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Peter Terpstra

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May 8, 2013, 3:56:46 AM5/8/13
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rst9

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May 11, 2013, 2:29:18 AM5/11/13
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Now, why would anybody want to listen to this old man from Tibet?
He's a master jester, a joker, and a evil devil.

Satish

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May 11, 2013, 11:42:52 AM5/11/13
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On May 10, 11:29 pm, rst9 <rst9w...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Now, why would anybody want to listen to this old man from Tibet?
> He's a master jester, a joker, and a evil devil.


rst0/rst9, isn't that your opinion as a cheerleader of Beijing's
imperialism in Tibet?

If you were speaking a a Chinese American owing loyalty to democratic
USA, you would have commiserated with the Tibetans.

Yours is an xxpected response from the imperialists in charge of
Beijing's bandit regime. The imperialists in Beijing and their running
dogs like the 74-year old Chinese American rst0 who lives in Merced,
CA revel in the idea of torturing and eliminating Tibetan "trouble
makers". They want Tibet's land and natural resources but not the
people.

rst0/rst9, open your eyes and open up your heart. Even the Taiwanese
can sympathize with the aspirations of occupied Tibet:

*************

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/world/archives/2012/07/23/2003538442

Taipei Times
July 23, 2012

PRC steps up repression of Tibetan 'separatism'
AFP

China's propaganda chief has ordered officials to intensify the fight
against separatism in Tibet, a report said yesterday, following a
series of self-immolations in protest at Beijing's rule.


Li Changchun (李長春), ranked fifth in the hierarchy of the Chinese
Communist Party, called for the campaign during an inspection tour of
Lhasa, where he visited the Jokhang Temple, the center of Tibetan
Buddhism, the People's Daily reported.


"The lifeblood of Tibet rests in ethnic unity, social harmony and
stability," the paper quoted Li as saying during his visit to the
Himalayan region last week.


"We must guide officials and the people to continually strengthen
their understanding of the great [Chinese] motherland and people and
deepen and expand the fight against separatism," he said.


Li, China's top propaganda official, also urged an education campaign
to "underscore the historic fact that Tibet is an inseparable part of
China," and which should form "the ideological basis for the fight
against separatism and the maintenance of stability."


During his trip, Li also visited the Potala Palace, once home to the
Dalai Lama, Tibetan Buddhism's highest spiritual leader, who fled
after a failed uprising in 1959.


Li's comments come after a teenage Tibetan Buddhist monk self-
immolated in a Tibetan region of southwest China last week, the 42nd
Tibetan to set fire to themselves in recent months.


The 18-year old monk, identified as Lobsang Lozin, set himself alight
in Bharkham County in Sichuan Province, which borders Tibet, as he
marched towards a government office, the India-based Central Tibetan
Administration said in a statement.


The monk died on the spot, the statement said.


Tibetans have long chafed under China's rule over the vast Himalayan
plateau, saying that Beijing has curbed religious freedoms and their
culture is being eroded by an influx of Han Chinese, the country's
main ethnic group.


Beijing, however, says Tibetans enjoy religious freedom and have
benefited from improved living standards brought on by China's
economic expansion.


On May 27 two men set themselves on fire in front of the Jokhang
Temple, the renowned center for Buddhist pilgrimage, in the first such
incident to occur in Lhasa.


Lhasa was the scene of violent anti-Chinese government protests in
2008, which later spread to other areas inhabited by Tibetans and
authorities have kept the city under tight security ever since.

************

http://gwynnedyer.com/2009/china-trouble-in-the-colonies/

4 July 2009

China: Trouble in the Colonies

By Gwynne Dyer

"The incidents in China are, simply put, a genocide. There's no point
in interpreting this otherwise," said Turkey's Prime Minister Recep
Tayyib Erdogan last Friday. He was talking about the deaths of at
least 184 people in the recent street violence in Xinjiang, the huge
province that occupies the north-western corner of China.

A majority of Xinjiang's people are Uighurs who are Muslims and speak
a language closely related to Turkish, so Erdogan's comments were
bound to appeal to his audience in Turkey. The Chinese government,
predictably, condemned his charges as "irresponsible and groundless."
The Chinese government was right - but also terribly wrong.

It wasn't a genocide. The deaths of 184 people, for whatever reason,
do not constitute a genocide. Erdogan was claiming that there had been
a genocide against the Uighurs, but three-quarters of the people
killed in the riots were Han Chinese."Genocide" is a word that should
only be used very precisely, and Erdogan owes Beijing an apology.

Even if the Chinese authorities exaggerated the number of Han dead and
understated the Uighur death-toll, as Uighur nationalists abroad
claim, there is no doubt that this violence started as an Uighur
attack on Chinese immigrants. However, Beijing owes the Uighurs more
than just an apology, for it is Chinese policy that drove them to such
desperate measures.

The Chinese authorities genuinely believe that the development they
have brought to Xinjiang has been for the Uighurs' own good, even if
it has also brought huge numbers of Han Chinese immigrants to the
province. But they are certainly not distressed to see this sensitive
frontier province that was 90 percent Uighur and Muslim sixty years
ago become a place where a majority of the residents are instinctively
loyal Han Chinese.

More importantly, they lack the cultural imagination to see that this
process will be profoundly a lienating for the Uighurs. It may sound
preposterous, but most of the men who rule China simply could not come
up with an answer to the question: "Why don't they want to be
Chinese?" So if there are anti-Chinese riots in Xinjiang, it must be
"outside agitators stirring up our Uighurs."

That is how Beijing explained the riots to itself and to the nation.
As Xinjiang's Communist governor, Nur Bekri, said in a televised
address, exiled Uighur leader Rebiya Kadeer "had phone conversations
with people in China on 5 July in order to incite [the violence]."
Beijing explained the even bloodier anti-Chinese riots in Tibet in
March of last year in exactly the same way, except that that time the
outside agitator was the Dalai Lama.

What's more, most Chinese believe it. They have been schooled to
believe that Xinjiang and Tibet have been an integral part of their
country since time immemorial. They also believe the Uighurs and
Tibetans who live in those places are (or should be) profoundly
grateful for the development and prosperity that have come to their
provinces as a result of their membership in the Chinese nation.

The gulf of incomprehension is so vast that it is reminiscent of the
gap between the Russian and non-Russian inhabitants of the former
Russian empire before the collapse of the old Soviet Union in 1991.
Almost all Ru ssians believed that the non-Russians were (or should
be) grateful for all that had been done for them, and even resented
the fact that they got more investment per capita than the Russians
themselves. As for the non-Russians, they took their independence as
soon as they could.

The truth is that the Chinese empire first took effective control of
Tibet and Xinjiang in the same period when the Russian empire was
conquering the other Central Asian countries. Whatever vague claims to
"suzerainty" Beijing can dredge up from the more distant past, they do
not convince the Uighurs and the Tibetans themselves, who would cut
loose from China instantly if they got the chance.

; It's called decolonisation, and China is the last hold-out. The only
way it can ensure a different final outcome to that of the other
empires is to swamp the local people with Han Chinese immigrants - and
that, oddly enough, is the principal result of its "development"
policies. The development creates an economy that the local people are
not qualified to work in, and Chinese immigrants come in to fill those
jobs instead.

The Tibetan Automous Region still has a large Tibetan majority, but in
Xinjiang the Uighurs are already down to 45 percent of the population,
while the Han Chinese are up to 40 percent. The Uighurs feel that
their country is disappearing in front of their eyes, and they are
right.

So they attack innocent Chinese immigrants, which is shameful but all
too understandable. Chinese mobs attack them back, which is equally
shameful and equally understandable.

It is already ugly, and it's probably going to get a good deal uglier.
The repression needed to hold down Xinjiang and Tibet may lead to
increased repression in China in general, and it will almost certainly
lead to more violence in the colonies.

****************

http://www.economist.com/node/21560618 ;

Economist
August 18, 2012

Tweets from the plateau
A Tibetan blogger dares to challenge the party line

IN A recent posting on her blog, Tsering Woeser accused the
authorities in Lhasa of carrying out racial segregation, welcoming Han
Chinese visitors to the Tibetan capital but not Tibetans. "Has the
world forgotten its boycott of governments that practised apartheid?"
she fumed. As a chronicler of repression in Tibet, Ms Woeser has long
been China's most daring voice online, and a very rare one.

Ms Woeser's dogged determination, despite close surveillance by
security agents in Beijing where she lives with her (Han Chinese)
husband, has kept open a rare window on conditions in Tibetan-
inhabited areas. These have been largely off-limits to foreign
journalists since riots in Lhasa in 2008. The 46-year-old writer
scours the social media for titbits of news from the plateau, passing
them on through her blog, "Invisible Tibet", or on Twitter. Her
postings are in Chinese, which has helped to raise awareness among non-
Tibetans.

Both Twitter and her blog are blocked by China's censors, but Ms
Woeser bypasses the controls with firewall-leaping software. She has
posted many updates to her nearly 30,000 Twitter followers about a
spate of self-immolations by protesting Tibetans, including the two
latest which reportedly occurred on August 13th in the town of Aba in
Sichuan. More than 50 Tibetans have been killed or injured by self-
immolation since February 2009.

The police often contact Ms Woeser to make their displeasure known. At
politically sensitive times, she and her husband, Wang Lixiong,
himself a Tibetologist and outspoken dissident, are sometimes kept
under virtual house arrest. Yet Ms Woeser, who worked for a state-
owned publication in Lhasa before falling foul of the authorities in
2004 because of her politically edgy writings, is undeterred. She also
uses China's home-grown version of Twitter, Sina Weibo, to post
messages under a pseudonym. Several times, Ms Woeser says, censors
have shut down her accounts.

Growing numbers of Tibetans are using Chinese microblogs, or weibo,
writing in both Chinese and Tibetan. Ms Woeser says that on the Dalai
Lama's 77th birthday on July 6th, many posted congratulatory messages
on weibo. Censors quickly deleted them, but the no-less vigilant Ms
Woeser passed on several through her blog. She believes the censors
employ ethnic Tibetans to help them.

Phoenix Weekly, a Hong Kong magazine, reported in June that China
Tibet Online, a government portal, had given up plans to host Tibetan-
language blogs because of the difficulty of censoring postings. It
said efforts to develop the sophisticated software needed to sniff out
sensitive content in Chinese were being hampered by a lack of proper
vocabulary databases in Tibetan and other ethnic-minority languages.
But it added that the police were testing an internet monitoring
system they think will help them.

Officials believe there are threats aplenty. A recent paper by
academics and a police official in the north-western city of Lanzhou
said the number of Tibetan internet users was growing "exponentially",
adding that this could provide a conduit for "harmful information".
Ironically, a Chinese state-owned company could be helping the
information flow. According to China Daily, a Beijing-based newspaper,
China Telecom launched the first Tibetan-language smartphone in June.
This, it said, had received an "enthusiastic reception", with some 700
sold so far.

*************


rst9

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May 11, 2013, 11:48:47 AM5/11/13
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Satish, why must you lie and post lies on soc.culture.china?
You don't know what it means to be a man, and understand less of being
a human.
You are an animal.

Satish

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May 13, 2013, 10:56:48 PM5/13/13
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Please don't mind rst0/9's totally irrelevant posts. He is under a lot
of mental stress. rst0/9, during every change of his catheter, has
been begging Meichi Thai for a Brazilian. And Meichi Thai has been
refusing to do anything beyond changing his catheter and his soiled
diapers. rst0/9 has lost his mental stability.

It must be rst0/rst9's senility that is speaking for him in his posts.
He attempts to reply to a post. But by the time he is ready to type in
his reply, he can no longer remember what/who he is replying to.
That's when he ripostes with his standard nonsensical paragraph of
inanities and profanities not just in the body of the post but, very
often, even in the title of the thread!!

rst0/rst9 is much like the old senile who is so far gone that by the
time he takes off his pants in the bedroom, he has forgotten why he
took them off. So he proceeds to pee and shit in his bed!!



rst0...@yahoo.com who apa rst9...@yahoo.com is a foul smelling
Quisling who is betraying his country not for the proverbial 30 pieces
of silver but for 50 cents per post from the Chinese Communist Party
(CCP) dictatorship in Beijing.


http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/3928/chineseman.gif

Meichi ThaI (rst0/9's live-in-nurse-cum-maid) has complained to the
Hmong neighbors on Twilight Avenue in Merced, CA about how filthy and
smelly are rst0/9's catheter and his diaper. And very rightly so.


rst0...@yahoo.com (apa rst9...@yahoo.com) of Twilight Avenue in
Merced, CA is indeed a very miserable grumpy old man of 75 - he was
born on February 26, 1938 in the year of the tiger.

rst9/rst0 is a 75-year old retiree. But his maturity belies his age.
rst9 is under the impression that it is not necessary to be rational
and factual if he can hurl choice insults and abuses !!!

74-year old rst0/rst9 will do himself a big favor if he enrolls
himself in some adult education school. Otherwise he'll continue to
make a spectacle of himself by revealing his appalling ignorance in
everything from history to English.

http://www.google.com/imgres?start=92&um=1&hl=en&biw=1280&bih=603&tbm=isch&tbnid=Utn4a7MYkQ2JpM:&imgrefurl=http://www.superstock.com/stock-photos-images/1566-940428&docid=oRzeY4equrxDaM&imgurl=http://wwwdelivery.superstock.com/WI/223/1566/PreviewComp/SuperStock_1566-940428.jpg&w=232&h=350&ei=EyzOT7v4HYT48wSwwbn8Cg&zoom=1

rst0/rst9 is indeed from Fujian who came to USA in 1949 as an 11-year
old to be reunited with the purported biological father. Today he is
74. He continues to live in USA shacking up with his gf in Merced,
CA.

But rst0/rst9's puerile behavior has less to do with his age and more
to do with his belief that ad hominem and bluster are enough to hide
the fact that he is incapable of summoning facts or logic to counter
topics that he does not approve of.

rst0/rst9 does not know how to debate. But he is determined to make an
unseemly scene in the hope that his temper tantrums will not only keep
him in the limelight, but more importantly, keep topics that he
detests off the newsgroup for discussion.

And if he can't get himself to do that, he should stop bilking USA and
go back to where his heart really resides, namely, the village of his
birth in China under CCP-dictatorship. That would be the honest thing
to do.

Of course, it is another matter that his gf in Merced, CA will refuse
to follow rst0/rst9 to CCP-land where any deviation of his newsgroup
posts from the official CCP-line will right away lead him to re-
education through labor ( 勞動教養 ). And, then, rst0 might indeed end up
peeing and shitting at the very sight of a keyboard.


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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_Party

The 50 Cent Party are Internet commentators (网络评论员, 網絡評論員, wǎnglù
pínglùn yuán) hired by the government of the People's Republic of
China (both local and central) or the Communist Party to post comments
favorable towards party policies in an attempt to shape and sway
public opinion on various Internet message boards. The commentators
are said to be paid for every post that either steers a discussion
away from anti-party or sensitive content on domestic websites,
bulletin board systems, and chatrooms, or that advances the Communist
party line.

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Chinese-Americans are by and large a patriotic lot. But there are a
few bad apples who go proactive with their bid to serve the colonial
agenda of CCP-dictatorship. These bad apples had often worked with
defense contractors like Lockheed, Boeing etc. but when opportunity
came they betrayed USA by selling company and US secrets to the CCP-
dictatorship. When caught with their pants down, these bad apples
inevitably landed in jail.


rst0/9, USA respects your freedom of speech. Unlike the CCP-
dictatorship in China, the US government is not going to monitor your
posts on the newsgroup and go after you for your rantings on the
internet. You can bark with impunity without any fear of reprisal by
the US government. But you will make a grave mistake if you ever try
to bite the hand that feeds you by selling Lockheed and US secrets to
the CCP-dictatorship. You will be eventually caught and spend the rest
of your golden years inside jail cells.


Try to be like the normal Chinese-Americans. Ambassador Gary Locke is
a good role model. He has won nothing but admiration from the
ordinary Chinese under CCP-dictatorship.He is far more respected by
the ordinary folks in China than the stinking fat cats in the party
politburo.


As a retired 75-year old, you have ample time in your hand. Your idle
brain has become the devil's workshop. You are 24/7 on the internet
pushing the evil agenda of the CCP-dictatorship in China. But if you
have any brain, you will bark but not bite to avoid ending up in jail
like a few Chinese Americans have for selling US to the CCP-
dictatorship in China for pecuniary gains.


China-born aerospace engineer Dogfang Greg Chung is the same age as 75-
year old rstx. rstx would be wise to steer himself away from the path
of treason that has earned the 75-year old Dongfan Gref Chung a 15
year prison sentence. Here's Dogfang Greg Chung's shameful story:


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http://articles.latimes.com/print/2010/feb/09/local/la-me-chinese-spy9-2010feb09


9-2-2010


Chinese-born engineer gets 15 years in spying for China
Dongfan 'Greg' Chung, who worked with Boeing and Rockwell
International, was accused of providing information on the space
shuttle and Delta IV rocket.
By Patrick J. McDonnell


A Chinese-born aerospace engineer who had access to sensitive material
while working with a pair of major defense contractors in Southern
California was sentenced Monday to more than 15 years in prison for
acquiring secret space shuttle data and other information for China.


U.S. District Judge Cormac J. Carney in Santa Ana imposed a 188-month
prison term on Dongfan "Greg" Chung, 73, a naturalized U.S. citizen
who lives in Orange.


Carney declared that he could not "put a price tag" on national
security and sought to send a signal to China to "stop sending your
spies here," according to the U.S. attorney's office.


Chung, who worked at Boeing's Huntington Beach plant, denied being a
spy and said he was gathering documents for a book, not for espionage.
His attorneys argued that much of the material was already available
on the public record.


At his sentencing, Chung professed his love for the United States,
even as prosecutors depicted him as a spy who would compromise U.S.
national security.


"Giving China advanced rocket technology is not in the United States'
national interest," said Assistant U.S. Atty. Greg Staples. "There is
a voracious appetite for U.S. technology in China."


Whether loyalty to his homeland or financial gain was Chung's motive
remained unclear. The case is one of a number of prosecutions that
have shed light on alleged Chinese efforts to gain access to U.S.
technology and research through espionage.


Chung was the first suspect tried with attempting to help a foreign
nation under the terms of the 1996 Economic Espionage Act, passed to
help prevent pilfering of sensitive economic information. Chung chose
to have the case heard by the judge rather than a jury.


Chung was convicted last year on charges of economic espionage and
acting as an agent for more than three decades while employed by
Rockwell International and Boeing Co.


When Chung was convicted, Carney said the case revealed Chung's
"secret life" as a "spy" for China. The case against him arose from an
investigation into another engineer, Chi Mak, who worked in the United
States and obtained sensitive military information for China. Mak and
several relatives were convicted of providing defense information to
China, the U.S. attorney's office said. Carney sentenced Mak to more
than 24 years in prison in 2008.


Federal authorities said Chung stole restricted technology and trade
secrets, including data related to the space shuttle and the Delta IV
rocket.


"This case demonstrates our resolve to protect the secrets that help
protect the United States, as well as the important technology
advancements developed by scientists working for companies that
provide crucial support to our national security programs," acting
U.S. Atty. George S. Cardona said Monday in a statement.


Chung held a "secret" security clearance when he worked at Rockwell
and Boeing on the space shuttle program, authorities said. He retired
in 2002 but the next year returned to Boeing as a contractor, a
position he held until September 2006, the U.S. attorney's office
said.


Between 1985 and 2003, Chung made trips to China to deliver lectures
on technology involving the space shuttle and other programs, the
government said. During those trips, Chung met with Chinese government
officials, including military agents, U.S. authorities said.




http://articles.latimes.com/print/2010/feb/09/local/la-me-chinese-spy9-2010feb09



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http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/chinese-citizen-sentenced-in-military-data-theft-case/2013/03/25/dc4567fa-9593-11e2-ae32-9ef60436f5c1_story.html

Washington Post
March 25, 2013

Chinese citizen sentenced in military data-theft case
By Peter Finn, Published: March 25

NEWARK, N.J. — Measured in millimeters, the tiny device was designed
to allow drones, missiles and rockets to hit targets without satellite
guidance. An advanced version was being developed secretly for the
U.S. military by a small company and L-3 Communications, a major
defense contractor.

On Monday, Sixing Liu, a Chinese citizen who worked at L-3’s space and
navigation division, was sentenced in federal court here to five years
and 10 months for taking thousands of files about the device, called a
disk resonator gyroscope, and other defense systems to China in
violation of a U.S. arms embargo.

The case illustrates what the FBI calls a growing “insider threat”
that hasn’t drawn as much attention as Chinese cyber operations. But
U.S. authorities warned that this type of espionage can be just as
damaging to national security and American business.

“The reason this technology is on the State Department munitions list,
and controlled . . . is it can navigate, control and position
missiles, aircraft, drones, bombs, lasers and targets very
accurately,” said David Smukowski, president of Sensors in Motion, the
small company in Bellvue, Wash., developing the technology with L-3.
“While it saves lives, it can also be very strategic. It is rocket
science.”

Smukowski estimated that the loss of this tiny piece of technology
alone could ultimately cost the U.S. military hundreds of millions of
dollars.

In the past four years, nearly 100 individual or corporate defendants
have been charged by the Justice Department with stealing trade
secrets or classified information for Chinese entities or exporting
military or dual-use technology to China, according to court records.
A number of other cases involving China remain under seal, according
to the Justice Department.

The targets of all this theft are some of the biggest and best-known
U.S. defense contractors and private companies, with household names
such as Northrop Grumman, Boeing, General Dynamics, Ford, DuPont and
Dow Chemical.

“America is a global leader in the development of military
technologies and, as such, it has become a leading target for the
theft and illicit transfer of such technologies,” said John Carlin,
acting assistant attorney general for national security. “These
schemes represent a threat to our national security. The intelligence
community has assessed China to be among the most aggressive
collectors of sensitive U.S. information and technologies and our
criminal prosecutions across the country reflect that assessment.”

Earlier this month, a Chinese citizen who worked as a contractor at
NASA’s Langley Research Center was arrested at Dulles Airport and
charged with making false statements to federal agents about the
laptop and SIM card he was carrying. According to an FBI affidavit,
the suspect, Bo Jiang, 31, had taken a NASA laptop that contained
sensitive information on a previous trip to China.

Following the arrest, Maj. Gen. Charles F. Bolden Jr., the NASA
administrator, told a House committee that he was limiting access to
NASA for the citizens of several countries, including China, pending a
full security review.

In a classic espionage case, a 59-year-old former Army defense
contractor in Hawaii was charged this month with passing classified
information to his 27-year-old Chinese lover whom he first met at a
military conference.

Benjamin Pierce Bishop, a former Army officer with a top-secret
security clearance, worked at U.S. Pacific Command as a contractor. He
is accused of turning over information about nuclear weapons, missile
defense, and radar systems. The woman may have attended the conference
“to target individuals . . . who work with and have access to U.S.
classified information,” according to an FBI affidavit.

Last year, the FBI began a public campaign to alert the defense
industry and other businesses to the “insider threat.” As part of the
effort, billboards were placed along commuter corridors near nine
leading research centers.

C. Frank Figliuzzi, the former head of the FBI’s Counterintelligence
Division, told Congress last year that perhaps the most important
measure against the theft of proprietary information “is identifying
and taking defensive measures against employees.”

Liu, who holds a doctorate in electrical engineering, came to the
United States in 1993 and held a series of jobs at Bandag and Primex,
tire manufacturers, and John Deere. In 2009, he went to work at L-3’s
space and navigation division in northern New Jersey, where he was
part of a team of engineers testing the technology created by Sensors
in Motion, a pioneer in gyroscope-based navigation and guidance
systems.

Liu made two trips to China, in 2009 and 2010, and each time he made
several presentations on the technology he was working on without the
permission of his employers, according to prosecutors. Before the
second trip, in November 2010, Liu made an electronic archive of his
work e-mail and transferred it to his personal computer along with the
entire Sensors in Motion program folder, according to court records.

Liu told his supervisor he was going on vacation to Chicago, but
instead he spent more than two weeks in China, speaking at a
technology conference organized by the Chinese government and Chinese
universities, prosecutors said.

Federal prosecutors said that Liu was in China to use his knowledge
about cutting-edge defense technology get a job at a premier Chinese
aeronautical institute. Along with thousands of proprietary documents,
Liu’s computer contained a lengthy résuméof 25 projects on which he
had worked for L-3; each project was identified by its connection to
the U.S. military, according to court records.

Liu was stopped on his return from China in November 2010 and
eventually arrested in March 2011. After a jury trial, Liu was
convicted last September of violating the Arms Export Control Act and
possessing and transporting stolen trade secrets.

In court Wednesday, Liu, the 50-year-old father of three, including
two U.S. citizens, told the judge that he did not intend to harm the
United States and suggested that the case was a political prosecution.

Addressing the judge before sentencing, he said he had a message for
his children, “Believe me, Daddy didn’t do anything.”

Liu’s attorney, James D. Tunick, interrupted his client’s rambling
speech several times, apparently to get Liu to tone down assertions
that the case was political. Tunick had previously argued that Liu
“only revealed very limited information in China” and the downloaded
documents were for the scientist’s “own personal knowledge.”

“Doctor, this is not a political prosecution,” said U.S. District
Court Judge Stanley R. Chesler who ruled that Liu’s actions benefited
the Chinese government. He noted that Liu downloaded documents for
programs in which he had no involvement, though the judge said Liu
knew “just how sensitive the material he had was.”

When FBI agents raided Liu’s house in March 2011, they found
proprietary material from Bandag, Primex and John Deere as well as
L-3. “We believe Sixing Liu was a serial thief,” said Assistant U.S.
Attorney L. Judson Welle, who had asked for an eight-year sentence.

Officials from the other companies declined to comment or did not
respond to requests from The Washington Post. But Smukowski of Sensors
in Motion said: “What a tragedy all around. For us, for him, and for
American technology prowess.”


*******************



http://www.newser.com/article/da0v55100/chinese-born-american-sentenced-to-4-years-in-prison-for-stealing-trade-secrets-from-motorola.html

AFP
August 29, 2012

Chinese-born American sentenced to 4 years in prison for stealing
trade secrets from Motorola
Motorola trade secrets thief gets 4-year term
By JASON KEYSER

A Chinese-born American convicted of stealing trade secrets from
Motorola was sentenced Wednesday to 4 years in prison in a case that
prosecutors hoped would send a message to those who might be tempted
to siphon vital information from U.S. companies.

Hanjuan Jin, who worked as a software engineer for Motorola Inc. for
nine years, was stopped during a random security search at O'Hare
International Airport on Feb. 28, 2007, before she could board a
flight to China. Prosecutors say she was carrying $31,000 and hundreds
of confidential Motorola documents, many stored on a laptop, four
external hard drives, thumb drives and other devices.

U.S. District Judge Ruben Castillo found Jin guilty in February of
stealing trade secrets but acquitted her of more serious charges of
economic espionage, explaining that the evidence fell short of proving
she stole the information on behalf of a foreign government or entity.

Prosecutors alleged that among the secrets she carried were
descriptions of a walkie-talkie type feature on Motorola cellphones
that prosecutors argued would have benefited the Chinese military.

Jin's lawyers say the naturalized U.S. citizen was not an agent of
China and took the files merely to refresh her knowledge after a long
absence from work. They asked the judge for probation and said in a
court filing last week that "Jin has overwhelming remorse and regret"
for her actions and "continues to suffer from the collateral
consequences of her admittedly poor choice."

After her conviction, prosecutors said they hoped the ruling would
send a message that such crimes come with heavy penalties. They said
they also hoped the trial would demonstrate to U.S. companies that
they can report such crimes and not risk their trade secrets being
revealed in court.

Prosecutors say the former University of Notre Dame graduate student
began downloading files at her Chicago-area Motorola office after
returning from an extended medical leave just a few days earlier.

During the trial, prosecutor Christopher Stetler told the court that
Jin "led a double life" as a seemingly loyal company worker who was
actually plotting to steal her employer's secrets.

Even before returning to Motorola to download files over the several
days in February 2007 prosecutors say Jin had already begun working
for China-based Sun Kaisens, a telecommunications firm that government
attorneys say develops products for China's military.

But the defense insisted Jin harbored no ill intent and merely grabbed
the files to refresh her technical knowledge after her long absence
from work. They also said prosecutors overvalued the technology in
question, saying the walkie-talkie feature is no longer cutting edge
and would have been of little military value.

In his February ruling, Judge Castillo wrote that the government
hadn't met several requirements to prove economic espionage, including
clearly demonstrating that Jin knew the materials she stole could
benefit China or its military.

Jin was allowed to remain free pending Wednesday's sentencing, though
she had to wear electronic monitoring and was confined to her Aurora
home.

Motorola Inc. has since become Motorola Solutions Inc., in suburban
Schaumburg.

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rst0

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Satish

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rst0

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May 14, 2013, 11:44:27 AM5/14/13
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Satish, why must you lie and post lies on soc.culture.china?
You don't know what it means to be a man, and understand less of being
a human.
You are an animal.

Satish, all you do is making up lies to post on this forum.
Why don't you go and post at soc.culture.indian.
That is where animals like you belongs.


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