejercito wrote:
> >>> Why not?
>
> >>> They defeated the Turks.
>
> >> The European Jews didn't defeat the Turks, so why should they have
> >> Palestine?
>
> > It was a gift from those who DID defeat the Turks.
>
> > Michael
>
> It wasn't a "gift" from anyone, Michael. The zionists unilaterally
> declared statehood after grabbing much more land than had been proposed
> to them under UNGAR 181.
>
> BTW, in an attempt to provoke me in another message of yours, you
> inquired as to the whereabouts of this cannibalistic "recipe". Well, I'm
> a generous sort and am pleased to grant your request...
Okay.
>
>
>
> flabby...@lying.dyslexic.c-word.net wrote:
Do you disagree with this recipe?
Michael
coaste...@yahoo.com
Confusing this with poker, are you Michael?
Bolt Upright
Deborah Sharavi Oct 11
2004, 11:32 pm On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 14:17:58 +0200, �Heinrich�
<Heinr...@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > As usual, you left out the part about
the IDF eating their > palestinian prey after they kill them. > It�s
Zev
wrote:
I presume that means that in the future,
you'll read sentences until the end
(this question was only six words long).
coaste...@yahoo.com
You knew what was meant. This is petty. If on the other hand you'd
like to look at Ben-Gurion's role in one of the great crimes against
humanity in the 20th Century, I'll join you.
Zev
b371-2cd...@l5g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
*You* either knew what he meant or you didn't.
Either way, IMO, you wind up looking pretty foolish.
coaste...@yahoo.com
> "iconocl...@yahoo.com" <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> b371-2cdeee9f4...@l5g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
You know what I meant. This is the equivalent of a spelling flame.
That's why the foolishness rests with you. Let's get on to something
else.
zev
c0cbd4...@y14g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
In this thread, nothing rests with me.
Accept for my remark about reading a question
before answering it, I didn't take part in it.
In this case, the real culprit is Bolt,
who committed the blunder in the first place.
Your mistake was in assuming he had responded in good faith,
and blindly following in his footsteps.
Instead of admitting it and going on,
you try to defend it, making yourself look even worse.
dsharavi
>>>>>>>>>> Which terrorist acts would they be?
>>>>>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>>>On Mar 28, 1:27 pm, Bolt Upright <Nobo...@home.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>Begin, Shamir and the vegetative fat cocksucker to name just
>>>>>>>>>three.
>>>>>>>"iconocl...@yahoo.com" <coaster132...@yahoo.com>wrote
>>>>>>>>Don't forget the greatest of them all, Ben-Gurion, the Master
>>>>>>>>Ethnic Cleanser.
>>>>>>On Mar 29, 5:10 am, Zev <zev_h...@yahoo.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>Can't you guys read the question before you answer it?
Possibly it's less a matter of answering a question before reading it
than it is of failing to comprehend the question in the first place –
or, in H's case, pretending to misunderstand it.
>>>>>On Mar 30, 3:11 am, "iconocl...@yahoo.com" <coaster132...@yahoo.com>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>Picky, picky, Zev. Ben-Gurion's greatest terrorist acts were those
>>>>>>which in sum resulted in the ethnic cleansing of Palestine in
>>>>>>'47-'48.
>>>>>>I'll try not to confuse you in the future.
Obviously, it's H who's been confused by the propaganda he obediently
recites. He has never produced anything to support his borrowed
assertions regarding the “terrorist acts” he dutifully asserts Ben-
Gurion “committed”.
>>>>On Mar 30, 3:11 pm, Zev <zev_h...@yahoo.com>wrote:
>>>>>I presume that means that in the future,
>>>>>you'll read sentences until the end
>>>>>(this question was only six words long).
>>>"iconocl...@yahoo.com" <coaster132...@yahoo.com>wrote
>>>>You knew what was meant.
And so did H. Six or sixty words, H will continue to misunderstand all
such questions, as the correct answers contradict the unexamined
propaganda he continually recites.
>>>>This is petty.
So is H, as he continually proves.
>>>>If on the other hand you'd
>>>>like to look at Ben-Gurion's role in one of the great crimes against
>>>>humanity in the 20th Century, I'll join you.
Suuuuure he will.
>>On Mar 31, 1:54 pm, Zev <zev_h...@yahoo.com>wrote:
>>>*You* either knew what he meant or you didn't.
>>>Either way, IMO, you wind up looking pretty foolish.
Of course H knew what Michael meant. And of course H winds up looking
foolish. And of course H goes on to sidedodge the issue. “Examine B-
G's role in one of the 'greatest crimes against humanity in the 20th
Century' “ is an absolute howler.
>"iconocl...@yahoo.com" <coaster132...@yahoo.com>wrote
>>You know what I meant. This is the equivalent of a spelling flame.
>>That's why the foolishness rests with you. Let's get on to something
>>else.
On Apr 1, 2:22 am, zev <zevh...@gmail.com>wrote:
>In this thread, nothing rests with me.
>Accept for my remark about reading a question
>before answering it, I didn't take part in it.
>
>In this case, the real culprit is Bolt,
>who committed the blunder in the first place.
>Your mistake was in assuming he had responded in good faith,
>and blindly following in his footsteps.
>Instead of admitting it and going on,
>you try to defend it, making yourself look even worse.
That's H for you, like a good Communist propagandist, aways defending
the indefensible.
Deborah
dsharavi
wrote:
> You knew what was meant. This is petty. If on the other hand you'd
> like to look at Ben-Gurion's role in one of the great crimes against
> humanity in the 20th Century, I'll join you.
Go right ahead, H. Start producing some facts to support your
assertion. You do know what facts are, don't you?
Deborah
dsharavi
> On July 10, 1996, at a Joint Session of the United States Congress,
> Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu received a standing
> ovation for these words:
>
> "With America's help, Israel has grown to be a powerful, modern state. .
> But I believe there can be no greater tribute to America's long-standing
> economic aid to Israel than for us to be able to say:
>
> we are going to achieve economic independence.
>
> We are going to do it.
>
> In the next four years,
> we will begin the long-term process of gradually
> reducing the level of your generous economic
> assistance to Israel."
And they did just that. What did the Fakestininans do, in the
meantime? Increase the cost of world welfare to their regime. Unlike
US aid to Israel, Faketinian welfare is non-productive.
Deborah
Bolt Upright
Sadly, true. I hit the keyboard too quickly. Mea culpa.
coaste...@yahoo.com
Clip
> LOL...filthy revisionist...
My, my, such an outburst, David.
It is impossible for me to be a historical revisionist because I don't
write history. I am not an historian and have no contact with primary
sources. For you to think of me as an historian is flattering but
unwarranted. I'm just a retired country lawyer with curiosities beyond
my former professional work. So please, no more promotions.
Concentrate now. All professional historians aspire to revising our
understanding of the past. They are not thereby "filthy revisionists".
There is no generic "revisionist" creed or ideology even though the
process of historical research and anaylsis is often affected by
particular theoretical understandings which occasionally become
"schools" within a field and are fashionable for a time and then
become history themselves. Examples are the "great man" theory, the
Mahan school emphasizing the influence of naval power on history,
history informed by Marxian doctrine in all its class, materialist and
dialectical complexity, Professor Beard's economic history with
emphasis on the effect of the frontier in American life, etc.
Revision occurrs naturally over time as historians penetrate further
and further into the record using each other's work and ways of
looking at things as interesting entry points. An understanding of
the mechanism can be gained only two ways, by extensive reading, which
modesty requires me to disclaim, or the organized study of
historiography at the graduate level. At the professional level it's a
combination of both of course.
Except in authoritarian or extremely ethnocentric environments where
taboos reign, history is constantly being reexamined by independent
scholars. In the West we guard their freedom to improve our
understanding of the past and its nexus with the future. We don't
protect vested interests in discredited schools of thought, especially
those driven by political ideologies such as Zionism. It's part of
staying free.
We know what your outburst related to. You don't read but you resent
what you hear from me about the systematic erosion of the traditional,
patriotic/heroic history of Israel, now almost completely swept away
Israel's "new historians." The comfortable platitudes no longer
sustain your Zionist ideology. They've fallen especially hard as they
were not based on misinterpretations, but on manufactured myths and
misrepresentations of fact.
DoD
wrote:
> On Mar 28, 1:53 pm, DoD <danskisan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Clip
>
> > LOL...filthy revisionist...
>
> My, my, such an outburst, David.
>
> It is impossible for me to be a historical revisionist because I don't
> write history. I am not an historian and have no contact with primary
> sources.
You are also a filthy anti-semite that posts to revisionist newsgroup.
The
rest of what you spew doesn't matter.
coaste...@yahoo.com
> On Apr 1, 7:33 pm, "iconocl...@yahoo.com" <coaster132...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On Mar 28, 1:53 pm, DoD <danskisan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Clip
>
> > > LOL...filthy revisionist...
My, my, such an outburst, David. I must rise to the occasion and you
are morally bound to respond on the merits. So here is my little essay
again.
It is impossible for me to be a historical revisionist because I
don't
write history. I am not an historian and have no contact with
primary
by
Israel's "new historians." The comfortable platitudes no longer
sustain your Zionist ideology. They've fallen especially hard as they
were not based on misinterpretations, but on manufactured myths and
misrepresentations of fact.
> You are also a filthy anti-semite that posts to revisionist newsgroup.
> The
> rest of what you spew doesn't matter.
So, I'm an anti-Semite because I have posted to alt.revisionism? Tell
me how that works, David. I don't know the group well but do know that
there are some good minds there. So, what's your beef with them? Are
they anti-Semites too?
Tell me, am I an anti-Semite because I've shared some of the work of
the 'new historians" with you? Are those eminent Jewish historians all
anti-Semites too? How about the large and very bright audiences on
university campuses who gather to listen with such rapt attention to
Dr. Norman Finkelstein? Are they anti-Semites too? How about the large
movements of students and professors on campuses all over North
America calling for the boycott of Israel? Are they all anti-Semites
too? Are all of us who oppose Israeli treatment of the Palestinian
people anti-Semites? All of us in our millions, all anti-Semites?
Come on, tell us what is it you dislike about alt.revisionism. Maybe
it was a real good choice on my part? Are there too many free wheeling
intellectuals there? Did someone say something you didn't like? Did
they intimidate you?
BTW, I've replaced my little explanation of what revisionist history
is about. Why did you clip it
Best regards to Aunt Minnie.
DoD
wrote:
> On Apr 1, 8:32 pm, DoD <danskisan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Apr 1, 7:33 pm, "iconocl...@yahoo.com" <coaster132...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > On Mar 28, 1:53 pm, DoD <danskisan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Clip
>
> > > > LOL...filthy revisionist...
>
> My, my, such an outburst, David. I must rise to the occasion and you
> are morally bound to respond on the merits.
I am not bound to do anything that a left over nazi tells me. You
truly are disgusting.
george
wrote:
> My, my, such an outburst, David. I must rise to the occasion and you
> are morally bound to respond on the merits. So here is my little essay
> again.
You must be some form of retard to make the same antiJewish rant twice
and pretend that you're not a nazi Holocaust Revisionist
DoD
lol.....
mirjam
Of course you are Not a Historian , nor a revisionist , nor are you an
innocent bystander watching, who is spending his retirement writing
about what you observe.
You tourself agre that you are not a historian noer a revisionist .As
to your other claim , i would have bought it , if you had for a chnce
one time said one positive word about Jews and or Israel ,
Had you been just ..."a retired country lawyer with curiosities".....
your opinions would not have been so one sided ,
You would have at least ONCE wrotten outside this Unique one sided
Dogmatic pattern.
Had you been `just lawyer with curiosities` and not a well
established promoter of hate ppsts , than your Curiosities would have
lead you to read a bit more outside your Regular material, which seem
tyo be all in the same line .
I am not afraid of the `New Historions` , i know where and how they
are formed , and why some of them behave write and work like they
worked .
Zionism is alive, it has built a Wonderful country
But you are not even curios enough to learn the True facts , You are
so busy playing with `New liberal ideas`
You are lead by an so called Liberal ideologie whoxe wheels have been
oiled well , by the oil wells owners.
Yes we are under Attack by many people , who can`t see what is
happening under their own noses .
Zionism Is not a Myth , it has taken Milions of Jewish refugees and
helped us become Useful productive people ,
While UNRAWA + Arab Leader are to blame that other refugess don`t want
to work or rebuild their lifves ,why should they ? food meagre but
free food , health care and education are provided by the WORLD ,,,,,
Where is this UNRWA in Cyprus ? when it was divivded ? Where is in
Afghanistan ? where is it in any other part of the world where there
are Hungry people ?
mirjam
mirjam
Yes you are an Anti Semite because your posts deal ONLY with materials
that are Anti Jewish and Anti Israel !!!!
THUS willing or not you are an Anti Semite , you post ONLY Anti
Semite materials ,
And plaese don`t lean on other people`s behaviours , we are not
reading those people`s posts here , we are reading Incoclast `s
posts.
mirjam
Al Smith
Not everyone who reads these groups is a Zionist shill. Some
readers understand what you are saying. As for the shills, there
is no point in expecting anything of intelligence from them. They
are posting to a formula. There is no real content in their posts.
You may have noticed that all of their posts end with a personal
insult. This is calculated, a key part of the formula, and is
designed to cause posters such as yourself to abandon these groups
in disgust. Just bear in mind, the Zionist shills aren't the only
ones who read Usenet.
-Al-
dsharavi
<coaster132...@yahoo.com>wrote:
>It is impossible for me to be a historical revisionist because I don't
>write history. I am not an historian and have no contact with primary
>sources.
The only thing H has posted truer than the foregoing was when he
confessed: “I don't know.”
>Concentrate now. All professional historians aspire to revising our
>understanding of the past.
It doesn't take much concentration to glean from the foregoing that,
again, H doesn't know what he's talking about.
>Revision occurrs naturally over time as historians penetrate further
>and further into the record using each other's work and ways of
>looking at things as interesting entry points.
Revision occurs deliberately, and severely, when a historian disdains
facts and opts to twist them in the service of a particular ideology,
as is the admitted position with H's favorite, and apparently, sole
source for ME history.
>Except in authoritarian or extremely ethnocentric environments where
>taboos reign, history is constantly being reexamined by independent
>scholars.
Hence, the various takes on history, vis a vis the unchanging
narrative of H's beloved “Naqba”, itself the product of an
authoritarian and extremely ethnocentric environment which H
deliberately choose to ignore.
[snip usual H fluff]
Deborah
coaste...@yahoo.com
> "iconocl...@yahoo.com" <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> c0cbd4125...@y14g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
When are you going to shift back to substance?
coaste...@yahoo.com
docremington
Bolt Upright wrote:
> On 3/25/2010 10:04 AM, Michael Ejercito wrote:
> > On Mar 24, 1:49 pm, slightly horny<lilhor...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> Since ISRAEL was illegally formed from stolen Palestinian land in
> >> 1948, the U.S. has given the Jewish State nearly a half-TRILLION
> >> DOLLARS for "defensive purposes."
> >>
> > The land was not stolen.
> >
> Yes, it was.
>
Nah, it wasn't, of course.
> The proof is that the Palestinian refugees who lived on it
> for centuries are not allowed to return to their homes.
Immigrant settling-squatting arab bros from the hood arrogantly
believe they are better, than the japanese, who still can't get their
islands back from Russia.
docremington
Bolt Upright wrote:
> On 3/26/2010 1:17 PM, Michael Ejercito wrote:
> > On Mar 25, 1:21 pm, Bolt Upright<Nobo...@home.com> wrote:
> > Israel received the land from the United Nations.
> >
> No they did not. The zionists unilaterally declared statehood.
>
Cool. In other words, arabs succeeded in created the jewish state.
> The UN passed a General Assembly Resolution (UNGAR181), which proposed a
> two-state resolution for Palestine which the Jews accepted and the Arabs
> declined. But like all UNGARs, it was *non-binding*. ie: All that 181
> did was express the UN's desire - it gave nothing to anyone.
Let us review the factual timeline, with the stress on factual
historically:
May 15, 1947 - The General Assembly established a Special Committee on
Palestine (UNSCOP).
August 31 - The UNSCOP recommended partition of Palestine with an
internationalised Jerusalem, a minority report recommended a
federation.
September 29 - The Arab higher committee rejected the UNSCOP
recommendation formally.
October 2 - The Jewish agency accepted the UNSCOP recommendation
formally.
November 29 - The UN approved the partition.
November 30 - Arab mobs attacked jews in Jerusalem, arab armed thugs
began operations against jews everywhere.
March 19, 1948 - The US proposed a partition suspension and called for
a special session of the GA to discuss trusteeship.
April 1 - The Security Council called for a truce and a special
session of the GA to reconsider future of Palestine.
May 13 - Feisty Jaffa arabs got kicked by hagana.
May 14 - Declaration of Independence. The US recognized Israel de
facto.
May 14 - The British mandate ended. Arab armies invaded Israel.
May 17 - The USSR recognized Israel.
May 19 - Jerusalem cut off by arabs.
May 1948 - July 1949 - War.
> But, even had it done so, it certainly didn't give anyone the right to
> boot people out of their homes without compensation or grant anyone the
> refuse refugees the right to return to their homes at the cessation of
> hostilities.
It's just the palisimian/arab misguided entitlement mentality.
MadProstate
There can be no "settlement" unless one of the factions -- Jew or
Muslim -- permanently leaves its "homeland."
The RELIGIOUS DIVIDE that prevents peace cannot be solved.
And face it, Jerusalem is the prize in a tug-of-war between two
obstinate, childish enemies that place unrealistic value on the
outdated notion of a "Holy City."
One suggestion (that'll never fly) would be to have the UN Secretary
General flip a coin, and the "winner" gets to stay, the loser, with
international assistance, quits the Middle East for a donated,
designated new "homeland."
Somewhere.
Maybe Northern Canada or a piece of Nevada.
Bolt Upright
1948. They flat out stole the place and squatted there.
Bolt Upright
resolutions.
Bolt Upright
docremington
Bolt Upright wrote:
> docremington:
Like Husseinovitch 0'Bummah, who teaches Israel manners, while
squatting on the iroquois territory?
docremington
Bolt Upright wrote:
> docremington:
Which do not apply, of course.
> not to mention endless UN
> resolutions.
And no resolutions and resolution-thumping on the japanese islands?
Thus, the UN is a racist sewer and, hence, worthless, together with
its little resolutions.
Zev
bc7a-369...@l25g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
In this thread, I have nothing to "shift back" to,
but when are you going to tell us if you knew
what Michael meant or you didn't?
Bolt Upright
possibly the odd raiding party, but thanks for playing.
dsharavi
lol
Deborah
coaste...@yahoo.com
Or from the United States for that matter.
TheZ
Now tell us what centuries the Arabs lived there.
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Aviroce
you need to trace back when Canaan was in power. Then look at how
long these Jews live in Palestine. If Nabuchannezzer took Jews
captives, an\d Babylone was prime about 2400 before Christ, how could
Jews ever existed before that?
The fact of the matter is this: You find a trilobite moving in
Palestine and say that the trilobite is your ancestor. But
descendants of trilobites are roaches. Are Jews roaches?
On Apr 4, 6:31 pm, "TheZ" <T...@nospam.com> wrote:
> The Jews owned and lived on the land for 5770 years.
> Now tell us what centuries the Arabs lived there.
>
> "iconocl...@yahoo.com" <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> news:d6283fc6-82f8-4c3d...@x3g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 3, 6:00 am, docremington <docreming...@safe-mail.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Bolt Upright wrote:
> > > On 3/25/2010 10:04 AM, Michael Ejercito wrote:
> > > > On Mar 24, 1:49 pm, slightly horny<lilhor...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > >> Since ISRAEL was illegally formed from stolen Palestinian land in
> > > >> 1948, the U.S. has given the Jewish State nearly a half-TRILLION
> > > >> DOLLARS for "defensive purposes."
>
> > > > The land was not stolen.
>
> > > Yes, it was.
>
> > Nah, it wasn't, of course.
>
> > > The proof is that the Palestinian refugees who lived on it
> > > for centuries are not allowed to return to their homes.
>
> > Immigrant settling-squatting arab bros from the hood arrogantly
> > believe they are better, than the japanese, who still can't get their
> > islands back from Russia.
>
> Or from the United States for that matter.- Hide quoted text -
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Bolt Upright
took a turn punting the Jews out of the region, so your prattle of 5770
years of continuous ownership is a lie. Granted, a very *few* Jews lived
there since Roman times, but they certainly didn't "own" Palestine or
even a tiny fraction of it. In any event, all these dispossessed Jewish
Poles, Ukes, Russkis and whatnot that showed up post-WWII certainly had
no claim on the place. They had never even *seen* it, much less set foot
there.
On 4/4/2010 9:31 PM, TheZ bullshitted in a top-post:
dsharavi
> You need to trace back the first time Israelite was used.
13th century BCE.
> Secondly
> you need to trace back when Canaan was in power.
Never.
>Then look at how long these Jews live in Palestine.
Since the 13thC BCE -- at least.
> If Nabuchannezzer took Jews captives,
587 BCE.
>an\d Babylone was prime about 2400 before Christ,
Babylon wasn't "prime" in 4400 BCE.
>how could Jews ever existed before that?
Quite easily.
> The fact of the matter is this: You find a trilobite moving in
> Palestine and say that the trilobite is your ancestor.
Actually, it's today's Arab "Palestinians" who are prone to such
claims.
>But descendants of trilobites are roaches. Are Jews roaches?
Today's "Palestinians" say Jews are pigs and monkeys, so how can they
be roaches?
Deborah
coaste...@yahoo.com
> Horeseshit. The Egyptians, Babylonians, Phoenicians and Romans *all*
> took a turn punting the Jews out of the region, so your prattle of 5770
> years of continuous ownership is a lie. Granted, a very *few* Jews lived
> there since Roman times, but they certainly didn't "own" Palestine or
> even a tiny fraction of it. In any event, all these dispossessed Jewish
> Poles, Ukes, Russkis and whatnot that showed up post-WWII certainly had
> no claim on the place. They had never even *seen* it, much less set foot
> there.
Neither they nor their ancestors. But the big scam is the suggestion
that it would matter were it true. It's just space filler in the
propaganda noise.
coaste...@yahoo.com
coaste...@yahoo.com
wrote:Clip
> > Today's "Palestinians" say Jews are pigs and monkeys,
Clip
Therefore, the people described as pigs and monkeys own Palestine?
Aviroce
> Horeseshit. The Egyptians, Babylonians, Phoenicians and Romans *all*
> took a turn punting the Jews out of the region, so your prattle of 5770
> years of continuous ownership is a lie. Granted, a very *few* Jews lived
> there since Roman times, but they certainly didn't "own" Palestine or
> even a tiny fraction of it. In any event, all these dispossessed Jewish
> Poles, Ukes, Russkis and whatnot that showed up post-WWII certainly had
> no claim on the place. They had never even *seen* it, much less set foot
> there.
>
> On 4/4/2010 9:31 PM, TheZ bullshitted in a top-post:
>
>
>
> > The Jews owned and lived on the land for 5770 years.
> > Now tell us what centuries the Arabs lived there.
>
> >news:d6283fc6-82f8-4c3d...@x3g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
> > On Apr 3, 6:00 am, docremington<docreming...@safe-mail.net> wrote:
>
> >> Bolt Upright wrote:
>
> >>> On 3/25/2010 10:04 AM, Michael Ejercito wrote:
>
> >>>> On Mar 24, 1:49 pm, slightly horny<lilhor...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>> Since ISRAEL was illegally formed from stolen Palestinian land in
> >>>>> 1948, the U.S. has given the Jewish State nearly a half-TRILLION
> >>>>> DOLLARS for "defensive purposes."
>
> >>>> The land was not stolen.
>
> >>> Yes, it was.
>
> >> Nah, it wasn't, of course.
>
> >>> The proof is that the Palestinian refugees who lived on it
> >>> for centuries are not allowed to return to their homes.
>
> >> Immigrant settling-squatting arab bros from the hood arrogantly
> >> believe they are better, than the japanese, who still can't get their
> >> islands back from Russia.
>
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Even these Jews who lived in Palestine since Israel was a Roman
colony, these Jews would be Palestinian and they are very few. During
the Persian Empire, the king of Persia asked the Jews to come back to
Palestine. No takers. Only Zionism distorted Judaism, destroyed it
and destroyed what they wanted to create, Kingdom of Zion where non-
Jews are slaves. By establishing the Palestinian state, the Kingdom
of Zion will never exist.
Aviroce
you on Jews from a research point of view. Your statements are
uttered authoritatively and ignorantly or propagandistically.
mirjam
>
During
> the Persian Empire, the king of Persia asked the Jews to come back to
> Palestine. No takers.
Wrong ,,,,,,,,better read this
The Return to Zion (Hebrew: שיבת ציון, Shivat Tzion, or שבי ציון,
Shavei Tzion, lit. Zion Returnees) is a term that refers to the event
in which the Jews returned to the Land of Israel from the Babylonian
exile following the decree by the Persian emperor Cyrus the Great, the
conqueror of the Babylonian empire in 538 BC, also known as Cyrus's
Declaration.
Although the term was first coined after the destruction of the Second
Temple (mentioned in the Song of Degrees[1]), it was attributed to the
event of the return of the Jews from the Babylonian exile to the Land
of Israel after the destruction of the First Temple, following the
decree of Cyrus the Great.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Return_to_Zion
NefeshBarYochai
Mirjam you really turn me on when you write like that. You know I've
had my way with beautiful and even not so beautiful women before. I
can’t be trusted in a room alone with a woman. I have a reputation to
uphold. What if I were to tell you my Yetzer has delivered thousands
to Israel?
Aviroce
He is dating Jews for over 5000 years since time began on human
civilization to form family and farm. It is an analogy. I am sure no
such critter exists.
Aviroce
You have a problem with Zionism. The Kingdom of Zion is a world
kingdom where non-Jews would be beasts or slaves consistent with
Jewish ideology of supremacy as "Gods" of the world.
Aviroce
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Back to trash.
mirjam
world
Al-Qaeda: The Next Goal Is to Liberate Spain from the Infidels
Lt. Col. (res.) Jonathan Dahoah-Halevi
Large parts of the Iberian Peninsula were under Islamic rule from 711
until 1492, with the final eviction of the Moors from what they called
al-Andalus, and the memory of Islamic rule in Spain has become
increasingly part of the discourse in radical Islam.
Osama bin Laden has written: "We request of Allah...that the [Islamic]
nation should regain its honor and prestige, should raise again the
unique flag of Allah on all stolen Islamic land, from Palestine to
Andalus." Bin Laden's mentor, Abdullah Azzam, established that the
Islamic obligation to wage jihad in order to recover lost Islamic
territories applies to Andalusia.
Sheikh Yusuf Qaradawi, the spiritual head of the Muslim Brotherhood,
has written that while Islam was twice evicted from Europe - from al-
Andalus and from Greece - it is now in the process of returning.
A children's magazine published by Hamas, the Palestinian branch of
the Muslim Brotherhood, called on Palestinian children to restore the
city of Seville to Islamic rule as well as the rest of what was once
Islamic Spain.
Israel, therefore, is a small link in the greater confrontation
between radical Islam and the West. Accepting the Arabs' terms for a
Middle East settlement, or even going so far as "liberating" Palestine
from Israeli rule, will not be the last stop in the radical Islamic
journey being led by the Muslim Brotherhood and al-Qaeda, which share
the vision of spreading Islam all over the world.
Indeed, for the West, Israel constitutes a dike against the great wave
of radical Islam. The very same principle invoked for waging war
against Israel - recovery of what was once Islamic territory - is
being applied to Spain, the Balkans, Southern Russia, and India.
European pressure on Israel to make political concessions that
endanger its security will only bring closer the next stage of Islam's
offensive, this time aimed at the heart of Europe.
Al-Qaeda Recalls Islamic Rule in Spain
Historically, large parts of the Iberian Peninsula were under Islamic
rule from 711 until 1492, with the final eviction of the Moors from
what they called al-Andalus. Despite the passage of over five hundred
years, the memory of Islamic rule in Spain has become increasingly
part of the discourse in radical Islamic circles.
Ayman al-Zawahiri, deputy of Osama bin Laden in the al-Qaeda
leadership, in a new tape publicized on 20 September 2007, referred to
the global aspirations of the Islamic Revolution:
O, our Muslim nation in the Maghreb [North Africa], zone of deployment
for battle and jihad! The return of Andalus [today's Spain] to Muslim
hands is a duty for the [Islamic] nation in general and for you in
particular. You will not be able to achieve this except by purifying
the Islamic Maghreb of the French and the Spanish who have once again
returned, after your fathers and grandfathers had expelled them
unsparingly in the way of Allah.
Earlier, in December 2006, al-Zawahiri made a passing reference to
"Spain's occupation of Ceuta and Melilla," two small enclaves on the
North African coast that are under Spanish sovereignty.
This is not the first time al-Qaeda leaders have referred to the
Iberian Peninsula as occupied Muslim territory to which the
commandment of jihad applies until it is liberated and Islamic rule is
imposed there. On 29 September 1994, Osama bin Laden wrote to Sheikh
Abdul Aziz bin Baz, the Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia: "All in all, we
request of Allah...that the [Islamic] nation should regain its honor
and prestige, should raise again the unique flag of Allah on all
stolen Islamic land, from Palestine to Andalus, as well as Islamic
lands that were lost because of the treachery of leaders and the
helplessness of the Muslims."1
This view is deeply embedded in the thinking of those Islamist leaders
who served as an ideological wellspring for al-Qaeda. Bin Laden's
mentor, Abdullah Azzam, established that the Islamic obligation to
wage jihad in order to recover lost Islamic territories applies to al-
Andalus.2
Sheikh Safar al-Hawali, who was one of the most powerful Islamist
preachers in Saudi Arabia, wrote a letter to President George W. Bush
on October 15, 2001 - after the 9/11 attacks - in which he explained:
"Imagine Mr. President, we still weep over Andalusia and remember what
Ferdinand and Isabella did there to our religion, culture and honor!
We dream of regaining it."3
It should not be surprising that these repeated references in jihadist
circles to al-Andalus have had an impact on how new al-Qaeda
affiliates have defined their long-term goals. These groups do not
work in a vacuum; the Saudi Gazette reported in March 2005 that there
are four million descendents of refugees from Muslim Spain currently
living in Morocco, Algeria, and Tunisia. In Morocco, the fall of
Granada and al-Andalus is commemorated by many of these descendents.4
The theme of al-Andalus appears among jihadi organizations in a
variety of ways. In a January 2007 speech, Abu Musab Abdul Wadud, the
commander of the Algerian Salafist Group for Prayer and Combat (GSPC),
addressed Algerian Muslims as the grandchildren of Tariq bin Ziyad,
who crossed the Straits of Gibraltar in 711 with an Islamic army and
conquered most of the Iberian Peninsula.5 GSPC cells have been known
to have operated across Spain in the last number of years.
More recently, in June 2007, Islamist websites announced the
establishment of "Ansar al-Islam in the Muslim Sahara, Land of the
Veiled Ones."6 The organization promised to win back al-Andalus, as
well as declaring war on the current North African regimes: "Our raids
will not encompass just the Muslim Sahara, but will go beyond it....Al-
Andalus is before our eyes, and with Allah's help we will take back
the Land of Islam and what was plundered from our forefathers, no
matter how long this takes."7
One website announcing the formation of the group featured a map
showing "The Great Islamic Caliphate" which it sought to advance,
stretching from Spain across North Africa and the Middle East to India
and Western China.
The Muslim Brotherhood Views Spain as Part of the Islamic Homeland
Aviroce
Palestine. Palestine.
2) Spain per your article was an Arab-Spanish country for 700 years.
These so-called Spanish children have been Arab-Spanish children
separated from their ancestors artificially. You should visit
southern Spain to see how Arabic Spain is. Then it is up to the
Spanish to decide what they want to be. If you look at many Western
African countries that have become Arabic, such countries were not
considered Arabic. Now they find theselves Arabic.
3) Some Midetterarian islands are Arabic too. The islands themselves
will have to decide who they are. For instance, Sicily has been
Arabic for many centuries. Italians have fear of these foreign people
of the island; they call them Siciliano and Sicilianos are more feared
in mainland Italy than any group of people.
4) Look at Yogoslavia which became divided. People were waiting for
centures to be separated from strangers they were forced to mix with
them.
5) There was an Arabian Peninsula. Now we have too many countries
formed on the peninsula to satisfy the ambition and greed of Western
countries.
dsharavi
> wrote:
> On Apr 6, 5:13 pm, dsharavi <dshara...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
wrote:
> Clip
>
> > > Today's "Palestinians" say Jews are pigs and monkeys,
>
> Clip
>
> Therefore, the people described as pigs and monkeys own Palestine?
No, the people described as pigs and monkeys are your maternal
ancestors and have nothing to do with Jews and Israel.
Deborah
Aviroce
ORGANS ARE USED TO SUBSTITUTE FOR HUMAN ORGANS. THAT IS WHY PIGS
COULD PASS THE WORST TYPE OF DISEASES TO HUMANS AND WHY MUSLIMS AND
JEWS FORBID EATING PIGS' MEAT IN THE OLDEN DAYS.
AS FOR MONKEYS, ALL HUMANS ARE DERIVED FROM MONKEYS. IT IS USED
METAPHORICALLY AGAINST JEWS BECAUSE THEY WERE REJECTING ISLAM AND
FIGHTING IT BACK WHEN THE PROPHET MOHAMMED USED ISLAM AS A UNIVESAL
RELIGION, A UNIVERSAL SOCIAL, LEGAL SYSTEM, INCLUDING LEADERS OF JEWS
AND LEADERS OF CHRISTIANITY. YET THE LAST SET OF LEADERS'
REPRESENTATIVES FOUGHT THE ISLAMIC SYSTEM.
NOW THAT JEWS HAVE THE MOST ADVANCED POWER IN THEIR SUPPORT, THEY ARE
TRYING TO DOMINATE THE MUSLIMS AND STEAL ARAB PALESTINE INSPITE OF
ARABS AND MUSLIMS AND OF COURSE THE PEOPLE OF PALESTINE. THEY ARE
DOING THAT THROUGH ATROCIOUS SAVAGERY IN PALESTINE.
HERE IS A GOOD ANALYSIS OF JEWISH BELIEFS AND PRACTICES ABHORRENT TO
HUMAN RACE
:B. H. Cramer (iamhre@them'oment.bizz) posted the following
information
about the different aspects of Jewish culture. It is an appalling
culture where Jesus is the bastard and wicked sorcerer and it is
permitted to have intercourse with a three year old and it is the
objective of a Jew to kill gentiles and more.
Some Teachings of the Jewish Talmud
Where a Jew Should Do Evil
Moed Kattan 17a: If a Jew is tempted to do evil he should go to a
city
where he is not known and do the evil there.
Penalty for Disobeying Rabbis
Erubin 21b. Whosoever disobeys the rabbis deserves death and will be
punished by being boiled in hot excrement in hell.
Hitting a Jew is the same as hitting God
Sanhedrin 58b. If a heathen (gentile) hits a Jew, the gentile must be
killed.
O.K. to Cheat Non-Jews
Sanhedrin 57a . A Jew need not pay a gentile ("Cuthean") the wages
owed
him for work.
Jews Have Superior Legal Status
Baba Kamma 37b. "If an ox of an Israelite gores an ox of a Canaanite
there is no liability; but if an ox of a Canaanite gores an ox of an
Israelite...the payment is to be in full."
Jews May Steal from Non-Jews
Baba Mezia 24a . If a Jew finds an object lost by a gentile
("heathen")
it does not have to be returned. (Affirmed also in Baba Kamma 113b).
Sanhedrin 76a. God will not spare a Jew who "marries his daughter to
an
old man or takes a wife for his infant son or returns a lost article
to
a Cuthean..."
Jews May Rob and Kill Non-Jews
Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a gentile ("Cuthean"), there will
be
no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a gentile he may keep.
Baba Kamma 37b. The gentiles are outside the protection of the law
and
God has "exposed their money to Israel."
Jews May Lie to Non-Jews
Baba Kamma 113a. Jews may use lies ("subterfuges") to circumvent a
Gentile.
Non-Jewish Children are Sub-Human
Yebamoth 98a. All gentile children are animals.
Abodah Zarah 36b. Gentile girls are in a state of niddah (filth) from
birth.
Abodah Zarah 22a-22b . Gentiles prefer sex with cows.
Insults Against Blessed Mary
Sanhedrin 106a . Says Jesus' mother was a whore: "She who was the
descendant of princes and governors played the harlot with
carpenters."
Also in footnote #2 to Shabbath 104b of the Soncino edition, it is
stated that in the "uncensored" text of the Talmud it is written that
Jesus mother, "Miriam the hairdresser," had sex with many men.
Gloats over Christ Dying Young
A passage from Sanhedrin 106 gloats over the early age at which Jesus
died: "Hast thou heard how old Balaam (Jesus) was?--He replied: It is
not actually stated but since it is written, Bloody and deceitful men
shall not live out half their days it follows that he was thirty-
three
or thirty-four years old."
Jesus in the Talmud:
Horrible Blasphemies Against Jesus Christ
While it is the standard disinformation practice of apologists for
the
Talmud to deny that it contains any scurrilous references to Jesus
Christ, certain Orthodox Jewish organizations are more forthcoming
and
admit that the Talmud not only mentions Jesus but disparages him (as
a
sorcerer and a demented sex freak). These orthodox Jewish
organizations
make this admission perhaps out of the belief that Jewish supremacy
is
so well-established in the modern world that they need not concern
themselves with adverse reactions.
For example, on the website of the Orthodox Jewish Hasidic Lubavitch
group--one of the largest in the world--we find the following
statement,
complete with Talmudic citations:
"The Talmud (Babylonian edition) records other sins of 'Jesus the
Nazarene':
1) He and his disciples practiced sorcery and black magic, led Jews
astray into idolatry, and were sponsored by foreign, gentile powers
for
the purpose of subverting Jewish worship (Sanhedrin 43a).
2) He was sexually immoral, worshipped statues of stone (a brick is
mentioned), was cut off from the Jewish people for his wickedness,
and
refused to repent (Sanhedrin 107b; Sotah 47a).
3) He learned witchcraft in Egypt and, to perform miracles, used
procedures that involved cutting his flesh, which is also explicitly
banned in the Bible (Shabbos 104b).
End quote from http://www.noahide.com/yeshu.htm (Lubavitch website)
June
20, 2000.
[Note: we have printed and preserved in our files a hard copy of this
statement from the Lubavitch"Noah's Covenant Website," as it appeared
on
their website at http://www.noahide.com on June 20, 2000, in the
event
that denials are later issued and the statement itself suppressed].
Let us examine further some of these anti-Christ Talmud passages:
Gittin 57a. Says Jesus is in hell, being boiled in "hot excrement."
Sanhedrin 43a. Says Jesus ("Yeshu" and in Soncino footnote #6, Yeshu
"the Nazarene") was executed because he practiced sorcery: "It is
taught
that on the eve of Passover Jesus was hung, and forty days before
this
the proclamation was made: Jesus is to be stoned to death because he
has
practiced sorcery and has lured the people to idolatry...He was an
enticer and of such thou shalt not pity or condone."
Kallah 51a."The elders were once sitting in the gate when two young
lads
passed by; one covered his head and the other uncovered his head. Of
him
who uncovered his head Rabbi Eliezer remarked that he is a bastard.
Rabbi Joshua remarked that he is the son of a niddah (a child
conceived
during a woman's menstrual period). Rabbi Akiba said that he is both
a
bastard and a son of a niddah.
"They said, 'What induced you to contradict the opinion of your
colleagues?' He replied, "I will prove it concerning him." He went to
the lad's mother and found her sitting in the market selling beans.
"He said to her, 'My daughter, if you will answer the question I will
put to you, I will bring you to the world to come.' (eternal life).
She
said to him, 'Swear it to me.'
"Rabbi Akiba, taking the oath with his lips but annulling it in his
heart, said to her, 'What is the status of your son?' She replied,
'When
I entered the bridal chamber I was niddah (menstruating) and my
husband
kept away from me; but my best man had intercourse with me and this
son
was born to me.' Consequently the child was both a bastard and the
son
of a niddah.
"It was declared, '..Blessed be the God of Israel Who Revealed His
Secret to Rabbi Akiba..."
In addition to the theme that God rewards clever liars, the preceding
Talmud discussion is actually about Jesus Christ (the bastard boy who
"uncovered his head" and was conceived in the filth of menstruation).
The boy's adulterous mother in this Talmud story is the mother of
Christ, Blessed Mary (called Miriam and sometimes, Miriam the
hairdresser, in the Talmud).
"The Editio Princeps of the complete Code of Talmudic Law,
Maimonides'
Mishneh Torah -- replete not only with the most offensive precepts
against all Gentiles but also with explicit attacks on Christianity
and
on Jesus (after whose name the author adds piously, 'May the name of
the
wicked perish')... --Dr. Israel Shahak, Jewish History, Jewish
Religion,
p. 21.
"The Talmud contains a few explicit references to Jesus...These
references are certainly not complimentary...There seems little doubt
that the account of the execution of Jesus on the eve of Passover
does
refer to the Christian Jesus...The passage in which Jesus' punishment
in
hell is described also seems to refer to the Christian Jesus. It is a
piece of anti-Christian polemic dating from the post-70 CE period..."
--Hyam Maccoby, Judaism on Trial, pp. 26-27.
"According to the Talmud, Jesus was executed by a proper rabbinical
court for idolatry, inciting other Jews to idolatry, and contempt of
rabbinical authority. All classical Jewish sources which mention his
execution are quite happy to take responsibility for it; in the
talmudic
account the Romans are not even mentioned.
"The more popular accounts--which were nevertheless taken quite
seriously--such as the notorious Toldot Yeshu are even worse, for in
addition to the above crimes they accuse him of witchcraft. The very
name 'Jesus' was for Jews a symbol of all that is abominable and this
popular tradition still persists...
"The Hebrew form of the name Jesus--Yeshu--was interpreted as an
acronym
for the curse, 'may his name and memory be wiped out,' which is used
as
an extreme form of abuse. In fact, anti-zionist Orthodox Jews (such
as
Neturey Qarta) sometimes refer to Herzl as 'Herzl Jesus' and I have
found in religious zionist writings expressions such as "Nasser
Jesus"
and more recently 'Arafat Jesus." --Dr. Israel Shahak, Jewish
History,
Jewish Religion, pp. 97- 98, 118.
Talmud Attacks Christians and Christian Books
Rosh Hashanah 17a. Christians (minnim) and others who reject the
Talmud
will go to hell and be punished there for all generations.
Sanhedrin 90a. Those who read the New Testament ("uncanonical books")
will have no portion in the world to come.
Shabbath 116a. Jews must destroy the books of the Christians, i.e.
the
New Testament.
Dr. Israel Shahak of Hebrew University reports that the Israelis
burned
hundreds of New Testament Bibles in occupied Palestine on March 23,
1980
(cf. Jewish History, Jewish Religion, p. 21).
Sick and Insane Teachings of the Talmud
Gittin 69a . To heal his flesh a Jew should take dust that lies
within
the shadow of an outdoor toilet, mix with honey and eat it.
Shabbath 41a. The law regulating the rule for how to urinate in a
holy
way is given.
Yebamoth 63a. States that Adam had sexual intercourse with all the
animals in the Garden of Eden.
Yebamoth 63a. Declares that agriculture is the lowest of occupations.
Sanhedrin 55b. A Jew may marry a three year old girl (specifically,
three years "and a day" old).
Sanhedrin 54b. A Jew may have sex with a child as long as the child
is
less than nine years old.
Kethuboth 11b. "When a grown-up man has intercourse with a little
girl
it is nothing."
Yebamoth 59b. A woman who had intercourse with a beast is eligible to
marry a Jewish priest. A woman who has sex with a demon is also
eligible
to marry a Jewish priest.
Abodah Zarah 17a. States that there is not a whore in the world that
the
Talmudic sage Rabbi Eleazar has not had sex with. On one of his
whorehouse romps, Rabbi Eleazar leanred that there was one particular
prostitute residing in a whorehouse near the sea, who would receive a
bag of money for her services. He took a bag of money and went to
her,
crossing seven rivers to do so. During their intercourse the
prostitute
farted. After this the whore told Rabbi Eleazar: "Just as this gas
will
never return to my anus, Rabbi Eleazar will never get to heaven."
Hagigah 27a. States that no rabbi can ever go to hell.
Baba Mezia 59b. A rabbi debates God and defeats Him. God admits the
rabbi won the debate.
Gittin 70a. The Rabbis taught: "On coming from a privy (outdoor
toilet)
a man should not have sexual intercourse till he has waited long
enough
to walk half a mile, because the demon of the privy is with him for
that
time; if he does, his children will be epileptic."
Gittin 69b. To heal the disease of pleurisy ("catarrh") a Jew should
"take the excrement of a white dog and knead it with balsam, but if
he
can possibly avoid it he should not eat the dog's excrement as it
loosens the limbs."
Pesahim 111a. It is forbidden for dogs, women or palm trees to pass
between two men, nor may others walk between dogs, women or palm
trees.
Special dangers are involved if the women are menstruating or sitting
at
a crossroads.
Menahoth 43b-44a. A Jewish man is obligated to say the following
prayer
every day: Thank you God for not making me a gentile, a woman or a
slave.
Tall Tales of a Roman Holocaust
Here are two early "Holocaust" tales from the Talmud: Gittin 57b.
Claims
that four billion Jews were killed by the Romans in the city of
Bethar.
Gittin 58a claims that 16 million Jewish children were wrapped in
scrolls and burned alive by the Romans. (Ancient demography indicates
that there were not 16 million Jews in the entire world at that time,
much less 16 million Jewish children or four billion Jews).
A Revealing Admission
Abodah Zarah 70a. The question was asked of the rabbi whether wine
stolen in Pumbeditha might be used or if it was defiled, due to the
fact
that the thieves might have been gentiles (a gentile touching wine
would
make the wine unclean). The rabbi says not to worry, that the wine is
permissible for Jewish use because the majority of the thieves in
Pumbeditha, the place where the wine was stolen, are Jews. (Also cf.
Gemara Rosh Hashanah 25b).
Pharisaic Rituals
Erubin 21b. "Rabbi Akiba said to him, "Give me some water to wash my
hands."
"It will not suffice for drinking," the other complained, "will it
suffice for washing your hands?"
"What can I do?' the former replied, "when for neglecting the words
of
the Rabbis one deserves death? It is better that I myself should die
than that I transgress against the opinion of my colleagues." [This
is
the ritual hand washing condemned by Jesus in Matthew 15: 1-9].
Genocide Advocated by the Talmud
Minor Tractates. Soferim 15, Rule 10. This is the saying of Rabbi
Simon
ben Yohai: Tob shebe goyyim harog ("Even the best of the gentiles
should
all be killed").
This passage is from the original Hebrew of the Babylonian Talmud as
quoted by the 1907 Jewish Encyclopedia, published by Funk and
Wagnalls
and compiled by Isidore Singer, under the entry, "Gentile," (p. 617).
This original Talmud passage has been concealed in translation. The
Jewish Encyclopedia states that, "...in the various versions the
reading
has been altered, 'The best among the Egyptians' being generally
substituted." In the Soncino version: "the best of the
heathens" (Minor
Tractates, Soferim 41a-b].
Israelis annually take part in a national pilgrimage to the grave of
Simon ben Yohai, to honor this rabbi who advocated the extermination
of
non-Jews. (Jewish Press, June 9, 1989, p. 56B).
On Purim, Feb. 25, 1994, Israeli army officer Baruch Goldstein, an
orthodox Jew from Brooklyn, massacred 40 Palestinian civilians,
including children, while they knelt in prayer in a mosque. Goldstein
was a disciple of the late Brooklyn Rabbi Meir Kahane, who told CBS
News
that his teaching that Arabs are "dogs" is derived "from the Talmud."
(CBS 60 Minutes, "Kahane").
University of Jerusalem Prof. Ehud Sprinzak described Kahane and
Goldstein's philosophy: "They believe it's God's will that they
commit
violence against goyim, a Hebrew term for non-Jews." (NY Daily News,
Feb. 26, 1994, p. 5).
Rabbi Yitzhak Ginsburg declared, "We have to recognize that Jewish
blood
and the blood of a goy are not the same thing." (NY Times, June 6,
1989,
p.5).
Rabbi Yaacov Perrin said, "One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish
fingernail." (NY Daily News, Feb. 28, 1994, p.6).
Talmudic Doctrine: Non-Jews are not Human
The Talmud specifically defines all who are not Jews as non-human
animals, and specifically dehumanizes Gentiles as not being
descendants
of Adam. Here are some of the Talmud passages which relate to this
topic.
Kerithoth 6b: Uses of Oil of Anointing. "Our Rabbis have taught: He
who
pours the oil of anointing over cattle or vessels is not guilty; if
over
gentiles (goyim) or the dead, he is not guilty. The law relating to
cattle and vessels is right, for it is written: "Upon the flesh of
man
(Adam), shall it not be poured (Exodus 30:32]); and cattle and
vessels
are not man (Adam).
"Also with regard to the dead, [it is plausible] that he is exempt,
since after death one is called corpse and not a man (Adam). But why
is
one exempt in the case of gentiles (goyim); are they not in the
category
of man (Adam)? No, it is written: 'And ye my sheep, the sheep of my
pasture, are man" (Adam); [Ezekiel 34:31]: Ye are called man (Adam)
but
gentiles (goyim) are not called man (Adam)."
In the preceding passage, the rabbis are discussing the portion of
the
Mosaic law which forbids applying the holy oil to men.
The Talmud states that it is not a sin to apply the holy oil to
Gentiles, because Gentiles are not human beings (i.e. are not of
Adam).
Another example from tractate Yebamoth 61a: "It was taught: And so
did
R. Simeon ben Yohai state (61a) that the graves of gentiles (goyim)
do
not impart levitical uncleanness by an ohel [standing or bending over
a
grave], for it is said, 'And ye my sheep the sheep of my pasture, are
men (Adam), [Ezekiel 34:31]; you are called men (Adam) but the
idolaters
are not called men (Adam)."
The Old Testament Mosaic law states that touching a human corpse or
the
grave of a human imparts uncleanness to those who touch it. But the
Talmud teaches that if a Jew touches the grave of a Gentile, the Jew
is
not rendered unclean, since Gentiles are not human (not of Adam).
From Baba Mezia 114b: ""A Jewish priest was standing in a graveyard.
When asked why he was standing there in apparent violation of the
Mosaic
law, he replied that it was permissible, since the law only prohibits
Jews from coming into contact with the graves of humans (Adamites),
and
he was standing in a gentile graveyard. For it has been taught by
Rabbi
Simon ben Yohai: 'The graves of gentiles [goyim] do not defile. For
it
is written, 'And ye my flock, the flock of my pastures, are men
(Adam)'
(Ezekiel 34:31); only ye are designated men (Adam)."
Ezekiel 34:31 is the alleged Biblical proof text repeatedly cited in
the
preceding three Talmud passages. But Ezekiel 34:31 does not in fact
support the Talmudic notion that only Israelites are human. What
these
rabbinical, anti-Gentile racists and ideologues have done in
asserting
the preceding absurdities about Gentiles is distort an Old Testament
passage in order to justify their bigotry.
In Berakoth 58a the Talmud uses Ezekiel 23:20 as proof of the sub-
human
status of gentiles. It also teaches that anyone (even a Jewish man)
who
reveals this Talmudic teaching about non-Jews deserves death, since
revealing it makes Gentiles wrathful and causes the repression of
Judaism.
The Talmudic citation of this scripture from Ezekiel as a "proof-
text"
is specious, since the passage does not prove that Gentiles are
animals.
The passage from Ezekiel only says that some Egyptians had large
genital
organs and copious emissions. This does not in any way prove or even
connote that the Egyptians being referred to in the Bible were
considered animals. Once again, the Talmud has falsified the Bible by
means of distorted interpretation.
Other Talmud passages which expound on Ezekiel 23:20 in this racist
fashion are: Arakin 19b, Berakoth 25b, Niddah 45a, Shabbath 150a,
Yebamoth 98a. Moreover, the original text of Sanhedrin 37a applies
God's
approval only to the saving of Jewish lives (cf. the Hesronot Ha-
shas,
Cracow, 1894).
Moses Maimonides: Advocate of Extermination
We will now examine the post-Talmudic commentator Rambam (Moses
Maimonides). This revered "sage" taught that Christians should be
exterminated. He has the highest stature in Judaism:
"Moses Maimonides is considered the greatest codifier and philosopher
in
Jewish history. He is often affectionately referred to as the Rambam,
after the initials of his name and title, Rabenu Moshe Ben Maimon,
"Our
Rabbi, Moses son of Maimon." [Maimonides' Principles, edited by Aryeh
Kaplan, Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations of America,, p. 3].
Here is what Maimonides (Rambam) taught concerning saving people's
lives, especially concerning saving the lives of gentiles and
Christians, or even Jews who dared to deny the "divine inspiration"
of
the Talmud:
Maimonides, Mishnah Torah, (Moznaim Publishing Corporation, Brooklyn,
New York, 1990, Chapter 10, English Translation), p. 184:
"Accordingly,
if we see an idolater (gentile) being swept away or drowning in the
river, we should not help him. If we see that his life is in danger,
we
should not save him." The Hebrew text of the Feldheim 1981 edition of
Mishnah Torah states this as well.
Immediately after Maimonides' admonition that it is a duty for Jews
not
to save a drowning or perishing gentile, he informs us of the
Talmudic
duty of Jews towards Christians, and also towards Jews who deny the
Talmud. Maimonides, Mishnah Torah, (Chapter 10), p. 184:
"It is a mitzvah [religious duty], however, to eradicate Jewish
traitors, minnim, and apikorsim, and to cause them to descend to the
pit
of destruction, since they cause difficulty to the Jews and sway the
people away from God, as did Jesus of Nazareth and his students, and
Tzadok, Baithos, and their students. May the name of the wicked rot."
The Jewish publisher's commentary accompanying the preceding
statement
of Maimonides states that Jesus was an example of a min (plural:
minnim).
The commentary also states that the students of Tzadok were defined
as
those Jews who deny the truth of the Talmud and who uphold only the
written law (i.e. the Old Testament).
According to Maimonides' Principles, p. 5, Maimonides "spent twelve
years extracting every decision and law from the Talmud, and
arranging
them all into 14 systematic volumes. The work was finally completed
in
1180, and was called Mishnah Torah, or "Code of the Torah."
Maimonides taught in another part of the Mishnah Torah that gentiles
are
not human: "Man alone, and not vessels, can contract uncleanness by
carriage. ...The corpse of a gentile, however, does not convey
uncleanness by overshadowing. ...a gentile does not contract corpse
uncleanness; and if a gentile touches, carries, or overshadows a
corpse
he is as one who did not touch it.
"To what is this like? It is like a beast which touches a corpse or
overshadows it. And this applies not to corpse uncleanness only but
to
any other kind of uncleanness: neither gentiles nor cattle are
susceptible to any uncleanness." (The Code of Maimonides, vol. 10,
translated by Herbert Danby, Yale University Press, New Haven, 1954,
pp.
8-9).
Maimonides, Mishneh Torah, Hilchot Rotze'ach 2:11: "A Jew who killed
a
righteous gentile is not executed in a court of law. It says in
Exodus
21:14, 'If a man schemes against his fellow man and kills the man
deliberately, take him away from the altar and put him to death.' But
a
gentile is not considered a man, and even more so, a Jew is not
executed
for killing an unrighteous gentile."
The Schindler's List Quote
The Talmud (i.e., the Babylonian Talmud) text of Sanhedrin 37a
restricts
the duty to save life to saving only Jewish lives.
The book on Hebrew censorship, written by Jews themselves (Hesronot
Ha-shas), notes that some Talmud texts use the universalist phrase:
"Whoever destroys the life of a single human being...it is as if he
had
destroyed an entire world; and whoever preserves the life of a single
human being ...it is as if he had preserved an entire world."
However, Hesronot Ha-shas points out that these are not the authentic
words of the original Talmud.
In other words, the preceding universalist rendering is not the
authentic text of the Talmud and thus, for example, this universalist
version which Steven Spielberg in his famous movie, Schindler's List
attributed to the Talmud (and which became the motto of the movie on
posters and in advertisements), is a hoax and constitutes propaganda
intended to give a humanistic gloss to a Talmud which is, in its
essence, racist and chauvinist hate literature.
In the authentic, original Talmud text it states that "whoever
preserves
a single soul of Israel, it is as if he had preserved an entire
world"
(emphasis supplied). The authentic Talmud text sanctions only the
saving
of Jewish lives.
Jewish Deception and Dissimulation
The response of the orthodox rabbis to documentation regarding the
racism and hatred in their sacred texts is simply to brazenly lie, in
keeping with the Talmud's Baba Kamma 113a which states that Jews may
use
lies ("subterfuge") to circumvent a Gentile.
The Simon Wiesenthal Center, a multi-million dollar rabbinical
propaganda center dispatched Rabbi Daniel Landes in 1995 to deny that
the Talmud dehumanizes non-Jews. "This is utter rot," he said. His
proof? Why, his word, of course.
Lying to "circumvent a Gentile" has a long patrimony in Judaism. Take
for example the 13th century Talmud debate in Paris between Nicholas
of
Donin, a Jewish convert to Christianity, whom Hyam Maccoby admits had
"a
good knowledge of the Talmud" ( "The Jews on Trial," p. 26) and Rabbi
Yehiel. Yehiel was not under threat of death, bodily injury,
imprisonment or fine. Yet he brazenly lied during the course of the
debate.
When asked by Donin whether there were attacks on Jesus in the
Talmud,
Yehiel denied that there were any. Donin, a Hebrew and Aramaic
scholar,
knew this to be false. Hyam Maccoby, a 20th century Jewish
commentator
on the debate, defends Rabbi Yehiel's lying in this way:
"The question may be asked, however, whether Yehiel really believed
that
Jesus was not mentioned in the Talmud, or whether he put this forward
as
an ingenious ploy in the desperate situation in which he found
himself...It would certainly have been pardonable of the rabbi to
attempt some condonation in which he did not fully believe, to
prevent
such tyrannical proceedings by one religious culture against
another." (
Maccoby, "The Jews on Trial," p. 28).
This is how Jewish denial of the existence of hateful Talmud texts is
justified to this day. A fanciful word for Jewish lying is conjured
("condonation") and deemed "pardonable," while any scrutiny of Jewish
holy books by Christian investigators is characterized as a
"tyrannical
proceeding."
In 1994, Rabbi Tzvi Marx, director of Applied Education at the Shalom
Hartman Institute in Jerusalem, made a remarkable admission
concerning
how Jewish rabbis in the past have issued two sets of texts: the
authentic Talmudic texts with which they instruct their own youth in
the
Talmud schools (yeshiviot) and "censured and amended" versions which
they disseminate to gullible non-Jews for public consumption.
Rabbi Marx states that in the version of Maimonides' teachings
published
for public consumption, Maimonides is made to say that whoever kills
a
human being transgresses the law.
But, Rabbi Marx points out "...this only reflects the censured and
amended printed text, whereas the original manuscripts have it only
as
'whoever kills an Israelite."(Tikkun: A Bi-Monthly Jewish Critique
May-June, 1994).
The Jewish book, Hesronot Ha-shas ("that which is removed from the
Talmud"), is important in this regard. (Cf. William Popper, The
Censorship of Hebrew Books p. 59).
Hesronot Ha-shas was reprinted in 1989 by Sinai Publishing of Tel-
Aviv.
Hesronot Ha-shas is valuable because it lists both the original
Talmud
texts that were later changed or omitted, and the falsified texts
cited
for Gentile consumption as authentic.
Historian William Popper states: "It was not always that long
passages...were censored...but often single words alone were
omitted...Often, in these cases, another method of correction was
used
in place of omission--substitution." (Cf. William Popper, The
Censorship
of Hebrew Books pp. 58-59).
For example, the translators of the English Soncino version of the
Talmud sometimes render the Hebrew word goyim (Gentiles) under any
number of disguise words such as "heathen, Cuthean, Kushite,
Egyptian,
idolater" etc. But these are actually references to Gentiles (all
non-Jews). Footnotes for certain passages in the Soncino Talmud
translation state: "Cuthean (Samaritan) was here substituted for the
original goy..."
The heirs of the Pharisees often deny the existence of the Talmud
passages here cited, in order to brazenly claim that such passages
are
the "fabrications of anti-Semites."
In 1994, the 80 year old Lady Jane Birdwood was arrested and
prosecuted
in a criminal court in London, England for the "crime" of publishing
in
her pamphlet, The Longest Hatred, the truthful statement that the
Talmud
contains anti-Gentile and anti-Christian passages. (She was accused
of
violating the Public Order Act of 1986).
In the course of her Orwellian thought-crime trial, which was ignored
by
the U.S. media, a rabbi was called as a prosecution witness. The
rabbi
proceeded to flatly deny that the Talmud contained anti-Gentile or
anti-Christian passages and on the basis of the rabbi's "prestige,"
this
elderly and ailing woman was sentenced to three months in jail and
fined
the equivalent of $1,000.
"Judeo-Christian" Response to the Talmud
Neither the modern popes or the modern heads of Protestantism, have
ever
insisted that the rabbis of Judaism repudiate or condemn the racism
in
the Talmud or the murderous hate for Christians and gentiles
expressed
within it. On the contrary, the heads of Churchianity have urged the
followers of Christ to obey, honor and support the followers of the
Talmud. Therefore, it should be obvious that these Catholic and
Protestant leaders are the worst betrayers of Jesus Christ on earth
today. (Cf. Matthew 23:13-15; I Thess. 2:14-16; Titus 1:14; Luke
3:8-9;
Rev. 3:9).
Non-Jews are "Supernal Refuse"
Moreover, not only Christians but non-Christians of all races are
regarded as "supernal refuse" (garbage) by Talmud teachers such as
the
founder of Habad-Lubavitch, Rabbi Shneur Zalman.
This was analyzed in the Jewish magazine, New Republic: "...there are
some powerful ironies in Habad's new messianic universalism, in its
mission to the gentiles; and surely the most unpleasant of them
concerns
Habad's otherwise undisguised and even racial contempt for the goyim.
"...medieval Jewish theologians--most notably the poet and
philosopher
Judah Ha-Levi in twelfth-century Spain and the mystic Judah Loewe in
sixteenth-century Prague--sought to define the Jewish distinction
racially rather than spiritually...this...view, according to which
there
is something innately superior about the Jews, was rehabilitated in
its
most extreme form by Shneur Zalman of Lyady. The founder of
Lubavitcher
Hasidism taught that there is a difference of essence between the
souls
of Jews and the souls of gentiles, that only in the Jewish soul does
there reside a spark of divine vitality.
"As for the goyim...Zalman's attitude (was): 'Gentile souls are of a
completely different and inferior order. They are totally evil, with
no
redeeming qualities whatsoever.'
"Consequently, references to gentiles in Rabbi Shneur Zalman's
teachings
are invariably invidious. Their (non-Jews) material abundance derives
from supernal refuse. Indeed, they themselves derive from refuse,
which
is why they are more numerous than the Jews, as the pieces of chaff
outnumber the kernels...All Jews were innately good, all gentiles
innately evil.
"...Moreover, this characterization of gentiles as being inherently
evil, as being spiritually as well as biologically inferior to Jews,
has
not in any way been revised in later Habad writing." --The New
Republic,
May 4, 1992. Also cf. Roman A. Foxbrunner, Habad: The Hasidism of
Shneur
Zalman of Lyady (Northvale, New Jersey, Jason Aronson, Inc., 1993)
pp.
108-109.
U.S. Government Lays Groundwork for Talmudic Courts
"Our" government under Presidents Reagan, Bush and Clinton, has
provided, under the euphemism of education (for example, House Joint
Resolution 173 and Public Law 102-14), a groundwork for the
establishment of Talmudic "courts of justice" to be administered by
disciples of Shneur Zalman's Chabad successor, Rabbi Menachem Mendel
Schneerson.
Maimonides ruled that it is a Jewish court -- or a court appointed by
Jewish authority --that enforces obedience and passes judgment on
Gentiles, as well as promulgating legislation by court order for that
purpose. Maimonides further decreed that any non-Jewish nation "not
subject to our jurisdiction" (tahaht yadeinu) will be the target of
Jewish holy war. (Cf. Hilkhot Melakhim 8:9-10; 10:11. Also cf. Gerald
J.
Blidstein, "Holy War in Maimonidean Law," in Perspectives on
Maimonides
[Oxford, England: Oxford Univ. Press, 1991].
These courts are to be convened allegedly under the "Noahide Laws"
(proscriptions against idolatry supposedly based on the covenant with
Noah). The U.S. presidents and Congress urged the adoption of the
"Noahide" Laws as interpreted by Chabad-Lubavitch Grand Rabbi
Schneerson.
Prof. Easterly of the Southern University Law Center, a Jewish legal
expert, has compared this Public law 102-14 to the "first rays of
dawn"
which "evidence the rising of a still unseen sun."
The Jewish Encyclopedia envisages a Noahide regime as a possible
world
order immediately preceding the universal reign of the Talmud.
It has to be understood that we are not dealing with the Noah of the
Bible when the religion of Judaism refers to "Noahide law," but the
Noahide law as understood and interpreted by the absolute system of
falsification that constitutes the Talmud.
Under the Talmud's counterfeit Noahide Laws, the worship of Jesus is
forbidden under penalty of death, since such worship of Christ is
condemned by Judaism as idolatry. Meanwhile various forms of incest
are
permitted under the Talmudic understanding of the Noahide code.
(Enziklopediya Talmudit, note 1, pp. 351-352).
Furthermore, all non-Jews would have the legal status of ger toshav
("resident alien," cf. Alan Unterman, Dictionary of Jewish Lore and
Legend [London: Thames and Hudson, 1991], p. 148), even in their own
land; as for example in occupied Palestine where newly arrived
Khazars
from Russia have an automatic right to housing and citizenship, while
two million Palestinian refugees who either fled or were expelled by
the
Israelis, are forbidden the right of return.
Resident alien status has been clearly delineated in scholarly
articles
in leading Jewish publications. For example, Hebrew University
Professor
Mordechai Nisan, basing his exposition on Maimonides, stated that a
non-Jew permitted to reside in a land ruled by Jewish law "must
accept
paying a tax and suffering the humiliation of servitude."
If Gentiles refuse to live a life of inferiority, then this signals
their rebellion and the unavoidable necessity of Jewish warfare
against
their very presence. [Cf. Mordechai Nisan, Kivunim (official
publication
of the World Zionist Organization), August, 1984, pp. 151-156].
At a symposium ("Is Autonomy for Resident Aliens Feasible?")
organized
by Israeli Minister of Education Shulamit Aloni, the Israeli Chief
Rabbi
Shlomo Goren repeated the Talmudic teaching on resident aliens: that
Judaism forbids "granting any national rights" to them. He ruled that
such "Autonomy is tantamount to a denial of the Jewish
religion." (Nadav
Shraggai, Ha'aretz, Oct. 14, 1992).
American taxpayers' subsidy of the so-called "U.S. Holocaust Museum"
in
Washington, D.C., is yet another indicator of the gradual
establishment
of a Jewish state religion in the U.S. This "Holocaust museum"
excludes
any reference to holocausts perpetrated by Jewish Communists against
Christians in Russia and Eastern Europe, from 1917 onward.
The focus of the museum is almost entirely on Jewish suffering.
Holocausts perpetrated by Israelis against Arabs in Lebanon and
Palestine since 1948 are nowhere to be found in the exhibits of the
U.S.
"Holocaust Museum," which functions more like a synagogue than a
repository of objective historical information.
It is through the rapid emergence of this ostensibly secular but
all-pervasive "Holocaustianity" -- whereby the religion of Judaism is
gaining enormous power and influence as mankind's supreme ethos and
the
creed of God's Holy People.
Jewish Law Requires Christians be Executed
Israeli "Torah scholars" have ruled that:
"The Torah maintains that the righteous of all nations have a place
in
the World to Come. But not all religious Gentiles earn eternal life
by
virtue of observing their religion...And while the Christians do
generally accept the Hebrew Bible as truly from God, many of them
(those
who accept the so-called divinity of Jesus) are idolaters according
to
the Torah, punishable by death, and certainly will not enjoy the
World
to Come."
--Israeli Mechon-Mamre website, June 26, 2000; 12 Hayyim Vital St.,
Jerusalem, Occupied Palestine. ("Mechon Mamre is a small group of
Torah
scholars in Israel...").
[Note: we have printed and preserved in our files a hard copy of this
statement from the Israeli "Mechon-Mamre Torah Scholars," as it
appeared
on their website at http://www.mechon-mamre.org/jewfaq/gentiles.htm
on
June 26, 2000, in the event that denials are later issued and the
statement itself suppressed].
Jewish Superstitions
It is not for nothing that the authoritative edition of the Talmud is
known as the Babylonian Talmud. As Christians misled by their
Judaizing
preachers and popes are increasingly consulting Jewish rabbinical
sources for a "pure" understanding of the Old Testament, they are
unknowingly consulting the occult.
Judaism is the religion of the Pharisees and the patrimony of
Babylon,
from whence the Talmudic and Kabbalistic traditions of Judaism
ultimately derive. Orthodox Judaism's other sacred book, the
Kabbalah,
is filled with astrological teachings, fortune-telling, gematria,
necromancy and demonology.
The photograph on the cover of this publication's hard copy version
shows an orthodox Jew performing a ritual to transfer his sins to the
chicken he is waving over his head. This is pernicious superstition.
Furthermore, the Israeli "Star of David," is actually nothing of the
kind, but rather an occult hexagram, a yantra of the androgyne, which
became associated with the Khazars in 14th century Bohemia. (The
misnamed "state of Israel" was founded in 1948 in an alliance between
Jewish Communists and atheistic Zionists, with crucial U.N.
recognition
provided by Soviet Communist dictator Joseph Stalin).
Christians might find it eye-opening to visit a Hasidic Jewish area
during "Purim" and observe the grotesque, Halloween-like cavorting.
Though the Purim festival uses the Book of Esther as its supposed
proof-text, in practice the Jewish celebration of Purim is little
more
than a Bacchanal (cf. "Superstitions said legacy from Jewish
ancestors,"
Canadian Jewish News, Nov. 16, 1989, p. 58).
Orthodox rabbis place curses, cast spells and imagine they have
powers
greater than God, derived from their study of the Sefer Yezriah, (a
book
of Kabbalistic magic). Christians are trafficking in Babylonian
paganism
when they defer to the rabbis of Judaism.
Sodomy in the synagogue
From a report published in the Hebrew language Israeli newspaper
Ha'aretz
"...for many years, (Talmud scribe) Yaakov Yitzhak Brizel...sodomized
ultra-Orthodox boys. The greatest rabbis knew - and did nothing...
"At the age of 11, Moisheleh, the strongest fellow in the talmud
torah
(school for ultra-Orthodox boys), went up to Shaiya Brizel and said
to
him: 'Kid, I want you know that your father is not the holy man you
think he is. He is a homo.' ...Brizel was a scion of the Brizel
family,
which founded ...the mysterious organization that imposes moral order
on
the ultra-Orthodox ghetto...
"Had the father, Yaakov Yitzhak Brizel ...contented himself with
homosexual relations with adults, it is reasonable to suppose that we
would never have heard his son's story.
"However, in his book, The Silence of the Ultra-Orthodox, published a
few weeks ago, the son claims that for decades his
father ...sodomized
yeshiva students. He committed the act in empty synagogues during the
hours between prayers and in other places.
"The greatest of the ultra-Orthodox rabbis...like Rabbi Landau and
the
halachic sage Shmuel Halevi Hausner of Bnei Brak, knew and kept
silent.
The father was a Hasid heart and soul, and went to a number of
rebbes.... the twin brother of the rebbe from Rehovot, the Rebbe of
Kretschnif in Kiryat Gat, was happy to accept the father among his
followers. Ultimately, claims Brizel, it was not easy for the Rebbe
from
Kiryat Gat to be picky when he could win such a respected adherent.
"...The proud father with the look of an honored rebbe, who observed
all
the commandments from the slightest to the most important, used to
pray
at a certain yeshiva with the young boys. There, claims Shaiya
Brizel,
he hunted his victims. When the head of the yeshiva discovered the
true
reason that the respected Torah scribe was praying fervently at his
yeshiva, he did not contact the police...
"Before the publication of his book, Shaiya Brizel met with the
yeshiva
head. 'You are right that we covered up for him,' admitted the man.
'I
and a few other rabbis...I was busy trying to calm things down and
hushing up the affair so that it would not get publicized.'
"(The son) published the book using real names. His entire family and
almost all the rabbis appear under their own names. Only the names of
some of the localities and the head of the yeshiva are disguised. To
protect himself from a legal point of view, Brizel held a series of
conversations with members of his family and rabbis, in which he
demanded explanations of why they had covered up for his father's
misbehavior. He secretly recorded all these conversations, even with
his
mother.
"If I had written without the names it would have been fiction and
this
certainly did not suit me," he explained. 'I wanted things to change,
for ultra-Orthodox society to know that it can attempt to hide things
and be hidden, but even if it takes 30 years, a Golem will always
rise
up against its creator and reveal everything. In this case, I was the
Golem.'
"When Rachel Brizel, the daughter of a good Bnei Brak family, married
an
arranged match from the glorious Brizel family, she had no idea that
she
was destroying her own life. After six months, she caught her husband
having sex with another man. In that case, at least it was with an
adult.
"Shaiya Brizel relates that some of the boys with whom his father had
relations sent letters of complaint to their own fathers; in the
discreet ultra-Orthodox society they had no one else to whom they
could
complain.
Shaiya Brizel: author of a book telling of sodomy in the synagogue
"When she read these letters, my mother went out of her mind,' writes
Brizel. 'Every such letter made her want to demand a divorce. Again
and
again batteries of mediators, the Brizel rabbis, would show up, whose
job it was to calm her down so that, heaven forbid, she would not
destroy the good name of the Brizel family.
"They could live with the fact that one of their own had raped
minors,
but for them divorce was an impossible situation.'
"...Twice, once during prayers in a synagogue, and once during a
Gemara
(Talmud) study hour at Rabbi Eliezer Shach's Ponevezh Yeshiva,
ultra-Orthodox men who were strangers to him touched his sexual
organ,
presumably on the assumption that he followed in his father's
footsteps.
The first time, he made a fuss, only to discover that the only thing
that interested the people there was to hush the whole thing up. The
second time, he made do with a whispered warning to the man.
"Shaiya Brizel is now 36 and the father of three; he works as an
accountant.
"His father, 65, was forced to leave home several years ago and
return
to his elderly parents' apartment. Shaiya wrote this book after a
suicide attempt in June.
'For all those years I was half dead. For the past five years I have
been getting psychological treatment. During my talks with the
psychologist I decided that I was going to spew out all this ugliness
in
the form of a book.'
"He took into account that there would be violent reactions to the
book...which only came out a few weeks ago...Brizel suffers from a
serious heart defect, which could cause his death. As a way of
protecting himself, he has deposited a letter with three lawyers that
contains serious allegations about the Eda Haredit, and he has
informed
the relevant people.
"Recently, he has moved to a new apartment, and he lives in the
National
Religious sector of a mixed community of National Religious and
ultra-Orthodox families. Naturally, he started praying at the only
Hasidic synagogue in the settlement. After the book came out,
associates
of the local rebbe (rabbi) informed him that he was persona non
grata.
"Ironically, this same rebbe had come to the area after being
compelled
to leave several other communities on suspicion of having sodomized
his
pupils. In ultra-Orthodox society, revealing that acts of sodomy have
been committed is a far graver offense than committing them.
"On the day the book was published, Brizel met with the head of the
Hachemei Lublin Yeshiva, Rabbi Avraham Vazner. 'He told me that
publishing the book was a million times worse than what my father had
done...'
"Ha'aretz has been unable to obtain a response from Rabbi Yaakov
Yitzhak
Brizel. At his parents' home, a woman replied: "We don't care. Shaiya
is
a liar and there is nothing more to be said."
"Ha'aretz also requested the Brizels' response through the Eda
Haredit
activist Yehuda Meshi- Zahav. By the time the article went to press,
there was no response through this channel either.
"Several weeks ago the father responded to the women's magazine
La'isha,
saying that he would sue the publishers, which has not yet happened.
It
is unlikely that it will happen.
"Shaiya Brizel was ready to put off publication of the book, on
condition that the family sue him in a rabbinical court, in which the
affair would be aired. He has said that no one in the family was
prepared to take up the challenge.
"In the conversation with La'isha, the father said that he was indeed
a
homosexual, 'But I have had treatment and today I am no longer like
that. All this is behind me.'
"In reply to a question as to whether he had sexual relations with
minors, he replied: 'Perhaps I will talk about that some other time.'
He
accused his son Shaiya of being 'the only one who is after me. He has
destroyed my life...He wrote this only for the money. He wanted money
from me...Because of him I separated from my wife.'
"Shaiya's sister, Rivka Hubert, spoke with great anger to the La'isha
reporter about the fact that her brother had revealed the names of
the
persons involved, and declared: 'We deny everything it says in the
book."