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From: <z...@nationaldatamux.com>
Date: 2000/08/03
Subject: Re: 30 million Iranians at risk of starvation -UN report .
Mo wrote in message ...
> Along with 14m Afghans and 30m Pakistanis . . Mullahs go into a frenzy if
>a woman shows an ankle but couldnt care less if millions die of
>starvation .
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------- -
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Isn't THAT the truth!!! Furthermore, they--the women--better have dunned an
Islamic hejaab before they gasp for the last breath of air in the parched
deserts of Iran's scorched plains...for otherwise, only the hotter fires of
hell will be awaiting their already roasted bodies.
__Zee__

 
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From: gl...@my-deja.com
Date: 2000/08/03
Subject: Re: 30 million Iranians at risk of starvation -UN report .
In article <qjii5.5576$_8.693...@nnrp3.clara.net>,
  mo2...@yahoo.com (Mo) wrote:

As an American I can only good riddance to all Iranians
who crowd the street and chant "DEATH TO AMERCA" and
therefore show that they would like me and my family and
friends to DIE. Because of this I look upon this news
as good news and will celebrate the Iranians deaths.
To all other people and especially fellow American who
might look upon my words as distastful I say look at your
children or anyone you love and imagine them suffering
the worst pain you can imagine. THAT IS WHAT IRANIANS
WANT FOR YOU AND YOUR LOVED ONES. Take them at their
words. This is what they chant on TV knowing full well
that your will see it. It is MEANT for you to see.
The USA is good and Iran is evil. Evil should DIE.

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From: Ali <A...@the.museum>
Date: 2000/08/03
Subject: Re: 30 million Iranians at risk of starvation -UN report .

As a Persian living in America, I can only say you're an idiot to
think this way.  

First off, they had a reason to chant "Death to America".  The US not
only meddled in Iranian affairs, but gave refuge to the dictator shah
after he was overthrown.  

Second off, that was over 20 years ago, Iranian sentiment towards the
Americans have changed greatly.

Third off, maybe you should get your ass out of your recliner and go
do some reading, it'll do you good.

Ali


 
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From: "michelle" <miche...@neto.com>
Date: 2000/08/03
Subject: Re: 30 million Iranians at risk of starvation -UN report .

<gl...@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:8mcvqd$kom$1@nnrp1.deja.com...

> As an American I can only good riddance to all Iranians
> who crowd the street and chant "DEATH TO AMERCA" and
> therefore show that they would like me and my family and
> friends to DIE. Because of this I look upon this news
> as good news and will celebrate the Iranians deaths.
> To all other people and especially fellow American who
> might look upon my words as distastful I say look at your
> children or anyone you love and imagine them suffering
> the worst pain you can imagine. THAT IS WHAT IRANIANS
> WANT FOR YOU AND YOUR LOVED ONES. Take them at their
> words. This is what they chant on TV knowing full well
> that your will see it. It is MEANT for you to see.
> The USA is good and Iran is evil. Evil should DIE.

As a white Amercan woman living out in the heart
of redneck Texas land (proud to be a Texan by the way),
I hope beyond hope you people don't get into office and
turn America into a bad episode of He-Haw.
Please...people,vote for Gore not Bush!!!

Michelle


 
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From: Ali <A...@the.museum>
Date: 2000/08/03
Subject: Re: 30 million Iranians at risk of starvation -UN report .

So let me get this straight, if you see a group of wackos banding
together saying "Death to America" on Iranian news, you automatically
think that the majority of Iranian people feel the same way?  God
forbid you ever watch Iraqi Government run television.

Ali


 
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From: Ali <A...@the.museum>
Date: 2000/08/03
Subject: Re: 30 million Iranians at risk of starvation -UN report .
On Fri, 04 Aug 2000 07:41:42 +0530, Y2K Pagan <usene...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>On Thu, 03 Aug 2000 18:13:52 -0700, Ali thought that we should read
>this:

>>:|So let me get this straight, if you see a group of wackos banding
>>:|together saying "Death to America" on Iranian news, you automatically
>>:|think that the majority of Iranian people feel the same way?

>I'll ask you a question, what do you think of India in light of the
>recent events like the persecution of Christians by the lunatic
>fringe.

I think persecution of any group just because of race, religion, or
ethnicity, is stupid.

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Date: 2000/08/03
Subject: Re: 30 million Iranians at risk of starvation -UN report .

-----------------------------------------------------------------
-----

---------> so you eat American food and drink American water and
breathe American air --- but still stick to mad mullah hatred for
Americans --- is this what your ancient Aryan culture teaches
you???

------> Anyway -- you have lost all your Aryan culture long back
-- first it was Alexander who fu**** the persians -- then those
Arabs who fu**** them and making them muslims -- then the mongols
led by chenghiz khan fu**** the persians very very badly indeed
-- all this has made the persians feel very deeply depressed and
hence these calls for death to this and death to that --

------> Dont tell me they do not reflect the majority of persians
-- most of them are indeed like that -- learn some good Aryan
culture from the Indians who despite being Russia's greatest ally
during the cold war never ever called for death to Americans and
all such rubbish -- Aryans culture teaches that one must be
grateful to the host --- dont be a disgrace to persia -----

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From: Ali <A...@the.museum>
Date: 2000/08/03
Subject: Re: 30 million Iranians at risk of starvation -UN report .
On Thu, 03 Aug 2000 20:50:41 -0700, aryanviking

What the hell does me eating American food, and drinking American
water have anything to do with this?  And where do you get off saying
that I spread mullah hatred?  In fact, where in any of my posts do you
see that I support the IRI government?  Get a clue jerk off.

>------> Anyway -- you have lost all your Aryan culture long back
>-- first it was Alexander who fu**** the persians -- then those
>Arabs who fu**** them and making them muslims -- then the mongols
>led by chenghiz khan fu**** the persians very very badly indeed
>-- all this has made the persians feel very deeply depressed and
>hence these calls for death to this and death to that --

Oh I see, so you're dredging up things that happened thousands of
years ago and relating that to the hardships going on now in Iran.
Makes sense.

>------> Dont tell me they do not reflect the majority of persians
>-- most of them are indeed like that...

*cough*  bullshit

Many Iranians are trying to get American visas just to get a better
life going.  Where do you get your information from? Your ass?

> -- learn some good Aryan culture from the Indians who despite being Russia's greatest ally
>during the cold war never ever called for death to Americans and
>all such rubbish

Oh I see, and they also have a racist caste system, worship cows, and
persecute Christians.  Oh my, how I envy these people.  These Indians
have such a richer culture than us Iranians, you are so right.

> -- Aryans culture teaches that one must be
>grateful to the host --- dont be a disgrace to persia -----

You've already disgraced yourself buddy.

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From: Ali <A...@the.museum>
Date: 2000/08/03
Subject: Re: 30 million Iranians at risk of starvation -UN report .
On Fri, 04 Aug 2000 10:13:57 +0530, Y2K Pagan <usene...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

Be more specific, it's difficult to judge a country overall, I have to
judge a country by a certain aspect.  Now what aspect are you asking
me to judge about India?  Human rights, economy, etc.

Ali


 
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From: Ali <A...@the.museum>
Date: 2000/08/03
Subject: Re: 30 million Iranians at risk of starvation -UN report .
On Fri, 04 Aug 2000 10:25:58 +0530, Y2K Pagan <usene...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>On Thu, 03 Aug 2000 21:50:10 -0700, Ali thought that we should read
>this:

>>:|
>>:|Be more specific, it's difficult to judge a country overall, I have to
>>:|judge a country by a certain aspect.  Now what aspect are you asking
>>:|me to judge about India?  Human rights, economy, etc.

>general impressions only, with respect to the anti Christian
>activities of certain groups. You said that a country cannot be judged
>by the lunatics in it, so I'm asking how do you judge India seeing our
>bunch of lunatics.

I just know that there's lots of pollution, too many people, and about
every other Prime Minister gets assassinated.  You asked for my
general impressions, and there you have it.

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From: aryanviking <aryanvikingNOarS...@my-deja.com.invalid>
Date: 2000/08/03
Subject: Re: Re: 30 million Iranians at risk of starvation -UN report .
Y2K Pagan <usene...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 03 Aug 2000 22:02:21 -0700, Ali thought that we should
read
>this:

>>:|I just know that there's lots of pollution, too many people,
and about
>>:|every other Prime Minister gets assassinated.  You asked for
my
>>:|general impressions, and there you have it.

>Well I asked for it I guess. anyhow the question remains

unanswered.

---------> hey idiot patnaik -- stop that nonsense with that
fu**** up guy who pretends as if he does not understand what you
are saying -- its easy to talk with idiots and even easier to
talk with the intelligent -- but no one can ever talk with the
idiots who pretend intelligence or with the intelligent who
pretend idiocy ---- so leave him alone ----

>Chirag Patnaik
>--
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____________
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From: mo2...@yahoo.com (Mo)
Date: 2000/08/04
Subject: 30 million Iranians at risk of starvation -UN report .
        Along with 14m Afghans and 30m Pakistanis . Little point in wasting
time in praying as there is no Allah to listen to them  and idol
worshipping pays more dividends in development of culture and
prosperity .
        India has over 20m tonnes of surplus wheat it is anxious to give away
at rock bottom prices in exchange for oil. Mullahs go into a frenzy if
a woman shows an ankle but couldnt care less if millions die of
starvation . Truly the silly one only God theory rots the brain and
damages the heart's emotional centre..

--------------------------------------------------------------------------- -----

UN Says Iran Faces Critical Situation From Drought

Thursday, August 03, 2000

TEHRAN (Reuters) - Iran's worst drought in 30 years has inflicted
severe damage on the country's agriculture and livestock and threatens
to displace millions of people, the United Nations said Thursday.

According to a report published by a U.N. fact-finding mission, two
years of consecutive drought have affected 18 of Iran's 28 provinces
and more than half of the country's 60 million people.

``The enormous scope of the disaster is overwhelming the Iranian
government's resources, already stretched to the limit,'' it said.

``The overall drought situation is likely to worsen in the months to
come, as summer temperatures continue to rise and rain is not expected
until November.''

The disaster has placed an extreme strain on water resources,
livestock and agriculture, leading to greater hardship and human
suffering, the report added.

The mission, representing several U.N. agencies, recently visited
drought-hit regions, mainly in southern and eastern Iran, to assess
the situation and identify emergency needs.

``We are trying to develop a framework with the government to deal
with the chronic situation on a medium and long-term basis,'' said
Gamal Ahmed, representative in Iran of the U.N. Food and Agriculture
Organization (FAO).

``The findings show acute problems in the supply of drinking water and
substantial damage to agriculture and livestock,'' he told Reuters.

He said a full report would be submitted to the donor community,
listing steps to be taken to mitigate the effects of future droughts
and supplement government efforts.

Kaiumars Khosh-Chashm, representing the World Health Organization
(WHO) and a member of the U.N. team, said, ``The situation is changing
fast toward critical, even if it rains in November. The government has
done its best from its own resources, or we would have had a disaster
on our hands.''

The losses from the drought, estimated by officials as several billion
dollars, far outweigh emergency funds available to help the victims.
Tehran has appealed for international aid.

DROUGHTS HIT CROPS, LIVESTOCK

The U.N. report said the drought had dried up lakes and other
reservoirs, disrupting water flow in 70 percent of rural areas.

It also issued warnings of contamination and health hazards as the
populations in drought-hit regions grow more dependent on mobile and
stationary water tankers.

On the agriculture front, the drought has destroyed 2.8 million tons
of wheat crops and 280,000 tons of barley, in addition to the loss of
stubble used for animal feed.

Iran has been forced to import an additional 300,000 tons of barley
this year because of the drought.

An estimated 800,000 animals have died of malnutrition and disease and
more face starvation or death from lack of water.

``The drought has also severely impacted the number and productivity
of commonly held livestock. Breeding losses will be felt for years to
come,'' the report said.

It said water shortages could provoke over 60 percent of the
population in rural areas to migrate to overpopulated cities, which
themselves are short of water.

The drought, which embraces the entire region, could also trigger new
flocks of refugees into Iran from neighboring Afghanistan, the report
said.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------- -----

Bin Laden Eludes U.S. 2 Years After Embassy Bombings

Wednesday, August 02, 2000

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Two years after U.S. embassies were blown up in
East Africa, the United States still is frustrated in its efforts to
pry Osama bin Laden, the alleged mastermind, out of his refuge in
Afghanistan.

The United States has accused the Saudi exile of plotting bombings
that turned U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania into rubble on Aug.
7, 1998, killing more than 220 people.


 
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From: gl...@my-deja.com
Date: 2000/08/04
Subject: Re: 30 million Iranians at risk of starvation -UN report .
In article <gt1kosonj29bfh4micj01o30jt2jokt...@4ax.com>,
  Ali <A...@the.museum> wrote:

You forgot number 4.
I should do some reading? Tell me what date the Iranians
celebrate the Shah's downfall and I will read and I will
and watch on TV Iran's SUPREME leader and hundreds of
thousands of Iranians chant in the streets of
Tehran "DEATH TO AMERICA" and burn the American flag.
Will you tell me know that if I read the news on that
day that I will NOT read of this? What would would
Iran think if Clinton said "IRAN is SATAN, death to Iran."?
That is EXACTLY what Iran's excepted and beloved supreme
leader has said on many occasions.
I predict he will say it again.
Do you predict otherwise?

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Date: 2000/08/04
Subject: Re: Re: 30 million Iranians at risk of starvation -UN report .
On Thu, 03 Aug 2000 18:13:52 -0700, Ali thought that we should read
this:

>:|So let me get this straight, if you see a group of wackos banding
>:|together saying "Death to America" on Iranian news, you automatically
>:|think that the majority of Iranian people feel the same way?

I'll ask you a question, what do you think of India in light of the
recent events like the persecution of Christians by the lunatic
fringe.

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From: Y2K Pagan <usene...@yahoo.com>
Date: 2000/08/04
Subject: Re: Re: 30 million Iranians at risk of starvation -UN report .
On Thu, 03 Aug 2000 20:49:24 -0700, Ali thought that we should read
this:

>:|>
>:|>I'll ask you a question, what do you think of India in light of the
>:|>recent events like the persecution of Christians by the lunatic
>:|>fringe.
>:|>
>:|
>:|I think persecution of any group just because of race, religion, or
>:|ethnicity, is stupid.

That I agree with,

what my question was, what was your impression of India after you
heard all this. I was speaking in context of impressions, wackos say
"death to America" and a country shouldn't be judged on that. My
question, how do you judge India?

Chirag Patnaik
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Date: 2000/08/04
Subject: Re: Re: 30 million Iranians at risk of starvation -UN report .
On Thu, 03 Aug 2000 21:50:10 -0700, Ali thought that we should read
this:

>:|
>:|Be more specific, it's difficult to judge a country overall, I have to
>:|judge a country by a certain aspect.  Now what aspect are you asking
>:|me to judge about India?  Human rights, economy, etc.

general impressions only, with respect to the anti Christian
activities of certain groups. You said that a country cannot be judged
by the lunatics in it, so I'm asking how do you judge India seeing our
bunch of lunatics.

Chirag Patnaik
--
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From: Y2K Pagan <usene...@yahoo.com>
Date: 2000/08/04
Subject: Re: Re: 30 million Iranians at risk of starvation -UN report .
On Thu, 03 Aug 2000 22:02:21 -0700, Ali thought that we should read
this:

>:|I just know that there's lots of pollution, too many people, and about
>:|every other Prime Minister gets assassinated.  You asked for my
>:|general impressions, and there you have it.

Well I asked for it I guess. anyhow the question remains unanswered.

Chirag Patnaik
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Date: 2000/08/04
Subject: Re: Re: Re: 30 million Iranians at risk of starvation -UN report .
On Thu, 03 Aug 2000 23:47:38 -0700, aryanviking thought that we should
read this:

>:|---------> hey idiot patnaik -- stop that nonsense with that
>:|fu**** up guy who pretends as if he does not understand what you
>:|are saying -- its easy to talk with idiots and even easier to
>:|talk with the intelligent -- but no one can ever talk with the
>:|idiots who pretend intelligence or with the intelligent who
>:|pretend idiocy ---- so leave him alone ----

good idea idiot

;-)

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Discussion subject changed to "America shouted "Death to Iran" first" by omarkhay...@my-deja.com
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From: omarkhay...@my-deja.com
Date: 2000/08/04
Subject: America shouted "Death to Iran" first
In article <8mcvqd$ko...@nnrp1.deja.com>,

You are just an idiot. America has shouted DEATH TO IRAN
many times without actually saying those words!
For example, the American sponsored coup in Iran in 1953
was a very loud DEATH TO IRAN which echoed until 1978.
Also, American supplies of chemical weapons to Iraq was
another very loud DEATH TO IRAN, and American shooting
down of an Iranian airliner (which most Iranians believe
was deliberate) was another DEATH TO IRAN. Malicious
ongoing propaganda war on Iran is another loud DEATH TO
IRAN. There are many other examples.

Actually, in my view, Iranians should not shout DEATH TO
AMERICA anymore. Americans themselves are shouting DEATH
TO AMERICA every year by murdering tens of thousands of
their fellow Americans annually.
Finally I should say that America is a lot more evil than
Iran is.

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From: "Koroush Ghazi" <King_of_Ki...@bigpond.com>
Date: 2000/08/04
Subject: Re: 30 million Iranians at risk of starvation -UN report .
Why are you so quick to display your mental illness on no less than four
newsgroups?

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From: "Amir Shahin Sharifrazy" <s...@virgin.net>
Date: 2000/08/04
Subject: Re: 30 million Iranians at risk of starvation -UN report .
Mo,

Mo <mo2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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> Along with 14m Afghans and 30m Pakistanis . Little point in wasting
> time in praying as there is no Allah to listen to them

And how do you know that ?

Are you God, or do you have God like power ?

and idol

> worshipping pays more dividends in development of culture and
> prosperity .
> India has over 20m tonnes of surplus wheat it is anxious to give away
> at rock bottom prices in exchange for oil. Mullahs go into a frenzy if
> a woman shows an ankle but couldnt care less if millions die of
> starvation . Truly the silly one only God theory rots the brain and
> damages the heart's emotional centre..

The one God 'theory' has roots in ancient Zoroastrianism which is one of, if
not the, oldest religion in the world.
Perhaps it is wrong and we may find this out one day. But until that day
comes, I suggest you stop this arrogant attitude of 'we are better than you'
as it will only lead to self-destruction.
Did you not learn anything from the evil the English have inflicted on your
country for hundreds of years ??
Learn about how much your ancestors have suffered and don't be so quick to
judge a religion of God, especially one that is your neighbour.

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From: "Amir Shahin Sharifrazy" <s...@virgin.net>
Date: 2000/08/04
Subject: Re: 30 million Iranians at risk of starvation -UN report .
Should I judge all Americans as savage, murdering rapists who do nothing but
steal, loot & murder people for material gain ??

If I did, I would be as ignorant as you...and I'm not !

The Iranians you talk of are a group of people. They do not represent all of
Iranian society.
And even if they did...is America not the land of free-speech...these people
are expressing their opinions, and they have a God-given right to do so.
Whether they are right or wrong is debatable.

Coming from a land of 'freedom' you contradict yourself terribly.

Quote:
'America is the only nation in history which, miraculously, has gone
directly from barbarism to degeneration without the usual interval of
civilisation'
G. Clemenceau, French Prime Minister

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Subject: Re: 30 million Iranians at risk of starvation -UN report .
Where did I say anything about free speech? I woulnd deny the
the Iranians free speech. In fact I am thankful that
they are able to speak their minds. Now I know what they are
thinking and it is "Death to America". A "group" as you call
it is litterally multi hundreds of thousands of people in
the street celebrating something to do with the downfall
of the Shah. As the many news cameras zoom into various
pockets of these huge crowds they reveal the same story
over and over. Iranians burning and stomping upon the
American flag and chanting "death to America" and
"America is Satan" and the surrounding people cheering
them on. Why deny this?
Some might point to the (much smaller) KKK rallies that occurr
in the USA as showing a similar demonstation of a minority
that shouldnt be taken seriously but isnt there always a
number of even more vocal opponents to harrass and ridicule them?
Where is the opposition in Iran? I dont see the police or
citizens or any political leader calling for the Iranians
to not say such things. In fact the beloved supreme leader
regularly calls for the the death of the "great satan" America.
A people at some point ARE responsible for what their countries
position is and are responsible for the actions of their
leaders. Again, if Clinton called Iran "SATAN" or called for
the "DEATH OF IRAN" I could see the country and world
leaders castigating him. But we American are just supposed to
sit and stay quit while Iranians en masse call for our death?
I say NO! In light of my countries intelligence community saying
that Iran is supporting terrorist who's goal is the KILL
Americans, I say DEATH TO IRAN!. I feel at this time that
America has enough reason to attack Iran. The USA should
declare war on Iran and begin killing Iranians. Only then
will Iran understand that they do not have free reign
to call for and seek the death of Americans.
The line is drawn. DEATH TO IRAN!!

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Date: 2000/08/05
Subject: Re: 30 million Iranians at risk of starvation -UN report .
It is very unfortunate that starvation and dying of a group of people would
bring you joy and salvation. I feel that there is some humanity that has
been lost in you because of the hatred that political situation in Iran has
caused for you. To be honest, I don't believe you. I don't really think you
mean what you say. I know in your heart you really don't wish this. But may
be I am wrong. You really bring yourself down to the level of the hostage
takers, to the level of the people who would attack Americans overseas and
to the level of sub-human. The politics involved in what you on TV is quite
complicated and you would need to know a lot of the history in order to
understand the situation. Please don't get me wrong, I do not support these
chartings and demonstrations at all - but it's not as simple as saying that
Iranians just want the Americans dead. In fact that is not the case at all.


 
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From: "Amir Shahin Sharifrazy" <s...@virgin.net>
Date: 2000/08/05
Subject: Re: 30 million Iranians at risk of starvation -UN report .

<gl...@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:8mfr7r$mpm$1@nnrp1.deja.com...
> Where did I say anything about free speech? I woulnd deny the
> the Iranians free speech. In fact I am thankful that
> they are able to speak their minds. Now I know what they are
> thinking and it is "Death to America". A "group" as you call
> it is litterally multi hundreds of thousands of people in
> the street celebrating something to do with the downfall
> of the Shah. As the many news cameras zoom into various
> pockets of these huge crowds they reveal the same story
> over and over. Iranians burning and stomping upon the
> American flag and chanting "death to America" and
> "America is Satan" and the surrounding people cheering
> them on. Why deny this?

Who denied it ?
I am saying that there is a reason for everything that happens.

1- the people that chant do no represent all of Iranian society. There are
millions of other Iranians living in Iran and outside who do not share the
same view.

2- You cannot honestly tell me you believe everything you see on TV??? Alot
of the information about Iran in Western countries, especially US, is bias
and propaganda.

3- It's a nasty fact but a reality that you must face upto: The West
including US, UK etc...have for years been milking Iran and neighbouring
countires for Oil, gas and other natural minerals..
The US is the only country in the world that still holds trade embargo
against Iran ??
This angers people and the anger these people may feel is towards the
American Governement not ordinary people like you. The US Government is
corrupt and only interested in profiting from other countires which it has
the power to do so.

So don't appear as shallow as you do and judge ALL iranians by the ones you
saw on TV. As I shouldn't judge all Americans as KKK or money-grabbing
animals....and I won't because I would then be even more ignorant than they
are !!!!

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