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Helen Art Gallery

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Oct 17, 2002, 3:12:55 PM10/17/02
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The Oil Painting -- Stunning New Zealand is on sale now at ebay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=912733904

Southern Island of New Zealand is depicted in this very professionally
made painting by the renowned New Zealand artist Harry Smith in 1977.
His love for the mountains of the Rangitata River area is seen in this
extremely well composed work. The spirit of the Alma mountain and of
the Rangitata River directly flows into the viewer.

The painting in the pristine condition will look just right in your
study room. It measures 11½" × 14½" with the frame in pristine
condition 2" in width.

Regards
Helen Art Gallery

gruffy

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Oct 17, 2002, 6:43:07 PM10/17/02
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Get a life this is by the same painter as the Gum Tree

On 17 Oct 2002 12:12:55 -0700, helen...@hotmail.com (Helen Art
Gallery) wrote:

>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=912733904

Myk Cameron

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Oct 18, 2002, 2:28:44 PM10/18/02
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On 17 Oct 2002 12:12:55 -0700, helen...@hotmail.com (Helen Art
Gallery) wrote:

You are Helen Clark, aren't you? Don't you ever learn?


Myk

Aditya Basrur

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Oct 18, 2002, 5:54:11 PM10/18/02
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"Myk Cameron" <a...@image.co.nz> wrote in message
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Myk, you've forgotten that the Prime Minister does not deign to answer
questions on her wrongdoing, since they're so obviously "irrelevant" to her
job ... Bow down and be thankful that she deigns to rule.

Aditya [Wondering if anyone else is noticing a hint of my antagonism towards
our great leader] Basrur


Sean

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Oct 19, 2002, 12:19:07 AM10/19/02
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Helen Art Gallery wrote:
>
> The Oil Painting -- Stunning New Zealand is on sale now at ebay.
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=912733904

I still say this picture looks wrong (see my earlier posting
on soc.culture.new-zealand). (There is a larger view of the
painting near the bottom of the ebay site).

Regards, Sean

ps. It also looks like it was a paint-by-numbers. But then,
what do _I_ know about art? A few years ago Canada's National Gallery
paid big coin (ie, something like $100,000 of TAXPAYER's money)
for some "modern" art consisting of 3 horizontal bands of color.
Well, shoot, with a few spray cans and a piece of leftover plywood
I could have whomped up something just a good for half the price!

Sue Bilstein

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Oct 19, 2002, 4:22:00 AM10/19/02
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"Sean" <no....@no.spam> wrote in message news:3DAF9DB4...@no.spam...

> Helen Art Gallery wrote:
> >
> > The Oil Painting -- Stunning New Zealand is on sale now at ebay.
> >
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=912733904
>
> I still say this picture looks wrong (see my earlier posting
> on soc.culture.new-zealand). (There is a larger view of the
> painting near the bottom of the ebay site).
>
> Regards, Sean
>
> ps. It also looks like it was a paint-by-numbers. But then,
> what do _I_ know about art?

I agree with you, Sean. My friend Chris's mum in Oamaru paints pictures
that are miles better. I might tell her she should try auctioning them on
ebay.

William J. Ewing

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Oct 19, 2002, 3:37:06 PM10/19/02
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On Sat, 19 Oct 2002 21:22:00 +1300, "Sue Bilstein"
<sue_bi...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>"Sean" <no....@no.spam> wrote in message news:3DAF9DB4...@no.spam...
>> Helen Art Gallery wrote:
>> >
>> > The Oil Painting -- Stunning New Zealand is on sale now at ebay.

To me it looks like something any half-arsed art student could peel
off on a Saturday afternoon. Still, I guess it's a bloody sight better
than that Colin McCann crap.

Max Burke

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Oct 20, 2002, 2:36:52 AM10/20/02
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> William J. Ewing scribbled:

>>>> The Oil Painting -- Stunning New Zealand is on sale now at ebay.

> To me it looks like something any half-arsed art student could peel
> off on a Saturday afternoon. Still, I guess it's a bloody sight better
> than that Colin McCann crap.

So which would you rather own? (given the choice)

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Sue Bilstein

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Oct 20, 2002, 5:02:15 AM10/20/02
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"Max Burke" <mlvburke@%$%#@.nz> wrote in message
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> > William J. Ewing scribbled:
>
> >>>> The Oil Painting -- Stunning New Zealand is on sale now at ebay.
>
> > To me it looks like something any half-arsed art student could peel
> > off on a Saturday afternoon. Still, I guess it's a bloody sight better
> > than that Colin McCann crap.
>
> So which would you rather own? (given the choice)
>

Me, if I got the choice between a Colin McCahon & the paint-by-numbers job,
I'd take the McCahon - yes please! And if it wasn't too big for the walls
in my house, I'd keep it too.

Any Rita Anguses, Bill Suttonses, Fomisons, Hoteres etc gladly accepted, for
that matter.


William J. Ewing

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Oct 20, 2002, 3:35:20 PM10/20/02
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On Sun, 20 Oct 2002 19:36:52 +1300, "Max Burke" <mlvburke@%$%#@.nz>
wrote:

>> William J. Ewing scribbled:
>
>>>>> The Oil Painting -- Stunning New Zealand is on sale now at ebay.
>
>> To me it looks like something any half-arsed art student could peel
>> off on a Saturday afternoon. Still, I guess it's a bloody sight better
>> than that Colin McCann crap.
>
>So which would you rather own? (given the choice)

>mlvburke@#%&*.net.nz

McCann, of course, but I'd flick it on straight away. There are so
many suckers out there who have fallen for the myth that McCann is a
painter. He's not even a real painter's arsehole.

heavy mung@nz.invalideds.com Tim Scrivens

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Oct 20, 2002, 8:53:41 PM10/20/02
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"William J. Ewing" <ewin...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Do you mean Colin McCahon??

My spelling is probably off too, but it'd be closer.


Brian Harmer

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Oct 20, 2002, 9:13:24 PM10/20/02
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On Mon, 21 Oct 2002 13:53:41 +1300, "Tim Scrivens" <tim.scrivens heavy
mu...@nz.invalideds.com> wrote:

>"William J. Ewing" <ewin...@aol.com> wrote in message
>news:3db304ad...@news.netaccess.co.nz...
>> On Sun, 20 Oct 2002 19:36:52 +1300, "Max Burke" <mlvburke@%$%#@.nz>
>> wrote:

>> >> To me it looks like something any half-arsed art student could peel
>> >> off on a Saturday afternoon. Still, I guess it's a bloody sight better
>> >> than that Colin McCann crap.

>> McCann, of course, but I'd flick it on straight away. There are so
>> many suckers out there who have fallen for the myth that McCann is a
>> painter. He's not even a real painter's arsehole.
>
>Do you mean Colin McCahon??

I wandered into the Adam Gallery on Victoria University's campus the
other day. I am convinced it is a gallery intended for the academic
art specialist rather than for those who love good art. Most of the
items on display I wouldn't accept if they were printed on soft paper
with perforations every six inches. I just found no way to connect
with them at all.

On the other hand, McCahon's Gate III was also on display. I would
rather have the money it is estimated to be worth, than the painting
itself, yet I found it quite moving. It is a huge work and has an
imposing presence. It was by far the most tasteful work on display.

See http://www2.vuw.ac.nz/adamartgal/vuw-collection/big/mccahon.html


--
Brian M. Harmer

Jim Purdie

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Oct 20, 2002, 11:54:38 PM10/20/02
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Brian Harmer <brian....@paradise.net.nz> wrote in message
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You mean academic art specialists don't love good art, Brian? How much is it
worth not to tell them you said so? But I know what you mean, and agree, for
what it's worth. "I don't know much about art, but I know what I like."

Another question that always intrigues me is that a painting by a good
painter is worth a fortune, until someone proves that it is in fact a
forgery. It is still the same painting, and presumably should still arouse
the same emotions in the viewer, but overnight it's monetary value
disappears. I am forced to the sad conclusion that there is a large bullshit
factor in art appreciation. (Yes, I have heard all the justifications.)Just
don't ask me to draw the dividing line between bullshit and art.

Jim Purdie


Sue Bilstein

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Oct 21, 2002, 6:26:34 AM10/21/02
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"Brian Harmer" <brian....@paradise.net.nz> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 21 Oct 2002 13:53:41 +1300, "Tim Scrivens" <tim.scrivens heavy
> mu...@nz.invalideds.com> wrote:
>
> >"William J. Ewing" <ewin...@aol.com> wrote in message
> >news:3db304ad...@news.netaccess.co.nz...
...

>
> >> McCann, of course, but I'd flick it on straight away. There are so
> >> many suckers out there who have fallen for the myth that McCann is a
> >> painter. He's not even a real painter's arsehole.
> >
> >Do you mean Colin McCahon??
>
> I wandered into the Adam Gallery on Victoria University's campus the
> other day. I am convinced it is a gallery intended for the academic
> art specialist rather than for those who love good art. Most of the
> items on display I wouldn't accept if they were printed on soft paper
> with perforations every six inches. I just found no way to connect
> with them at all.
>
> On the other hand, McCahon's Gate III was also on display. I would
> rather have the money it is estimated to be worth, than the painting
> itself, yet I found it quite moving. It is a huge work and has an
> imposing presence. It was by far the most tasteful work on display.
>
> See http://www2.vuw.ac.nz/adamartgal/vuw-collection/big/mccahon.html
>

I love that thing. It used to be in the hall of a lecture theatre building
at Vic, in 1975. Sort of like having a good landscape or some dramatic
weather to look at.


William J. Ewing

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Oct 21, 2002, 11:08:55 PM10/21/02
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On Mon, 21 Oct 2002 13:53:41 +1300, "Tim Scrivens" <tim.scrivens heavy
mu...@nz.invalideds.com> wrote:

It is.....much.....in fact it's spot on. Thanks for the correction.
WJE

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