Argentina is overwhelmed by Swine Flu
Ir. Hj. Othman bin Hj. Ahmad
Chile has far fewer deaths.
Deaths will be inevitable but at least we can reduce these deaths by
slowing down its spread. It allows our hospitals to treat Swine Flu
victims.
To treat Swine Flu as milder than common flu just because common flu
has killed millions so far is an understatement. Swine Flu will also
kill millions in later years, in addition to the millions that common
flu will kill.
Both are caused by pigs which incubate these flu viruses to make them
transmissible to humans. It is time for pork lovers to repent and stop
eating pork altogether.
Despite what some doctors say about Swine Flu that it does not infect
pigs, they are completely wrong based on data gathered from news.
Swine flu infects also pigs, and pigs to each other and therefore back
to humans. Similarly for common flu.
Common flu will kill millions despite having treatment and
vaccinations available, but Swine flu will kill millions assuming that
it is just as virulent as common flu, but actually it is many times
more virulent based on collected data so far, especially when it kills
all age groups equally, unlike common flu.
http://thinktwice.com/cdc_2001.pdf
Read this CDC data. common flu kills only 257 in a year.
Read this
http://www.thinktwice.com/flu_lie.htm
http://www.myfox8.com/news/nationworld/sns-ap-lt-swine-flu,0,4239431.story
Mexico's gets praise, Argentina and Britain criticism for swine flu
response as caseload grows
OLGA R. RODRIGUEZ Associated Press Writer
12:23 AM EDT, July 4, 2009
Jose Angel Cordova Villalobos
Mexico's Health Minister Jose Angel Cordova Villalobos attends during
the "Lessons Learned and Preparedness of Swine Flu" summit in Cancun,
Mexico, Friday, July3, 2009. Swine flu is running wild in the Southern
Hemisphere and is spreading rapidly through Europe, with Britain
projected to reach 100,000 daily cases by the end of August. The virus
is even showing signs of rebounding in Mexico. (AP Photo/Miguel Tovar)
(Miguel Tovar, AP / July 3, 2009)
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CANCUN, Mexico (AP) — As swine flu runs rampant in the Southern
Hemisphere winter, world health experts are concerned that some hard-
hit countries have been reluctant to take forceful measures to protect
public health.
Only Friday did Argentina's new health minister, Juan Manzur, raise
the country's official death toll to 44. He now estimates that as many
as 320,000 people have been stricken with influenza, including about
100,000 with swine flu — a huge jump in what the government
acknowledged previously, and an indication that Argentina's hospitals
will remain overwhelmed for months.
Britain, for its part, had refused to do widespread testing for swine
flu, slowing the World Health Organization's efforts to declare that
the viral spread had become a pandemic. Britain's Health Minister Andy
Burnham belatedly acknowledged Thursday that Britain needs to revamp
its response and could see up to 100,000 new swine flu cases a day by
the end of August.
The government was reluctant to implement unpopular measures leading
up to last Sunday's midterm elections in Argentina. Now that they're
over, it ramped up its response this week — doubling the winter
vacation to a month for schools nationwide, sending pregnant women and
other vulnerable workers home for 15 days and urging people to avoid
crowds whenever possible.
But Argentina still refuses to declare a national public health
emergency, despite ranking third in the world for swine flu deaths
behind the United States and Mexico.
"An unfortunate situation in Argentina was this mix of elections and a
pandemic, which we epidemiologists don't recommend," said Mirta Roses,
director of the Pan American Health Organization, which has 25 experts
working in Argentina this week.
Mexico, in contrast, deserves the whole world's thanks for its
forceful, costly and very public response, which included a near-total
shutdown of the nation's public life that cost the country $3.5
billion.
It helped slow the initial spread of the virus and gave other nations
more time to prepare, said World Health Organization Director-General
Dr. Margaret Chan.
"Mexico gave the world an early warning, and it also gave the world a
model of rapid and transparent reporting, aggressive control measures,
and generous sharing of data and samples," Chan said Thursday during a
two-day summit of health ministers in Cancun.
Just how effective Mexico's draconian response was will take some time
to determine, because scientists will have to compare what was done
with what might have happened had the country done nothing, said Nancy
Cox, who leads the influenza division of the U.S. Centers for Disease
Control and Prevention.
"However, they were so courageous to do what they did. It impressed
the entire world," Cox said.
Mexican President Felipe Calderon also faced resistance at home — he
said some state officials wanted to hide the numbers for fear it would
cause panic, but he overruled them. Mexico's toll has since risen to
10,687 cases, including 119 deaths.
"For many people across the world, Mexico was demonized precisely
because it was providing truthful information," Calderon said.
The national shutdown in Mexico prompted Cuba and Argentina to cancel
flights to Mexico and left a stigma that still hurts Mexico's all-
important tourism industry. But Calderon said Mexico's reaction
"allowed other countries to take preventive measures or activate their
emergency programs."
Mexico's public health system also was overwhelmed initially, as
doctors struggled to figure out how to fight the strange new virus.
Now they know that most patients survive if given proper treatment
quickly, and that common seasonal influenza kills many more people.
Even so, Argentina and Chile have struggled with huge caseloads.
"What's going on in the Southern Hemisphere really has lessons for
everybody," said Dr. Keiji Fukuda, the WHO's top flu expert. "We have
learned how important preparedness is."
But no amount of preparation can make up for systemic weaknesses, Cox
said.
"If your health care system is already strained prior to the advent of
a new disease that is causing a lot of infection in people, you are
going to have tremendous problem with cases piling up," she said.
Chile has 7,342 confirmed swine flu cases, compared to 1,587 for
Argentina, but only 15 deaths, in part because it had more antiviral
drugs stockpiled and was able to respond more proactively. Argentina —
already facing a huge caseload of bronchitis and common flu cases —
hasn't had enough ventilators to treat everyone, Cox said.
"There are all these unexpected events that occur when you have a new
pathogen, and some of these have played in the situation in
Argentina," Cox said.
Australia has the most cases in the Asia-Pacific region — more than
4,568, including 10 deaths. Worldwide, the WHO said there were 337
deaths and more than 80,000 confirmed cases in 121 countries this
week.
____
AP Medical Writer Maria Cheng in London and Vicente Panetta in Buenos
Aires contributed to this report.
Ir. Hj. Othman bin Hj. Ahmad
> On Sat, 4 Jul 2009 00:12:47 -0700 (PDT), "Ir. Hj. Othman bin Hj.
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> >http://thinktwice.com/cdc_2001.pdf
> >Read this CDC data. common flu kills only 257 in a year.
>
> It does if you don't know that ICD J12 and J18 include influenza!
>
> You have little knowledge and you use it unwisely.
What knowledge is required when you just read the data.
CDC wrote that flu fatality is only 257, so should it be.
It is not mentioned in the data so it should be included in the flu
fatality of 257.
What is the point of knowledge that is not based on facts?
I just refer to the facts as they are presented and comment on them.
CDC should be honest in admitting that the 32,000 figure is only an
estimate but not confirmed but because flu figure is shown, it shows
that flu was detected where possible.
Maybe it is time to start detecting flu vigorously in cases of
pneumonia but currently it is clearly shown that NONE had been due to
common flu. All had been due to Swine flu which shows that Swine flu
is infinitely more virulent than common flu.
>
> You call any death associated with A(H1N1) "due to A(H1N1)",
> whilst ignoring, in this instance, the 34,000 odd deaths associated
> with seasonal A in categories J12 and J18 for your own convenience.
> Other parts of the pneumonia stats also include Influenza A mortality.
Not shown in the data.
>
> You are also using cherry picked data....
I don't. It is you who created your own data instead of relying on
published data.
>
> >Read this
> >http://www.thinktwice.com/flu_lie.htm
>
> Clearly someone with an understanding equal to your own. That is to
> say, profoundly ignorant and full of self importance.
Look at the data. It comes from CDC.
>
> They are to Medicine what the perpetual motion and free energy nuts
> are to Physics.
I believe that is you. You don't even rely on the data published.
Instead relying on your so called knowledge.
...
Ir. Hj. Othman bin Hj. Ahmad
> On Sun,5Jul200916:40:33-0700(PDT), "Ir. Hj. Othman bin Hj.
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> When you claim no flu deaths in certain categories, or none in
> Australia this year, it is perfectly proper for me to point out that
> this is false on the basis of my personal knowledge of such deaths.
Your personal knowledge can be misleading in such cases, just as my
personal knowledge of no deaths at all from flu.
>
> You rely on misinterpreting statistics alone solely because you have
data is statistics. Statistics is more reliable than personal
experiences.
It summerises the facts from all sources of knowledge, not just from
ourselves.
> zero experience, zero knowledge, and it would seem, zero ethics.
Living is part of experience. Aren't you aware of that?
> But your mathematical skills are only half arsed, rather than zero.
You don't need advanced mathematical skills to interpret the data.
Just honesty.
Maybe you'd like to analyse the data here:
http://www.eurosurveillance.org/ViewArticle.aspx?ArticleId=19255
Ir. Hj. Othman bin Hj. Ahmad
> On Mon,6Jul200906:35:17-0700(PDT), "Ir. Hj. Othman bin Hj.
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> >Maybe you'd like to analyse the data here:
>
> >http://www.eurosurveillance.org/ViewArticle.aspx?ArticleId=19255
>
> My analysis -
> The data disproves your claims.
On the contrary. It disproves your claims about Swine flu being milder
than normal flu.
also the estimated data on common flu deaths in USA.
>
> --
> Cheers
> Paul Saccani
> Perth, Western Australia.
Ir. Hj. Othman bin Hj. Ahmad
> On Wed,8Jul200906:55:01-0700(PDT), "Ir. Hj. Othman bin Hj.
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> >> >Maybe you'd like to analyse the data here:
>
> >> >http://www.eurosurveillance.org/ViewArticle.aspx?ArticleId=19255
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> It is self evident that you have no idea what the study says.
It proves that you have not read the article in full.