IRAQ the land civilized people forgot
Faiq Ghatala
As'slam aliakum dear sisters and brothers,
I am writing to you today to bring to light of the intolerable
situation that exists in Iraq today. Perhaps some concerned
individual can shed some more light on this subject, but for
now I will try my best.
Yesterday, watching Frontline, a PBS news documentary, I was
terribly moved at the plight of the Iraqi people.
The great liberator of the world, the policeman of the world,
fighter of truth, justice, and the American way, G. Bush, is doing
things so horrible to the Iraqi people one wonders, if he
is not himself Hitler revisited?
Because of US instigated UN imposed sanctions, the Iraqi people
are dying of starvation!
By middle of next year 1/3 of all the Iraqi infants will have died.
The current suffering is: no medicine what so ever for the sick people.
No food for babies, the farm output is reduced by 75 percent,
people are selling their personal property - jewelry, houses, cars
- anything of value - just to survive the next day.
Reports state that a Christian relief organization is distributing wheat/
rice to eliviate the starvation problem. But, the crowds are getting bigger
and bigger, more and people are being turned away empty handed. One can
only imagine if they will eat that night.
Reports state that one can of baby infant formula is costing 45 American
dollars. This is ten percent of an Iraqis monthly salary in normal times!
Everything else is proportionaly expensive.
I cannot describe the suffering the Frontline depicted in its news
show for it is indescribeable.
Frontline has asked comments from the president, the congress,
and the US ambassador for this in-humane act of United States.
Their only reply was of silence.
I cannot imagine that we the staunch Muslims living in the states cannot
speak out for our suffering Muslim brothers and sisters in Iraq. Are we
so wrapped up in our own lives that we don't show a bit of concern for
our brothers and sisters? Are we so dense?
Saddam Hussein is a treacherous leader by all accounts. Punishing
the Iraqi people, who had no decision in electing him in the first
place, in to forcing Saddam out is not the answer.
Bush holds steadfast in his decision to presure the Iraqi people
to force Saddam out of power.
I submit this will never happen. The Iraqi people will not give in
to this sort of pressure.
I submit to George Bush, what he is doing has grave consequences for
all of humanity.
I submit to the American people that the American media has hidden
the exact truth about what the war has done to Iraqis and the continued
boycott.
I submit to the people of the world. A brutal dictator has taken
power by force. Punishing the Iraqis for Saddam's actions is unjust.
I submit to the people of this net to please look at the situation
your self, and inform the uninformed. To write to the American
media. Write to your local political leaders and George Bush,
we will not be part of this Hanius crime.. this Genocide,..this mass
murder.
I submit to George Bush, who has already killed in excess of 3 hundred
thousand Iraqi men, and in all accounts should go down in history
as a mass murderer, no more killing.. Please, find some humanity in
your heart and stop this Genocide. Iraqi people have been punished
enough.
I submit to the people of the world, during world war II, America
air lifted food, medicine, and clothing to the German people. For
the Muslim population in Iraq, America is cutting of food, clothing,
and medicine. If this not proof of American hypocrisy, double standards,
racism, and bigotry, what is?
Please people, shed a tear for the determined, resourceful, resolute,
oppressed, and suppressed people of Iraq. Shed a tear for your
brothers and sisters.
Please, write to your local politicians. Hold demonstrations, bring
this serious issue to the forefront of the American media. Demand
answers. People are dying like flies. One precious moment cannot
be wasted. Just imagine if you were in their position?
ENOUGH KILLING.
Was'slam.
-Faiq Ghatala
V Nagarajan
>
> I submit to George Bush, who has already killed in excess of 3 hundred
> thousand Iraqi men, and in all accounts should go down in history
> as a mass murderer, no more killing.. Please, find some humanity in
I'm not sure about that. But he certainly is one of the vilest
criminals of the second half of this century. Don't froget the
innocent Panamanians murdered so King George could show the
world what a macho he is.
> your heart and stop this Genocide. Iraqi people have been punished
> enough.
>
> I submit to the people of the world, during world war II, America
> air lifted food, medicine, and clothing to the German people. For
> the Muslim population in Iraq, America is cutting of food, clothing,
^^^^^^
> and medicine. If this not proof of American hypocrisy, double standards,
> racism, and bigotry, what is?
>
This only serves to detract from the issue that George Bush,
just like Saddam Hussein is willing to sacrifice thousands of
lives if it will serve his political interests. That Iraqis are
muslims (don't forget there are christians too) doesn't enter
the picture. What are the muslim arabians doing to help the
Iraqis?
> Please people, shed a tear for the determined, resourceful, resolute,
> oppressed, and suppressed people of Iraq. Shed a tear for your
> brothers and sisters.
Also do your best to help the innocent victims of this outrage.
There are a few organizations like the Friends Service Committee and the
Fellowship of Reconciliation and a few others trying to clothe
and feed the dying victims of the war. Please help them with your
labor and/or money.
- Nagarajan
Gul Agha
In article <1991Oct31.0...@milton.u.washington.edu>, ng...@milton.u.washington.edu (V Nagarajan) writes:
> In article <1991Oct31....@ready.eng.ready.com> fa...@saga.eng.ready.com (Faiq Ghatala) writes:
> >
> This only serves to detract from the issue that George Bush,
> just like Saddam Hussein is willing to sacrifice thousands of
> lives if it will serve his political interests. ... What are the muslim > arabians doing to help the
> Iraqis?
What are our equine friends to do then? Those peaceable arabians, muslim
or otherwise, did not hurt anyone; war and other crimes inspired by greed
and hate being the exclusive province of the evil homo sapien members of
the Mammalia. Sigh!
Now where can I put the requisite smiley without being in poor taste?
--
Peace,
Gul
Kamran Aftab
>
>
> I am writing to you today to bring to light of the intolerable
> situation that exists in Iraq today. Perhaps some concerned
> individual can shed some more light on this subject, but for
> now I will try my best.
>
> Yesterday, watching Frontline, a PBS news documentary, I was
> terribly moved at the plight of the Iraqi people.
>
> The great liberator of the world, the policeman of the world,
> fighter of truth, justice, and the American way, G. Bush, is doing
> things so horrible to the Iraqi people one wonders, if he
> is not himself Hitler revisited?
>
> Because of US instigated UN imposed sanctions, the Iraqi people
> are dying of starvation!
>
I don't understand how the Iraqi people are bearing Saddam Hussain who has
caused to bring all these hardships to them. Any thoughts?
Kamran
>
>
Faiq Ghatala
>In article <1991Oct31....@ready.eng.ready.com> fa...@saga.eng.ready.com (Faiq Ghatala) writes:
>>
>> As'slam aliakum dear sisters and brothers,
>>
>> I am writing to you today to bring to light of the intolerable
>> situation that exists in Iraq today. Perhaps some concerned
>> individual can shed some more light on this subject, but for
>> now I will try my best.
>>
>> Yesterday, watching Frontline, a PBS news documentary, I was
>> terribly moved at the plight of the Iraqi people.
>>
>> are dying of starvation!
>
>I don't understand how the Iraqi people are bearing Saddam Hussain who has
>caused to bring all these hardships to them. Any thoughts?
>
>Kamran
>
The current suffering has nothing to do with Saddam forcing the
people to bear the hardship, but rather the will of the Iraqi's
to not submit to an outside force such as USA is pervasive.
You see, to be killed is better then suffering humiliation no matter
what the consequences are. This is inherient in human nature.
This is why Iraqis will not submit. As it is, Iraq views USA as the
great satan. How can it submit to USA?
Come on now folks, Muslim brothers and sisters are dying in Iraq,
can't we do anything to save them? Where are the defenders of Islam?
where are the humanitarians? where are the peace lovers? where are
the Pakistanis who are so voicefrous on cricket, Kashmir, and the
Babri mosque; isn't life more precious then anything in the world?
Its sad that lot of people on this net chipped in to buy a modem but
they don't even take the time to generate a response to a worthy
cause.
Gul Agha sends me a private e-mail, I hope he does not mind if I
post it:
Faiq,
Looking at the reality, I wouldn't expect much help from the Muslim
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
`Brotherhood' -- but I believe you would provide an important service
by posting your message widely and appealing to humanitarianism of
people (particularly other newsgroups..), you would perform an
important service.
Peace,
Gul
Is this the reality, my brother and sisters?
The silence is deafening.
-Faiq
Naveed Sherwani
>Its sad that lot of people on this net chipped in to buy a modem but
>they don't even take the time to generate a response to a worthy
>cause.
>
>Gul Agha sends me a private e-mail, I hope he does not mind if I
>post it:
>
> Faiq,
>
> Looking at the reality, I wouldn't expect much help from the Muslim
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> `Brotherhood' -- but I believe you would provide an important service
> by posting your message widely and appealing to humanitarianism of
> people (particularly other newsgroups..), you would perform an
> important service.
>
> Peace,
>
> Gul
>
>Is this the reality, my brother and sisters?
>
>The silence is deafening.
>
>
>-Faiq
I have talked to a LOT of people (including Americans) and most people are
simply not aware of the plight of the Iraqi's. But usually one gets a very
good humane response, once they get to know the situation.
We must do something.
Let us try to do something for this cause also. I suggest keep religion
out of it and in this way you will not turn off many NON-MUSLIM folks.
Let's push it a humanitarian cause.
All ideas are welcome. I am sure Faiq will be willing to provide leadership.
The first step may be to publicize the plight of Iraqi people. If some
body can make up a small poster, that we can download from the net. Then
we can ask folks to post it in all campuses.
regards,
-Naveed
Kamran Aftab
>people to bear the hardship, but rather the will of the Iraqi's
>to not submit to an outside force such as USA is pervasive.
>
>You see, to be killed is better then suffering humiliation no matter
>what the consequences are. This is inherient in human nature.
>
>This is why Iraqis will not submit. As it is, Iraq views USA as the
>great satan. How can it submit to USA?
>
>
who were those people that gave up even without trying to fight? who were
those who were kissing American soldiers' hands ?
(yes, they were starving Iraqis who gave up for their hunger and I don't
blame them for doing so, I blame Suddam!)
Could they be humiliated anymore than they have been?
Who submitted to all the conditions of US to end the war?
and opened it's facilities to be inspected.
Saddam Hussain has nothing to do with it?
C'mon, wake up Faiq! Are you among those who believe that Iraq won the war?
(if there is such a species).
Kamran
For deposit only
> people to bear the hardship, but rather the will of the Iraqi's
> to not submit to an outside force such as USA is pervasive.
>
has a lot to do with Saddam Husein. He was the one who invaded Kuwait and gave
America an oppurtunity to show off its strength and secure a major foothold in
the Middle East. The U.S was waiting for such an oppurtunity and behold! here
comes Saddam Husein.
> You see, to be killed is better then suffering humiliation no matter
> what the consequences are. This is inherient in human nature.
>
Nothing is inherent in human nature least of all something like getting killed.
If you can talk about something shared by most humans (and animals), it is
probably the instinct to survive. But as I said, there is nothing inherent in
human nature.
> This is why Iraqis will not submit. As it is, Iraq views USA as the
> great satan. How can it submit to USA?
>
Well, laying down arms and surrendering by the masses was a sign of submission,
was it not? Why didn't the Iraqis fight then ? Were they not humiliated then ?
Where was their "instinct to get killed" ? How about when they were torturing
and killing the Kuwaitis ?
>
>
> Come on now folks, Muslim brothers and sisters are dying in Iraq,
> can't we do anything to save them? Where are the defenders of Islam?
> where are the humanitarians? where are the peace lovers? where are
> the Pakistanis who are so voicefrous on cricket, Kashmir, and the
> Babri mosque;
This is NOT a war for Islam. This is a war for Saddam Husein. If you really
wanna fight for a person who condemned scores of people to die and still has
the face to rule, go ahead. You won't see me there. Just 'cause Saddam Husein
claims to be a Muslim doesn't mean his fight is a Moslem fight.
>isn't life more precious then anything in the world?
>
Didn't you just say, "to be killed is better then suffering humiliation no
matter what the consequences are." ? So I guess life is not more precious or is
it?
> Its sad that lot of people on this net chipped in to buy a modem but
> they don't even take the time to generate a response to a worthy
> cause.
>
I agree helping Iraqi citizens is a worthy cause but you know most of the stuff
you send will be taken by the obese army generals and the government. Why
should I help an inhumane regime ? Let the regime change and I'll send my
help.
>
> The silence is deafening.
>
Silence is a form of speech.
>
> -Faiq
Imran
P.S: So there, Usman H.
Faiq Ghatala
>>
>Will not submit???? what happened in the so called 'Gulf War' ?
>who were those people that gave up even without trying to fight? who were
>those who were kissing American soldiers' hands ?
>(yes, they were starving Iraqis who gave up for their hunger and I don't
>blame them for doing so, I blame Suddam!)
>Could they be humiliated anymore than they have been?
>Who submitted to all the conditions of US to end the war?
>and opened it's facilities to be inspected.
>Saddam Hussain has nothing to do with it?
>C'mon, wake up Faiq! Are you among those who believe that Iraq won the war?
>(if there is such a species).
>
>Kamran
>
I am not interested in a discussion on who is right or wrong over hear.
And right now I am not going to try and look good at the expense of others.
The war has been over a long time. The conditions in the country are not
favorable to American thinking, as far as Iraqis are concerned, they have
won the war. News is controled by Saddam and his henchmen. Meanwhile
thousands of people are dying and we have to do something, unless you
want to waste time getting into a meaningless discussion; this you will
have to do with your self, I am not interested.
I hope you will help.
-Faiq
Faiq Ghatala
>This is NOT a war for Islam. This is a war for Saddam Husein. If you really
>wanna fight for a person who condemned scores of people to die and still has
>the face to rule, go ahead. You won't see me there. Just 'cause Saddam Husein
>claims to be a Muslim doesn't mean his fight is a Moslem fight.
I am not fighting for Saddam, I am fighting for saving people from starving.
Saddam, guranteed, is probably very well fed. Chase Saddam, but do not
kill the people that Saddam forcefully is rulling over.
>
>>isn't life more precious then anything in the world?
>>
>Didn't you just say, "to be killed is better then suffering humiliation no
>matter what the consequences are." ? So I guess life is not more precious or is
Some people are sitting there creating red tape instead of thinking of what
I am talking about. This is so distructive to a very worth while cause!!!!!!
>I agree helping Iraqi citizens is a worthy cause but you know most of the stuff
>you send will be taken by the obese army generals and the government. Why
>should I help an inhumane regime ? Let the regime change and I'll send my
>help.
Help by lobying congress and the UN. No amount money is required of you.
Stop Children and Innocent Civilians from dying.
>
>Imran
>P.S: So there, Usman H.
Imran, Get with it. I am not trying to tell you to send money or
food. All I am saying is to have America stop the UN imposed sanctions
on Iraq. The sanctions are for food, medicne, and clothing. The Iraqi
people are already dying. The Iraqi babies are dying. The Iraqi people
have not attempted to over throw Saddam. All I am saying is, they are
not going to surrender. During the war they surrendered not because of
food shortage but because of the most advanced fighting machine in the
world raining down bullets and bombs for a month.
Second, the civilian population is innocent of any wrong doing, specifically.
You may disagree, but what ever hand they had in Kuwait, has been paid
back to them 10 thosand times over. They no longer need to suffer, a
better way must be found to remove Saddam. Every family in Iraq has
suffered at the hands of Saddam and at the hands of George Bush.
Please stop the UN imposed sanctions, or Iraq will not have any population
left except probably Saddam and his henchmen.
Please don't try to look good at the expense of others, specially when
people are needlessly dying.
-Faiq
Mr. Raza Syed
>>In article <1991Oct31....@ready.eng.ready.com> fa...@saga.eng.ready.com (Faiq Ghatala) writes:
>>>
>The current suffering has nothing to do with Saddam forcing the
>people to bear the hardship, but rather the will of the Iraqi's
>to not submit to an outside force such as USA is pervasive.
>
if not Saddam? it is he who push the Iraqis in particular
and Muslims allover the world in general to there lowest
point ever.
All muslims should definately help iraqi people.
Its true that USA did all the distruction but who give
them the opportunity? so in a sense he was/is serving them
if not why he is still in power? only Iraqi people sufferred
from the war not Saddam.
S.R.Raza.
Kamran Aftab
> Kamran,
>
> I am not interested in a discussion on who is right or wrong over hear.
> And right now I am not going to try and look good at the expense of others.
>
> The war has been over a long time. The conditions in the country are not
> favorable to American thinking, as far as Iraqis are concerned, they have
> won the war. News is controled by Saddam and his henchmen. Meanwhile
> thousands of people are dying and we have to do something, unless you
> want to waste time getting into a meaningless discussion; this you will
> have to do with your self, I am not interested.
>
Faiq, if you remember, you submitted the original aritcle, I followed up
with a question about Saddam Hussain, it was merely intended to start a new
discussion and didn't have anything to do with the original topic. You
responded to that article and discussed the issue raised by me. (telling that
how honourable Suddam Hussain and Iraqi's were, not to submit to the U.S).
Instead of answering to my question in a followup,
now you are suddenly backing off and trying to give the impression that I
changed the topic! Again, my letter had nothing to do with your appeal!
Please try to be more responsible, and if you *submit* :-) , accept it, rather
than trying to make a victory out of it :-)i
> I hope you will help.
>
>-Faiq
I hope you did get the help from me! :-)
Kamran