They received the following Nobel Prizes:
Literature
1988 - Najib Mahfooz.
Peace:
1978 - Mohamed Anwar El-Sadat
1994 - Yaser Arafat
Physics:
1990 - Elias James Corey
1999 - Ahmed Zewail
Medicine:
1960 - Peter Brian Medawar
1998 - Ferid Mourad
The Global Jewish population is aproximately 14,000,000 or about 0.02%
of the world population.
They received the following Nobel Prizes:
Literature:
1910 - Paul Heyse
1927 - Henri Bergson
1958 - Boris Pasternak
1966 - Shmuel Yosef Agnon
1966 - Nelly Sachs
1976 - Saul Bellow
1978 - Isaac Bashevis Singer
1981 - Elias Canetti
1987 - Joseph Brodsky
1991 - Nadine Gordimer World
Peace:
1911 - Alfred Fried
1911 - Tobias Michael Carel Asser
1968 - Rene Cassin
1973 - Henry Kissinger
1978 - Menachem Begin
1986 - Elie Wiesel
1994 - Shimon Peres
1994 - Yitzhak Rabin
Chemistry:
1905 - Adolph Von Baeyer
1906 - Henri Moissan
1910 - Otto Wallach
1915 - Richard Willstaetter
1918 - Fritz Haber
1943 - George Charles de Hevesy
1961 - Melvin Calvin
1962 - Max Ferdinand Perutz
1972 - William Howard Stein
1977 - Ilya Prigogine
1979 - Herbert Charle s Brown
1980 - Paul Berg
1980 - Walter Gilbert
1981 - Roald Hoffmann
1982 - Aaron Klug
1985 - Albert A. Hauptman
1985 - Jerome Karle
1986 - Dudley R. Herschbach
1988 - Robert Huber
1989 - Sidney Altman
1992 - Rudolph Marcus
2000 - Alan J. Heeger
Economics:
1970 - Paul Anthony Samuelson
1971 - Simon Kuznets
1972 - Kenneth Joseph Arrow
1975 - Leonid Kantorovich
1976 - Milton Friedman
1978 - Herbert A. Simon
1980 - Lawrence Robert Klein
1985 - Franco Modigliani
1987 - Robert M. Solow
1990 - Harry Markowitz
1990 - Merton Miller
1992 - Gary Becker
1993 - Robert Fogel
2005 - Robert J. Aumann
Medicine:
1908 - Elie Metchnikoff
1908 - Paul Erlich
1914 - Robert Barany
1922 - Otto Meyerhof
1930 - Karl Landsteiner
1931 - Otto Warburg
1936 - Otto Loewi
1944 - Joseph Erlanger
1944 - Herbert Spencer Gasser
1945 - Ernst Boris Chain
1946 - Hermann Joseph Muller
1950 - Tadeus Reichstein
1952 - Selman Abraham Waksman
1953 - Hans Krebs
1953 - Fritz Albert Lipmann
1958 - Joshua Lederberg
1959 - Arthur Kornberg
1964 - Konrad Bloch
1965 - Francois Jacob
1965 - Andre Lwoff
1967 - George Wald
1968 - Marshall W. Nirenberg
1969 - Salvador Luria
1970 - Julius Axelrod
1970 - Sir Bernard Katz
1972 - Gerald Maurice Edelman
1975 - Howard Martin Temin
1976 - Baruch S. Blumberg
1977 - Roselyn Sussman Yalow
1978 - Daniel Nathans
1980 - Baruj Benacerraf
1984 - Cesar Milstein
1985 - Michael Stuart Brown
1985 - Joseph L. Goldstein
1986 - Stanley Cohen [& Rita Levi-Montalcini]
1988 - Gertrude Elion
1989 - Harold Varmus
1991 - Erwin Neher
1991 - Bert Sakmann
1993 - Richard J. Roberts
1993 - Phillip Sharp
1994 - Alfred Gilman
1995 - Edward B. Lewis
Physics:
1907 - Albert Abraham Michelson
1908 - Gabriel Lippmann
1921 - Albert Einstein
1922 - Niels Bohr
1925 - James Franck
1925 - Gustav Hertz
1943 - Gustav Stern
1944 - Isidor Issac Rabi
1952 - Felix Bloch
1954 - Max Born
1958 - Igor Tamm
1959 - Emilio Segre
1960 - Donald A. Glaser
1961 - Robert Hofstadter
1962 - Lev Davidovich Landau
1965 - Richard Phillips Feynman
1965 - Julian Schwinger
1969 - Murray Gell-Mann
1971 - Dennis Gabor
1973 - Brian David Josephson
1975 - Benjamin Mottleson
1976 - Burton Richter
1978 - Arno Allan Penzias
1978 - Peter L Kapitza
1979 - Stephen Weinberg
1979 - Sheldon Glashow
1988 - Leon Lederman
1988 - Melvin Schwartz
1988 - Jack Steinberger
1990 - Jerome Friedman
1995 - Martin Perl
The Jews are not demonstrating with their dead on the streets, yelling
and chanting and asking for revenge. The Jews are not promoting the
brain washing of their children in military
training camps, teaching them how to blow themselves up and cause
maximum deaths of Jews and other non-Muslims. The Jews don't hijack
planes, nor kill athletes at the Olympics. The Jews don't traffic
slaves, nor have leaders calling for Jihad and death to all the
Infidels. The Jews don't have the economic strength of oil nor the
possibilities to force the world's media to see "their side" of the
question. Perhaps if the world's Muslims could invest more in normal
education and less in blaming the Jews for all their problems, we could
all live in a better world.
Great post. Bravo!
the kind of post that irks all muslims because it shows them for who
they are: savage, backward, ignorant creatures, nothing more.
Cheers
Ariel
Perhaps if you stopped trying to blame Arabs for your own crimes, ended
the illegal occupation of the West Bank and started abiding by
International laws, treaties and the United Nations, you might some day
earn the respect you feel you deserve, but right now the media has
properly identified you AS the problem.
Oh, and who cares about Nobel prizes, what about before 1900? So what
did Jews do over the last 2000 years while Arabs, Christians and Hindus
were building their great societies? Answer: Your people didn't do
jack squat now did they except to sponge off other Christian and Arab
societies were you were allowed to live, so while I understand your
feelings of inferiority and can see why you feel the need to boast
about Nobel prizes, remember that even Yasser Arafat received one for
peace.
jealuous arent ya? classic nazi envy for the jews. sorry, but we're
just smarter than your ilk teddy.
Cheers
Ariel
Now repeat this over and over again until you start feeling better
about yourself Arie:
I'm good enough, I'm Smart enough and dog gone it, people like me.
<LOL>
Do you have any evidence to substantiate the shoah industry's version of the
holocaust.
>
Einstein? That plagiarist cunt.
The whole world doesn't recognise him as a genius. He totally fucked up when
he totally ignored quantum physics. No matter how hard he tried, he just
couldn't get his theory of "everything" to stick.
He has also been accused of thieveing significant amounts of work, published
under his name in 1905. Get used to it. The scientific world is a little
more objective about plagiarism than you yid cunts.
>
>leaves me wondering why the jews have failed to
> expand at a grater rate, indeed it shows a weakness in their society,
Quite a leap of "logic", there....
> they are so arrogant that the get thrown out again and again 2900 years
> endless inability to exist in peace with their neighbours, endless
> conflict blamed on other nasty people
Reminds me of those who blame children in school for being picked on
because the kids should "just ignore it..."
Susan
Einstein was an asshole with a bad haircut.
You mean like when Baby Cohen and your other half-jew brat get picked
on in jew school because their mum's a shitske?
>Suzy
Einstein has been stealing his ex wife's ideas for half a century, that is
known to all scientists in the world and several books have been written
about Mileva's scientific mathematical theorems which have been stolen by
Einstein!
Should have, but didn't. There weren't two million so-called
"Palestinians"to kill in 1948.
The ENTIRE Arab population of so-called "Palestine" was 1.4 million at
the most then.
TODAY, after breeding like rats for nearly sixty years, the quantitiy
of this vermin now exceeds
8 million world wide. Still, even so, the JEwish population worldwide
still outnumbers them 2 to 1 even now, and so at least 2/3rds of
Palestine is rightfully Jewish on that fact alone!
And, of course, by "Palestine" in include northern Jordan because it
was part of Palestina (as defined by the Romans) until 1922. Only from
1922 onwards was Transjordan considered a separate geographical and
political unit. But even if one takes the entire Arab population of
"Palestine" AND JOrdan, the worldwide Jewish population, even today
after holocausts and all,
still outnumbers the worldwide population of Palestinians and
Jordanians combined.
THEY
> HAVE NO RIGHT TO HAVE A COUNTRY EXCEPT SIX FEET UNDER!<
And Muslims have no right to nuclear weapons except the ones exploding
over their heads.
Muhammad was the Muslim Einstein. He figured out how to make and market
a false religion using stolen Jewish money and scripture, and using
both to finance and exhort his now religously zealous hordes to loot
the world in the name of Allah.
>
>serwad wrote:
>> THEY HAVE MURDERED 100 MILLI8ON RUSSIANS AND 2 MILLION PALESTINIANS. <
>
>Should have, but didn't. There weren't two million so-called
>"Palestinians"to kill in 1948.
>The ENTIRE Arab population of so-called "Palestine" was 1.4 million at
>the most then.
>TODAY, after breeding like rats for nearly sixty years, the quantitiy
>of this vermin now exceeds
>8 million world wide.
That's exactly the sort of language the Nazis used against the jews.
Plus ça change...
<b'rissed>
Einstein was a liberal German Jew, like Herzl (actually an Austrian
Jew), whose father even had an electrical factory in Germany. Like the
majority of German Jews, mostly thought that after centuries of life
in Germany they should think of themselves as Germans first. OF
course, Hitler proved all such ideas illusory. Nonetheless, Einstein
was offered the presidency of the new State of Israel in the late '40s,
but politely declined. But the reason whyEinstein found himself in
America was because Hitler's Germany disowned him and essentially drove
him out.
As my mother used to tell me, often enough, it doesn't really matter
what YOU think you are, but
rather, those amongst whom you live will TELL YOU who you really are
in any case. And my mother looked more "aryan" (and beautiful) than
Hitler's best wet dream!
Anyhow, there is no "Jewish faith." There is a Jewish nation-in-exile,
and the traditional religion of that tribe is called "Judaism." It's
like the traditional religion of the Navajos might be called
"Navahoism." It's NOT a "universal" religion, and to become a Jew is to
be taken in as member of a tribe, and the underlying religious basis is
tribal, not universal. You are not baptized and thereby become a Jew.
You do not say a simple prayer and thereby become a Jew.
To become a Jew you have to satisfy the rabbis that you are sincere and
unwavering in your desire to be a member of the tribe, and that you
will fulfill all of the religious requirements that the tribal religion
demands. To be a Jew is like being cut off from your original tree,
and then being grafted onto a different tree to make a different
fruit.
However, if you are born of a Jewish mother, and become circumcized,
you are a Jew.Perios. No "religious test" can be put on you, though
theoretically you can be thrown out for blasphemy as was Spinoza. But
short of cursing and denying God's existence in the center of the
synagogue on Yom Kippur, that doesn't happen. However, getting baptized
or otherwise officially changing to a different faith puts you out of
the Jewish tribe.
Well, we learn something from our harsh taskmasters. And our prophet
Samuel warned us not to let Amalek live. If someone is persistent in
coming to murder you, you are obligated to nail them first, according
to OUR reading of OUR "Old" Testament. The "New" Testament was more
"loving" and "merciful" because the barbarian goyim, for whom murdering
was as natural as brushing teeth today, needed a different slant. Jews,
naturally compromising and docile, needed more martial injuctions.
And the sexual problems women suffer as a result don't manifest
themselves until much later in life!
> No "religious test" can be put on you, though
>theoretically you can be thrown out for blasphemy as was Spinoza. But
>short of cursing and denying God's existence in the center of the
>synagogue on Yom Kippur, that doesn't happen. However, getting baptized
>or otherwise officially changing to a different faith puts you out of
>the Jewish tribe.
Not really. Once a jew always a jew. There is no escape.
>
>The Re'evd wrote:
>> On 23 Nov 2005 05:29:33 -0800, "jgarbuz" <jga...@netzero.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >serwad wrote:
>> >> THEY HAVE MURDERED 100 MILLI8ON RUSSIANS AND 2 MILLION PALESTINIANS. <
>> >
>> >Should have, but didn't. There weren't two million so-called
>> >"Palestinians"to kill in 1948.
>> >The ENTIRE Arab population of so-called "Palestine" was 1.4 million at
>> >the most then.
>> >TODAY, after breeding like rats for nearly sixty years, the quantitiy
>> >of this vermin now exceeds
>> >8 million world wide.
>>
>
>> That's exactly the sort of language the Nazis used against the jews.
>> Plus =E7a change...<
>
>Well, we learn something from our harsh taskmasters. And our prophet
>Samuel warned us not to let Amalek live. If someone is persistent in
>coming to murder you, you are obligated to nail them first, according
>to OUR reading of OUR "Old" Testament. The "New" Testament was more
>"loving" and "merciful" because the barbarian goyim, for whom murdering
>was as natural as brushing teeth today, needed a different slant. Jews,
>naturally compromising and docile, needed more martial injuctions.
And this justifies it?
Now, Alex Seredin. There you go again. Genocide now. Is that nice thing
to say on the eve of Thankgiving, coming as it does from a man who runs
a shop in an area with a large Jewish population?
Don't you feel that people will hold it against you and not want to buy
seashells and so forth from your shop -- Peter Pan Gifts at 1731 N.
Federal Highway, Delray Beach, Florida (561-276-6568)? What a shame,
after the nice writeup you got in that South Flordia website. Or send
Christmas, Hannukah or Ramadan cards to you at your beautiful home, at
2107 13th Street Southwest, Delray Beach, Florida 33445?
You know, in response to Susan in another thread -- she said that you
can't be currently married because your Jewish wife left you -- I
pointed out that no, you are indeed currently married, to Mona A.
Wadoud.
Speaking of Mona, why don't you follow her lead and learn a bit of
tolerance and moderation? Take a look at the very nice note that she
posted at
http://www.haneen.com.eg/reactions/attack_condolencebook1.html
Mona (pete...@powersite.net) offered condolences for a terrorist
incident in Egypt. (Note the Peter Pan email address -- an alternate
contact for Alex, if you want to send him holiday
greetings!)
In the other thread I posted Mona's comments, and I will do so here
too:
I would like to express my condolences to the families of the innocent
victims who were mercilessly killed by the terrorists in Egypt. I hope
and pray that they get their punishment from God Almighty soon. They
hide behind Islam which has nothing to do with it. However, that
exposes them and shows the people what their true nature and real face
are. There are lots of crimes in the world that are being committed in
the name of religions, while no religion condones acts of that nature.
I would also like to urge the tourists who have been planning to go to
Egypt to go ahead with their plans because by cancelling their trips
they would be playing into the hands of those cowards. We should not
give up in our fight against terrorism wherever it is. Mona
Perfectly lovely comments. Aren't you ashamed of yourself, Alex? Does
wifey know the kind of filth you spread over the Internet? I'll bet she
doesn't.
Now, be a nice old man and take a dip in the ocean. Don't go in too
far!
Yitz
Perhaps you can provide some studies that demonstrate how converting to
one primitive religion over another makes one smarter . Since you
claim to be so smart, that should take you no time at all right? <LOL>
Ask someone who knows. If your mother's mother's mother's mother's
mother, back as many generations as you like, was Jewish, then you're
Jewish. If at any point in your matrilineal line you find a woman who
is not Jewish and did not convert according to God's laws (Torah law),
you are not Jewish.
You can convert in, but you cannot convert out.
Lisa
I thought that ended after ten generations following conversion to
another religion.
Deborah
> yes SERWAD, HOW DARE YOU SAY ANY THING UNKIND ABOUT THE JEWS
Yeah, Alex - you should leave the lies to this screaming idiot; he's after
your crown, it seems.
Susan
Do you have any source for that? "A Jew who sins is still a Jew".
Now, in practical terms, if it's that far back, odds are you'll never
find it. And there's an issue of chazaka, or legal presumption. For
example, I knew my mother's maternal grandmother when I was growing up,
and to the best of my knowledge, she was definitely Jewish. But do I
know that for a fact? How could I?
Look, Scarlett Johanssen, Lisa Bonet and Jennifer Connelly are all
Jewish, because their mothers were. Will their descendents identify as
Jewish? Unlikely. On the other hand, Fran Drescher, Winona Ryder and
Adam Goldberg are not Jewish, because their mothers were not (even
though their fathers were). Will their children identify as Jewish?
Happily, probably not. But what if they did? Would that make them
Jewish? No, it wouldn't.
Lisa
They've been wonderful students of Nazi methodology.
> Plus ça change...
plus la meme chose.
Of course you could know, you could have held a candle while your granny was
screwed and obtained the DNA of the screwer!
The rev, in spite of his illness, gets it right every so often.
>
> <b'rissed>
Wow. Was that fun for you? I'm just trying to understand what you get
out of saying shit like that. It's like calling someone a poopy-head.
How old are you?
Lisa
>"Not really. Once a jew always a jew. There is no escape"
>Re'evd ,
>Purely out of interest - in your view,of course - does this apply if at
>some time in the past you had a Jew in your family tree, and, if so,for how
>many generations back does this trait apply for..?
It all depends, of course, on who else is in the family tree.
If one parent is a Gentile, you'd be half-jewish. If three
grandparents are Gentiles, you'd be a quarter-jewish.
The erroneous concept of jewishness passing down through the mother is
only something (some) jews believe in.
So if someone 'converts' in order to marry a jew (which seems to be
the motive in a lot of 'conversions', regardless of what is said), and
things go pear-shaped, there's no going back. How odd.
Of course, the Roman Catholic church doesn't recognise the
'conversion' of any of its adherents to another faith. Such people
are considered lapse Catholics.
>
>The Re'evd wrote:
>> On 23 Nov 2005 05:29:33 -0800, "jgarbuz" <jga...@netzero.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >serwad wrote:
>> >> THEY HAVE MURDERED 100 MILLI8ON RUSSIANS AND 2 MILLION PALESTINIANS. <
>> >
>> >Should have, but didn't. There weren't two million so-called
>> >"Palestinians"to kill in 1948.
>> >The ENTIRE Arab population of so-called "Palestine" was 1.4 million at
>> >the most then.
>> >TODAY, after breeding like rats for nearly sixty years, the quantitiy
>> >of this vermin now exceeds
>> >8 million world wide.
>>
>> That's exactly the sort of language the Nazis used against the jews.
>> Plus =E7a change...
>
>The rev, in spite of his illness, gets it right every so often.
I *always* get it right!
Regardless of what Suzie and likeminded "thinkers" may say or think,
baptism or otherwise
OFFICIALLY going over to a different faith puts you out of the Jewish
tribe. Now, there are many who disagree, but you can't be a Christian
Jew or a Muslim Jew or a Hindu Jew. The religious tenets of the tribe
are inherent in its identity and existence. If the majority of Jews
became Hindus, and worshipped Krishna, could they still be Jews? You
can be an Indian Jew, but you cannot be a Hindu Jew.
And, you are a Jew ONLY if your MOTHER was a Jew the moment you were
born, OR, if you have been accepted by the rabbis after a long period
of undergoing a strenuous "conversion," or rather, becoming conversant
in the Jewish tribal law and lore, and determination that your desire
to be part of the tribe is genuine and not for ulterior motives. It's
easier to become a US Marine than to become a Jew by orthodox
conversion.
It does NOT matter what your grandmother or grandfather, or whomever
came before you was or may have been. Again, you are ONLY a Jew ONLY if
your MOTHER was a Jew according to the rabbis. To get married in ISrael
by the rabbinate, you have to have PROOF
that your mother was a Jew, and that you are not already married. When
I got married, because my mother was not in Israel, and even though she
was a Holocaust survivor, I had to have first my rabbinical divorce
papers proving the end of my first marriage, and evidence that my
mother was a Jew. Such evidence may be a note from another orthodox
rabbi who knew her, or of her well enough to testifiy for her as being
a Jew, or, in the case of her death, either documentary or at least
personal witnesses of good standing who could testify to the fact, etc.
My word meant nothing. You can swear up and down on the bible that you
are a Jew, and it means nothing to the orthodox rabbinate. You have to
have PROOF! This is the way it has been for at least 1,000 years or
more. Racial theories mean nothing in Judaism. You can't be a half-Jew
or a quarter Jew, etc. Those are caucasian, Germanic racial ideas. Such
ideas have nohing to do with Judaism. Your father could have been
Hitler, but if you mother was a Jew when you were born, you are a Jew.
Your father could have been Moses, but if your mother was not a JEw,
you are not a Jew. YOu are either a Jew, or Not. THere are no "mister
in-betweens" in Jewish Law. Germanic "Nuremberg laws" do not apply in
Halacha. The only laws that define a Jew by Jewish law is having a
Jewish mother, or getting your "citizenship" in the Jewish tribe by the
drawn out, tedious rabbinical conversion. PERIOD!
Of course, that's quite all right. (It's just the illness talking.)
It doesn't "go back" to anything. If the rabbis testify that your
mother was a Jew when you were born, then you are a Jew. When your
mother was born, if the rabbis then could testify that her mother was a
jew, then she was a Jew too. When your grand mother was born, if the
rabbis then could testify that her mother was a Jew when she was born,
the she was a Jew. When your great grandmother was born, etc. You get
the idea. Every generation of JEws has to have evidence accepted by the
rabbis that their mothers were Jews to be accepted as being Jews.
That is how the link in the chain is verified, link by link through
every generation.
If you can't PROVE that your mother was Jewish, and you want to be
Jewish anyway, then you have to go to plan B: Conversion. Then you have
to convince the rabbis you really want to be a Jew, and why you want to
be a Jew, that you have no financial or other ulterior motives, and
learn Hebrew and the myrriad of laws and what it means to be a Jew,
with all its dangers, etc.,and can put up with "boot camp" for a year
or more, then you probably will be accepted into the triibe. Most drop
out or are washed out.
You mean I can go to my synagogue on Yom Ki\ppur, take out my statues
of either Jesus, or Buddha or Krishna, worship them right there in
front of everybody, and still be considered a Jew? Bullshit.
In ancient, biblical days in ISrael, I would have been killed by
stoning, and in the diaspora I would have been expelled. It happened to
Spinoza just for openly writing about ideas that were considered
blasphemous. Now, I agree there is no formal laws for expelling a Jew,
but in ancient days he would have been stoned. No expulsion necessary.
But in the diaspora, that remedy was no longer available, so open
blasphemy could only be dealt with by shunning or expulsion.
Alex Seredin is at least 74 years old. Some people never grow up.
>
> Lisa
>
You'd be ostracized, sure. But if you stopped being a dick and started
behaving yourself, you wouldn't have to convert to be accepted again.
Major difference, there.
Lisa
That's... very imaginative. But no rabbis "testified" that I was
Jewish when I was born. That's not how legal presumption works. You
make it sounds as though there's some panel of rabbis that checks out
all births. That's ludicrous.
> If you can't PROVE that your mother was Jewish, and you want to be
> Jewish anyway, then you have to go to plan B: Conversion.
When I moved to Israel, I needed to get proof that I was Jewish, in
order to get citizenship under the Law of Return. I gave them a
photocopy of my parent's ketuba (marriage contract). The thing was
nearly illegible, and they certainly could not have told what the
rabbi's name was. But it was good enough for them. And for general
purposes, I didn't even need that. No one asks.
Lisa
Jake, you're simply wrong. If a Jew gets baptized and goes over to
Christianity, he's still a Jew. An idolatrous Jew, yes, but still a
Jew. He wouldn't be accepted in the Jewish community, but communal
acceptance isn't what makes someone a Jew.
If this wrongheaded person were to get a grip and abandon his errors,
he'd be able to go back to being part of the Jewish community without a
conversion, because he never stopped being a Jew.
But other than that, you're right. Ben Gurion's son married a non-Jew,
so Ben Gurion's grandchildren aren't Jewish. Brezhnev's son married a
Jew, so Brezhnev's grandchildren are Jewish. Go figure.
Lisa
But you did have to have a document, the marriage contract of your
parents. This is one form
of documentation proving your mother's Jewishness as their ORTHOdox
rabbi would not
have married them in the first place if that were not the case. If your
rabbis at the rabbinate in ISrael let it slide that they could not make
out the signature name of the rabbi who wrote the contract, well,
consider yourself having gotten off easy. I had no marriage contract of
my parents who were married in Germany after the war, but I did have a
copy of my divorce from my exwife. That is some evidence of my
Jewishness as the previous rabbi who married me to my first wife would
not have done so if he had doubts about me. But my mother was present
and alive when I first got married in New York. Nonetheless, in Israel,
they did want evidence of my mother's Jewishness and that got me pissed
off. But I was able to get some witten witness testimony that she was
known as a good Jewess. Funny thing is that my Israeli wife was a
frigging leftiwing atheist social worker who ate pork at home, but she
had a living Jewish mother working in Beersheba, and that was all that
was needed:) My mother was a Holocaust survivor and yet I had to go
through that hassle nonetheless. My word was of no account to them. I
don't know who you were dealing with, but when it comes to marriage,
divorce and burial in a Jewish cemetary in Israel, the rabbinate is
very much involved.
>ou can't PROVE that your mother was Jewish, and you want to be
>Jewish anyway, then you have to go to plan B: Conversion. Then you have
>to convince the rabbis you really want to be a Jew, and why you want to
>be a Jew, that you have no financial or other ulterior motives, and
>learn Hebrew and the myrriad of laws and what it means to be a Jew,
>with all its dangers, etc.,and can put up with "boot camp" for a year
>or more, then you probably will be accepted into the triibe. Most drop
>out or are washed out.
and why do you what to be a jew? Ha Ha Ha so you receive more lands
belonging to the goy's? well well... those converted jews continue
with their Jewish wet dreams... Your stupid Rabbits are neither
Belonging to the tribe of Judea and they can't read the holy books in
the correct way... they are liars... and stupid land thieves ...
Because Pissrael is not the Israel promised to Hashem, Abraham, Moses
and Jacob... the promised made by god was the Kingdom, and the kingdom
is the world... but everybody has to wait till the messiah is here...
and not before he is here.... Learn to read your Talmud... Israel was
promised to the tribes of Jacob, the Promise made by Allah, and the
Light people would be freed after a "bondage of 400 years" and not a
bondage of 3200 years... and "Bondage is Not Diaspora"... Diaspora is
written in the bible, for the tribe of Judea, only "40 years" and not
3200 years as the Canaanite converts want us to believe... the False
Semitic have even not one drop of the holy blood in their veins...
The true Israel's are not more than 144.000 ... and they all belong to
Saint Family of the Moorish Nation of Tribes, and not to the Caucasian
Khazari Converts swine's... The Medicine Man can confirm my claims....
Ha Ha Ha
Ha Ha Ha Jewish when I moved to Pissrael... and I received land
belonging to the Goy... ha Ha Ha... Hear those Caucasian Canaanite
with their big Nose talk, as they are the chosen ones... ha ha ha The
fools have real wet dreams... Some one should tell those Canaanite
that they where doomed by NOAH already 12500 years ago... Maybe they
are forgotten the Curse pending on the Canaanite Race... But I not...
I was warned by Jesus... Mohammed... and all the other prophets... for
the Vermin... those rats even dare to call Jesus a Zealot...
Terrorist.... FOOLS THEY ARE....
Illness? What illness? Are you talking about attention-deficit syndr
First of all, no one who comes to Israel "receives" any land from
anybody. If you are very rich and can afford to buy private land, you
can do so, if you can afford mid-Manhattan
land prices. If you get a mortgage on an apartment, it will almost
certainly be on UJF leased land. As for the rest of your drivel, who
can understand your bullshit?
"The Re'evd" <renn...@angelicoon.co.il> wrote in message
news:43863f3c...@news.onetel.net.uk...
Oh, most of us don't see it unless somebody who isn't in our killfile
replies to it. (Like you just did.) Tell us how you view usenet and
somebody will tell you how to use your killfile, if you don't already know.
--Patti
>What the hell is this crap doing on this list?
What list are you talki
Don't hold your breathe. Or do so, and commit suicide by
self-asphyxiation. JEws are never going to give up the Jewish land of
Israel no matter how many roaches are spawned.
Only Jew-killers and pedophiles like Muhammad or Hitler shoud be dead
and stay dead.
DNA has nothing to do with it, one way or the other. If the rabbis say
someone is a Jew, then he or she is a Jew. If they say no, then he or
she is not. It's up to the rabbinical court.
Nevertheless, recent DNA analyses have shown that Jews in general have
a much closer DNA match to other Middle Eastern peoples than could ever
have been expected considering 2,000 years of exile and physical
appearances. Cetainly, there have been many converts over the
centuries, yet strict rabbinical control (until "reform" and
"conservative" sects came along about a century ago) has kept the tribe
from getting out of control.
Yes it has. No jew DNA, not a real jew.
If the rabbis say
> someone is a Jew, then he or she is a Jew.
How convenient. The orthodox have more than a little difficulty with that
state of affairs.
Nice try turkey. It's not jew land. You cunts swiped it.
>
Thought they were. Must have missed something.
Speaking of paedophiles - Does that include those deviant mohels?
>
DNA has everything to do with it. Your "rabbis" are not impartial and
cannot give an objective opinion as to whether someone is jewish or
not.
If schvartzes were allowed to decide who's a schvartze, who'd own up
to being a schvartze?
Most jews prefer the diaspora, as we both know. 'Israeel' is left to
those who have nowhere else to go. LOL
alt.games.diablo
> How's Florida, paskudniak?
Full of colons like you, Colon!
>The Re'evd wrote:
>> On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 21:53:31 -0500, "Jack Straw" <gfri...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>What the hell is this crap doing on this list?
>>
>>
>> What list are you talki
>
>alt.games.diablo
Never heard of it. Something to do with Satanic rites, is it?
Can you follow a thread at all?
>
>
That doesn't matter.
What does matter, and what appears to really have your panties in a twist,
is the fact that "our lot" will NEVER allow you to get away with "kicking us
out" of anywhere again. Deal with it.
>
>
"Gary Renzetti" <liz...@connection.com> wrote in message
news:b3d76$4387ee42$d8fe9ddc$31...@PRIMUS.CA...
Is that a fact?
>Deal with it.
Something the izzies are more likely to have to come to grips with.
>
>>
>>
>
>
Jews do everything, but since there are 1,000 times more Muislims they
contribute a thousand times more problems. But the do not contribute a
1,000 times more nobel prizes
in medicine.
> And Jews
> intentionally target and kill children (admittedly even a 3-year-old),
> which is no less heinous or wrong than killing adults, athletes or not.<
Only Hitler Jugend or their sand Nazi equals. We lost 1 million
children in WWII, and we are not going to go soft on those who want to
continue murdering them. Of course they will get what they want to do
to us! Why not?
> And don't forget, the first terrorist bombing of a civilian Hotel
> (the King David Hotel) was also carried out by Jewish terrorists from
> Israel, under orders of the terrorists David Ben-Gurion himself and
> carried out by another terrorist called Menachem Begin, both who were
> later elected as leaders of the Israeli regime.<
Arab terror preceded JEwish terror in Palestine by at least 20 years.
Anyway the King David Hotel was being used by Britain as its
administrative headquarters. The reason it happened was because the
British were putting Jews into concentration camps in Cyprus after the
Holocaust just for wanting to come to their own homeland.
> And let us not forget
> the Lavon Affair, where Jewish terrorists acting as part of an Israeli
> state sponsored terrorist plot to frame Arabs, were caught planting
> terror bombs in American and Egyptian offices in Alexandria Egypt.<
No one was harmed except the Jews who were EXECUTED by the Egyptians.
It was a rogue affair that nonetheless brought down BEn Gurion's
admininstration.
> What makes it even more sick is that the Israeli regime just recently
> rewarded the Jewish terrorists responsible with honors.<
Comparing the Jewish underground to the ARab terrorists is like
comparing the American Minutemen to the Iraqi insurgents. The JEwish
"terrorists" always gave fair warning to give time for the people to
quicky evacuate the premises. I reject all such comparisons, as I
reject comparing American soldiers to Nazi soldiers even if a few did
commit some intoward deeds.
Arab terror is indiscriminate and targets innocents on purpose.
> Perhaps if you stopped trying to blame Arabs for your own crimes, ended
> the illegal occupation of the West Bank and started abiding by
> International laws, treaties and the United Nations, you might some day
> earn the respect you feel you deserve, but right now the media has
> properly identified you AS the problem.
>
> Oh, and who cares about Nobel prizes, what about before 1900? So what
> did Jews do over the last 2000 years while Arabs, Christians and Hindus
> were building their great societies? Answer: Your people didn't do
> jack squat now did they except to sponge off other Christian and Arab
> societies were you were allowed to live, so while I understand your
> feelings of inferiority and can see why you feel the need to boast
> about Nobel prizes, remember that even Yasser Arafat received one for
> peace.
>
> Comparing the Jewish underground to the ARab terrorists is like
> comparing the American Minutemen to the Iraqi insurgents. The JEwish
> "terrorists" always gave fair warning to give time for the people to
> quicky evacuate the premises.
Just like Baruch Goldstein did?
Oh! I forgot. Goldstein is a hero of zionism. He knew the mosque was full of
munitions.
>
>AntiZ...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> Actually Jews do hijack planes, in fact, the very first terrorist
>> hijacking of a commercial airliner was done by Israeli Jews. <
>
>Jews do everything, but since there are 1,000 times more Muislims they
>contribute a thousand times more problems. But the do not contribute a
>1,000 times more nobel prizes
>in medicine.
Or 1000 times as much fraud, theft, deception or espionage.
>> And Jews
>> intentionally target and kill children (admittedly even a 3-year-old),
>> which is no less heinous or wrong than killing adults, athletes or not.<
>
>Only Hitler Jugend or their sand Nazi equals. We lost 1 million
>children in WWII, and we are not going to go soft on those who want to
>continue murdering them. Of course they will get what they want to do
>to us! Why not?
Do unto others as....
>> And don't forget, the first terrorist bombing of a civilian Hotel
>> (the King David Hotel) was also carried out by Jewish terrorists from
>> Israel, under orders of the terrorists David Ben-Gurion himself and
>> carried out by another terrorist called Menachem Begin, both who were
>> later elected as leaders of the Israeli regime.<
>
>Arab terror preceded JEwish terror in Palestine by at least 20 years.
>Anyway the King David Hotel was being used by Britain as its
>administrative headquarters.
Oh, that's all right, then.
>The reason it happened was because the
>British were putting Jews into concentration camps in Cyprus after the
>Holocaust just for wanting to come to their own homeland.
Oy vey. Another holocaust already!
>> And let us not forget
>> the Lavon Affair, where Jewish terrorists acting as part of an Israeli
>> state sponsored terrorist plot to frame Arabs, were caught planting
>> terror bombs in American and Egyptian offices in Alexandria Egypt.<
>
>No one was harmed except the Jews who were EXECUTED by the Egyptians.
Terrorists executed? That's just terrible!
>It was a rogue affair that nonetheless brought down BEn Gurion's
>admininstration.
>
>> What makes it even more sick is that the Israeli regime just recently
>> rewarded the Jewish terrorists responsible with honors.<
>
>Comparing the Jewish underground to the ARab terrorists is like
>comparing the American Minutemen to the Iraqi insurgents. The JEwish
>"terrorists" always gave fair warning to give time for the people to
>quicky evacuate the premises. I reject all such comparisons, as I
>reject comparing American soldiers to Nazi soldiers even if a few did
>commit some intoward deeds.
>Arab terror is indiscriminate and targets innocents on purpose.
The IRA also used to give "coded warnings".
Michael
> > I thought that ended after ten generations following conversion to
> > another religion.
> > Deborah
li...@starways.net wrote:
> Do you have any source for that?
None, outside a general impression.
>"A Jew who sins is still a Jew".
> Now, in practical terms, if it's that far back, odds are you'll never
> find it. And there's an issue of chazaka, or legal presumption. For
> example, I knew my mother's maternal grandmother when I was growing up,
> and to the best of my knowledge, she was definitely Jewish. But do I
> know that for a fact? How could I?
> Look, Scarlett Johanssen, Lisa Bonet and Jennifer Connelly are all
> Jewish, because their mothers were. Will their descendents identify as
> Jewish? Unlikely. On the other hand, Fran Drescher, Winona Ryder and
> Adam Goldberg are not Jewish, because their mothers were not (even
> though their fathers were). Will their children identify as Jewish?
> Happily, probably not. But what if they did? Would that make them
> Jewish? No, it wouldn't.
> Lisa
On not converting out....does one's (maternal) line remain Jewish
forever? Fex, a woman has a daughter, both are Xian. The mother was
raised Xian, as was the grandmother, the great-grandmother, and the
great-great-grandmother. However, IF the great-great-great grandmother
was Jewish, and the family converted out of Judaism, is the woman with
the daughter still Jewish, despite the generations of being raised
Xian? How many generations along the maternal line elapse before the
women cease to be Jewish? That's the question I was asking. I was under
the impression that, after ten generations, they cease to be Jews.
Deborah
Ten generations has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with it,
or anything else.
There is a rule about 3 generations for certain people,
after converting in, to be considered exactly as all other Jews,
but even that doesn't really apply any more,
because today's rule is that all peoples have been mixed up,
so the older, Biblical rules simply can't be applied any more.
Where 'ten generations' does occur, it means 'never'.
Zev