30,000 Nepalis with American citizenship?

[Ashutosh Tiwari]

Does anyone know how many Nepali medical doctors are there in
the US? A rough estimate would be fine.

Also, any data on the number of Nepali lawyers in the US, who
are practicing law, would also be appreciated.

Just the numbers; estimates, really; no names or anything
like that. If someone could direct me to those who may
have some idea about the estimates, I'd appreciate it.

Mr. Dibya Hada of New York City recently claimed PUBLICLY in
Kathmandu that there are 30,000 Nepali-Americans
(i.e. those with American citizenship) in the US, and of
those HALF (i.e. 15,000) are doctors, lawyers and engineers.

The numbers above seem VERY exaggerated; and to counter such
seemingly misleading data, some sort reasonable/and credible
estimates from those in the know would be great.

Isn't anyone out there studying demography or poring over
census data as part of his/her job? :-)

Dr. Kanhaiya Vaidya, where are you when I need you the
most? :-)

namaste
ashu

[Dig Tamang]

Dear Ashuji,

I don't agree with Hadaji's data, I have been residing in USA for
17 years.I have had the opportunity to get in touch with all the Nepalese
community in the USA.If there are more than 12 thousand Nepalese in the
USA we should be proud of ourselves.Densly populated Nepalese communities
include New York,Washington DC, California, Georgia, Nebraska, Texax,
Colorado Minasota. If you would get in touch with their leaders in
respective areas, you might be able to find out the number of Nepalese
people residing in those areas.

With regards
Dig Bahadur Tamang

[ngawang sherpa]

Dear Ashu,

I don't have other figures, but the number of Sherpas alone in NY is
almost 500. However, I would be surprised if there is as many
Sherpas in the rest of the US combined. Among the 500, there is only
one doctor.

Ashutosh Tiwari
(tiw...@login3.fas.harvard.edu) wrote:

: Does anyone know how many Nepali medical doctors are there in
: the US? A rough estimate would be fine.

: Also, any data on the number of Nepali lawyers in the US, who
: are practicing law, would also be appreciated.

: Just the numbers; estimates, really; no names or anything
: like that. If someone could direct me to those who may
: have some idea about the estimates, I'd appreciate it.

: Mr. Dibya Hada of New York City recently claimed PUBLICLY in
: Kathmandu that there are 30,000 Nepali-Americans
: (i.e. those with American citizenship) in the US, and of
: those HALF (i.e. 15,000) are doctors, lawyers and engineers.

: The numbers above seem VERY exaggerated; and to counter such
: seemingly misleading data, some sort reasonable/and credible
: estimates from those in the know would be great.

: Isn't anyone out there studying demography or poring over
: census data as part of his/her job? :-)

: Dr. Kanhaiya Vaidya, where are you when I need you the
: most? :-)

: namaste
: ashu

--

NG.Karsang Sherpa
University of Pennsylvania,
GSFA, Department of Architecture
207 Meyerson Hall
Philadelphia, PA 19104--6311

[Dig Tamang]

Dig Tamang <tamang@ mail.erols.com> wrote:

>tiw...@login3.fas.harvard.edu (Ashutosh Tiwari) wrote:
>>
>>Does anyone know how many Nepali medical doctors are there in
>>the US? A rough estimate would be fine.
>>
>>Also, any data on the number of Nepali lawyers in the US, who
>>are practicing law, would also be appreciated.
>>
>>Just the numbers; estimates, really; no names or anything
>>like that. If someone could direct me to those who may
>>have some idea about the estimates, I'd appreciate it.
>>
>>Mr. Dibya Hada of New York City recently claimed PUBLICLY in
>>Kathmandu that there are 30,000 Nepali-Americans
>>(i.e. those with American citizenship) in the US, and of
>>those HALF (i.e. 15,000) are doctors, lawyers and engineers.
>>
>>The numbers above seem VERY exaggerated; and to counter such
>>seemingly misleading data, some sort reasonable/and credible
>>estimates from those in the know would be great.
>>
>>Isn't anyone out there studying demography or poring over
>>census data as part of his/her job? :-)
>>
>>Dr. Kanhaiya Vaidya, where are you when I need you the
>>most? :-)
>>
>>namaste
>>ashu
>>
>
>

[Dig Tamang]

[kali...@cybergal.com]

The US Immigration and Naturalization Service should have information on
Citizens and Green-card holders. It could take a while to find the right
department or number to call, but chances are the gov't worker would be
more than happy to give you the statistics should you find him or her.

-ks

[Mari Sullivan]

30,000 Nepalis w/ American citizenship! I don't think so. I would
believe that there are that many here in the USA but certainly not all
with citizenship. Sounds like whoever was spouting those stats...was
talking off the top of his head and is prone to exageration.

We live in a major city and I work at a major University and there are
only a couple of hundred, if that Nepali's in the NW...and not a lot of
citizens!

mari

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> kali-shri

wrote:>
>The US Immigration and Naturalization Service should have information on
>Citizens and Green-card holders. It could take a while to find the right
>department or number to call, but chances are the gov't worker would be
>more than happy to give you the statistics should you find him or her

I guess you have not dealt with the INS. No one picks up the phone, no one
answers the questions. At least in New York, when you go visit their
information office, they have at times shown to be rude, crude, impatient,
arrogant, and whatever else. My observation has been that they think they can
get away with anything in regards to their treatment to the third word
foreigners and immigrants who cannot speak fluent english and do not know
their rights. It is by far the worst bureaucracy body that I have seen and
dealt with so far. What you need is a good lawyer to deal with them, otherwise
they will try to run all over you.

Rajeev

[RBADBX]

>30,000 Nepalis w/ American citizenship

I would have to guess that this was done to influence the decision on granting
dual citizenship to Nepali Amrikans. If Hadaji did say that for a fact, I say
he does manage to amuse us once in a while.

Rajeev

[Ashish Duvadié]

Well, that figure really seems hyper exaggerated.  I don't know who this guy is, however he seems to really mislead Nepalese in Nepal thinking that they might be innocent.  That will be great and awesome if we had 30,000 Nepalese in such a high-professions.

 

In reality, that is not true.  It is hard enough for most Nepalese to support their day to day existence while they are going school.  Most come without any scholarships or adequate funding to study in US for hope of better or worse, depending in their own choice.

 

This false data could lead innocent victims (Nepalese) to think that US is really a dream land.  In reality, it is not.  It is better for someone to go to India, finish the education and come here for graduate study.  On top of that, getting financial aid for Law Schools and Medical schools are impossible if one is not American citizen or Permanent Resident.

 

Even for Americans of many generation, it is not a joke of being a doctor or lawyer.  This requires quite a sum of money, time, and effort.  Most of the Nepalese from my experience are very good students and learners but in real world one also faces the dilemma of time and money.  Which most of the Nepalese don't have compared to the rest of the world.  Thanks to our bright Economist and Politicians.

 

Basically, the point is that this guy is saying too much than he needs without having sufficient data and misleading people.  He should not do so in the future.

 

Ashish Duvadié

Boston, MA

U.S.A

duv...@aol.com

Ashish_...@ccmail.mentorcc.com

 

p.s. aspiring to be a lawyer one day...(may be)

[kali...@cybergal.com]

Actually what you say is a well known fact. However when I suggested INS
I wasn't thinking of the departments whose job it is to talk to people,
but the opposite: the people in Washington DC or wherever in charge of
statistics only.

However in light of the nature of the organization as a whole, I tend to
agree with you that it could be a lost cause!

-ks

[cybe...@my-dejanews.com]

In article <199805200102...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,

Hada is trying to influence Nepal Govt. with misleading data. What
a wonder? From 4 thousand villages in Nepal, 8 persons per village
(average) move to America?

Dual citizenship may have many good reasons. but, we need to find
the ways to solve the bad things that will result from Dual citizenship.
One of most dangerous part of Dual citizenship is: it will be used
to transfer dollars into nepal and out of Nepal. A way to turn black
money to white money. A few years back a nepali lawyer working in
US of A went back to Nepal and published an Ad in a newspaper inviting
applicant to be US citizen, I went to his home(the given address),
he demanded Rs. 1,500 to process the application. Later I found
the application he was processing was for DX-XX program which had
to be free. He cheated innnocent peoples just for writing a page of
information. He never appeared back in Nepal.
So, the dual citizenship (peoples like that guy will find
loops in law and use it for money making BHADO).
If Hada is also showing exagarrated info., then, his intensions
are twisted? At least, he is not trustable.
>

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[cybe...@my-dejanews.com]

For few good reasons we(as nepali citizen) should not invite
bad things to Nepal, we already have enough bad things. Usually,
dual citizenship seekers are the guys whose parents have enough
property and had few brothers, So, to keep chances to get share
in parental property "ANSHA BANDA", after their parents death
(or before) they usually retain their nepali citizenship until
ANSHABANDA is over (if you go through various nepali families
they will be complaining this problems: acquired green card for
themselves and but, don't want to be US citizen before ANSHABANDA,
instead, their wife and kids are already US citizen). There can not
be single reason, but, it will be one major reason, they won't ask
for ANSHABANDA, but, want to retain legal chances. In such cases,
Nepali citizens will be losing at least the cashed ANSHA will again
fly to US of A. I think average Nepalis have invested (national) enough
money on those migrated Nepalis for their education and for their physical
growth from mother's tomb upto their destination to US of A. They
don't need ANSHABANDA any more, I would say they don't deserve it.
So, dual citizenship is not a real need to be real nepalis.
It will be more THAGI KHANE BHANDO, less serving equation. I believe
in the nepali ukhan, a man with two watches never knows the correct
time, a Nepali with dual citizenship will never serve Nepal. Let
us be true Nepali. Right now, I don't have interest to acquire
another citizenship, but, if I change my interest I will still have
only one watch, one passport, one citizenship, one wife. I will
not do any JHIK JHIK, I will not be worried about my ANSHA, I will
not make hue and cry "Afno janmeko desh jana pani Tourist Visa chahine,
3 mahina bhanda badhi bashema overstay hune......(hahahahaha....)".
I think majority of Nepalis will retain Nepali citizenship for
those emotional purposes. Furthermore, why should Nepalis take care
of you at your old days, if you want to say "I want to return at my
old-days with few thousand dollars just enough to sustain remaining days
in Nepal while leaving the major part of the saving outside Nepal".
A single citizenship policy will bring more saving to Nepal, compared
to the dual citizenships (My understanding). If any of you disagree,
you have right to claim.

If this posting is offensive, and sarcastic, its not my problem.

There is a poster on my office lobby every time I pass,
i read the big bold romanized sentance "Nepal: Top of the world".

A Nepali who is still proud to be a Nepali citizenship.

[loz...@mindless.com]

Desire for dual citizenship so sons can keep ancestral properties?

Another good reason to recognize Nepali women as human beings and codify
their human rights including property rights.

However, I thought the desire for dual citizenship was so the Nepali
could collect that social security check until death whilst wiling away
their time in the Nepali motherland. After all, a dollar goes further in
Kathmandu than NYC (for the time being anyway-for some items).

-kali

[dinesh chhetri]

> >
> > Mr. Dibya Hada of New York City recently claimed PUBLICLY in
> > Kathmandu that there are 30,000 Nepali-Americans
> > (i.e. those with American citizenship) in the US, and of
> > those HALF (i.e. 15,000) are doctors, lawyers and engineers.
> >

I know (or have heard of) only about 20 physicians of Nepali origin in the
USA. It would be very surprising (pleasantly, of course) if there were
many more than that. My personal guess... definitely way less than a
hundred.

Dinesh

[Nerapa]

>A Nepali who is still proud to be a Nepali citizenship.

IN A CORRUPTED SOCIETY.

[cybe...@my-dejanews.com]

In article <199805231721...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,

ner...@aol.com (Nerapa) wrote:
>
> >A Nepali who is still proud to be a Nepali citizenship.
>
> IN A CORRUPTED SOCIETY.
>
>

If your statement is seriously taken, why these peoples who
have left the corrupted (Nepal) society want to retain their
citizenship back? Just curious.

Until end of lastweek, Suharto was not corrupt, and now
he is corrupt. That questions me whether there is any society free
of corrupts?

With the pass of time, I hope the remaining uncorrupts
like you(?) in the corrupt society will bring the society in back order.
I believe time.

Regards.

[rba...@yahoo.com]

Does anyone have any update on Nepali population in the US?

Thanks

In article <6jm0pc$igm$1...@news.fas.harvard.edu>,

tiw...@login3.fas.harvard.edu (Ashutosh Tiwari) wrote:
>
>
> Does anyone know how many Nepali medical doctors are there in
> the US? A rough estimate would be fine.

>
> namaste
> ashu
>
>

Rishi

[Ashutosh Tiwari]

rba...@yahoo.com writes:

>Does anyone have any update on Nepali population in the US?

>Rishi

In my spare time, I am still going over stuff that Dr. Kanhaiya Vaidya had
provided to me a few weeks ago. I will dig some more stuff, and post
some relevant numbers here. May take a while to do so, though.

Thanks to Dr. Vaidya for getting me started on this.

Meantime, may I nudge you, Baralji, to read Kumar Pandey's article here on
SCN, which I have just posted? Thanks

namaste
ashu