Messianic Jews and Torah & CIRCUMCISION as well, an OPEN CHALLENGE for pastor Douglas Nicholson & will also match your offer of $10,000 Another discussion addresses this topic:

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[issue # 1]

an OPEN CHALLENGE

for pastor Douglas Nicholson

& will also match your offer of $10,000

http://www.geocities.ws/kenadian10/CHALLENGE_pastor_douglas_nicholson_new.pdf



[issue # 2]
Messianic Jews and Torah & CIRCUMCISION as well,

http://www.geocities.ws/kenadian10/CIRCUMCISION_Rebbe_Pastor.pdf





[issue # 1]
HERE'S MY OPEN CHALLENGE to you ;

and those of the like minds;

and anyone else who may wish to respond;

the choice is yours:





like you said, "Put Your Money

Where Your Mouth Is!





Last Trumpet Org Ministries / Newport Beach, California

Torah "only" of Lord Yeshua of non-rabbinic practices.

This ministry is just "doers of Torah" only



although, you vis-à-vis Last Trumpet Org Ministries,

like a few others e.g., African-Israel International

Union of Y’sra’elite, etc. ;

pride yourselves as just "doers of Torah" only

and Torah "only" of Lord Yeshua .... or whatever:



believe me, NOTHING could be further from the truth.



on the other hand, I cannot and will not even endeavor

to match your BLIND FAITH ;

which per se, was only based on partial and selective ;

reading of Torah, the Tanach and The New Testament;

without giving due care / much thought to actual text;

context and connotation thereof.



and above all, your outright fear of the true Islam;

as also portrayed / revealed in the Torah,

the Tanach and The New Testament, etc.,

leaves much to be desired.



that said, I cannot and will not stoop to your level as well,

because it is not personal or about you and me either.



however, i can and will surely challenge you ;

and also match your offer of $10,000;

if you prove me wrong 115%;

WITHOUT EXCLUDING THE SCRIPTURAL;

EVIDENCE PRODUCED TO SUBSTANTIATE

THE TRUTH & REALITY OF:

THE DIVINE ISLAM;

given herein per the Torah, the Tanach;

and the New Testament, etc.





like you said, "Put Your Money

Where Your Mouth Is!



however first of, deposit your $10,000 in a fixed

deposit bank account for 1 year, as i will too;

overseen by a neutral party of 6 judges ;



made up as follows and acceptable to both parties:

2 learned but INDEPENDENT practitioners
and followers of the Torah;

2 learned but INDEPENDENT practitioners
and followers of YAHUSHUA Messiah;



and finally, 2 learned but INDEPENDENT practitioners
and followers of the HOLY QUR'AN;

&

'THE DIVINE LIGHT IN ISLAM';

[irrevocable condition] - the last two must be;

learned but INDEPENDENT practitioners
and followers of Sufi ISLAM.



all of whom will declare a winner after 12 months - 365 days from the

date of acceptance of my challenge.









[issue # 2]


Rebbe Simon Altaf & Pastor Douglas Nicholson ;

Simon <shimoun63>;
Pastor Douglas Nicholson <douglasnicholson_lasttrumpet>;
CC'd: Ali Navali <kenadian_gmail>;





shalom,

i submit that both of you were continuously;
lying and deceiving your congregations;
everyday of your respective lives:


Every man child among you
shall be circumcised.


(Genesis 17:10 KJV)
This is my covenant,

which ye shall keep,

between me and you

and thy seed after thee;

Every man child among you
shall be circumcised.


a token of the covenant

(Genesis 17:11 KJV)

And ye shall circumcise

the flesh of your foreskin;

and it shall be

a token of the covenant

betwixt me and you.





that soul shall be
cut off from his people;
he hath broken my covenant.
(Genesis 17:14 KJV)

And the uncircumcised man child

whose flesh of his foreskin

is not circumcised,

that soul shall be
cut off from his people;
he hath broken my covenant.




however, as the so-called Messianic Jews and Torah
observants or whatever;



did EITHER ONE OF YOU EVER,

AND I MEAN EVER - fulfill Elohim's MOST

fundamental commands in the TORAH?

please prove it, if you ever did and how!!!




waste your time, are you kidding me?

WHAT makes either one of you think that i am writing
for you?



Rebbe Simon Altaf & Pastor Douglas Nicholson;

HERE'S A FUNDAMENTAL CHALLENGE
ON YOUR RESPECTIVE FAITH AND DUBIOUS /
CLAIMS ....



CIRCUMCISION?


as the so-called Messianic Jews and Torah
observants, could you furnish any written evidence /

medical certificates, etc., to substantiate your respective claims?






Rebbe Simon Altaf & Pastor Douglas Nicholson


could you kindly tell us when and how
you, gentlemen fulfilled Elohim's fundamental
command in the Torah re: CIRCUMCISION;




and THEREBY, also FULFILLED your part / END
of the covenant with Elohim, if ever?


http://www.geocities.ws/kenadian10/CIRCUMCISION_Rebbe_Pastor.pdf