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From: Ber...@City-Net.Com
Subject: HIJAAB: LET THERE BE NO DOUBT!!!
Date: 18 Jun 1995 14:58:09 GMT

Allah has said in the Qur'an (what means):

"And tell the believing women to lower their gaze
(from looking at forbidden things), and protect their
private parts (from illegal sexual acts, etc.) and not
to show off their adornment except only that which is
apparent (like palms of hands or one eye or both eyes
for necessity to see the way, or outer dress like veil, gloves,
head-cover, apron, etc.), and to draw their veils all over their
Juyunbihinna (i.e. their bodies, faces, necks and bosoms, etc.)...."
[Quran, Surah An-Nur, 24:31].


"O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the
women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their
bodies (i.e. screen themselves completely
except the eyes or one eye to see the way). That will be
better, that they should be known (as free respectable women)
so as not to be annoyed. And Allah is Ever
Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful." [Surah Al-Ahzab:59].


[Interpretation of the meaning of the Noble Qur'an
in the English language. A summarized version of At-Tabari, Al-Qurtubi,
and Ibn Kathir with comments from Sahih Al-Bukhari.
By Dr. Muhammad Hilali and Dr. Muhammad Khan of
the Islamic University in Medinah, Al-Munawarrah, Saudi Arabia.]

From the authentic Sunnah, we can conclude that there are
requirements for the Hijaab.


Requirements:
1. Extent of the Hijaab:

It is clear from the authentic Sunnah and the opinions
of the Salaf that the Hijaab must cover all of the woman's
body (excluding only the hands and face according to some
scholars while other scholars hold the face and hands as
being apart of a woman's awrah,
as is evident in the above tafseer).

Indeed, the word Khumuru (pl. of Khimaar) in the above ayah (24:31)
means a headscarf. The esteemed mufaasir (Qur'anic interpreter)
Al-Qurtubi states:

"Women in the past used to cover their heads with the khimar,
throwing it's ends over their backs. This left the neck and the upper
part of the chest bare, in the manner of the Chirstians.
Then Allah commanded them to cover those parts with the khimar."

Abu Dawood reports that 'Aishah (RAA) said:

"After this ayah was revealed, the women of the Ansaar
appeared like crows."
(Due to the color and shape of the cloaks they wore).

Narrated Safiya bint Shaiba (RAA): 'Aishah used to say:
'When the verse (24:31) was revealed,
(the ladies) cut their waist sheets at
the edges and covered their heads and
faces with those cut pieces of cloth'". [Bukhari].

Narrated 'Aishah (RAA): "
May Allah bestow His Mercy upon the early emigrant
women when Allah revealed, (24:31) - they tore their
Mourts (a woollen dress, or a waist-binding cloth or an apron etc.)
and covered their faces with those torn Mourts." [Bukhari].

Umm Hanna writes in her translation of, In Support of Hijaab:

"Covering the head is a commandment about which there
is complete consensus of all the Muslim sects.
Dr. Yusuf al-Qaradawi says, "The Muslims of all ages and
all cities, the jurists and the traditionists, the Sufis,
the Zahiriyya, the Ahl ul Ra'y and the Ahl Athar, are united
on the fact that a woman's hair is part of her beauty which
must be covered and cannot be revealed before any strange man."

Concerning ayah 33:59, Umm Hanna writes:

"The verse uses the word jilbaab, which is a garment that
covers the entire body, and also necessitates that the
jilbaab should hang down loosely. The verse then draws
our attention to the fact that a Muslim woman must have a
unique physical identity just as she has an intellectual
identity. This physical identity is the jilbaab and so the Muslim
woman becomes unique because of her appearance and her thinking.
Muslim records a Hadith from Umm Attiya (RAA) who said:
"The Prophet (PBUH) ordered us to take the old women,
menstruating women and pregnant women for Eid ul Fitr and
Eid ul Adha prayers. I said: O Prophet of Allaah. Some of us do not
have jilbaabs. He replied: Let their sisters give them
jilbaabs to wear.

Allaah Almighty also says:
"...and make not a dazzling display, like that of the former Times of
Ignorance..." [33:33].

In this verse, women are forbidden from adorning themselves
like the women of pre-Islamic times, and are told not to dress and
behave in a way that does not fit their character of civilised women.
So what was the dress and behaviour of women in Jahiliyya times?
The scholars have answered this question in detail, for example
Mujaahid says: "Women would walk alongside the men -
uncovered naturally." Qataada said: "As she walked, she would swing
her hips and flirt." Maqaatil wrote: "The women would wear veils on
their heads, but would not tie them tightly", and the root of
the word tabarruj (dazzling display) is to be clearly visible, hence burooj in Surah 85:1 means
(twinkling) constellations.

Allaah Almighty says: "
Such elderly women as are past the prospect of marriage -
there is no blame on them if they lay aside their (outer) garments,
provided they make not a wanton display of their beauty:
but it is best for them to be modest: and Allaah is One who
sees and knows All things." [24:60].

In this verse there is an allowance made for old women by
easing the most difficult requirements of the Hijaab. However,
this is on the condition that they do not uncover their beauty
or arouse the attention of men. If they do continue to cover
themselves, it is better for them. This is what the verse says
literally, while it also implies that covering is compulsory
for women who are not old, whether they are adolescents
or middle-aged, or in more general terms, for women who are
still attractive to men."

2. Thickness:

The clothing must be thick enough so as not to reveal the skin
color and form of the body. Umm Hanna states in her translation
of, In Support of Hijaab:


"Al-Qurtubi reports from 'Aisha (radhiAllaahu 'anha) that
"Some women from the tribe of Banu Tameem came to see her wearing
thin clothes. 'Aaisha (RAA) said: 'If you are believing women,
these are not the clothes of believing women." He also reports
that a bride came to see her wearing a thin veil (khimaar).
'Aaisha (RAA) said: "A woman who wears such clothes does not
believe in Surah Noor."


The Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) said:
"...scantily dressed women, who go astray and make others go
astray; they will not enter Paradise nor
smell it's fragrance, although it can be smelled from afar."
[At-Tabarani and Sahih Muslim].


Ibn Al-'Arabi said:
"They are described as being naked because if the clothes are
thin, they describe the body. Another explaination is that their
clothes are thick but are so fine that they describe clearly
the parts of the body as if she is naked.
The Hadith is thus a clear warning against revealing clothes."

3. Looseness:

The Hijaab must be loose enough so as not to reveal the woman's size,
shape, or limbs. Usamah ibn Zaid said: Allah's Messenger (PBUH)
gave me a gift of thick Coptic cloth
he had received as a gift from Dahiah Al-Kalbi,
and so I gave it to my wife. Thereafter
the Prophet (PBUH) asked me: Why didn't you wear the Coptic cloth?
I replied: I gaveit to my wife. The Prophet (PBUH) then said:
Tell her to wear a thick gown under it (the Coptic garment)
for I fear that it may describe the size of her limbs."
[Narrated by Ahmad, Al-Bayhaqi, and Al-Haakim].

4. Color, Appearance and Demeanor:

We must remember that the Hijaab also embodies the over-all
behaviour of the Muslim woman. Allah has said: "O wives of the
Prophet! You are not like any other women.
If you keep your duty (to Allah), then be not soft in speech,
lest he in whose heart is a disease (of hypocrisy or evil desire
for adultery, etc.) should be moved with desire, but speak in an
honourable manner. And stay in your houses, and do not display
yourselves like that of the times of ignorance, and offer prayers
perfectley (Iqamat-as-Salat), and give
Zakat and obey Allah and His Messenger.
Allah wishes only to remove Ar-Rijs (evil deeds and sins, etc.)
from you, O members of the family (of the Prophet-PBUH),
and to purify you with a thorough purification." [33:32-33].


Indeed, the Hijaab is meant to hide a woman's beauty.
However, we now see Muslims sisters wearing very bright and
loud clothing which is against the true definition of Hijaab.
Imam Adh-Dhahabi says in his book, Kitab Al-Kaba'ir
(The Book of Major Sins):
"Amongst the deeds which a woman is cursed for are
displaying the adornments she wears, wearing perfume when
she goes out, and wearing colorful clothes..."
Hence, the Muslim woman is encouraged to wear muted,
somber colors and to avoid bright designs, patterns and colors.


Let the Muslim men beware of this as it is we who are
responsible for our families.
Narrated by 'Abd Allah ibn 'Amr ibn Al-'Aas that the Messenger
of Allah (PBUH) has said:
"Among the three individuals who would not enter Jennah would be:
Ad-Dayooth, who is contented with obscenity within his family.
i.e., a cuckold - a man who permits the women for whom he is
responsible, such as his wife, daughter, etc., to engage in
illicit sexual relations or to display their beauty to men,
thereby stimulating sexual desire."

5. Difference from Men's clothing:

Abu Hurairah (RA) said:
Allah's Messenger (PBUH) cursed the man who wears women's clothes
and the women who wear men's clothes.
[Abu Dawood and Ibn Majah - Saheeh].

'Abd Allah ibn 'Umar (RA) said
he heard Allah's Messenger (PBUH) say:
The man who resembles a woman (through dress and behaviour) and the
woman who resembles a man is not of us (i.e., not of the believers).
[Ahmad and At-Tabarani - Saheeh].

Abu Dawood relates a narration from Umm Salamah (RAA)
which shows that the Prophet (PBUH) forbade women to bundle their khumuru
on their heads in such a way as to resemble the turban of a man.

6. Different from the clothing of the Kufar:

A Muslims clothing must not resemble the clothing of the
Kufar not only in dress, but in manners, religious practices and
festivities, transactions, etc. The first generation of Islam
clearly avoided being similar to the kufar.

'Abd Allah ibn 'Amr ibn Al-'Aas (RAA) said:
Allah's Messenger (PBUH) saw me wearing two saffron-colored
garments, so he said: Indeed, these are the clothes of the
kuffar, so do not wear them. [Sahih Muslim].

'Abd Allah ibn 'Umar (RAA) said:
Allah's Messenger (PBUH) stated: Whoever resembles (imitates)
a people is one of them. [Abu Dawood].

7. No vainity or Ostentatious Dressing:

Ibn 'Umar (RAA) relates that Allah's Messenger (PBUH) said:
Whoever dresses for ostentation in this world,
Allah will dress that perso in a dress of humilitation on the Day of Resurrection, and then set it on fire."
[Abu Dawood].


Umm Hanna also states:

"As regards to the issue of the validity of a
woman's prayer when her head is uncovered, it would be wrong
to isolate such a topic as it could lead to the rejection
of all the religious commandments. We shall thus
look at the issue in it's entirety, as the scholars have done.
The scholars are all agreed that a woman's prayer
is not valid if she is not wearing a long, covering dress
and a head-covering. This was the way of the female
Companions of the Prophet, as narrated in Bukhaaree
from 'Aaisha (RAA): "The Prophet of Allah (PBUH)
would pray Fajr, and with him would go the believing
women, completely enveloped in their cloaks. They would
then return to their homes without anyone
recognising them." - due to the darkness and also due to the severity
of the covering. (see Fath al-Baari, volume 1, p482.)


'Aaisha (RAA) narrates that the Messenger of
Allah (PBUH) said: "Allah does not accept the prayer of a woman
who has reached the age of puberty unless she is
wearing a head-covering." Transmitted by Aboo Daawood,
Haakim, Baihaqi, Tirmidhee and others.


The scholars of the Hanafi school have written
that in prayer, a woman must cover her entire body, even the
hair of her ears. They only excluded the palms of
her hands and feet. The Shafi'i scholars said similarly, except
that they only excluded the face and the hands.
They say: "The face and hands can be uncovered either in prayer
or anywhere else." The Hanbali scholars only allow
her to uncover her face, while the Maalikis make the following
classification of 'awrah (the parts of the body that must be covered):

1. "Severe" - It is not permissible to uncover these
areas under any circumstances. And if the person prays with
these parts uncovered, unless out of coercion or
forgetfulness, the prayer is invalid and must be repeated.

2. "Light" - It is Haraam to uncover these areas, but this
does not invalidate the prayer. It is mustahab (better)
for a person, whether man or woman, who prays
with these areas uncovered to repeat the prayer.

This is a summary of the views of the scholars
on this subject. To say that a woman's prayer is valid if she prays
with her head uncovered is a deviant view which
is calculated to sow trouble among the Muslims, Allaah Forbid!
The scholars do however, make a distinction between
'awra of sight and 'awra of prayer. So the woman must
cover her entire body, especially her hair,
when praying. But in front of mahraam male
relatives, she can uncover
her hair and the rules are relaxed a little. In the
presence of her husband she can dress as she pleases. There is
thus no correlation between the dress for prayer and the
dress of public appearance, as there are separate rules
for each."


The majority of the information in this post was
extracted from the book, In Support of Hijaab,
translated by Umm Hanna, and
The Requirments of Women's Hijab in Accordance
with the Qur'an, Authentic Sunnah and the Practices of the Pious
Predecessors, by Idris Palmer. Jazakum Allahu Khairan.

Your brother in Islam
Salaah Brooks
(Ber...@City-Net.com)

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Mo

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God has decreed that believing women must wear the full veil outside
the house 24/31 and 33/59 and says quite clearly in these verses that
the veil must be pulled down to the bosom so that the Muslim women may
be recognised ( by the covering of the face ) .
So women who try and compromise with God by wearing just the hijab and
not covering the face are not following god's instructions which
cannot be changed (10/11) even if 100 % of the people so decide. These
women are certainly destined for everlasting hellfire if they dont
adopt the full chador.
The Taliban and FIS in Algeria are quite right that women must not
venture outside the house without wearing the full face veil ie if we
go according to Quranic injunctions.
The verses are there although because only paragraphs are numbered
they may be + or - by about five. Flames which fail to quote from the
Quran will be put into trash.


Jawwad

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Mo <10033...@compuserve.com> wrote in article
<4ul542$g...@hil-news-svc-4.compuserve.com>...


> God has decreed that believing women must wear the full veil outside
> the house 24/31 and 33/59 and says quite clearly in these verses that
> the veil must be pulled down to the bosom so that the Muslim women may
> be recognised ( by the covering of the face ) .


Covering the face is not mentioned.


> So women who try and compromise with God by wearing just the hijab and
> not covering the face are not following god's instructions which
> cannot be changed (10/11) even if 100 % of the people so decide. These
> women are certainly destined for everlasting hellfire if they dont
> adopt the full chador.
> The Taliban and FIS in Algeria are quite right that women must not
> venture outside the house without wearing the full face veil ie if we
> go according to Quranic injunctions.


Which Quranic injunction is that??


> The verses are there although because only paragraphs are numbered
> they may be + or - by about five. Flames which fail to quote from the


Okay, here are the verses + or - five included...

24:26 Women impure are for men impure and men impure for women impure and
women of purity are for men of purity and men of purity are for women of
purity: these are not affected by what people say: for them there is
forgiveness and a provision honourable.
24:27 O ye who believe! enter not houses other than your own until ye have
asked permission and saluted those in them: that is best for you in order
that ye may heed (what is seemly).
24:28 If ye find no one in the house enter not until permission is given to
you: if ye are asked to go back go back: that makes for greater purity for
yourselves: and God knows well all that ye do.
24:29 It is no fault on your part to enter houses not used for living in
which serve some (other) use for you: And God has knowledge of what ye
reveal and what ye conceal.
24:30 Say to the believing men that they should lower their gaze and guard
their modesty: that will make for greater purity for them: And God is well
acquainted with all that they do.

24:31 And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and
guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty and
ornaments except what (must ordinarily) appear thereof; that they should
draw their veils over their bosoms and not display their beauty except to
their husbands their fathers their husband's fathers their sons their
husbands' sons their brothers or their brothers' sons or their sisters'
sons or their women or the slaves whom their right hands posses s or male
servants free of physical needs or small children who have no sense of the
shame of sex; and that they should not strike their feet in order to draw
attention to their hidden ornaments. And O ye Believers! turn ye all
together towards God that ye may attain Bliss.

24:32 Marry those among you who are single or the virtuous ones among
yourselves male or female: if they are in poverty God will give them means
out of His grace: for God encompasseth all and he knoweth all things.
24:33 Let those who find not the wherewithal for marriage keep themselves
chaste until God gives them means out of His grace. And if any of your
slaves ask for a deed in writing (to enable them to earn their freedom for
a certain sum) give them such a deed if ye know any good in them: yea give
them something yourselves out of the means which God has given to you. But
force not your maids to prostitution when they desire chastity in order
that ye may make a gain in the goods of this life. But if anyone compels
them yet after such compulsion is God Oft-Forgiving Most Merciful (to them)

24:34 We have already sent down to you verses making things clear an
illustration from (the story of) people who passed away before you and an
admonition for those who fear (God).
24:35 God is the Light of the heavens and the earth. The Parable of His
Light is as if there were a Niche and within it a Lamp: the Lamp enclosed
in Glass: the glass as it were a brilliant star: Lit from a blessed Tree an
Olive neither of the east nor of the west whose oil is well-nigh luminous
though fire scarce touched it: Light upon Light! God doth guide whom He
will to His Light: God doth set forth Parables for men: and God doth know
all things.
24:36 (Lit is such a Light) in houses which God hath permitted to be raised
to honour; for the celebration in them of His name: In them is He glorified
in the mornings and in the evenings (again and again) -


33:54 Whether ye reveal anything or conceal it verily God has full
knowledge of all things.
33:55 There is no blame (on these ladies if they appear) before their
fathers or their sons their brothers or their brother's sons or their
sisters' sons or their women or the (slaves) whom their right hands
possess. And (ladies) fear God; for God is Witness to all things.
33:56 God and His angels send blessings on the Prophet: O ye that believe!
Send ye blessings on him and salute him with all respect.
33:57 Those who annoy God and His Apostle - God has cursed them in this
World and in the Hereafter and has prepared for them a humiliating
Punishment.
33:58 And those who annoy believing men and women undeservedly bear (on
themselves) a calumny and a glaring sin.

33:59 O Prophet! Tell thy wives and daughters and the believing women that
they should cast their outer garments over their persons (when abroad):
that is most convenient that they should be known (as such) and not
molested. And God is Oft- Forgiving Most Merciful.

33:60 Truly if the Hypocrites and those in whose hearts is a disease and
those who stir up sedition in the City desist not We shall certainly stir
thee up against them: Then will they not be able to stay in it as thy
neighbours for any length of time:
33:61 They shall have a curse on them: whenever they are found they shall
be seized and slain (without mercy).
33:62 (Such was) the practice (approved) of God among those who lived
aforetime: No change wilt thou find in the practice (approved) of God.
33:63 Men ask thee concerning the Hour: Say The knowledge thereof is with
God (alone) : and what will make thee understand?- perchance the Hour is
nigh!
33:64 Verily God has cursed the Unbelievers and prepared for them a Blazing
Fire -


Please indicate where you can see the verse on covering the face.....

Matthew J Smith

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I think it is about time we nominated this Mo character
for Kook of the Month! For anyone who hasn't been
listening, Mo has filled various Islam-related newsgroups
with rants against the hijab, the headscarf worn by
Muslim women. This person (it's not clear whether Mo
is male or female) generally uses stock phrases, such
as "the loathsome hijab" and "surely God is the worst
fashion designer in the universe), and constantly assumes that
various cranky militia groups (such as the Afghan Taliban)
represent Islam.

So therefore I formally nominate Mo for the next round of
Kook of the Month.

If you wish to vote, see the following web page:

http://www.wetware.com/mlegare

Note: for some reason the KotM voting section of
Mr Legare's page has not been active recently. But
when it comes up, please go there and vote for MO!

Matthew J Smith

Mo wrote:
>
> God has decreed that believing women must wear the full veil outside
> the house 24/31 and 33/59 and says quite clearly in these verses that
> the veil must be pulled down to the bosom so that the Muslim women may
> be recognised ( by the covering of the face ) .

> So women who try and compromise with God by wearing just the hijab and
> not covering the face are not following god's instructions which
> cannot be changed (10/11) even if 100 % of the people so decide. These
> women are certainly destined for everlasting hellfire if they dont
> adopt the full chador.
> The Taliban and FIS in Algeria are quite right that women must not
> venture outside the house without wearing the full face veil ie if we
> go according to Quranic injunctions.

> The verses are there although because only paragraphs are numbered
> they may be + or - by about five. Flames which fail to quote from the

> Quran will be put into trash.

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Well done Jawwad..

People like Mo, Kabeer..and ofcourse the RamB don't know what they are
talking..they always get their facts from some book written by one of
them..So next time guys if you quote Quran or Hadith please do give the
Author's name(Translation) and the verse number clearly...and for
Humanity's sake don't take verses out of context. I do understand that you
guys have other work but bash non-hindu religions.

Mind your postings from next time onwards

Thanks
Moin


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Mo

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Matthew J Smith <indi...@dillons.co.uk> wrote:

>I think it is about time we nominated this Mo character
>for Kook of the Month! For anyone who hasn't been<

You have my vote !

Naeem Jeenah

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In response to Salaah Brooks

>Subject: HIJAAB: LET THERE BE NO DOUBT!!!

>Allah has said in the Qur'an (what means):

Salaah, when you quote Qur'an please distinguish your (or antone else's)
commenatary (which are in parentheses hereunder) and the text.

> "And tell the believing women to lower their gaze
> (from looking at forbidden things), and protect their

"from looking at forbidden things" is not in the verse, for example

> private parts (from illegal sexual acts, etc.) and not
> to show off their adornment except only that which is
> apparent (like palms of hands or one eye or both eyes
> for necessity to see the way, or outer dress like veil, gloves,
> head-cover, apron, etc.), and to draw their veils all over their

"like palms of hands or one eye or both eyes for necessity to see the

way, or outer dress like veil, gloves, head-cover, apron, etc" is just your
commentary. The qur'an says none of this nonsense about one eye, etc. And so,
"what is apparent, i would argue,would include the face because the arab women
at the time of the prophet generally had their faces exposed, and so the faces
were "apparent". I would go further to say that it would include the hair.

> Juyunbihinna (i.e. their bodies, faces, necks and bosoms, etc.)...."

"their bodies, faces, necks and bosoms, etc". Again, your interpretation. It's
supposed to be bosoms, literally translated, not the rest.

Thus women are told to cover their bosoms (breasts) - which were exposed -
with their headscarfs. It is erroneously argued that this verse calls for the
covering of the head. Wrong! It calls for the using the headscarf to cover the
bosoms!

> [Quran, Surah An-Nur, 24:31].

> "O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the
> women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their
> bodies (i.e. screen themselves completely
> except the eyes or one eye to see the way). That will be
> better, that they should be known (as free respectable women)
> so as not to be annoyed. And Allah is Ever
> Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful." [Surah Al-Ahzab:59].

Again, all the stuff in parentheses! Without that the verse means other than
what you force it to.


How about, in your next posting, you give us a treatise relating to modest
dress of men...

naz...@pop.erols.com

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I thought the modern concept of veil was invented in egypt (ie Parda) To
me what it seems like a good interpretation is that women (and Men)
should dress conservatively withoug drawin or exposing themselves and
incurring un due attention. Again it will be a personal choice of the
individual how to define the true scope of this diverse issue.

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