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FACEBOOK IS GOING IPO RIGHT NOW

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ກາສາລາວ

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Feb 2, 2012, 10:58:27 PM2/2/12
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What is Facebook worth?

As investors dug into the company's freshly released financials
Wednesday, analysts and investors began circulating a range of values—
from as little as $50 billion to as much as $125 billion—for the
social-networking website.

It will be months before the market sets a final price, but already
the valuation question has become a tug of war over two essential
questions: Just how fast can the company continue to grow? And can it
extract value from advertising in the way it plans?

The company views itself through a relatively conservative lens,
pegging its value for employee stock grants ...

ກາສາລາວ

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Feb 2, 2012, 11:05:52 PM2/2/12
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HERLAO, NTY, MYSELF AND SOME SCL MEMBERS MAY KNOW A THING OR TWO ABOUT
STOCK INVESTMENTS. BACK IN 2000, WE WERE SO BUSY WITH THE TECH STOCK
BUBBLE ONLY TO BURST OPEN A YEAR LATER.

WE WERE ALL DEFLATED. MOST TECH STOCKS TANKED HORRIBLY. THE ONES THAT
SURVIVED DID GO ON TO GREENER PASTURE LIKE GOOGLE.

MY ONLY REGRET IN LIFE IS THAT I DIDN'T BUY APPLE WHEN IT WAS LOWEST
AT 8 DOLLARS A SHARE AROUND LATE 2000 OR EARLY 2001. AND NOW APPLE IS
HOVERING AROUND 500 DOLLARS A SHARE.I WAS GONNA BUY 2000 SHARES AT 8
DOLLARS A POP ONLY TO BACK OUT AT THE LAST MINUTE. I REALLY WANT TO
KICK MYSELF IN THE REAR ASS NOW.

NOW FACEBOOK IS ABOUT TO GO IPO BIG TIME. MARC ZUCKERBERG IS SET TO
MAKE MANY BILLION DOLLARS.

ກາສາລາວ

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Feb 2, 2012, 11:10:14 PM2/2/12
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David Choe, San Jose Graffiti Artist, Set To Make $200 Million In
Facebook IPO

If we have learned anything from this week's IPO announcement, it's
that it's good to bet on Facebook.

Since the company announced its decision to go public on Wednesday,
Facebook employees and early investors must be bouncing off the walls
over staggering reported earnings. (Mark Zuckerberg's reported pull?
$28.4 billion with a B.) But our favorite member of the Facebook IPO
instant millionaire club is undoubtedly homeless San Jose graffiti
artist David Choe.

ກາສາລາວ

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Feb 2, 2012, 11:12:42 PM2/2/12
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Expressing brilliant foresight, Choe reportedly opted for stock
options instead of payment in 2005 for covering the walls of Facebook
headquarters with spray-painted murals. (Check out the video below for
baby 20-year-old Zuckerberg spray-painting stick figures.) Since then,
Choe has been homeless, "wandering the earth, making good art and bad
music," according to his website. The sum the art-school dropout
stands to make come May: a cool $200 million.

ກາສາລາວ

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Feb 2, 2012, 11:15:27 PM2/2/12
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On his blog, Choe expressed his excitement and disbelief over the
news:

"FUck, have you had the dream where you ARE this guy?!? And then some
kind of happy accident happens, and as you're in the middle of this
glorious car crash you stop to realize that there is actually no such
thing as an accident, and no chance encounters, and that everything
has a direct purpose? [...] then I get up and see my picture on the
cover of the New York Times and I find out that I'm the most highest
paid decorator alive."

ກາສາລາວ

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Feb 2, 2012, 11:17:38 PM2/2/12
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Choe was asked to paint the Palo Alto offices and was given a payment
option by then-President Sean Parker: a few thousand dollars or the
equivalent in stock options. According to the New York Times, Choe
originally thought the idea of Facebook was "ridiculous and
pointless," but he fortunately still chose the latter. "Always double
down on 11," said Choe in his art book, quoted by the Times. "Always."

In fairness, Choe's living situation may be more of a personal choice
than a financial one. (Choe's work is a regular fixture at San
Francisco's Upper Playground and is displayed in major museums.) But
we can only imagine what Wednesday morning must have been like.

ກາສາລາວ

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Feb 2, 2012, 11:25:13 PM2/2/12
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Check out Choe and Zuckerberg spray-painting the Facebook headquarters
in this 2005 video: http://youtu.be/QfV665kWoSg

Her Lao

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Feb 3, 2012, 10:31:32 AM2/3/12
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It's okay, casalao.... the bubble's really just a consolidation....
the good ones, very few but there were good ones like GOOGLE, survive
because they have real information...

FACEBOOK is just a gossip site; it is crazily popular right now, like
AOL used to be,,, but it is just that: a gossip site that has about
800M or 900M users INFORMATION, private information which FACEBOOK
could sell to ad companies.

Oh, sure, with tens of billions of dollars FACEBOOK could buy real
tecnologies.... but it is nothing more than a gossip site, nothing
like GOOGLE.

I've never use FACEBOOK and never think much of it, since I already
had an AOL experience and it's nothing. Google's YOUTUBE is also a
entertainment site, but at least it has a lot of OLD CLASSICS and all
the new publication of any thing on earth that is VISUAL....

And in YOUTUBE you could get millions of hours of VISUAL educational
lectures!, now part of GOOGLE, too, of course. That's all I need.

Those of us who got burnt in the tech bubble 10 years ago.... it's
time to pay attention to the MATURING fields of medicine, as a
consequence of the HUMAN GENOME PROJECT.

And although "personalized medicine" and such have not come to pass as
quickly, it is now slowly trickling in....

The 3 emerging fields that has been banking on the vast knowledge/
information of GENOMIC SCIENCES are:

Stem Cells
Gene Therapy
DNA Vaccines

All of them dealing with the CELL and how it repairs itself, how it
can be grown or regrown (when damaged), and how it can be trained to
fight cancerous cells and infectious diseases like viruses and
bacteria....

All of them are still now a bit separate; but they will converge and
usher in the next generation of medicine.

Most of our meats from animals like fish, pigs, and cattle are already
part of DNA VACCINATION programs.

The UNIVERSAL FLU VACCINES will come to pass in the next 3-5 years; it
is almost guaranteed. Right now, scientists have pretty much
exhausted all of the major components of how the INFLUENZA viruses
(its various strains) have been able to escape traditional molecules.

DNA vaccination --- working in a similar way to how Salk and Sabine's
POLIO vaccination drugs work in the 1950s and 60s --- WILL pretty much
cover all of the types and subtypes of known and unknown viruses that
cause both SEASONAL FLU and Swine and Bird Flu.

Oxford University and the University of Southampton, January 31, 2012
announced they've found the PEPTIDE molecules that FLU viruses use....
in addition to all the other protein molecules OUTSIDE of the viral
capsule that normal, specific FLU drugs attack decently.... And there
are a few American companies already working on putting the LAST set
of data together, to start a TRUE UNIVERSAL FLU VACCINE on humans in
about 10 months....

One of the small pharmaceutical companies I think has a good shot ---
a company that has already shown that its DNA vaccines protects
ANIMALS from all the known types and subtypes of flu recorded in the
last 10 years... and including the Spanish flu of 1918 --- is called
INOVIO Pharmaceuticals. The CEO in charge is a young, 42 year-old
from the University of Pennsylvania who worked at MERCK before leaving
it to start his own company...

His second in command is also a researcher/doctor from MERCK, too.
And the third guy is a bright Indian American who attended both
CalTech and MIT, so these are very bright guys...... So I am keeping a
very close eye on this little company and 2-3 other small companies.
There are giant pharmaceuticals doing the same thing... but GAINS from
investing in the large ones don't amount to much... but if any of
these little $100M-$300M little guys should CRACK the UNIVERSAL
VACCINE CODE.... their market cap could go from 100-300 million to 1B
or 2B or 5B.... That's what we need to watch out for...

And UNIVERAL VACCINES are not the traditional flu shots for specific
type of flu, mind you.... This time, the vaccination is targeting the
MOST CONSERVED genetic parts of ALL KNOWN and UNKNOWN viruses since
the Spanish Influenza in the 1918 era that killed 50M people...

Gene Therapeuctic medicine is already starting to trickle in, although
still not perfect, since they only help sustain life no more than a
few months to a year or two, at most. But those are death sentences
without the medicine anyway, so if a person has 4-15 more months, with
gene therapy, they'd go for it.

Stem cells are already curing or helping many conditions, particularly
GENETIC conditions that traditional molecules can't do much for...

DownUnder

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Feb 7, 2012, 11:22:46 PM2/7/12
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You can get some share from PanAustralia...$AU 3.60/share.\

See here for production in 2011;
http://www.panaust.com.au/sites/default/files/panaust_ends_2011_on_a_...

PanAust estimates that 2012 production at Phu Kham will be between
63,000 and 65,000 tonnes of copper in concentrate at an average C1
cash cost of between US$1.05 and US$1.15 per pound copper after
precious metal credits from 50,000 to 55,000 ounces gold, and 550,000
to 600,000 ounces silver.

* Cash cost guidance assumes by-product credits based on average gold
and silver prices for 2012 of US$1,800 and US$30 per ounce
respectively.
http://www.panaust.com.au/phu-kham-copper-gold-operation

http://www.panaustralian.com.au/company-profile
http://www.panaustralian.com.au/laos

So... it is not all lost.

du



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lets calculate some simple cash on the minimum
I. 50,000 ounce gold at $1,800 ==90 million
II. 550,000 ounce of silver at $30==16.5 millions
III. 63,000 tonnes of copper at $1.05 a pound==132 millions

so we are talking about $238 millions for a year of mining operation.
of that say 10 percent $23.8 millions goes to the LPDR leader pockets
there are still over $200 millions income for the oz company.


--idnk

pizone

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Feb 8, 2012, 1:38:35 PM2/8/12
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90% of lao national gold, copper and silver goes out of laoland to the
pocket of foreigners, 10% goes in the pocket of the communist leaders,
that's why the neolao and neocommunist fought the 'potpoy' xat-lao.
that's why lao innocent fighters fought for and sacrified their life
for...

laonai people should think about this greedy commu leaders behavior
and change this garbage commu regime once for ever...

pizone

On Feb 7, 8:22 pm, DownUnder <drpao...@dex.hmoob.net> wrote:
> You can get some share from PanAustralia...$AU 3.60/share.\
>
> See here for production in 2011;http://www.panaust.com.au/sites/default/files/panaust_ends_2011_on_a_...
>
> PanAust estimates that 2012 production at Phu Kham will be between
> 63,000 and 65,000 tonnes of copper in concentrate at an average C1
> cash cost of between US$1.05 and US$1.15 per pound copper after
> precious metal credits from 50,000 to 55,000 ounces gold, and 550,000
> to 600,000 ounces silver.
>
>  * Cash cost guidance assumes by-product credits based on average gold
> and silver prices for 2012 of US$1,800 and US$30 per ounce
> respectively.http://www.panaust.com.au/phu-kham-copper-gold-operation
>
> http://www.panaustralian.com.au/company-profilehttp://www.panaustralian.com.au/laos
> > MAKE MANY BILLION DOLLARS.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Her Lao

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Feb 8, 2012, 3:02:41 PM2/8/12
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On Feb 7, 10:22 pm, DownUnder <drpao...@dex.hmoob.net> wrote:
> You can get some share from PanAustralia...$AU 3.60/share.\

>
> so we are talking about $238 millions for a year of mining operation.
> of that say 10 percent $23.8 millions goes to the LPDR leader pockets
> there are still over $200 millions income for the oz company.
>


+++++++++++++++++++

That's about the "profit" margin when Europeans used to go down to
Africa and started rounding up the strongest men and women --- African
men and women --- and put them on chains and took them to ports,
loaded them up in different stacks under ship bellies, and sailed for
South and North America...

Because those slavers from Europe HAD to pay for the INITIAL ships,
the food and necesseties needed to go on capturing slaves, feeding
them, and transporting them to the new world --- "virgin lands" ....
NOT just any average Europeans could organize such slave hunt. You
had to be pretty wealthy, and have to spend (in today's term) quite a
few millions, in order to get the slaves you wanted.

If Australians could go to Laos, with $500M or $2B INITIAL investment
(paying for the Aussie Engineers, trucks, drilling machines, etc.) and
each year they dig up and haul away $200M WORTH of minerals and other
raw resources back to Australia and Laos top LPDR gets a mere $24M,
Australians have got to be completely dumb and stupid not to do it.

Yes, it does cost quite a bit of INITIAL spending, but they've already
spend some months to years surveying with good technology and
scientists, and they KNEW to great degree they will, within a few
years, recoup ALL of those initial $500M or $2B back and profit $3B-
$8B worth from Laos, by taking REAL WEALTH in RAW NATURAL resources
back to Australia.

It's not just Laos; Australia is DIGGING all over Asia.... go to
Thailand, Malaysia, and espeically Indonesia: there are giant mines
of all types and the Aussies are digging up LITERALLY TENS of MILLIONS
of tons of Southeast Asian raw, natural resources and minerals.... and
the "profit" the LOCAL AUTHORITIES get are just literally small stale
bread crumbs...

This is natural: the advanced countries and people use BRAINS; and
they prosper from exploiting the less able, less educated, and non-
technological people/countries whose leaders are in no shape or form
to understand how their local resources are being dug up, cut down,
LEASED, and/or exploited and taken away... So long as these small,
uneducated leaders get tiny crumbs, they are okay.... because if those
resources are left in their land, they WON'T KNOW how to use them
anyway, because their societies don't have the machinery, fabrication
processes, scientists and engineers, etc. to get to those raw
resources and minirals....

ຜີ

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Feb 8, 2012, 4:53:47 PM2/8/12
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I think that the faster they took those natural resources the faster
they, foreigners, will leave Laos alone. Well, alone in a sense that
they will not be stealing from Lao people. When it's gone it's gone.

Right now we are feeling like an idiot because only few Lao families
shared these wealths with foreigners. People who are raking it in
right now don't think they are idiots. They are smart. I think they
are too. Good model citizen? Nope. Corrupted and scumbag? Yep. Just
like King of Thighland who is raking in $30 billion dollars from
exploiting his power and of his country resources is a smart guy. Many
might think he's a good guy but in reality he's the worst there is.
Unfortunately nature keep producing both kinds of these people and the
worst seems to dominate the world.

In the end there will be another revolution to start it all over. It
will be couple cycles then we will get it right or well enough to have
majority happy..or by that time we will have nothing to fight for. No
gold, no silver, no copper, no clean water to drink...maybe not even a
country left to fight for. Maybe that's a good thing.

ທ້າວໄຂ່ມືດ

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Feb 8, 2012, 10:29:41 PM2/8/12
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On Feb 8, 1:38 pm, pizone <PIZ...@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:
> 90% of lao national gold, copper and silver goes out of laoland to the
> pocket of foreigners, 10% goes in the pocket of the communist leaders,
> that's why the neolao and neocommunist fought the 'potpoy' xat-lao.
> that's why lao innocent fighters fought for and sacrified their life
> for...
>
> laonai people should think about this greedy commu leaders behavior
> and change this garbage commu regime once for ever...
>
> pizone
>
> On Feb 7, 8:22 pm, DownUnder <drpao...@dex.hmoob.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > You can get some share from PanAustralia...$AU 3.60/share.\
>
> > See here for production in 2011;http://www.panaust.com.au/sites/default/files/panaust_ends_2011_on_a_...
>
> > PanAust estimates that 2012 production at Phu Kham will be between
> > 63,000 and 65,000 tonnes of copper in concentrate at an average C1
> > cash cost of between US$1.05 and US$1.15 per pound copper after
> > precious metal credits from 50,000 to 55,000 ounces gold, and 550,000
> > to 600,000 ounces silver.
>
> >  * Cash cost guidance assumes by-product credits based on average gold
> > and silver prices for 2012 of US$1,800 and US$30 per ounce
> > respectively.http://www.panaust.com.au/phu-kham-copper-gold-operation
>
> >http://www.panaustralian.com.au/company-profilehttp://www.panaustrali...
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Her Lao

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+++++++++++++++++++

But it's not always coming in, digging up, and hauling away Laos, or
Venezuela, or India, or Burma, or Nigeria, or Niger, or South Sudan,
or Brazil's, or the Congo, or the Democratic Republic of the Congo, or
Indonesia's raw resources..... and both countries getting something
(like in Laos, it getting $24M and Australia getting $200M, a
year)....

Sometimes they leave TONS of very toxic chemicals behind in the
ground, rivers, underground water, air, trees, and other organisms and
creatures.... Whole regions are so damaged and toxicified from the
dozens of made-made chemicals used by the advanced countries.... to
get to and to process/filter the wanted resources (rare minerals,
gold, silver, what-not).... the Native/local people can't use such
lands near such places again....

What do the LOCAL authorities do? They basically put up signs:
"Toxic No Entrance." Or, "Government Properties No Tresspassing."

That's how little victimized countries and governments PREVENT their
citizens from questioning how their countries, their environments, are
being exploited and destroyed by the rich, educated, and post-
industrialized people and countries.

Here, a here few samples (obviously, people have to be educated in
order to find out these events from around the world):

#1: Niger's devastation

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/may/30/oil-spills-nigeria-niger-delta-shell

#2: Hell, even in Canada!, where poor people's and Natives former
lands, lands they had been hunting and fishing for 12,000 years....
now under the White Canadian government, and Canada being so big, with
so much oil, as free oil and as oil trapped in sand and rock, where
you have to used tons of toxic chemicals to separate oil from sand/
rock, they clear mine-strip dozens of square miles, spraying so much
chemicals on the ground, they seep into lakes and rivers and
underground waters hundreds of miles away, downstream...

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2010/05/16/94126/quest-for-oil-leaves-trail-of.html

#3: Chevron and the Amazon, the destruction of so much of the Natives
resources, it SHOULD really be CRIMINAL, with CORPORATION are believed
by folks like the majority of the USA Supreme Court members, Newt,
Romney, and Cons, etc. TO BE PEOPLE:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2011/sep/20/chevron-amazon-pollution-battle
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/jan/04/chevron-accused-racism-ecuador-pollution


#4: Indonesia in the rainforest rich Papua region and the even less
developed newer country of Papua New Guinea:

http://www.scpr.org/news/2011/11/16/29908/in-indonesia-anger-against-mining-giant-grows/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zbqe7TsJ7D4

There are thousands of very well photographed and videotaped
documentaries (if people don't want to read pages of "boring" writing
information) on how giant Western conglomerates like Exxon-Mobil,
Shell, Chevron, and such are LITERALLY destroying MILLIONS of square
miles of land, rivers, lakes, mountains, and other ecosystems around
the world, to search for, extract, and haul away NATIVE RESOURCES from
countries and people NOT equipped to deal or compete with them.

The GOLD MINING in Papua New Guinea, shown in the Human Rights Watch
YouTube video above examplifies the tragedy that small countries and
Natives have to suffer, in order to keep enriching the already very
rich nations and people of the West.

As Doctor Pao said, the arrangements are usually the same
everywhere:

the Invading/Exploiting countries get 80-90% of the PROFIT and the
RESOURCES, and the invaded country, the exploited country and people,
get MERELY 10-20% of JUST THE "PROFIT" from the resources extracted.
NOT THE RESOURCES, which are really THE WEALTH!, because the wealth/
resources are what's being taken away to build and to enrich the
already rich countries.....

But "democratic countries" like Australia, the USA, France, England,
etc.... they LOVE small dictatorial countries the most, when it comes
to exploiting the LANDS for oil, gas, gold, silver, zinc, copper,
diamond, aluminum, platinum, uranium, and rare earth minerals....
because dictatorial countries like Laos, Vietnam, Saudi Arabia,
Khazakstan, Qatar, Indonesia, Burma, etc.... the WESTERN countries do
NOT have to deal with THE PEOPLE, the locals; the DICTATORS who rule
those countries simply silence any protest from the citizens.... and
that's it!

In very powerful countries, with decent mechanisms of "checks and
balances" in INSTITUTIONAL set ups at the state and central
governments, if the situations are really bad and if you're able to
get enough signatures, you could lodge complaints or even SUE the
federal government OR companies.... and the COURT MAY EVEN take time
to listen, if it is bad enough... and in RARE occasions, the court MAY
EVEN demand that the government or coporation stop or compensate the
people who live near the damaged landscapes and environments....

How are you going to do that in dictatorial societies like Laos, where
the government controls every instituion in society and whatever it
does, as Pol Pot's famous line says, "Whatever we do, we do it for the
People"? How are you going to complain or sue the GOVERNMENT in
dictatorial societies?

NTY

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here are how many lao natiobal resources were taken out to foreigners
ubder this garbage commu regime and those stupid 'salat-songsai' commu
leaders,

The Mineral Industry of Laos

2005 2006 2007 2008 2009
Copper (tons):
30,480 60,803 62,541 64,075 67,561


Gold (kilograms)
6,232 6,068 5,137 4,333 5,033

silver (kilograms)
3,405 6,331 4,500 6,700 14,726

the detail and more lao resources can be found here,
http://minerals.usgs.gov/minerals/pubs/country/2009/myb3-2009-la.pdf

not to mention that how many deathly chemicals were/are spilled all
over lao land.

pizone
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/may/30/oil-spills-nigeria-niger-...
>
> #2:  Hell, even in Canada!, where poor people's and Natives former
> lands, lands they had been hunting and fishing for 12,000 years....
> now under the White Canadian government, and Canada being so big, with
> so much oil, as free oil and as oil trapped in sand and rock, where
> you have to used tons of toxic chemicals to separate oil from sand/
> rock, they clear mine-strip dozens of square miles, spraying so much
> chemicals on the ground, they seep into lakes and rivers and
> underground waters hundreds of miles away, downstream...
>
> http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2010/05/16/94126/quest-for-oil-leaves-trai...
>
> #3:  Chevron and the Amazon, the destruction of so much of the Natives
> resources, it SHOULD really be CRIMINAL, with CORPORATION are believed
> by folks like the majority of the USA Supreme Court members, Newt,
> Romney, and Cons, etc. TO BE PEOPLE:
>
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2011/sep/20/chevron-amazon-polluti...http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/jan/04/chevron-accused-racism...
>
> #4:  Indonesia in the rainforest rich Papua region and the even less
> developed newer country of Papua New Guinea:
>
> http://www.scpr.org/news/2011/11/16/29908/in-indonesia-anger-against-...
> dictatorial societies?- Hide quoted text -

Her Lao

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On Feb 10, 11:21 am, pizone <PIZ...@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:
> here are how many lao natiobal resources were taken out to foreigners
> ubder this garbage commu regime and those stupid 'salat-songsai' commu
> leaders,
>
> The Mineral Industry of Laos
>
> 2005    2006    2007    2008    2009
> Copper (tons):
> 30,480  60,803  62,541  64,075  67,561
>
> Gold (kilograms)
> 6,232   6,068   5,137   4,333   5,033
>
> silver (kilograms)
> 3,405   6,331   4,500   6,700   14,726
>
> the detail and more lao resources can be found here,http://minerals.usgs.gov/minerals/pubs/country/2009/myb3-2009-la.pdf
>
> not to mention that how many deathly chemicals were/are spilled all
> over lao land.
>
> pizone
>
+++++++++++++++++++++++++

My ranting was to point out that countries with either corrupt leaders/
systems OR low technology/education, and/or BOTH are almost always
victims of those with high technology, with advanced education.

You could put the most corrupt leader in Washington --- maybe Obama
is, maybe Bush was --- it hardly matters, because the countries BROAD
policies (particularly foreign policies, from politics/geo-politics to
trade to exploration and exploitation) --- and Shell, Exxon-Mobil,
Shevron, Mitt Romney's Vulture Capital Bain, etc. WILL STILL be able
to go into ANY poor country in the world, IF THEY HAD NATURAL
RESOURCES, and take them.

The FLIPPED SIDE is not so true: Let's say, somehow, against all
reason and expection, some really smart Lao dude from the Community
Party made it to the very top post in Laos.

You think he's gonna be able to transform Laos society or THE PARTY?

That lawmaker we saw giving a short speech a couple months ago,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iV3TH1DKygc&feature=player_embedded

To me, HE seems decently REFLECTIVE and, thus, bright. What are the
chances of someone like him making to the top post in Laos? Next to
none. The system and the core leaders in charge of it are just to
protractedly regressive and uneducated.

Most or all of them (Laos core, top leaders) are more like our Comrade
Ambassador "Thanouxay" to Turkey and occasional frequenter here in
SCL.... They have little or not doubt their SYSTEM --- which is really
not theirs, as Khampheuy Panemalaythong said in his short reflection
--- IS THE ONLY SYSTEM needed, or will ever be needed, because it is
the "correct" system. They say Laos people are PERFECTLY happy with
such a system, a "rebranded Trotsky-Lenin-Stalin" communist system
that pretty much brankrupted the Russian people after 70-80 years, and
so Laos people, the "CORRECT LEADERSHIP" SAYS, need no other ways of
thinking or doing things...

Again, despite THIS VIEW of mine, I am NOT against Communism. I think
if it is JUST ONE of the many allowed POLITICAL PARTIES and IDEOLOGY
of the people.... then it is PERFECTLY healthy.

When people have choices, when they are allowed to have choices, when
they KNOW they have choices in life, in thinking, in whatever.....
they DO MAKE MISTAKES; but those mistakes SERVE AS GUIDE POSTS, as
MILESTONES, in human thoughts and affairs and endeavors.

When you IMPOSE on the people that there is ONLY ONE WAY OF THINKING,
ONE PARTY, ONE IDEOLOGY allowed, you raise generations of TIMID
people; people who don't really truly question themselves and others
around them. Whatever they need --- ideas or things --- they say, "We
have GOOD LEADERS, CORRECT LEADERS, to show us, to guide us."

That's why a FEW countries and a FEW PEOPLE are at the top, exploiting
others, the masses of the world: raw natural resources are only as
good as the HUMAN CAPITAL that you have in a people and a country.

A 15-year-old girl or boy SAILING around the world, solo, or more
realistically a team of early 1900s explorers racing to the North or
South poles TAKES MORE BRAIN POWER than all of Laos leaders in the
last 35 years.

How do I know this? I can guarantee this: if you put me, you,
Thanouxay, Dr. Pao, Casalso, or Joe the Plumber in charge of Laos
Communist Party and were told to guide it exactly as it's been
functioning since its inception, WITHOUT ANY ONE CHALLENGING it and
all who did were to be immediately silenced.... I GUARANTEE you we
would do no better or worse: we would pretty much do it as it's been
done since the 1970s.

But if someone told me, you, Dr. Pao, Thanouxay, Casalao, what-not to
SAIL AROUND THE WORLD, solo, or to take a team of 10-20 people to the
North or South Pole, EVEN TODAY --- with all the modern gears people
in the early 1900s did NOT have --- chances are we WILL FAIL miserably
and WILL DIE in the attempt, even though some of us claim we are
REASONABLY BRIGHT and well read.

THAT's what I meant, when I said until you have --- in a people and a
society --- the MENTAL shift that's needed for INNOVATIVE
thinking..... until you have that, you don't really have much, even if
NATURAL RESOURCES and IDEAS are all around you: those in CHARGE
aren't bright enough to exploit neither assets for the LOCAL folks.

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