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Bawa  
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 More options Sep 26 2000, 3:00 am
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian, soc.culture.pakistan, alt.religion.islam, soc.culture.punjab, soc.culture.usa
From: "Bawa" <B...@nunayour.com>
Date: 2000/09/26
Subject: Re: BJP pseudosecular swines - `Voice of the voiceless: Status of Muslim women in India'

Mo wrote in message ...
> Why cant a BJP member bring in a private members bill to give equality
>to Muslim women . Why must Hajpayee always pander to Mullahs and
>ignore the plight of Muslim women ?..

   Asshole, the govt should be worrying about roti kapda aur makan. Not
indulging in idiotic issues.
   Or they get their asses kicked in the next election.

 
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Gul Agha  
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From: Gul Agha <a...@cs.uiuc.edu>
Date: 2000/09/26
Subject: Re: BJP pseudosecular swines - `Voice of the voiceless: Status of Muslim women in India'

mo2...@yahoo.com (Mo) writes:
>    Why cant a BJP member bring in a private members bill to give equality
> to Muslim women . Why must Hajpayee always pander to Mullahs and
> ignore the plight of Muslim women ?..

Good point!  This is why the birthrate stays so high and literacy
low.  They have to figure out how to empower women.  If they can't fix
civil law, just return it to the provinces with the "good faith clause"
like the constitution.

 
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Mirza Ghalib  
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From: Mirza Ghalib <urva...@ix.netcom.com>
Date: 2000/09/26
Subject: Re: BJP pseudosecular swines - `Voice of the voiceless: Status of Muslim women in India'
Where does the constitution of India say that
the government is responsible for providing "roti,
Kapra aur Makan"? It is slogan crafted by
communists, and is just that.

If you want these three things, work.


 
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Mo  
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 More options Sep 26 2000, 5:05 pm
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From: mo2...@yahoo.com (Mo)
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 05:02:42 GMT
Local: Wed, Sep 27 2000 1:02 am
Subject: BJP pseudosecular swines - `Voice of the voiceless: Status of Muslim women in India'
        Why cant a BJP member bring in a private members bill to give equality
to Muslim women . Why must Hajpayee always pander to Mullahs and
ignore the plight of Muslim women ?..

Laws in the spirit of the faith

 Anuradha Dutt

Some months ago, the National Commission for Women released a report
titled `Voice of the voiceless: Status of Muslim women in India'.

The study, prepared by Syeda Saiyidain Hameed, was especially critical
of the practice of talaq ul-bidnat. In this a Muslim husband gets a
divorce by uttering the word talaq three times. It recommended against
the practice, widely prevalent in India, and responsible for the
plight of many abandoned women. It cited the example of Muslim
countries like Pakistan, Bangladesh, Egypt, Turkey, Syria, Iran and
others that have reformed divorce laws to make them more fair.

The biggest irony is that in India alone the world's biggest secular
democracy the Muslim male can get divorce unilaterally by uttering the
word talaq thrice at one sitting, or even by putting it in a letter or
telegram. Thus, the recent report by the All India Muslim Personal Law
Board, the community's apex body for determining laws, has prepared a
draft paper on reforms in marriage and divorce, is encouraging news.
Except that Maulana Fahim Akhtar, the AIMLB spokesman has denied that
the proposed changes go to the extent that has been reported.

All that he is willing to concede is that talaq ul-bidaat is the worst
practice, and is slated to be discussed at the board's meeting
scheduled for the end of October. The draft of a standard nikaahnama
for the sunnis will also be considered. However, a report emanating
from Lucknow, which quotes an executive female member, Ms Naseem
Iqtedar Ali, as well as board member Mr Zafaryab Jalani, is more
explicit. The suggested amendments apparently include the following:
instant triple talaq or talaq ul-bidaat to be restricted and, instead,
talq-i-ahsan and talaq-i-hasan have been approved. Under this system,
a man can pronounce talaq once during a tuhr (about a month). After
three tuhr, a period of sexual abstinence, when the word talaq is
pronounced thrice, the divorce becomes irreversible. Other reforms
being considered are the provision of adequate mehr to the wife,
restriction of polygamy, and permitting the wife to exercise her right
to divorce under Islamic law (Khula).

NCW Joint Secretary Leena Mehendale, while approving these possible
amendments has voiced her reservations. One, whether the woman, on the
divorce coming through, is expected to return the mehr amount, which
she may have spent. And if she is not in a position to give back the
money, what happens? She points out that those women who have not
taken mehr at the time of marriage, forgo it when there is a divorce.

Two, in the event of the wife seeking divorce, if the proposal is
approved, whether she can exercise the right if she is unable to
return the mehr amount. This question needs to be seriously addressed.
According to the report, the wife's right to claim divorce may be
permitted in five situations. These are: when the husband's
whereabouts remain unknown for two years; when he provides no
financial support to his wife for a period of one year; when his
mental health is uncertain; when the couple has been living apart for
a year; and when the wife is subjected to cruel conduct by the
husband, or he suffers from a sexually transmitted disease. Ms
Mehendale's third reservation is with reference to the post-divorce
period: whether the woman will get maintenance. She points out that
the Shariat expects the man to provide a dignified life to the women.
But the issue of providing maintenance after divorce is contentious.

Clearly, the path of reforms is it thorny. A number of Muslims in
India are ignorant of the laws governing marriage and divorce. And the
State, for fear of antagonising a vital vote-bank, will not interfere
Progressive Muslims have to be at the forefront of any movement for
bringing about changes in their personal laws; changes that are in
keeping with the spirit of their faith.


 
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Mo  
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 More options Sep 26 2000, 7:17 pm
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From: mo2...@yahoo.com (Mo)
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 07:14:47 GMT
Local: Wed, Sep 27 2000 3:14 am
Subject: Re: BJP pseudosecular swines - `Voice of the voiceless: Status of Muslim women in India'
        The govts most important function is to preserve the freedom and
rights of Indians . Do you think the soldiers die for their country
for roti. kapada and makan or to save it from mad Islamists who will
end India's freedoms for ever ?..

"Bawa" <B...@nunayour.com> wrote:

Not
indulging in idiotic issues.
   Or they get their asses kicked in the next election.

 
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Bawa  
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 More options Sep 26 2000, 8:30 pm
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From: "Bawa" <B...@nunayour.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 00:30:34 GMT
Local: Tues, Sep 26 2000 8:30 pm
Subject: Re: BJP pseudosecular swines - `Voice of the voiceless: Status of Muslim women in India'

Mo wrote in message <68aA5.351$j4.43...@nnrp3.clara.net>...
> The govts most important function is to preserve the freedom and
>rights of Indians . Do you think the soldiers die for their country
>for roti. kapada and makan or to save it from mad Islamists who will
>end India's freedoms for ever ?..

  Asshole, Take your paranoa to RSS shakhas. Nobody is trying to end India's
freedom, not even Islamists.
  And govt's main duty is Roti Kapda aur makan.


 
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 More options Sep 26 2000, 10:00 pm
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From: David Starr <sdivad2...@my-deja.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 01:48:35 GMT
Local: Tues, Sep 26 2000 9:48 pm
Subject: Re: BJP pseudosecular swines - `Voice of the voiceless: Status of Muslim women in India'
In article <UU9A5.42141$4d.6193...@news02.optonline.net>,
  "Bawa" <B...@nunayour.com> wrote:

> Mo wrote in message ...
> > Why cant a BJP member bring in a private members bill to give
equality
> >to Muslim women . Why must Hajpayee always pander to Mullahs and
> >ignore the plight of Muslim women ?..

>    Asshole, the govt should be worrying about roti kapda aur makan.
Not
> indulging in idiotic issues.
>    Or they get their asses kicked in the next election.

How can the govt. provide roti, kapada and makan if the muslims keep
dozens of wives and breed like rats?

Educating women and giving them equal rights should be carved into the
constitution.

Dave
--
Islam is a gutter religion based on dumbass arab culture.
Its founder Mohammed was a low life son of a bitch and a
mad lunatic.

I piss on Mohammed (pig shit be upon him), Allah (pig shit
be upon him) and Quran (dumbass arabic crap) everyday.

ISLAM stands for the following:

[I] = Incest
[S] = Sodomy
[L] = Looting
[A] = Asslifting
[M] = Murder

Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.


 
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Bawa  
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 More options Sep 26 2000, 10:38 pm
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From: "Bawa" <B...@nunayour.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 02:37:58 GMT
Local: Tues, Sep 26 2000 10:37 pm
Subject: Re: BJP pseudosecular swines - `Voice of the voiceless: Status of Muslim women in India'

   Muslims don't have dozens of wives. Don't spread lies. Ofcourse you have
no sources to back up your lies.
And Hindus are breeding like  rats also. Their population has gone out of
control also.


 
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