Carl Weill at Soesterberg?
S B
Could anyone tell me anything good about this company - "Carl Weill" from
Soesterberg?
Are their knives as good as the company claims? Can't find any reference on
the web except for their site:
http://www.carlweill.com/.
Sorry if topic sounds inappropriate: could not find a better newsgroup.
Thanks!
SB/Montreal Canada
box4sb(at)canada(dot)com
JWS
It seems you did not search the web thoroughly enough.
Google Earth reveals that the huge factory depicted on the website
does not exist -- not at that address, at least.
A reverse phone number search finds that the phone number is listed as
belonging to "Peto Kitchenware" -- not "Carl Weill". I did not look up
Peto in the Chamber of Commerce registry, because that costs money. I
expect it will be a one or two-man show.
"Carl Weill" is certainly not a well-known, ancient European brand
name. It was first registered, by Peto Kitchenware, in the Benelux
Trade Mark Registry on April 1st (!) 2003:
Google for Carl Weill Soesterberg, and you will see that the company
uses unorthodox sales methods (basically, from the boot of a car). See
in particular http://robbevan.com/blog/2004/09/16/berghaus-knives-scam/.
"Berghaus" and "Carl Weill" (a.k.a. "Peto") -- both in Soesterberg --
seem to be related.
On the other hand, most customers seem to be satisfied with the
quality/price ratio. Not at the absurd "official" list price of
course, but at the "boot of the car" price (as low as 50 euros or so
for a complete knife set). Most likely the goods are Chinese-made.
They seem to be imitations of the Japanese "Global" brand, but as they
do not use the Global name, I doubt they could be called "counterfeit
goods". In other words it looks like a scam, but a fairly harmless
one. I see no reason to sick the Dutch economic police on them (or
indeed on anyone for that matter). But the whole story seems really
strange.
Hope this helps.
S B
I will try better next time.
"JWS" <cyo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks for your insights!
> I will try better next time.
>
> news:1183550150.5...@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...
> > On Jul 3, 11:35 pm, "S B" <s...@no.thanks> wrote:
> >> Hi Netherlanders,
> >>
> >> Could anyone tell me anything good about this company - "Carl Weill" from
> >> Soesterberg?
> >>
> >> Are their knives as good as the company claims? Can't find any reference
> >> on
> >> the web except for their site:http://www.carlweill.com/.
> >>
> >> Sorry if topic sounds inappropriate: could not find a better newsgroup.
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >>
> >> SB/Montreal Canada
> >> box4sb(at)canada(dot)com
> >
> > It seems you did not search the web thoroughly enough.
> >
> > Google Earth reveals that the huge factory depicted on the website
> > does not exist -- not at that address, at least.
> >
> > A reverse phone number search finds that the phone number is listed as
> > belonging to "Peto Kitchenware" -- not "Carl Weill". I did not look up
> > Peto in the Chamber of Commerce registry, because that costs money. I
> > expect it will be a one or two-man show.
> >
> > "Carl Weill" is certainly not a well-known, ancient European brand
> > name. It was first registered, by Peto Kitchenware, in the Benelux
> > Trade Mark Registry on April 1st (!) 2003:
> >
> > http://register.boip.int/bmbonline/details/trademark/show.do?markNumberType=REG&markNumber=726887&markID=1606034
> >
> > Google for Carl Weill Soesterberg, and you will see that the company
> > uses unorthodox sales methods (basically, from the boot of a car). See
> > in particular http://robbevan.com/blog/2004/09/16/berghaus-knives-scam/.
> > "Berghaus" and "Carl Weill" (a.k.a. "Peto") -- both in Soesterberg --
> > seem to be related.
> >
> > On the other hand, most customers seem to be satisfied with the
> > quality/price ratio. Not at the absurd "official" list price of
> > course, but at the "boot of the car" price (as low as 50 euros or so
> > for a complete knife set). Most likely the goods are Chinese-made.
> > They seem to be imitations of the Japanese "Global" brand, but as they
> > do not use the Global name, I doubt they could be called "counterfeit
> > goods". In other words it looks like a scam, but a fairly harmless
> > one. I see no reason to sick the Dutch economic police on them (or
> > indeed on anyone for that matter). But the whole story seems really
> > strange.
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> >