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Will NZ ever have its own 24hour news channel or radio network (nationwide)???

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MP (_organization) -- http://CBC.am (CBC Radio 1)

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Nov 22, 2002, 3:46:17 AM11/22/02
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Will NZ ever have its own 24hour news channel or radio network
(nationwide)???

Canada has had CBC Newsworld since 1989.

Tim Scrivens

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Nov 22, 2002, 5:03:03 AM11/22/02
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"MP (_organization) -- http://CBC.am (CBC Radio 1)"
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> Will NZ ever have its own 24hour news channel or radio network
> (nationwide)???
>
> Canada has had CBC Newsworld since 1989.

Umm. I don't think we actually MANAGE 24 hours worth of news a day. Short
of having "Cat stuck up a tree". Hell, they stretch to get an hours' worth
a night.

We get a BBC news, CNN and CNBC feed on Sky, if you are pining.


Philip Crookes

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Nov 22, 2002, 7:27:30 PM11/22/02
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MP (_organization) -- http://CBC.am (CBC Radio 1)
<mike...@u.washington.edu> wrote in message
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> Will NZ ever have its own 24hour news channel or radio network
> (nationwide)???
>
> Canada has had CBC Newsworld since 1989.
>

It's a matter of population. There are more Canadians than there are of us.
Actually, we are among the smallest countries in the world. OK, Pitcairn,
Tuvalu, Tokelau, Liechtenstein, San Marino and Niue are smaller, but I'm
talking about developed Western countries here. Realistically, the 3.8
million of us produce about an hour's worth of tv news a day - interesting
to us, but mostly no-one else. International news generates about another
two hours maximum. Son if you can face a news channel on a three hour
repeating cycle, welcome. It'll cost, of course - based on Sky's half a
million viewers, we'd need to sell subscriptions to another million or so to
make any money.

We'll get it when we can afford it, and are willing to pay for what might
amount to a lot of repetition.

Philip


Enkidu

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Nov 22, 2002, 7:41:33 PM11/22/02
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On Fri, 22 Nov 2002 23:03:03 +1300, "Tim Scrivens"
<scrive...@invalidxtra.co.nz> wrote:

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>"MP (_organization) -- http://CBC.am (CBC Radio 1)"
><mike...@u.washington.edu> wrote in message
>news:arkqsv$1rm0$1...@nntp6.u.washington.edu...
>> Will NZ ever have its own 24hour news channel or radio network
>> (nationwide)???
>>
>> Canada has had CBC Newsworld since 1989.
>
>Umm. I don't think we actually MANAGE 24 hours worth of news a day. Short
>of having "Cat stuck up a tree". Hell, they stretch to get an hours' worth
>a night.
>

Well, look at this one. It's REAL NZ news....

http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,2119029a10,00.html

Cheers,

Cliff
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MP (_organization) -- http://CBC.am (CBC Radio 1)

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Nov 23, 2002, 12:12:24 AM11/23/02
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Will an NZ 24 hour news channel or radio network (nationwide) ever emerge,
case for : Radio
I did kind of forget to mention 'ABC Newsradio' in my analsis question.
Certanly NZ can do a 24 hour radio news network.

That said, TORONTO (with its pre Sky Tower -- CN Tower) has its own 24 hour
news station on cable.
Seattle (Puget Sound) / Portland / Eugene in the USA have "Northwest Cable
News" (www.nwcn.com), so to say that NZ cannot per say produce its own 24
hour news programming I consider hogwash.

Not all 24 hours need to be Kiwi made.
It could require as little as 8 hours / day.

You are also forgetting live event coverage.
CNN and BBC World are bad examples here, one needs to look at RDI or CBC
Newsworld for what I would expect for NZ.
It need not be done via TVNZ, a joint venture on UHV / DTV by PRIME & TV3 &
TV4 would do just fine.

SBS like services are also possible, but looking at ABC's SBS network as a
model does not a perfect corralation make...

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> MP -- http://CBC.am (CBC Radio 1) wrote in message:


> > Will NZ ever have its own 24hour news channel or radio network
> > (nationwide)???
> >
> > Canada has had CBC Newsworld since 1989.

I don't totally follow the population arguement.
TV technology is very scaleable these days.
Take a 2nd look at your own analsis, there is room for what I am
considering...

Peter Ashby

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Nov 23, 2002, 8:44:06 AM11/23/02
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In article <okjttu8fjl87tpee2...@4ax.com>,
Enkidu <enk...@cliffp.com> wrote:

Obviously evidence that even a small place like Dunedin could do
worthwhile 24hr news coverage. If you include Invercargill the schedules
might be tight ;-)

Peter

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Brian Harmer

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Nov 23, 2002, 11:57:55 PM11/23/02
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On Sat, 23 Nov 2002 01:27:30 +0100, "Philip Crookes"
<philip_...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Actually, we are among the smallest countries in the world. OK, Pitcairn,
>Tuvalu, Tokelau, Liechtenstein, San Marino and Niue are smaller, but I'm
>talking about developed Western countries here


For the record, of the 198 countries listed in the ITU's teledensity
stats (which includes most of the countries of the world) there are 76
countries smaller than us.


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Brian M. Harmer

Philip Crookes

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Nov 24, 2002, 2:12:05 AM11/24/02
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Brian Harmer <brian....@paradise.net.nz> wrote in message
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Fascinating. Where does one find this list? And what do they consider a
country? Are places like the Isle of Man, Lord Howe island, Chatham Island
considered actual countries?

Philip


Brian Harmer

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Nov 24, 2002, 3:30:32 AM11/24/02
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On Sun, 24 Nov 2002 08:12:05 +0100, "Philip Crookes"
<philip_...@yahoo.com> wrote:

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>Brian Harmer <brian....@paradise.net.nz> wrote in message
>news:h0n0uu8cfr29o8ed6...@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 23 Nov 2002 01:27:30 +0100, "Philip Crookes"
>> <philip_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Actually, we are among the smallest countries in the world. OK, Pitcairn,
>> >Tuvalu, Tokelau, Liechtenstein, San Marino and Niue are smaller, but I'm
>> >talking about developed Western countries here

>> For the record, of the 198 countries listed in the ITU's teledensity
>> stats (which includes most of the countries of the world) there are 76
>> countries smaller than us.

>Fascinating. Where does one find this list? And what do they consider a
>country? Are places like the Isle of Man, Lord Howe island, Chatham Island
>considered actual countries?

See:
http://www.itu.int/ITU-D/ict/statistics/at_glance/basic01.pdf

The countries which are smaller by population are Ireland, Eritrea,
Armenia, Central African Republic, Lithuania, Lebanon, Uruguay,
Palestine, Congo, Panama, Mauritania, United Arab Emirates, Oman,
Jamaica, Mongolia, Latvia, Lesotho, TFYR Macedonia, Slovenia, Kuwait,
Namibia, Botswana, Estonia, Gambia, Trinidad & Tobago, Gabon,
Guinea-Bissau, Mauritius, Swaziland, Guyana, Fiji, Comoros, Bahrain,
Bhutan, Cyprus, Djibouti, Qatar, Greenland, Equatorial Guinea,
Guadeloupe, Solomon Islands, Luxembourg, Macao SAR, Cape Verde,
Suriname, Martinique, Malta, Brunei Darussalam, Bahamas, Iceland,
Barbados, Maldives, Belize, French Polynesia, New Caledonia, Vanuatu,
Samoa, Guam, Sao.Tome & Principe, Mayotte, Micronesia, Virgin Islands
(US), Aruba, St. Vincent, Grenada, Tonga, Jersey, Andorra, Antigua &
Barbuda, Dominica, Kiribati, Seychelles, Marshall Islands, Bermuda,
Guernsey, Northern Marianas, St. Kitts and Nevis.

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Brian M. Harmer

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