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Kaz

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Sep 11, 2003, 12:09:29 AM9/11/03
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The Japanese government should ban the Japanese citizen's visits to
New Zealand. Those albinic-skinned egoistic, arrogant and impudent
world's worst racists in the nasty fartland down under are extremely
aggressive to the innocent Japanese tourists.

I've heard from several Japanese tourists who had been to the dirty
land that they had been severely offended by those albinic-skinned
dirty apes. Some of them even suffered outrages by those nasty apes.

The New Fartland has to be ranked as the most dangerous country for
the Japanese tourists, more than traveling to Iraq. I recall the the
consulate of the New Fartland was once even located in right next to
the headquarters of the largest Yakuza of Kobe that is a city filled
with sangokujin gangsters. Those nasty dirty albinic-skinned New
Fartlanders belong to such sangokujin gangs and they are nothing else
besides criminals trying to rip off money from the Japanese, or
swindlers trying to discredit the Japanese.

omega

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Sep 11, 2003, 12:19:31 AM9/11/03
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"Kaz" <kaz...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Take your medication, your barking mad.


vernon...@oyama.ca

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Sep 11, 2003, 12:23:51 AM9/11/03
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In article <44dc0a26.03091...@posting.google.com>, kaz762
@hotmail.com stirred up shit pointlessly, saying:

> The Japanese government should ban the Japanese citizen's visits to
> New Zealand. Those albinic-skinned egoistic, arrogant and impudent
> world's worst racists in the nasty fartland down under are extremely
> aggressive to the innocent Japanese tourists.
>
> I've heard from several Japanese tourists who had been to the dirty
> land that they had been severely offended by those albinic-skinned
> dirty apes. Some of them even suffered outrages by those nasty apes.

Define "outrages".


>
> The New Fartland has to be ranked as the most dangerous country for
> the Japanese tourists, more than traveling to Iraq.

Says who?

> I recall the the
> consulate of the New Fartland was once even located in right next to
> the headquarters of the largest Yakuza of Kobe that is a city filled
> with sangokujin gangsters.

So what? What is the significance of that?

> Those nasty dirty albinic-skinned New
> Fartlanders belong to such sangokujin gangs

Says who?

> and they are nothing else
> besides criminals trying to rip off money from the Japanese, or
> swindlers trying to discredit the Japanese.
>

Says who?

You'll have to do better than this, K-K-K-kaz.

Verno

BAM

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Sep 11, 2003, 1:57:06 AM9/11/03
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Fuck off slope.

"Kaz" <kaz...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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PJ

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Sep 11, 2003, 2:48:28 AM9/11/03
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<vernon...@oyama.ca> wrote in message
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> In article <44dc0a26.03091...@posting.google.com>, kaz762
> @hotmail.com stirred up shit pointlessly, saying:
> > >
> Says who?
>
> You'll have to do better than this, K-K-K-kaz.
>
> Verno

Guys,

Can we please just ignore the troll? Let it bark for a while and it will get
bored and leave.
We're just encouraging it we keep reacting to it's post.

Pete.


Sean

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Sep 11, 2003, 2:49:23 AM9/11/03
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Kaz wrote:
>
> The Japanese government should ban the Japanese citizen's visits to
> New Zealand. Those albinic-skinned egoistic, arrogant and impudent
> world's worst racists in the nasty fartland down under are extremely
> aggressive to the innocent Japanese tourists.

Guess what Kaz, when Japanese forces aggressively invaded other Asian
countries in WW2 they strutted around in the most arrogant, impudent
and racist way you can imagine. Other Asians were treated like dirt
beneath the Japanese boots. China, Philippines, Indonesia, it was the
same all over. Of course that didn't stop your troops from kidnapping
innocent teenage girls from those countries as "comfort women".

Your wartime government intended to visit New Zealand, all right.
But first they had to visit Australia. In fact, Japanese planes
did visit Darwin. There would have been more Japanese visitors
in Australia if they hadn't been stopped at the Coral Sea.

geopelia

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Sep 11, 2003, 8:14:40 AM9/11/03
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"Sean" <no....@no.spam> wrote in message news:3F601D0D...@no.spam...

Don't blame the young Japanese today for what their country did in the war.
Just make sure, for your children's sake, that it is never forgotten.
Geopelia


Sean

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Sep 11, 2003, 9:15:45 AM9/11/03
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geopelia wrote:

> Don't blame the young Japanese today for what their country did in the war.

In which part of my post did I blame young Japanese today?

Sean

Raymond Luxury-Yacht II

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Sep 11, 2003, 9:39:30 AM9/11/03
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The citizens of New Zealand would certainly be very happy to learn the
News about "Japan to ban visit to New Zealand" especially the all
women.

Kaz

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Sep 11, 2003, 9:53:34 AM9/11/03
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"Sean" <no....@no.spam> wrote in message news:3F601D0D...@no.spam...
> Kaz wrote:
> >
> > The Japanese government should ban the Japanese citizen's visits to
> > New Zealand. Those albinic-skinned egoistic, arrogant and impudent
> > world's worst racists in the nasty fartland down under are extremely
> > aggressive to the innocent Japanese tourists.
>
> Guess what Kaz, when Japanese forces aggressively invaded other Asian
> countries in WW2 they strutted around in the most arrogant, impudent
> and racist way you can imagine. Other Asians were treated like dirt
> beneath the Japanese boots. China, Philippines, Indonesia, it was the

You are a liar, or a fool who has been brainwashed into the nasty
albino-supremacists propaganda that cowardly tries to justify their
brutal colonialist's acts against Asians. What the hell is your
problem claiming such silly nonsense? The purpose of the Japanese was
to release Asia from the nasty albinic-skinned colonialist apes that
had been abusing Asians, then to make it independent to be proud of
Asian civilization and being Asians. Japan had modernized Korea. If
Japan didn't annex Korea, it would have been the prey of the nasty
albino-colonialist apes propagandizing such silly conspiracy to
justify their shameless brutal acts like you. Shame on you.

> same all over. Of course that didn't stop your troops from kidnapping
> innocent teenage girls from those countries as "comfort women".

"Comfort women" is an exaggerated story made by some brainwashed
anti-Japan Korean who doesn't know how Korea before the annexation
was. Probably it's also a conspiracy backed up by some
albino-supremacists trying to cook up as if Japan was really guilty,
to ruin Japan or something.

> Your wartime government intended to visit New Zealand, all right.
> But first they had to visit Australia. In fact, Japanese planes
> did visit Darwin. There would have been more Japanese visitors
> in Australia if they hadn't been stopped at the Coral Sea.

Don't try to deny your atrocities. Get the islands back to Maoris, you
son of slavers and colonialists.

Kaz

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Sep 11, 2003, 10:18:36 AM9/11/03
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"Sean" <no....@no.spam> wrote in message news:3F601D0D...@no.spam...

> Guess what Kaz, when Japanese forces aggressively invaded other Asian

> countries in WW2 they strutted around in the most arrogant, impudent
> and racist way you can imagine.

Also, are you trying to deny the fact that albino colonialists had
raped, slaughtered, enslaved and colonized Asia? Are you really trying
to deny as if you colonialists didn't rob the islands from Maoris? If
so, that's ridiculous.

All the causes of the conflicts were you albino colonialist's unjust
and egoistic invasion to get prosperity out of Asia. You should be
aware of that.

Sean

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Sep 11, 2003, 10:47:51 AM9/11/03
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Kaz wrote:

> Get the islands back to Maoris, you son of slavers and colonialists.

Why don't you Japanese evacuate the islands and give them back
to the original inhabitants, the Jomo and the Ainu, who had been there
for thousands of years before you ever showed up (around 400 BC).

Sean

Kaz

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Sep 11, 2003, 10:47:51 AM9/11/03
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"geopelia" <phil...@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message
news:gEZ7b.144336$JA5.3...@news.xtra.co.nz...

> Don't blame the young Japanese today for what their country did in the
war.

> Just make sure, for your children's sake, that it is never forgotten.

Translation:

Just make sure, for albino-colonialist's cowardly conspiracy of
covering up the facts of invading, raping Asians, slaughtering Maoris
and robbing the islands from Maoris.

Musashi

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Sep 11, 2003, 11:02:23 AM9/11/03
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"Kaz" <kaz...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> The Japanese government should ban the Japanese citizen's visits to
> New Zealand. Those albinic-skinned egoistic, arrogant and impudent
> world's worst racists in the nasty fartland down under are extremely
> aggressive to the innocent Japanese tourists.
>

Kaz..why are you on this babbling rampage against New Zealanders?
This makes no sense whatsoever.

vernon...@oyama.ca

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Sep 11, 2003, 11:53:50 AM9/11/03
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In article <44dc0a26.03091...@posting.google.com>, K-K-K-kaz,
the ultranationalist racist, is at it again, when he writes:
says...

> "Sean" <no....@no.spam> wrote in message news:3F601D0D...@no.spam...
> > Kaz wrote:
> > >
> > > The Japanese government should ban the Japanese citizen's visits to
> > > New Zealand. Those albinic-skinned egoistic, arrogant and impudent
> > > world's worst racists in the nasty fartland down under are extremely
> > > aggressive to the innocent Japanese tourists.
> >
> > Guess what Kaz, when Japanese forces aggressively invaded other Asian
> > countries in WW2 they strutted around in the most arrogant, impudent
> > and racist way you can imagine. Other Asians were treated like dirt
> > beneath the Japanese boots. China, Philippines, Indonesia, it was the
>
> You are a liar, or a fool who has been brainwashed into the nasty
> albino-supremacists propaganda that cowardly tries to justify their
> brutal colonialist's acts against Asians. What the hell is your
> problem claiming such silly nonsense?

Uh, maybe he let facts get in the way of racist ranting??? ;-)

> The purpose of the Japanese was
> to release Asia from the nasty albinic-skinned colonialist apes that
> had been abusing Asians, then to make it independent to be proud of
> Asian civilization and being Asians.

Were the Japanese invited? No? Then it was an INVASION. No matter
what you think.

Did the Koreans, Chinese, Philippinos, and Indonesians appreciate
Japan's "help"? If you think so, where is the evidence that the people
of these countries felt "released"? Post links or admit you are wrong.

Japan "released" Korea, China, the Philippines and Indonesia in the same
way that Nazi Germany "released" Poland, Austria, Holland,
Czechoslovakia and Hungary.

>
> "Comfort women" is an exaggerated story made by some brainwashed
> anti-Japan Korean who doesn't know how Korea before the annexation
> was. Probably it's also a conspiracy backed up by some
> albino-supremacists trying to cook up as if Japan was really guilty,
> to ruin Japan or something.

Holocaust deniers use similar "arguments" to claim that stories of mass
extermination of Jews are nothing but exaggeration and conspiracy.
You're creating quite a reputation for yourself, K-K-K-kaz.

>
> > Your wartime government intended to visit New Zealand, all right.
> > But first they had to visit Australia. In fact, Japanese planes
> > did visit Darwin. There would have been more Japanese visitors
> > in Australia if they hadn't been stopped at the Coral Sea.
>
> Don't try to deny your atrocities. Get the islands back to Maoris, you
> son of slavers and colonialists.
>

Will you be giving Japan back to the Ainu?


Verno

vernon...@oyama.ca

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Sep 11, 2003, 11:58:00 AM9/11/03
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@hotmail.com says...

> "Sean" <no....@no.spam> wrote in message news:3F601D0D...@no.spam...
>
> > Guess what Kaz, when Japanese forces aggressively invaded other Asian
> > countries in WW2 they strutted around in the most arrogant, impudent
> > and racist way you can imagine.
>
> Also, are you trying to deny the fact that albino colonialists had
> raped, slaughtered, enslaved and colonized Asia? Are you really trying
> to deny as if you colonialists didn't rob the islands from Maoris? If
> so, that's ridiculous.

Are you trying to avoid admitting that Japan INVADED Asian countries
prior to WWII, uninvited, and that they were NOT welcomed by the
rightful owners of these countries?


>
> All the causes of the conflicts were you albino colonialist's unjust
> and egoistic invasion to get prosperity out of Asia. You should be
> aware of that.
>

Sure, that's as intelligent as the kid who, when he is arrested for
assault, claims it was the victims fault because "I didn't like his
face".

You don't like white faces, do you K-K-K-kaz? Or perhaps you like them
too much, and your racism is due to self-loathing.

Verno

vernon...@oyama.ca

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Sep 11, 2003, 11:58:51 AM9/11/03
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In article <3808b.822$Le3...@newssvr32.news.prodigy.com>,
Miya...@Hosokawa.co.jp says...
They are white. He is not. He wishes he were.

verno

Luthien

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Kaz

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Sep 11, 2003, 1:55:18 PM9/11/03
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<vernon...@oyama.ca> wrote in message news:MPG.19ca3b8ce...@shawnews.vc.shawcable.net...

> In article <44dc0a26.03091...@posting.google.com>, kaz762
> @hotmail.com says...
> > "Sean" <no....@no.spam> wrote in message news:3F601D0D...@no.spam...
> >
> > > Guess what Kaz, when Japanese forces aggressively invaded other Asian
> > > countries in WW2 they strutted around in the most arrogant, impudent
> > > and racist way you can imagine.
> >
> > Also, are you trying to deny the fact that albino colonialists had
> > raped, slaughtered, enslaved and colonized Asia? Are you really trying
> > to deny as if you colonialists didn't rob the islands from Maoris? If
> > so, that's ridiculous.
>
> Are you trying to avoid admitting that Japan INVADED Asian countries
> prior to WWII, uninvited, and that they were NOT welcomed by the
> rightful owners of these countries?

WHAT??? Are you retarded albino-supremacists even trying to distort it
as if Japan tried to invade Asia? You are really dumb dirty albino
that has been taught awfully distorted story, or trying to deny your
dirty atrocities. Of course, Japan went to there to kick out those
nasty ugly brutal albino-colonialists like you dumb racist, expect
China. China was Japan's enemy. And Korea was under Japanese
protection. You should know that Indonesia still respects the Japanese
military that had incited and helped Indonesians fight to be
independent from ugly Dutch. You ugly White supremacist believing such
distorted story should be really ashamed. You are merely a Nazi,
Vernon. Always trying to distort it to some respectable way of White
supremacists. Shame on you.

<Canadian Nazi's crap snipped>

Kaz

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Sep 11, 2003, 2:07:10 PM9/11/03
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<vernon...@oyama.ca> wrote in message news:MPG.19ca3a941...@shawnews.vc.shawcable.net...

> In article <44dc0a26.03091...@posting.google.com>, K-K-K-kaz,
> the ultranationalist racist, is at it again, when he writes:
> says...
> > "Sean" <no....@no.spam> wrote in message news:3F601D0D...@no.spam...
> > > Kaz wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The Japanese government should ban the Japanese citizen's visits to
> > > > New Zealand. Those albinic-skinned egoistic, arrogant and impudent
> > > > world's worst racists in the nasty fartland down under are extremely
> > > > aggressive to the innocent Japanese tourists.
> > >
> > > Guess what Kaz, when Japanese forces aggressively invaded other Asian
> > > countries in WW2 they strutted around in the most arrogant, impudent
> > > and racist way you can imagine. Other Asians were treated like dirt
> > > beneath the Japanese boots. China, Philippines, Indonesia, it was the
> >
> > You are a liar, or a fool who has been brainwashed into the nasty
> > albino-supremacists propaganda that cowardly tries to justify their
> > brutal colonialist's acts against Asians. What the hell is your
> > problem claiming such silly nonsense?
>
> Uh, maybe he let facts get in the way of racist ranting??? ;-)
>
> > The purpose of the Japanese was
> > to release Asia from the nasty albinic-skinned colonialist apes that
> > had been abusing Asians, then to make it independent to be proud of
> > Asian civilization and being Asians.
>
> Were the Japanese invited? No? Then it was an INVASION. No matter
> what you think.
>
> Did the Koreans, Chinese, Philippinos, and Indonesians appreciate
> Japan's "help"? If you think so, where is the evidence that the people
> of these countries felt "released"? Post links or admit you are wrong.

At least Indonesians are appreciating it. Also many Koreans and many
Taiwanese, idiot. Find some site about Indonesian independence or
something by your self, racist.

> Japan "released" Korea, China, the Philippines and Indonesia in the same
> way that Nazi Germany "released" Poland, Austria, Holland,
> Czechoslovakia and Hungary.

White supremacist Nazi Germany is the same as goddam racist country as
Canada, idiot. The Japanese are not any White and you are the gaddam
White supremacist that belongs to Nazi, idiot.

> >
> > "Comfort women" is an exaggerated story made by some brainwashed
> > anti-Japan Korean who doesn't know how Korea before the annexation
> > was. Probably it's also a conspiracy backed up by some
> > albino-supremacists trying to cook up as if Japan was really guilty,
> > to ruin Japan or something.
>

> Holocaust deniers use similar "arguments" to claim that stories of mass
> extermination of Jews are nothing but exaggeration and conspiracy.
> You're creating quite a reputation for yourself, K-K-K-kaz.

You are the goddam Canadian Nazi white supremacist denying the
holocaust against the Japanese by nukes.

<holocaust denier's crap snipped>

vernon...@oyama.ca

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Sep 11, 2003, 2:12:15 PM9/11/03
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In article <44dc0a26.03091...@posting.google.com>, kaz762
@hotmail.com says...
> <vernon...@oyama.ca> wrote in message news:MPG.19ca3b8ce...@shawnews.vc.shawcable.net...
> > In article <44dc0a26.03091...@posting.google.com>, kaz762
> > @hotmail.com says...
> > > "Sean" <no....@no.spam> wrote in message news:3F601D0D...@no.spam...
> > >
> > > > Guess what Kaz, when Japanese forces aggressively invaded other Asian
> > > > countries in WW2 they strutted around in the most arrogant, impudent
> > > > and racist way you can imagine.
> > >
> > > Also, are you trying to deny the fact that albino colonialists had
> > > raped, slaughtered, enslaved and colonized Asia? Are you really trying
> > > to deny as if you colonialists didn't rob the islands from Maoris? If
> > > so, that's ridiculous.
> >
> > Are you trying to avoid admitting that Japan INVADED Asian countries
> > prior to WWII, uninvited, and that they were NOT welcomed by the
> > rightful owners of these countries?
>
> WHAT??? Are you retarded albino-supremacists even trying to distort it
> as if Japan tried to invade Asia?


I think you can settle this once and for all. Just answer these
questions:

1. Was Japan invited by the legitimate governments of Korea, China,
Indonesia or the Philippines to occupy any of their territory?

2. Did Japan use force to enter these countries?

3. Was there armed resistance to Japan's entry into these countries?

> You are really dumb dirty albino

Tsk, tsk. Another racist comment from K-K-K-kaz! Quel surprise! Your
racist beliefs are showing.

> that has been taught awfully distorted story, or trying to deny your
> dirty atrocities.

My atrocities? What atrocities have I committed??? What atrocities did
Canada's commit in Asia before WWII??? Or are you blaming all whites
for what the Dutch did in Indonesia? More racist stereotyping, K-K-K-
kaz???

> Of course, Japan went to there to kick out those
> nasty ugly brutal albino-colonialists like you dumb racist

Settle this now. Answer the questions:

1. Was Japan invited by the legitimate governments of Korea, China,
Indonesia or the Philippines to occupy any of their territory?

2. Did Japan use force to enter these countries?

3. Was there armed resistance to Japan's entry into these countries?

> expect
> China. China was Japan's enemy.

So, you admit that Japan invaded China. A good start.

> And Korea was under Japanese
> protection.

Settle this now. Answer the questions:

1. Was Japan invited by the legitimate governments of Korea, China,
Indonesia or the Philippines to occupy any of their territory?

2. Did Japan use force to enter these countries?

3. Was there armed resistance to Japan's entry into these countries?


> You should know that Indonesia still respects the Japanese
> military that had incited and helped Indonesians fight to be
> independent from ugly Dutch.

Spin, spin, spin.

Settle this now. Answer the questions:

1. Was Japan invited by the legitimate governments of Korea, China,
Indonesia or the Philippines to occupy any of their territory?

2. Did Japan use force to enter these countries?

3. Was there armed resistance to Japan's entry into these countries?

> You ugly White supremacist believing such
> distorted story should be really ashamed. You are merely a Nazi,
> Vernon. Always trying to distort it to some respectable way of White
> supremacists. Shame on you.
>

Settle this now. Answer the questions:

1. Was Japan invited by the legitimate governments of Korea, China,
Indonesia or the Philippines to occupy any of their territory?

2. Did Japan use force to enter these countries?

3. Was there armed resistance to Japan's entry into these countries?

Verno

Sean

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Sep 11, 2003, 2:19:36 PM9/11/03
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vernon...@oyama.ca wrote:

> Will you be giving Japan back to the Ainu?

Have you noticed how Kaz shuts up like a clam when someone asks
that question.

Sean

Kaz

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Sep 11, 2003, 2:21:12 PM9/11/03
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<vernon...@oyama.ca> wrote in message news:MPG.19ca3bbf...@shawnews.vc.shawcable.net...

> In article <3808b.822$Le3...@newssvr32.news.prodigy.com>,
> Miya...@Hosokawa.co.jp says...
> >
> > "Kaz" <kaz...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:44dc0a26.03091...@posting.google.com...
> > > The Japanese government should ban the Japanese citizen's visits to
> > > New Zealand. Those albinic-skinned egoistic, arrogant and impudent
> > > world's worst racists in the nasty fartland down under are extremely
> > > aggressive to the innocent Japanese tourists.
> > >
> >
> > Kaz..why are you on this babbling rampage against New Zealanders?
> > This makes no sense whatsoever.

why? because those nasty racist apes in New Fartland are the worst
assholes always bitching to us as well as dumb retarded white
supremacist canadians do.

> They are white. He is not. He wishes he were.

They are white but white-niggers(in your word) that bitch to us like
Canadians(also white-niggers in your word) do. And no one wants to be
such nasty albino-niggers, you sick self-conscious white supremacist.

Kaz

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Sep 11, 2003, 2:33:05 PM9/11/03
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<vernon...@oyama.ca> wrote in message news:MPG.19ca5b04f...@shawnews.vc.shawcable.net...

> In article <44dc0a26.03091...@posting.google.com>, kaz762
> @hotmail.com says...
> > <vernon...@oyama.ca> wrote in message news:MPG.19ca3b8ce...@shawnews.vc.shawcable.net...
> > > In article <44dc0a26.03091...@posting.google.com>, kaz762
> > > @hotmail.com says...
> > > > "Sean" <no....@no.spam> wrote in message news:3F601D0D...@no.spam...
> > > >
> > > > > Guess what Kaz, when Japanese forces aggressively invaded other Asian
> > > > > countries in WW2 they strutted around in the most arrogant, impudent
> > > > > and racist way you can imagine.
> > > >
> > > > Also, are you trying to deny the fact that albino colonialists had
> > > > raped, slaughtered, enslaved and colonized Asia? Are you really trying
> > > > to deny as if you colonialists didn't rob the islands from Maoris? If
> > > > so, that's ridiculous.
> > >
> > > Are you trying to avoid admitting that Japan INVADED Asian countries
> > > prior to WWII, uninvited, and that they were NOT welcomed by the
> > > rightful owners of these countries?
> >
> > WHAT??? Are you retarded albino-supremacists even trying to distort it
> > as if Japan tried to invade Asia?
>
>
> I think you can settle this once and for all. Just answer these
> questions:
>
> 1. Was Japan invited by the legitimate governments of Korea, China,
> Indonesia or the Philippines to occupy any of their territory?

What a stupid you are. Korea didn't have any modern government at that
time and then they agreed to be annexed to Japan to get Japanese
protection to protect from western colonialists. China was
enemy......how did we need any agree with China? And those Philippines
and Indonesia were White supremacist's colony already, and there were
no their own government. How could we ever get any agreement from
them? You are incoherent.

now, I'm going to sleep. It's 3:30 am now, I'll talk to you later
about the rest.

Musashi

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Sep 11, 2003, 2:49:01 PM9/11/03
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"Kaz" <kaz...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> <vernon...@oyama.ca> wrote in message
news:MPG.19ca3bbf...@shawnews.vc.shawcable.net...
> > In article <3808b.822$Le3...@newssvr32.news.prodigy.com>,
> > Miya...@Hosokawa.co.jp says...
> > >
> > > "Kaz" <kaz...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:44dc0a26.03091...@posting.google.com...
> > > > The Japanese government should ban the Japanese citizen's visits to
> > > > New Zealand. Those albinic-skinned egoistic, arrogant and impudent
> > > > world's worst racists in the nasty fartland down under are extremely
> > > > aggressive to the innocent Japanese tourists.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Kaz..why are you on this babbling rampage against New Zealanders?
> > > This makes no sense whatsoever.
>
> why? because those nasty racist apes in New Fartland are the worst
> assholes always bitching to us as well as dumb retarded white
> supremacist canadians do.
>

I am not aware of New Zealanders being any more or any less racists than any
other
ethnic or national group. The same applies to Canadians.


vernon...@oyama.ca

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Who said anything about "modern" government?


Answer the questions:

1. Was Japan invited by the legitimate governments of Korea, China,
Indonesia or the Philippines to occupy any of their territory?

2. Were there people already occupying the land they invaded?

3. Was this land already occupied by Japan using peaceful means, without
military threats? Was it governed by Japan?

4. Did Japan use force to enter these countries?

5. Was there armed resistance to Japan's entry into these countries?

> China was
> enemy......how did we need any agree with China?

Usually, when a country decided to invade the territory of their enemy,
it is called a "WAR". So Japan started the WAR.

> And those Philippines
> and Indonesia were White supremacist's colony already, and there were
> no their own government.

Are you saying that since they didn't have a government the territory
belonged to nobody, and Japan could move in and take it? Usually, when
a country decided to invade territory that is not part of their country,
it is called a "WAR". So Japan started the WAR.

> How could we ever get any agreement from
> them? You are incoherent.

I am incoherent? ROTFLMAO! You are a complete idiot!

>
> now, I'm going to sleep. It's 3:30 am now, I'll talk to you later
> about the rest.
>

Yes, please do. I'm particularly interested in your answers to all 3
qustions:

1. Was Japan invited by the legitimate governments of Korea, China,
Indonesia or the Philippines to occupy any of their territory?

2. Were there people already occupying the land they invaded?

3. Was this land already occupied by Japan using peaceful means, without
military threats? Was it governed by Japan?

4. Did Japan use force to enter these countries?

5. Was there armed resistance to Japan's entry into these countries?


Verno

vernon...@oyama.ca

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In article <44dc0a26.0309...@posting.google.com>, kaz762
@hotmail.com says...

> <vernon...@oyama.ca> wrote in message news:MPG.19ca3bbf...@shawnews.vc.shawcable.net...
> > In article <3808b.822$Le3...@newssvr32.news.prodigy.com>,
> > Miya...@Hosokawa.co.jp says...
> > >
> > > "Kaz" <kaz...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:44dc0a26.03091...@posting.google.com...
> > > > The Japanese government should ban the Japanese citizen's visits to
> > > > New Zealand. Those albinic-skinned egoistic, arrogant and impudent
> > > > world's worst racists in the nasty fartland down under are extremely
> > > > aggressive to the innocent Japanese tourists.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Kaz..why are you on this babbling rampage against New Zealanders?
> > > This makes no sense whatsoever.
>
> why? because those nasty racist apes in New Fartland are the worst
> assholes always bitching to us as well as dumb retarded white
> supremacist canadians do.
>
> > They are white. He is not. He wishes he were.
>
> They are white but white-niggers(in your word)

Wrong. I have never called anyone a "nigger" of any kind. You lie . .
. again.

> that bitch to us like
> Canadians(also white-niggers in your word) do. And no one wants to be
> such nasty albino-niggers, you sick self-conscious white supremacist.
>

Don't lie.

You are secretly humiliated by Japan's defeat in WWII and its economic
troubles of the past decade. You were probably among those who thought
Japan's economic rise of the 50's through '80's would go on forever
because Japanese are superior. Now, you've found out this isn't true.
And like most people who cling to irrational beliefs in racial
superiority, when the myth of superiority evaporates, all you have lleft
is a feeling of inferiority, accompanied by bitterness and hate.

Yes, K-K-K-kaz, that's your pathology!

You can break the cycle! You can stop feeling inferior because of your
race! (Sorry, I can't help you with your feelings of inferiority
because of your stupidity--you own that!) There is no rational basis
for racial superiority or inferiority--no superior race, and no inferior
race! You can stop feeling bad about being Japanese. And you can stop
hating other races. It's irrational. Treat every person like an
individual. No stereotyping!

You can be free! Ask me how.

Verno

gblack

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"Kaz" <kaz...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:44dc0a26.03091...@posting.google.com...
: The Japanese government should ban the Japanese citizen's visits to
: New Zealand. Those albinic-skinned egoistic, arrogant and impudent
: world's worst racists in the nasty fartland down under are extremely
: aggressive to the innocent Japanese tourists.

More racist rant...
As the Japanese tourist numbers increase


gblack

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--


"Musashi" <Miya...@Hosokawa.co.jp> wrote in message
news:xs38b.1308$k66...@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com...
:
: "Kaz" <kaz...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

:
Thank you . We're not :-))
However this Kaz thing seems to be a racist of the worst sort and so
far into denial he doesn't think that it's a river in Egypt


Musashi

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"gblack" <gbl...@hnpl.net> wrote in message
news:bjqljm$unv$1...@aklobs.kc.net.nz...

Please note that this person Kaz and his views and opinions in no way
reflect how "normal average people"
in Japan think.
As far as I know Japan maintains good relations with New Zealand and
vice-versa, so I have no idea
why this thread even exists.


Sean

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Kaz wrote:
>
> The Japanese government should ban the Japanese citizen's visits to
> New Zealand. Those albinic-skinned egoistic, arrogant and impudent
> world's worst racists

I think you must be Tojo's grandson.

Sean

geopelia

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"Sean" <no....@no.spam> wrote in message news:3F60779C...@no.spam...

Sorry, you didn't yourself. Many people do.

Geopelia


geopelia

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<vernon...@oyama.ca> wrote in message
news:MPG.19ca66e3...@shawnews.vc.shawcable.net...


It is culture, not race, that is the cause of so many problems. We should
share our wonderful Western heritage with the rest of the world, and try to
learn from theirs.

We Anglo-Saxons may have our faults, but on the whole we have done a pretty
good job for the rest of humanity.
If "whites" become extinct, probably through intermarriage, (and in a world
of increasing food shortages, ozone depletion and global warming large
blue-eyed blondes would have certain disadvantages), our culture will live
on for the benefit of mankind.

Geopelia


Luthien

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LOL!

vernon...@oyama.ca

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In article <cf68b.144696$JA5.3...@news.xtra.co.nz>,
phil...@xtra.co.nz says...

Agree. Too bad Kaz doesn't understand that a "Japanese" face does not
mean a Japanese soul. He wants all Japanese to be like him. I think he
has an identity problem.

> We Anglo-Saxons may have our faults, but on the whole we have done a pretty
> good job for the rest of humanity.

I wouldn't be so quick to assume credit for what other Anglo-Saxons have
done. The only "job" I've done is my own. No one should take credit
for good things done by others of their race/country/hair color or any
other descriptor -- unless they helped. And no one should be criticized
for bad things done by others in their "group" unless they could have
helped to stop it, but didn't.

Getting everyone to understand individual identity and responsibility
would completely eliminate chauvinism and racism. Wouldn't that be
great!

Verno

gblack

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--


"Musashi" <Miya...@Hosokawa.co.jp> wrote in message

news:og58b.5755$Zl6....@newssvr16.news.prodigy.com...
:
: Please note that this person Kaz and his views and opinions in no


way
: reflect how "normal average people"
: in Japan think.
: As far as I know Japan maintains good relations with New Zealand and
: vice-versa, so I have no idea
: why this thread even exists.

Well I suppose the crazies have to be somewhere... things like Kaz
are sad lonely creatures ever envious of any-one with a life....


Kaz

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"Musashi" <Miya...@Hosokawa.co.jp> wrote in message news:<xs38b.1308$k66...@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com>...

Are you sure that you are the Japanese? Every decent Japanese know
that New Fartland and the retarded Canada are the worst racist ape's
countries that despise the Japanese and Asians extremely. They are
never trustworthy like Vernon and don't trust them. Those classic
colonialist apes are merely want to gain Japanese yen then they are
pretending as if they are not racists.

Kaz

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"Musashi" <Miya...@Hosokawa.co.jp> wrote in message news:<og58b.5755$Zl6....@newssvr16.news.prodigy.com>...

I might be agresssive to them but I'm sure that the most of the normal
average Japanese don't like the nasty racists of New Zealanders and
Canadians.

> As far as I know Japan maintains good relations with New Zealand and
> vice-versa, so I have no idea
> why this thread even exists.

No, you should know that even the most of New Zealanders hate the
Japanese and relation between this country and the apeland is not
maintaining any good relations. AFAIK, there is even no diplomatic
relation with the raicist's islands dawn under until a few decades
ago.

Kaz

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"gblack" <gbl...@hnpl.net> wrote in message news:<bjqljm$unv$1...@aklobs.kc.net.nz>...

Shameles liar!

> However this Kaz thing seems to be a racist of the worst sort and so
> far into denial he doesn't think that it's a river in Egypt

No one in the northern hemisphere could be any worse racist than those
albino apes down under.

Brian Sandle

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> --

I think it is a misunderstanding.

Japan is a society with rather low crime. I remember a film with the
children in Japan going off to the evening classes on bicycles in the big
city. Whereas we used to be rather crime free in New Zealand that is not
so now. Everyone has to be careful, whoever they are.

vernon...@oyama.ca

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> "Musashi" <Miya...@Hosokawa.co.jp> wrote in message news:<xs38b.1308$k66...@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com>...
> > "Kaz" <kaz...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:44dc0a26.0309...@posting.google.com...
> > > <vernon...@oyama.ca> wrote in message
> > news:MPG.19ca3bbf...@shawnews.vc.shawcable.net...
> > > > In article <3808b.822$Le3...@newssvr32.news.prodigy.com>,
> > > > Miya...@Hosokawa.co.jp says...
> > > > >
> > > > > "Kaz" <kaz...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:44dc0a26.03091...@posting.google.com...
> > > > > > The Japanese government should ban the Japanese citizen's visits to
> > > > > > New Zealand. Those albinic-skinned egoistic, arrogant and impudent
> > > > > > world's worst racists in the nasty fartland down under are extremely
> > > > > > aggressive to the innocent Japanese tourists.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Kaz..why are you on this babbling rampage against New Zealanders?
> > > > > This makes no sense whatsoever.
> > >
> > > why? because those nasty racist apes in New Fartland are the worst
> > > assholes always bitching to us as well as dumb retarded white
> > > supremacist canadians do.
> > >
> >
> > I am not aware of New Zealanders being any more or any less racists than any
> > other
> > ethnic or national group. The same applies to Canadians.
>
> Are you sure that you are the Japanese? Every decent Japanese know
> that New Fartland and the retarded Canada are the worst racist ape's
> countries that despise the Japanese and Asians extremely.

Setting yourself up as the arbiter of what's "decent" for Japanese?
ROTLMAO!

You would have all Japanese behave like you--xenophobic racists!

Why? Because you are afraid Japan will be assimilated into the Western
world. That's why you hate Japanese whom you digustingly refer to as
"Tokyojaps" and "honorary Whites". They are not like you. They are
smarter, more worldly and more sophisticated. They have FUN!

> They are
> never trustworthy like Vernon and don't trust them. Those classic
> colonialist apes are merely want to gain Japanese yen then they are
> pretending as if they are not racists.
>

Thanks, but I don't need any Japanese yen.

I'm finally beginning to understand you, K-K-K-kaz. You are one of
those unfortunate Japanese who feels diminished because he was born into
a nation that started, then lost, a major war. It must have been
painful growing up in a once-proud country that was brought to her knees
by an "inferior" western nation with no culture and no history.

Yet, Japan's economic boom from the mid-50s through to the late 80s gave
you hope! Maybe you could finally defeat those Americans in ECONOMIC
warfare! You could show them! Amass so much money that you could BUY
UP America! It was soooooooo close! You were beginning to feel
vindicated! Then, Japan's economic troubles began. The feelings of
superiority which you had developed during the 80s began to ebb away,
replaced by a chilling and hollow self-doubt. Surely, the recession
will end soon, you told yourself!

But no, it did not end. Japanese are NOT superior. You are like every
other nation. Even the hated Chinese are overcoming you economically!
Look at the excitement and growing prosperity in China! How do they do
it? You always looked down on them as primitives, but now you see they
are equal to you!

And that makes you feel diminished, because you once looked upon
caucasians and Chinese as your inferiors. Now, you are just like them.
No better.

I know it's a bitter pill to swallow, K-K-K-kaz. But there's a
solution! The honourable way out of humiliation! You know what it is,
K-K-K-kaz! It's sepu-k-k-k-u!

But there's also a rational way out. Stop being a racist. Accept that
the races are equal. Stop making racist comments. Begin to judge
people on the basis of their behaviour, not on the basis of stereotypes.

You can stop this terrible feeling.

verno

Kaz

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<vernon...@oyama.ca> wrote in message news:<MPG.19ca6428...@shawnews.vc.shawcable.net>...

Korea's Li Dynasty that had been existed before its annexation to
Japan was a dependency of the ugly ethnocentric Han-Chinese Empire.
Korea needed to be open and modernized to kick out those evil
White-supremacist's invasion and the Han-Chinaman-supremacists. Then
both the Koreans and the Japanese agreed to the annexation of Korea to
be a part of Japan, as "Korea state of Japan". Korea was dramatically
modernized after many Japanese investments were layed out for building
factories, condition its soil for decent agriculture, railroads for
infrastructure, modern education system to educate people, etc.

Korea before the annexation was like this:
http://bbs.enjoykorea.naver.co.jp/jaction/read.php?id=enjoyjapan_8&nid=511772&work=list&st=&sw=&cp=1

These are the pictures taken by a British woman traveling there in the
late 19th century. You will see the pictures of Nam Dai Mon(south
gate) of before the annexation(upper) and after the annexation(lower).
Do you see how it diametrically changed by Japanese investments? Many
Koreans, especially those Koreans in North America even don't know
those facts that how Japan had contributed Korea's modernization, then
fooled and brainwashed by White supremacists like you trying to abuse
and ruin Japan and the Japanese, then bitch to us with you.

And you White supremacists nuked Japan and then created such wild
bastards like North Korean to fuck up Korea and Japan again. Shame on
you.
Anyway, why do you hate us so much? Is that because you are ugly
albinic apes?

mtfe...@netscape.net

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In soc.culture.japan Monkey-boy <kaz...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "Musashi" <Miya...@Hosokawa.co.jp> wrote in message news:<og58b.5755$Zl6....@newssvr16.news.prodigy.com>...

> I might be agresssive to them but

that's only natural to monkeys when they see bigger, more dominant males
who can't get at them.

Mike

mtfe...@netscape.net

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In soc.culture.japan Monkey-boy <kaz...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> <vernon...@oyama.ca> wrote in message news:<MPG.19ca6428...@shawnews.vc.shawcable.net>...
>> In article <44dc0a26.03091...@posting.google.com>, kaz762
>> @hotmail.com says...
>> > <vernon...@oyama.ca> wrote in message news:MPG.19ca5b04f...@shawnews.vc.shawcable.net...
>> > > In article <44dc0a26.03091...@posting.google.com>, kaz762
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Guess what Monkey-boy, when Japanese forces aggressively invaded other Asian
>> > > > > > > countries in WW2 they strutted around in the most arrogant, impudent
>> > > 1. Was Japan invited by the legitimate governments of Korea, China,
>> > > Indonesia or the Philippines to occupy any of their territory?
>> >
>> > What a stupid you are. Korea didn't have any modern government at that
>> > time and then they agreed to be annexed to Japan to get Japanese
>> > protection to protect from western colonialists.
>>
>> Who said anything about "modern" government?

> Korea's Li Dynasty that had been existed before its annexation to
> Japan was a dependency of the ugly ethnocentric Han-Chinese Empire.

Wrong again, Monkey-boy; they were a "tributory state". They got more
money than they paid in tribute to the Chinese.

> Korea needed to be open and modernized to kick out those evil
> White-supremacist's invasion and the Han-Chinaman-supremacists. Then

Wrong again, Monkey-boy; Chinese aren't white. Look in the mirror.

Mike

ugly duckling

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"Kaz" <kaz...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> Korea's Li Dynasty that had been existed before its annexation to
> Japan was a dependency of the ugly ethnocentric Han-Chinese Empire.
> Korea needed to be open and modernized to kick out those evil
> White-supremacist's invasion and the Han-Chinaman-supremacists.

Chosun was extremely pro-China. This is when Koreans started
developing this hatred toward Japanese. It is interesting to note
that advocating anything Chinese always leads to despise any others.

And this was the time when Korean cultural progress went backward.

The Yangbans (ruling class) did not care about the commonwealth
of these commoners (in the pictures). All they did was to suck up
commoners' blood like a Vampire.

And honestly, I cannot blame Japan for annexation. I think it was
God's punishment to Yi Dynasty as well as a chastisement to the
Korean people.

> Then
> both the Koreans and the Japanese agreed to the annexation of Korea to
> be a part of Japan, as "Korea state of Japan". Korea was dramatically
> modernized after many Japanese investments were layed out for building
> factories, condition its soil for decent agriculture, railroads for
> infrastructure, modern education system to educate people, etc.


> Korea before the annexation was like this:
>
http://bbs.enjoykorea.naver.co.jp/jaction/read.php?id=enjoyjapan_8&nid=51177
2&work=list&st=&sw=&cp=1
>
> These are the pictures taken by a British woman traveling there in the
> late 19th century. You will see the pictures of Nam Dai Mon(south
> gate) of before the annexation(upper) and after the annexation(lower).

Yes, these were the Korean commoners at that time. They've lost
all the respect for themselves, because the ruling class was so corrupted.

Korean people should realize that things go wrong whenever they
are close to China.

> Do you see how it diametrically changed by Japanese investments? Many
> Koreans, especially those Koreans in North America even don't know
> those facts that how Japan had contributed Korea's modernization, then
> fooled and brainwashed by White supremacists like you trying to abuse
> and ruin Japan and the Japanese, then bitch to us with you.
> And you White supremacists nuked Japan and then created such wild
> bastards like North Korean to fuck up Korea and Japan again. Shame on
> you.

And Chinese people riding on western psychology to show their ugliness
to the whole wide world. This in essence what LT Lee and every other
chinamen are doing when the badmouth Japan so much.

ugly duckling

ugly duckling

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<mtfe...@netscape.net> wrote in message news:...

What Kaz was saying is that Korea at that time was under the pressure of
both
Russia as well as China. The U.S. already had failed at this point, after
trying to
force Korea to open with their guns and cannons.

It is extremely noteworthy that Korea fell into the hands of Japan, instead
of
Russia or other Europeans nations. This has tremendous spiritual
implications.

ugly duckling


mtfe...@netscape.net

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In soc.culture.japan Monkey-boy <kaz...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "Musashi" <Miya...@Hosokawa.co.jp> wrote in message news:<xs38b.1308$k66...@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com>...
>> "Monkey-boy" <kaz...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:44dc0a26.0309...@posting.google.com...
>> > <vernon...@oyama.ca> wrote in message
>> news:MPG.19ca3bbf...@shawnews.vc.shawcable.net...
>> > > In article <3808b.822$Le3...@newssvr32.news.prodigy.com>,
>> > > Miya...@Hosokawa.co.jp says...
>> > > >
>> > > > "Monkey-boy" <kaz...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> > > > news:44dc0a26.03091...@posting.google.com...
>> > > > Monkey-boy..why are you on this babbling rampage against New Zealanders?

>> > > > This makes no sense whatsoever.
>> >
>> I am not aware of New Zealanders being any more or any less racists than any
>> other
>> ethnic or national group. The same applies to Canadians.

> Are you sure that you are the Japanese?

Quick way to find out, Monkey-boy. Post in Japanese and see if he can
respond...

You can even use your tail when typing.

Mike

vernon...@oyama.ca

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Sep 12, 2003, 1:01:12 AM9/12/03
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Uh, Kaz, I hate to break it to you, but you've ducked the questions
again.

Answer them, you lying, squirming, cringing weasel.

1. Was Japan invited by the legitimate governments of Korea, China,
Indonesia or the Philippines to occupy any of their territory?

Kaz's answer is:


-----------------------------------------------------------?

2. Were there people already occupying the land they invaded?

Kaz's answer is:


-----------------------------------------------------------?

3. Was this land already occupied by Japan using peaceful means, without
military threats? Was it governed by Japan?

Kaz's answer is:


-----------------------------------------------------------?

4. Did Japan use force to enter these countries?

Kaz's answer is:


-----------------------------------------------------------?

5. Was there armed resistance to Japan's entry into these countries?

Kaz's answer is:


-----------------------------------------------------------?

Until you answer these questions, you will be nothing more than a
cringing, whining coward. Stand up, Kaz. Be a man.

Verno

ugly duckling

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<vernon...@oyama.ca> wrote in message

> 4. Did Japan use force to enter these countries?

Russia tried this to Korea. Japan OTOH was very diplomatic.
Korea was bound either to be under Japan or under Russia at that time.

It was Russia's best interest to unite all non-Western countries
on the earth under their guidance against the West. And part
of it was to assimilate China and Korea.

Russia failed this dream because of Japan.

> Kaz's answer is:
>
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------?
>
> 5. Was there armed resistance to Japan's entry into these countries?

As for Korea, no, there wasn't. At least for the first 5 years or so.

ugly duckling


Kaz

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"Sean" <no....@no.spam> wrote in message news:3F608D32...@no.spam...
> Kaz wrote:
>
> > Get the islands back to Maoris, you son of slavers and colonialists.
>
> Why don't you Japanese evacuate the islands and give them back
> to the original inhabitants, the Jomo and the Ainu, who had been there
> for thousands of years before you ever showed up (around 400 BC).
>
> Sean

We have been already quite well-assimilated in last 2000 years. The
indigenous Jomon type Japanese such as the Hayato are taking the
regime ever since the Meiji restoration. No more Kinai(Yayoi regime of
Yamato) regime existing in Japan, and no more continental type Kyoto
person is controlling this country. Although Tokugawa shogunate
belonged to the Kinai civilization, it was considered to be Jomon ,so
if I consider those samurai as Jomon, the Jomon have been already
dominating this country for last 400 years or more. And now,
Kinai(Kansai) type Japanese are the minority in this country. The
Hayato are very much like the Maori, they were uncivilized inhabitants
in the Japanese islands until some 1000 years ago, and very strong
people in battles. Anyway, so we don't need to evacuate. If those
Anglo-Saxons would ever evacuate from North American continent then
give the land back to the natives, or if those Anglo-Saxons ever
evacuate from the island of Britain and then give the island back to
the Celts, we may consider about evacuating from our islands.
Ummmm...but we can't already distinguish who is the continental
descendant and who is the indigenous so it would be impossible. We
don't even know where we came from.

Nevertheless, Hayato have been assimilated to us over 1000 years, but
Maori, only some 100 years, so you still have some obligation to give
them back the island.

Sean

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Sep 12, 2003, 1:40:10 AM9/12/03
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ugly duckling wrote:

> Chosun was extremely pro-China. This is when Koreans started
> developing this hatred toward Japanese.

Didn't the Koreans defeat a Japanese invasion long before, with
a boat shaped like a giant turtle? Sometimes I can't believe
the weird stories I read.

Sean

Kaz

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raym...@yahoo.com.au (Raymond Luxury-Yacht II) wrote in message news:<848f8aa3.03091...@posting.google.com>...
> The citizens of New Zealand would certainly be very happy to learn the
> News about "Japan to ban visit to New Zealand" especially the all
> women.

You pathetic Raymond hating the Japanese as hell should see a
psychiatrist and then get some treatment or seek a help, as well as
the sick "coloreds-despising White supremacist Vernon".

ugly duckling

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"Sean" <no....@no.spam> wrote in message news:...

Yes, it was around 1592, I think, under General Yi Soon-Shin.
It is called iron-turtle-ship, because the dome part of the sheep
was built with iron.

You have to know that Chosun already turned their back
against Japan at this time, in order to gain favor from Ming-China.
This was the root of all the trouble thereafter.

Of course, those pro-Chinese historians would say something like,
"It is because Japan was evil that they invaded."

Which version you want to believe, it is up to you.

ugly duckling


vernon...@oyama.ca

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Sep 12, 2003, 2:18:49 AM9/12/03
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In article <Syc8b.19745$cJ5....@www.newsranger.com>,
uglydu...@somewhere.com says...
Sounds like the people being subjigated were trying to decide which
"bear" they'd prefer to eaten by. ;-)

Verno

vernon...@oyama.ca

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Sep 12, 2003, 2:20:09 AM9/12/03
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If Raymond is pathetic for hating Japanese, what does that say about you
hating "tokyojaps" and "honorary whites", who are also Japanese?

Inquiring minds would love to know your answer to this one, ducky.

verno

ugly duckling

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Sep 12, 2003, 2:25:16 AM9/12/03
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<vernon...@oyama.ca> wrote in message
> In article <Syc8b.19745$cJ5....@www.newsranger.com>,

> Sounds like the people being subjigated were trying to decide which
> "bear" they'd prefer to eaten by. ;-)

No, they did not want to be eaten by any bear what-so-ever.

I was talking in Japan's perspective.

ugly duckling


ugly duckling

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"ugly duckling" <uglydu...@somewhere.com> wrote in message

> <vernon...@oyama.ca> wrote in message
> > 4. Did Japan use force to enter these countries?
>
> Russia tried this to Korea. Japan OTOH was very diplomatic.

It, however, was forcefully diplomatic.
It's not like Japan gave any choice to the Chosun King.

I am not saying what Japan did was good.
What I am saying is that Japan changed after WWII, whereas
China did not.

Is it too much to ask to look at Japan with a new perspective?

ugly duckling

Kaz

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Sep 12, 2003, 2:51:58 AM9/12/03
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<vernon...@oyama.ca> wrote in message
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<Canadian racist's rating snipped>

> Until you answer these questions, you will be nothing more than a
> cringing, whining coward. Stand up, Kaz. Be a man.
>

Did you see the pictures? Then you should be aware that how your ally of
Imperial Chinamen treated the Koreans bad. The Li dynasty was like Chinaman
Empire's slave. The Imperial Chinaman country is the only Asian country that
White supremacists respect as "sleeping lion" so they cooperated to the
Imperial Chinaman country, then fabricated such story like the rape of
Nanking things, then you started the war by letting Japan that didn't want
to open the war against the US to attack Pearl Harbor to make a rightful
excuse to ruin Japan and to make the Imperial Chimaman country and Russia to
take over Korea.

I've seen the conference of 6 countries the other day, but N. Korea
completely ignored Japan and S. Korea, then it ws always respecting and
paying attention to the US just like they talk to their former ally.

And you White supremacists and the Imperial Chinamen are exactly the one
that abusing and fucking up Korea. You should be aware of that if you ever
want to claim you are not retarded.

Korea always sink if it get along with the Imperial Chinaman country, sick
self-conscious White supremacists, or Russians, but it always prospers if it
get along together with Japan. We have been getting along well ever since
the ancient times, so you have no right to criticize us, or no right to
interfere us. The presence of N. Korea is the proof that shows how ugly it
would be if the White supremacists ever interfere us together with the dumb
ugly ethnocentric Imperial Chinamen.

Kaz

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mtfe...@netscape.net wrote in message news:<bjri5v$qug$3...@news.Stanford.EDU>...

This pathetic "monkey-boy" Seppo always remind me of a mate of mine, a
Mexican Seppo named "John Navarro" who was just like the one of the
song "Tucson, Arizona" of Dan Forgelberg. John was also a Vietnam
veteran.

Sam

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If you're a typical example of what we can expect from a Japanese
visitor, the sooner a ban is put in place the better!

GG

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Sep 12, 2003, 6:45:41 AM9/12/03
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Shame on YOU for sticking your head up your own ass and not being able to
remove it... thats disgusting. Anyways, if were so racist, then the answers
simple. Dont come here. Even though Id say you're the racist one here.
You're being just as bad as you claim that we are. Yeah so back to my
point... grow up or get your hands amputated or whatever you want just fuck
off and stop being a RACIST FUCKWIT which is exactly what you are.


"Kaz" <kaz...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:44dc0a26.03091...@posting.google.com...
> <vernon...@oyama.ca> wrote in message
news:MPG.19ca3b8ce...@shawnews.vc.shawcable.net...


> > In article <44dc0a26.03091...@posting.google.com>, kaz762
> > @hotmail.com says...

> > > "Sean" <no....@no.spam> wrote in message

news:3F601D0D...@no.spam...
> > >
> > > > Guess what Kaz, when Japanese forces aggressively invaded other
Asian
> > > > countries in WW2 they strutted around in the most arrogant, impudent
> > > > and racist way you can imagine.
> > >
> > > Also, are you trying to deny the fact that albino colonialists had
> > > raped, slaughtered, enslaved and colonized Asia? Are you really trying
> > > to deny as if you colonialists didn't rob the islands from Maoris? If
> > > so, that's ridiculous.
> >
> > Are you trying to avoid admitting that Japan INVADED Asian countries
> > prior to WWII, uninvited, and that they were NOT welcomed by the
> > rightful owners of these countries?
>
> WHAT??? Are you retarded albino-supremacists even trying to distort it

> as if Japan tried to invade Asia? You are really dumb dirty albino
> that has been taught awfully distorted story, or trying to deny your
> dirty atrocities. Of course, Japan went to there to kick out those
> nasty ugly brutal albino-colonialists like you dumb racist, expect
> China. China was Japan's enemy. And Korea was under Japanese
> protection. You should know that Indonesia still respects the Japanese
> military that had incited and helped Indonesians fight to be
> independent from ugly Dutch. You ugly White supremacist believing such
> distorted story should be really ashamed. You are merely a Nazi,
> Vernon. Always trying to distort it to some respectable way of White
> supremacists. Shame on you.
>
> <Canadian Nazi's crap snipped>


GG

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How old are you? 6..? 7...? The English language extends beyond ape, fart,
and monkey.

"Kaz" <kaz...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

Luthien

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Kaz wrote:

And this has what to do with New Zealand?

Musashi

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"Brian Sandle" <bsa...@shell.caverock.net.nz> wrote in message
news:10633342...@cobalt.caverock.co.nz...

That is Japan of the past. Since the economic boom of the 1980s ended and
Japan has been in an economic slump
since then, it is no longer crime-free. Unemployment, bankruptcies,
crime...both by Japanese and the high number
of illegal aliens (mostly chinese), Kids getting busted at school with
knives, homeless people...you name it, Japan has it.


vernon...@oyama.ca

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So you've avoided all the questions, accepting the fact that you have NO
arguments, NO reason, NO case. You continue to rant on about how Japan
didn't start the war, but NO evidence. Nothing but a racist
ultranationalist's rantings.

You've sunk to the lowest level, demonstrating a complete lack of reason
and objectivity. You're the Japanese equivalent of a holocaust denier.

But you can still redeem yourself and re-enter civilized discussion.
Here's how:

A. Stop making racist statements and using inflammatory racist terms to
describe people.

B. Answer the questions:

1. Was Japan invited by the legitimate governments of Korea, China,
Indonesia or the Philippines to occupy any of their territory?

Kaz's answer is:


-----------------------------------------------------------?

2. Were there people already occupying the land they invaded?

Kaz's answer is:


-----------------------------------------------------------?

3. Was this land already occupied by Japan using peaceful means, without

military threats? Was it governed by Japan?

Kaz's answer is:


-----------------------------------------------------------?

4. Did Japan use force to enter these countries?

Kaz's answer is:


-----------------------------------------------------------?

5. Was there armed resistance to Japan's entry into these countries?

Kaz's answer is:


-----------------------------------------------------------?

Until you answer these questions, you will be nothing more than a

cringing, whining coward. Stand up, Kaz. Be a man.

Verno

Musashi

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"Kaz" <kaz...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:44dc0a26.03091...@posting.google.com...
> "Musashi" <Miya...@Hosokawa.co.jp> wrote in message
news:<og58b.5755$Zl6....@newssvr16.news.prodigy.com>...
> > "gblack" <gbl...@hnpl.net> wrote in message
> > news:bjqljm$unv$1...@aklobs.kc.net.nz...

> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > >
> > > "Musashi" <Miya...@Hosokawa.co.jp> wrote in message
> > > news:xs38b.1308$k66...@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com...
> > > :
> > > : "Kaz" <kaz...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > : news:44dc0a26.0309...@posting.google.com...
> > > : > <vernon...@oyama.ca> wrote in message

> > news:MPG.19ca3bbf...@shawnews.vc.shawcable.net...
> > > : > > In article <3808b.822$Le3...@newssvr32.news.prodigy.com>,
> > > : > > Miya...@Hosokawa.co.jp says...
> > > : > > >
> > > : > > > "Kaz" <kaz...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > : > > > news:44dc0a26.03091...@posting.google.com...
> > > : > > > > The Japanese government should ban the Japanese citizen's

> > visits to
> > > : > > > > New Zealand. Those albinic-skinned egoistic, arrogant and
> > impudent
> > > : > > > > world's worst racists in the nasty fartland down under are
> > extremely
> > > : > > > > aggressive to the innocent Japanese tourists.
> > > : > > > >
> > > : > > >
> > > : > > > Kaz..why are you on this babbling rampage against New

> > Zealanders?
> > > : > > > This makes no sense whatsoever.
> > > : >
> > > : > why? because those nasty racist apes in New Fartland are the worst

> > > : > assholes always bitching to us as well as dumb retarded white
> > > : > supremacist canadians do.
> > > : >
> > > :
> > > : I am not aware of New Zealanders being any more or any less racists

> > than any
> > > : other
> > > : ethnic or national group. The same applies to Canadians.
> > > :
> > > Thank you . We're not :-))
> > > However this Kaz thing seems to be a racist of the worst sort and so
> > > far into denial he doesn't think that it's a river in Egypt

> > >
> >
> > Please note that this person Kaz and his views and opinions in no way
> > reflect how "normal average people"
> > in Japan think.
>
> I might be agresssive to them but I'm sure that the most of the normal
> average Japanese don't like the nasty racists of New Zealanders and
> Canadians.
>
I am sure that in the same way most Japanese are not racists, neither are
most
New Zealanders and Canadians. In all democratic societies Racists are a
minority.

> > As far as I know Japan maintains good relations with New Zealand and
> > vice-versa, so I have no idea
> > why this thread even exists.
>

> No, you should know that even the most of New Zealanders hate the
> Japanese and relation between this country and the apeland is not
> maintaining any good relations. AFAIK, there is even no diplomatic
> relation with the raicist's islands dawn under until a few decades
> ago

I know a few Kiwis and they are fine people. Admittedly they live in Japan
and are quite acclimated
to the Japanese culture. But still I haven't experienced anything like you
describe.
Even in the case of Australians, where many of the old peoplehold grudges
against Japanese because
of WWII, I find young Australian people to be far from racist towards
Japanese. In one case I found
this odd because the same people call Aborigines "coons" which I am certain
is a rather racist term.


.


Musashi

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"Kaz" <kaz...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:44dc0a26.03091...@posting.google.com...
> Shameles liar!

>
> > However this Kaz thing seems to be a racist of the worst sort and so
> > far into denial he doesn't think that it's a river in Egypt
>
> No one in the northern hemisphere could be any worse racist than those
> albino apes down under.

Don't you think that the people under the old South African government were
worse racists? They actually
institutionalized racist segregation.
Some people feel that Israelis today are equally racist.

Sam

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Sep 12, 2003, 3:48:09 PM9/12/03
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Redbaiter slithered out from beneath the slime and spat:
>
> Sam says...

>
> > >
> > > This pathetic "monkey-boy" Seppo always remind me of a mate of mine, a
> > > Mexican Seppo named "John Navarro" who was just like the one of the
> > > song "Tucson, Arizona" of Dan Forgelberg. John was also a Vietnam
> > > veteran.
> >
> > If you're a typical example of what we can expect from a Japanese
> > visitor, the sooner a ban is put in place the better!
> >
> That's rich coming from a piece of local filth like you. Get off
> usenet filth.
>
> --
> Redbaiter
> In the leftist's lexicon, the lowest of the low

This from a foulmouthed bene bludging asshole....

vernon...@oyama.ca

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Sep 12, 2003, 3:49:21 PM9/12/03
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In article <3F619A7A...@xtra.co.nz>, sa...@xtra.co.nz says...
I see you've picked up K-K-K-kaz's technique of stereotyping. It isn't
the best way to stop racist comments like his. He certainly isn't
typical of Japanese visiting NZ or anywhere else.

Verno

Eeyan

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Sep 12, 2003, 5:18:24 PM9/12/03
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"Kaz" <kaz...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:44dc0a26.03091...@posting.google.com...

Rape of Nanking? So the Nips didn't do it?


Brian Sandle

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Sep 12, 2003, 5:31:46 PM9/12/03
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In soc.culture.new-zealand Musashi <Miya...@hosokawa.co.jp> wrote:

> "Brian Sandle" <bsa...@shell.caverock.net.nz> wrote in message
>>

>> I think it is a misunderstanding.
>>
>> Japan is a society with rather low crime. I remember a film with the
>> children in Japan going off to the evening classes on bicycles in the big
>> city. Whereas we used to be rather crime free in New Zealand that is not
>> so now. Everyone has to be careful, whoever they are.

> That is Japan of the past. Since the economic boom of the 1980s ended and
> Japan has been in an economic slump
> since then, it is no longer crime-free. Unemployment, bankruptcies,
> crime...both by Japanese and the high number
> of illegal aliens (mostly chinese), Kids getting busted at school with
> knives, homeless people...you name it, Japan has it.

So there is more tension in the world. People look for ways to explain it,
and perhaps even stir it up.

If Kaz has been trying to stir it up I think some of the writers are
helping.

Some entities benefit from the tension, I think. They feed off it.

Tim Scrivens

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"Musashi" <Miya...@Hosokawa.co.jp> wrote in message
news:_dm8b.5898$GC1....@newssvr16.news.prodigy.com...

>
>
> I know a few Kiwis and they are fine people. Admittedly they live in Japan
> and are quite acclimated
> to the Japanese culture. But still I haven't experienced anything like you
> describe.
> Even in the case of Australians, where many of the old peoplehold grudges
> against Japanese because
> of WWII, I find young Australian people to be far from racist towards
> Japanese. In one case I found
> this odd because the same people call Aborigines "coons" which I am
certain
> is a rather racist term.

You were certain, and you were absolutely correct. Coon is a very racist
term. However, the old saying "Familiarity breeds contempt" occurs to me,
here. Strictly speaking, the Australian natives aren't "Aborigines"
either - that is merely a general term meaning "living here when the
Explorers got here". I believe that "Koori" has gained some prominence as a
general descriptive name for them.


vernon...@oyama.ca

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Sep 12, 2003, 7:54:46 PM9/12/03
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In article <10634031...@cobalt.caverock.co.nz>,
bsa...@shell.caverock.net.nz says...

If you think leaving "sleeping dogs lie" is an antidote to racism,
that's a valid opinion. I don't share it.


>
> Some entities benefit from the tension, I think. They feed off it.
>

Mold doesn't grow well in the dark. Some attitudes need to be exposed
to the light of day, and their proponents "struggled". Even Mao knew
that. ;-)

Verno

Kaz

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Sep 12, 2003, 8:43:21 PM9/12/03
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Sam <sa...@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message news:<3F619A7A...@xtra.co.nz>...

I have never been to New Zealand. I never want to visit, of course. So
I can't be such a typical example of Japanese visitor.

Kaz

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Sep 12, 2003, 8:46:14 PM9/12/03
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"GG" <n...@no.com> wrote in message news:<Nvh8b.145253$JA5.3...@news.xtra.co.nz>...

> How old are you? 6..? 7...? The English language extends beyond ape, fart,
> and monkey.

Navarro Indian's descendant John was much older than me. I'm not that old.

Luthien

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Then you really have no concept of NZ.
You just deemed ALL of your comments regarding NZ void.

Sam

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Sep 12, 2003, 9:35:29 PM9/12/03
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No, just a jerk!

Kaz

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Sep 12, 2003, 9:46:30 PM9/12/03
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"Eeyan" <Eeyan...@softhome.net> wrote in message news:<bjtdi5$bcr$1...@lust.ihug.co.nz>...

The "Nips" are not that stupid to believe such a crude fabrication
made up by the conspired allies of the Han-Chink supremacists and the
White supremacists like you.

Kaz

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Sep 12, 2003, 10:33:13 PM9/12/03
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"Musashi" <Miya...@Hosokawa.co.jp> wrote in message news:<Hfm8b.5899$TD1...@newssvr16.news.prodigy.com>...

BTW, are you a North Korean spy or something? Those in New Fartland
are merely the same as N. Korean spies. They are setting many tricks
against Japan and the Japanese to ruin Japan. Just watch out them and
don't trust them, please. It's so scary if you got fooled by those
assholes.

Anyway, New Zealand and Canada are the same kind of racist's country
with South Africa. They never have any idea that abusing Asians or
coloreds is a bad thing. Thye are the apes that consider abusing
Asians and coloreds is some kind of "god promised, justified act", or
something.

Kaz

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Sep 12, 2003, 10:48:18 PM9/12/03
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Luthien <lut...@netscape.net> wrote in message news:<3f60...@news3.accesscomm.ca>...
> Sean wrote:

> > Kaz wrote:
> >
> >>The Japanese government should ban the Japanese citizen's visits to
> >>New Zealand. Those albinic-skinned egoistic, arrogant and impudent
> >>world's worst racists
> >
> >
> > I think you must be Tojo's grandson.
> >
> > Sean
>
> LOL!

And you dirty inhumane apes in New Fartland are the grandsons of girl
kidnappers. Your grand father colonialists kidnapped many thousands of
Japanese girls in the 19th and the 20th century to sell them to their
brothels, or to use them as their "comfort women" during their
invasions against Asia. Your buddy North Korea is still adopting this
your method, then kidnapped many Japanese for their great leader Kim
Jong Il. Shame on you, dirty apes.

vernon...@oyama.ca

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Sep 12, 2003, 10:51:17 PM9/12/03
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In article <44dc0a26.03091...@posting.google.com>, kaz762
@hotmail.com says...
>
> Anyway, New Zealand and Canada are the same kind of racist's country
> with South Africa. They never have any idea that abusing Asians or
> coloreds is a bad thing.

You're partly right. We Canadians love to abuse racists like you, and
their race is irrelevant. A racist is a racist is a racist. Your
filthy racism must be exposed. Mold grows in the dark, but sunlight
kills it.

Verno

Kaz

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Sep 12, 2003, 10:57:38 PM9/12/03
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Luthien <lut...@netscape.net> wrote in message news:<3f61af54$1...@news3.accesscomm.ca>...

Those bastards of North Korea are brothers of nasty New Fartland
terrorizing Japan and South Korea.

Luthien

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Sep 12, 2003, 11:06:28 PM9/12/03
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You have no idea who, what I am or where I am from or what history I am
from.
You are a burbling idiot, who knows not much about anything at all.
As for NZ being dirty, I suggest you read previous posts on how dirty
Japan actually is.

Luthien

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Sep 12, 2003, 11:07:41 PM9/12/03
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Kaz wrote:

How are they brothers?
Cite?

Brian Sandle

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Sep 12, 2003, 11:39:46 PM9/12/03
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In soc.culture.new-zealand vernon...@oyama.ca wrote:
> In article <10634031...@cobalt.caverock.co.nz>,
> bsa...@shell.caverock.net.nz says...
>> So there is more tension in the world. People look for ways to explain it,
>> and perhaps even stir it up.
>>
>> If Kaz has been trying to stir it up I think some of the writers are
>> helping.

> If you think leaving "sleeping dogs lie" is an antidote to racism,
> that's a valid opinion. I don't share it.

Racism or cultural differences?

If we appear different or have different ways the some people use that as
an outlet for aggression. Why not deal with the sources of aggression,
rising in Japan & most everywhere?

If you see a person falling over in the street do you label them stupid or
seek the reason for their possible illness?

This thread seems to be providing soil for hatred to grow.

>>
>> Some entities benefit from the tension, I think. They feed off it.
>>
> Mold doesn't grow well in the dark. Some attitudes need to be exposed
> to the light of day, and their proponents "struggled". Even Mao knew
> that. ;-)

When I was little the school children used to sling abuse at the ones of
the school of other religion. It is something to be grown out of. So
please try.

Eeyan

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"Luthien" <lut...@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:3f62...@news3.accesscomm.ca...

Yup its dirty alright. I sailed into Japan and about 50 miles from the
coast there's a browny haze which gets thicker as you get closer to Ol'
Nippon............ Must be why so many wear masks and have oxygen kiosks
..........

Anyway don't waste your time on Kaz he is completely off his trolley by the
sound of it.
Obfuscation is the name of his game .....................


Sean

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Sep 13, 2003, 1:17:19 AM9/13/03
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Kaz wrote:

> And you dirty inhumane apes in New Fartland are the grandsons of girl
> kidnappers. Your grand father colonialists kidnapped many thousands of
> Japanese girls in the 19th and the 20th century

In Pucchini's opera, _Madame Butterfly_, the American sailor
Pinkerton marries a Japanese girl and then betrays her, whereupon
she commits sepuku. That must be why you're so upset.

Sean

vernon...@oyama.ca

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Sep 13, 2003, 1:37:25 AM9/13/03
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In article <10634252...@cobalt.caverock.co.nz>,
bsa...@shell.caverock.net.nz says...

> In soc.culture.new-zealand vernon...@oyama.ca wrote:
> > In article <10634031...@cobalt.caverock.co.nz>,
> > bsa...@shell.caverock.net.nz says...
> >> So there is more tension in the world. People look for ways to explain it,
> >> and perhaps even stir it up.
> >>
> >> If Kaz has been trying to stir it up I think some of the writers are
> >> helping.
>
> > If you think leaving "sleeping dogs lie" is an antidote to racism,
> > that's a valid opinion. I don't share it.
>
> Racism or cultural differences?

The belief in racial superiority, and the constant use of derogatory
racial stereotypes to denigrate people solely on the basis of their race
is racism. Undoubtedly we are separated by cultural differences, too.
But what I see from Kaz is unadulterated racism. Too many people
tolerate it to be "nice". Well, racism isn't "nice". It's
unacceptable. Allowing it to pass without rebuke is acquiescence.


>
> If we appear different or have different ways the some people use that as
> an outlet for aggression. Why not deal with the sources of aggression,
> rising in Japan & most everywhere?
>
> If you see a person falling over in the street do you label them stupid or
> seek the reason for their possible illness?

Here's an equally false analogy for you. If someone holds you up at
gunpoint do you call for the police or the social worker?

Kaz is neither a person falling over on the street nor a criminal. He
is a racist who spouts hate publicly. That warrants opposition.


>
> This thread seems to be providing soil for hatred to grow.

When I see weeds in the garden, I dig them out by the roots. Ignoring
them doesn't seem to work.

>
> >>
> >> Some entities benefit from the tension, I think. They feed off it.
> >>
> > Mold doesn't grow well in the dark. Some attitudes need to be exposed
> > to the light of day, and their proponents "struggled". Even Mao knew
> > that. ;-)
>
> When I was little the school children used to sling abuse at the ones of
> the school of other religion. It is something to be grown out of. So
> please try.
>

Another false analogy. There's a huge difference between victimizing a
child who goes to a different school than you do, and opposing the
hateful spewing of a racist.

You handle racists your way, and I'll handle them mine.

Verno
(I wouldn't have gone quietly to Auswitch.)

Kaz

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"ugly duckling" <uglydu...@somewhere.com> wrote in message
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>
> <vernon...@oyama.ca> wrote in message

> > 4. Did Japan use force to enter these countries?
>
> Russia tried this to Korea. Japan OTOH was very diplomatic.
> Korea was bound either to be under Japan or under Russia at that time.
>
> It was Russia's best interest to unite all non-Western countries
> on the earth under their guidance against the West. And part
> of it was to assimilate China and Korea.
>
> Russia failed this dream because of Japan.

The Korea's decision to be with Japan was correct. It was the best
choice. Russians are some kind of quasi-White supremacists too, so I
don't think they ever treat the Koreans right. Look at North Korea
that had been with Russia. Nothing good there.

The Li dynasty of Korea(Chosun?) had been ignoring Japanese
recommending Korea to open its country. The Li dynasty had a strong
relation with the ruined Tokugawa shogunate, then they didn't trust
the new Japanese regime.

So Korea was very behind of the modernization as we seen the pictures
on the site I offered. Those evil Western powers are already coming so
close to East Asia to make it the prey of them, so we didn't have
enough time to modernize Korea by itself. To modernized Korea at that
time, at least several decades are needed. So Korea should have been
annexed to Japan to protect her from the nasty Western powers at least
for a temporary shelter, until Korea gets strong enough. Whereas,
there are a lot of Koreans, especially those in North America don't
know that kind of facts, then they are blaming us together with nasty,
disgusting Whites supremacists like Vernon. It's sad. They have been
taught awfully distorted story by the nasty White supremacists, like
the casualty of Hiroshima was only 100, stuff like that, and it's
pathetic. Korea always had a chance to get independent if it became
strong enough. Korea was not any colony of Japan, it was a temporary
part of Japan to protect it from the evil Western powers.

I'm sorry that some of our bastards who went crazy, and then acted
brutal against people due to the severe shortage of natural resources
such as petroleum, iron, etc.. I believe if the White supremacists
didn't embargo our dealing those resources, those our bastards
wouldn't have gone that crazy, forcing many Koreans and Japanese
civilians, even kids to mine for coals, stuff like that. Of course
Japan didn't have to attack Pearl Harbor to fight against the embargo.

The invited attack on Pearl Harbor was a bet. Japan never wanted to
open the war against the US, but the nasty White supremacists had
layed such conspiracy, then seeking a chance to join the war to ruin
Japan and exterminate the Japanese.

Kaz

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Sep 13, 2003, 2:54:38 AM9/13/03
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<vernon...@oyama.ca> wrote in message news:<MPG.19cc26297...@shawnews.vc.shawcable.net>...

> In article <44dc0a26.03091...@posting.google.com>, kaz762
> @hotmail.com says...
> >
> > Anyway, New Zealand and Canada are the same kind of racist's country
> > with South Africa. They never have any idea that abusing Asians or
> > coloreds is a bad thing.
>
> You're perfectly right. We Canadians love to abuse coloreds like you, and
> their race is irrelevant. A jap is a nip is a colored. Our
> glorious racism must be exposed. Coloreds grow in the dark, but sunlight
> kills it.
>
> Verno

I corrected your spelling.

Kaz

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Sep 13, 2003, 3:16:07 AM9/13/03
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"Sean" <no....@no.spam> wrote in message news:3F62AA82...@no.spam...

> Kaz wrote:
>
> > And you dirty inhumane apes in New Fartland are the grandsons of girl
> > kidnappers. Your grand father colonialists kidnapped many thousands of
> > Japanese girls in the 19th and the 20th century
>
> In Pucchini's opera, _Madame Butterfly_, the American sailor
> Pinkerton marries a Japanese girl and then betrays her, whereupon
> she commits sepuku. That must be why you're so upset.
>
> Sean

You are providing a proof how those filthy perverted albino apes
covered up their inhumane brutal act of enslaving Asian women for
their perverted dirty sexual desires.

You massacred "nips"(in your word) by nukes to enslave them, but you
forgot to ban the "nips" to inherit this song;
http://homepage2.nifty.com/duarbo/versoj/v-douyou/akaikutu.htm
as usual behavior of low intelligence, aggressive and impudent
less-civilized stinking albino apes.

Brian Sandle

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Sep 13, 2003, 6:29:26 AM9/13/03
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In soc.culture.new-zealand vernon...@oyama.ca wrote:
> In article <10634252...@cobalt.caverock.co.nz>,
> bsa...@shell.caverock.net.nz says...

>>
>> If you see a person falling over in the street do you label them stupid or
>> seek the reason for their possible illness?

> Here's an equally false analogy for you. If someone holds you up at
> gunpoint do you call for the police or the social worker?

Both, I think. This thread is too concerned with only police.

> Kaz is neither a person falling over on the street nor a criminal. He
> is a racist who spouts hate publicly. That warrants opposition.

So far we have not established whether he may take part in a martial art
which may involve head banging - damage to brain. I have also posted an
article questioning brain damage from sport. I asked whether Japan has
head-banging sport to any degree.

The better proportion of advanced piano students in Auckland are Asian, I
understand.

vernon...@oyama.ca

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Sep 13, 2003, 9:05:43 AM9/13/03
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In article <44dc0a26.0309...@posting.google.com>, kaz762
@hotmail.com says...

> "ugly duckling" <uglydu...@somewhere.com> wrote in message
> news:Syc8b.19745$cJ5....@www.newsranger.com...
> >
> > <vernon...@oyama.ca> wrote in message
> > > 4. Did Japan use force to enter these countries?
> >
> > Russia tried this to Korea. Japan OTOH was very diplomatic.
> > Korea was bound either to be under Japan or under Russia at that time.
> >
> > It was Russia's best interest to unite all non-Western countries
> > on the earth under their guidance against the West. And part
> > of it was to assimilate China and Korea.
> >
> > Russia failed this dream because of Japan.
>
> The Korea's decision to be with Japan was correct. It was the best
> choice. Russians are some kind of quasi-White supremacists too, so I
> don't think they ever treat the Koreans right. Look at North Korea
> that had been with Russia. Nothing good there.

And I suppose you're going to tell us now that Japan DID "treat Koreans
right"? I wonder what the comfort women of Korea have to say about
that?

>
> The Li dynasty of Korea(Chosun?) had been ignoring Japanese
> recommending Korea to open its country. The Li dynasty had a strong
> relation with the ruined Tokugawa shogunate, then they didn't trust
> the new Japanese regime.
>
> So Korea was very behind of the modernization as we seen the pictures
> on the site I offered. Those evil Western powers are already coming so
> close to East Asia to make it the prey of them, so we didn't have
> enough time to modernize Korea by itself.

Your calling the USSR an "evil Western power" uses a very broad brush to
paint the Soviets as a Western nation. It was anything but. Shall I
use your brush to paint Japan as responsible for the holocaust because
she was allied with Nazi Germany? That's the equivalent.

> To modernized Korea at that
> time, at least several decades are needed. So Korea should have been
> annexed to Japan to protect her from the nasty Western powers at least
> for a temporary shelter, until Korea gets strong enough. Whereas,
> there are a lot of Koreans, especially those in North America don't
> know that kind of facts, then they are blaming us together with nasty,
> disgusting Whites supremacists like Vernon.

Blaming you for what? Whatever did Japan do wrong in Korea? I'd love to
hear your detailed version of Japan's benevolent treatment of Koreans.
Please post details.

> It's sad. They have been
> taught awfully distorted story by the nasty White supremacists, like
> the casualty of Hiroshima was only 100, stuff like that, and it's
> pathetic.

What IS pathetic is that you repeat such absolute bullshit. The only
people in North America who repeat such lies are wackos like you. No-
one in North America has ever been taught that the casualties at
Hiroshima was only 100 . . . . unless they got a holocaust denier-type
like you for a teacher.

> Korea always had a chance to get independent if it became
> strong enough. Korea was not any colony of Japan, it was a temporary
> part of Japan to protect it from the evil Western powers.
>
> I'm sorry that some of our bastards who went crazy, and then acted
> brutal against people due to the severe shortage of natural resources
> such as petroleum, iron, etc.

Yes, the shortage of petroleum and iron can turn men mad, huh Kaz? What
a distorted lie! That is right up there with "100 casualties from
Hiroshima"!

> I believe if the White supremacists
> didn't embargo our dealing those resources, those our bastards
> wouldn't have gone that crazy, forcing many Koreans and Japanese
> civilians, even kids to mine for coals, stuff like that.

You've also left out a huge portion of the story.

You have claimed all along that Japan did not invade other countries,
and never started the war in the Pacific. Then, recently, you backed
off this point just a little, admitting that Japan invaded the territory
of its enemy, China.

But now you go back to ignoring that the US embargo was the direct
result of Japan's uninvited, imperialist military expansion (normally
called INVASION) into other Asian countries. Yet, WAS the sole reason
for the embargo!

So, what was Japan's response to the embargo, and did it have other
options? You previously said Japan had "no choice". But you change
your tune in the next paragraph:

> Of course
> Japan didn't have to attack Pearl Harbor to fight against the embargo.

EXACTLY! In other words JAPAN STARTED THE WAR!!!! Instead of attacking
Pearl Harbour, Japan could have withdrawn its troops from all Asian
countries. A pact with the US was possible. But Japan wouldn't modify
its imperialist tendencies, so they attacked the US instead.


>
> The invited attack on Pearl Harbor was a bet.

INVITED ATTACK? God, you sound like one of those rapists whose defence
is "well, dressing like that, she was inviting it".

> Japan never wanted to
> open the war against the US, but the nasty White supremacists had
> layed such conspiracy, then seeking a chance to join the war to ruin
> Japan and exterminate the Japanese.

And of course, Japan was too stupid to find a way out of the kind of
near-total humiliation that it suffered. Humiliation of the kind that
spawned ultranationalist racists like you, who, feeling diminished by
Japan's embarrassing defeat at the hands of inferior whites, cling to
myths about Japan's role in the war.

You are one sick puppy, Kaz. Wake up.

Verno

vernon...@oyama.ca

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In article <44dc0a26.03091...@posting.google.com>, kaz762
@hotmail.com says...
> <vernon...@oyama.ca> wrote in message news:<MPG.19cc26297...@shawnews.vc.shawcable.net>...
> > In article <44dc0a26.03091...@posting.google.com>, kaz762
> > @hotmail.com says...
> > >
> > > Anyway, New Zealand and Canada are the same kind of racist's country
> > > with South Africa. They never have any idea that abusing Asians or
> > > coloreds is a bad thing.
> >
Forged post snipped.

> >
> > Verno
>
> I corrected your spelling.
>
I have challenged you repeatedly to find a single post of mine to
substantiate your false charges that I am a racist and white
supremacist. How many have you found? NONE! Because none exist. So
now, you alter my posts in your response to me! Have you no pride or
shame?

What a disgusting, gutless coward. Now, you alter my posts. A liar,
and now a forger. You have zero integrity. Add that to your already
established record as an ultranationalist racist, and you're about the
worst kind of person short of a being a criminal.

You're a disgrace to the honorable heritage of Japan -- the heritage of
Bushido.

"The honor of Bushido, has its root in the word "honesty" or
"integrity". Honor is "truth"."

But not for K-K-K-kaz, who is a spineless liar.

Verno

vernon...@oyama.ca

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Sep 13, 2003, 9:14:05 AM9/13/03
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> "Sean" <no....@no.spam> wrote in message news:3F62AA82...@no.spam...
> > Kaz wrote:
> >
> > > And you dirty inhumane apes in New Fartland are the grandsons of girl
> > > kidnappers. Your grand father colonialists kidnapped many thousands of
> > > Japanese girls in the 19th and the 20th century
> >
> > In Pucchini's opera, _Madame Butterfly_, the American sailor
> > Pinkerton marries a Japanese girl and then betrays her, whereupon
> > she commits sepuku. That must be why you're so upset.
> >
> > Sean
>
> You are providing a proof how those filthy perverted albino apes
> covered up their inhumane brutal act of enslaving Asian women for
> their perverted dirty sexual desires.
>
Uh, Kaz, I hate to break this to you, but Madame Butterfly is FICTION
written by an Italian.

Verno

vernon...@oyama.ca

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In article <10634498...@cobalt.caverock.co.nz>,
bsa...@shell.caverock.net.nz says...

> In soc.culture.new-zealand vernon...@oyama.ca wrote:
> > In article <10634252...@cobalt.caverock.co.nz>,
> > bsa...@shell.caverock.net.nz says...
> >>
> >> If you see a person falling over in the street do you label them stupid or
> >> seek the reason for their possible illness?
>
> > Here's an equally false analogy for you. If someone holds you up at
> > gunpoint do you call for the police or the social worker?
>
> Both, I think. This thread is too concerned with only police.

If your inclination is to call the social worker, call away! In fact,
you could ask if he has emotional problems that cause him to feel all
this hate. I won't object. But don't ask me to do it for you. That's
up to you.


>
> > Kaz is neither a person falling over on the street nor a criminal. He
> > is a racist who spouts hate publicly. That warrants opposition.
>
> So far we have not established whether he may take part in a martial art
> which may involve head banging - damage to brain. I have also posted an
> article questioning brain damage from sport. I asked whether Japan has
> head-banging sport to any degree.

That's always possible. But remote.


>
> The better proportion of advanced piano students in Auckland are Asian, I
> understand.
>

And that means . . . ?

Verno

Luthien

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Sep 13, 2003, 11:28:02 AM9/13/03
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Kaz wrote:

> "Sean" <no....@no.spam> wrote in message news:3F62AA82...@no.spam...
>
>>Kaz wrote:
>>
>>
>>>And you dirty inhumane apes in New Fartland are the grandsons of girl
>>>kidnappers. Your grand father colonialists kidnapped many thousands of
>>>Japanese girls in the 19th and the 20th century
>>
>>In Pucchini's opera, _Madame Butterfly_, the American sailor
>>Pinkerton marries a Japanese girl and then betrays her, whereupon
>>she commits sepuku. That must be why you're so upset.
>>
>>Sean
>
>
> You are providing a proof how those filthy perverted albino apes
> covered up their inhumane brutal act of enslaving Asian women for
> their perverted dirty sexual desires.
>

Who did?

Luthien

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Sep 13, 2003, 1:32:33 PM9/13/03
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Kaz wrote:

That is fraudulent. Fraud is illegal.

gblack

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"Kaz" <kaz...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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: <vernon...@oyama.ca> wrote in message

Now we await you correcting your racist attitudes


Brian Sandle

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In soc.culture.new-zealand vernon...@oyama.ca wrote:
> In article <10634498...@cobalt.caverock.co.nz>,
> bsa...@shell.caverock.net.nz says...
>> In soc.culture.new-zealand vernon...@oyama.ca wrote:
>> > In article <10634252...@cobalt.caverock.co.nz>,
>> > bsa...@shell.caverock.net.nz says...
>> >>
>> >> If you see a person falling over in the street do you label them stupid or
>> >> seek the reason for their possible illness?
>>
>> > Here's an equally false analogy for you. If someone holds you up at
>> > gunpoint do you call for the police or the social worker?
>>
>> Both, I think. This thread is too concerned with only police.

> If your inclination is to call the social worker, call away! In fact,
> you could ask if he has emotional problems that cause him to feel all
> this hate. I won't object. But don't ask me to do it for you. That's
> up to you.

So do you want improvement, or just want to have a situation to aim
punishment at?

>>
>> > Kaz is neither a person falling over on the street nor a criminal. He
>> > is a racist who spouts hate publicly. That warrants opposition.
>>
>> So far we have not established whether he may take part in a martial art
>> which may involve head banging - damage to brain. I have also posted an
>> article questioning brain damage from sport. I asked whether Japan has
>> head-banging sport to any degree.

> That's always possible. But remote.

Like soccer, or some martial arts - boxing &c.

>>
>> The better proportion of advanced piano students in Auckland are Asian, I
>> understand.
>>
> And that means . . . ?

Whether Kaz or the people in Auckland he claims are doing things from an
intentional racist perspective, or not, I think people who may be
discouraged from going to Auckland in consequence will be the losers.

Just watch out for certain aspects. I do not know the sociology of
spitting in China, for example. Is it fairly normal? The language school
students do it here a bit, and I have to think twice as I am not used to
it, or it feels a little as if it might be a little insult.

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