Nordic federation???
Valtsu
Stockholm (and has to justify its existence to the general public)
Dagens Nyheter publishes an article by Gunnar Wetterberg, a known
Swedish historian and political debateur on how the five Nordic Council
members should go on with their cooperation. His model is a federal
state of these countries with Queen Margarethe II as the head of state.
Very nice and entertaining, especially the discussion below the article,
but how many levels of bureacrasy is really needed now with EU involved?
Any way, I'm afraid that the historical baggage is the biggest obstacle.
http://www.dn.se/opinion/debatt/de-fem-nordiska-landerna-bor-ga-ihop-i-en-ny-union-1.982761
Fredrik :Ostman
> Anyway, I'm afraid that the historical baggage is the
> biggest obstacle.
Yes, Sweden beat the Danes and not the other way around. For hundreds
of years. Over and over. And there aren't enough potatoes around for
all Swedes, Finns and Norwegians to always have one handy for speaking
Danish.
On the plus side we could finally get rid of Nynorsk!
--
Fredrik Östman
J. Anderson
"Valtsu" <val...@stadissa.fi> wrote in message
news:VKzFm.32541$La7....@uutiset.elisa.fi...
> Now that the Nordic Council is about to convene in its annual meeting in
> Stockholm (and has to justify its existence to the general public) Dagens
> Nyheter publishes an article by Gunnar Wetterberg, a known Swedish
> historian and political debateur on how the five Nordic Council members
> should go on with their cooperation. His model is a federal state of these
> countries with Queen Margarethe II as the head of state.
My immediate reaction is: No, we can't have a notorious nicotinist as our
head of state. I prefer a reliable alcoholic like Charlie 16. But let me
read the article first.
J. Anderson
There seems to be a very strong opinion in Finland in favour of some sort of
Nordic union -- at least judging from the current poll in the evening paper
Iltalehti. With the poll approaching a total of 6,000 voters, the 'Yes camp'
has stabilized its position at 78% with only 22% voting against the idea.
http://www.iltalehti.fi/ulkomaat/2009102710495517_ul.shtml This is
interesting. There might be considerable support in Finland for a political
party with a 'Nordic agenda', whatever that means: protecting the welfare
state, restricting immigration, being critical towards the EU and suspicious
of NATO initiatives.
Such a union would be an interesting topic to discuss in this newsgroup, but
as always there's almost nobody around.
Fredrik :Ostman
> a 'Nordic agenda', whatever that means: protecting the welfare
> state, restricting immigration, being critical towards the EU
> and suspicious of NATO initiatives.
This only shows how little we have in common: The welfare state has
ceased to exist, Sweden has after Germany the least restrictive
immigration policy in Europe, Norway and Denmark are founding members
of NATO, Denmark is firmly planted in the European Union etc.
Seems more likely to me, that "Nordic agenda" means "Give us some
Norwegian oil money already!".
--
Fredrik Östman
Per Rønne
> "Valtsu" <val...@stadissa.fi> wrote in message
> news:VKzFm.32541$La7....@uutiset.elisa.fi...
> > Now that the Nordic Council is about to convene in its annual meeting in
> > Stockholm (and has to justify its existence to the general public) Dagens
> > Nyheter publishes an article by Gunnar Wetterberg, a known Swedish
> > historian and political debateur on how the five Nordic Council members
> > should go on with their cooperation. His model is a federal state of these
> > countries with Queen Margarethe II as the head of state.
>
> My immediate reaction is: No, we can't have a notorious nicotinist as our
> head of state.
Rumors say she will soon retire. In half a year she will be 70 years old
and her husband is 75.
Frederik [X] became an ex-nicotinist when he became father. His son
Christian will be Denmark's Christian XI - and would become Sweden's
Christian III ... the next Christian in line after Christian II whom the
Scanians called "Christian the Good" ...
> I prefer a reliable alcoholic like Charlie 16. But let me
> read the article first.
--
Per Erik R�nne
http://www.RQNNE.dk
Errare humanum est, sed in errore perseverare turpe
Hiski
wrote:
> This only shows how little we have in common: The welfare state has
> ceased to exist,
Where and how? In Finland at least it is strong as ever, supporting
more and more people.
> Sweden has after Germany the least restrictive
> immigration policy in Europe,
Another highly questionable statement. The German immigration policy
favours those with "German blood", though less than before. France or
the UK do not have such a system, neither does Sweden. (Finland does,
in practice.) Comparing the restrictiveness of immigration policies is
thus very complicated, because the rules are different for different
ethnicities and nationalities.
Hiski