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Science: Finding Carbon-based Compounds on Mars Has High Probability
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Her Lao
Aug 7, 2012, 7:36:48 PM8/7/12
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http://news.yahoo.com/next-mars-400-scientists-alien-road-trip-185745781.html
And some of the CARBON-BASED compounds that are, among other things, required for LIFE are compounds like:
Glycine, Alanine, Valine, Leucine, Methionine, Isoleucine, Phenylalanine, Threonine, Tryptophan, Histidine, etc.
These are among the socalled 20 "Standard Amino Acids" LIFE here on earth depend on, of course.
Glycine is found to be on meteorites and other space objects that have fallen to earth, surviving the burn-up during entry, so it is very likely Glycine will be found on Mars.
Th reason these are among the socalled Carbon-based compounds is that ALL LIFE ON EARTH as we know it, has compounds that are made up with CARBON ATOMS being the SKELETON or backbone of the molecule or compound.
From here, I would go on a limb, and argue that the chances of finding Carbon-based compounds on Mars are pretty good --- in addition to water, one Oxygen and 2 Hydrogen (notice that H20 is NOT a socalled Carbon-based compound, but it is a compound that, as far as we know, WILL PROBABLY have to have, in order for LIFE as we know it, to exist, since WATER, H20, is the BEST CHEMICAL in the known world, serving as both acid and base.... being so ideal as a liquid, it is able to disolve, on average, more substance and compounds than any other liquids....
Here's the reason, a "big picture" reasoning:
When our SOLAR SYSTEM formed, it formed from the ASHES of earlier exploding stars in our small, local patches of the MILKY WAY.... within a few light years, to a few thousand light years.... scattering their "ashes" (of the heavier elements like Lithium, Beryllium, Boron, Carbon, Nitrogen, Oxygen, Flourine, Neon, Sodium, Magnesium, Aluminum, Iron, Copper, Nickel, Silver, Zinc, Gold, etc.) ...
And while it is true that our Sun, being so big in comparison to all other planets revolving around it, has about 99.8% of the mass of our local solar system, the "left over" traces --- or "ashes" --- that eventually formed Earth, Mars, Venus, and the other planets are still the remnants of OTHER EXPLODING STARS in our neighborhood; such traces, such ashes, don't come from our sun, which is made up of almost entirely Hydrogen atoms, from which the SUN turns (via nuclear fusion) into the slightly heavier Helium, with the by-product being the energy or "heat" given off... to sustain us here on earth...
Note that the VISIBLE universe is essentially made of HYDROGEN atoms, which came into existence from the earliest parts of the socalled Big Bang.
But OTHER elements --- the socalled HEAVIER elements --- are made ONLY when large suns, larger than our own (which, as an average sun won't go supernova), go supernova, dispersing their "ashes" (of elements) to their regions or neighborhoods, in their GALAXY...
And while most free floating Hydrogen atoms could float into space, from most surfaces (except extreme ones like the sun, with too much gravity), MOST of the other heavier elements, both as individual elements and as compounds (being "stuck" with other elements), can not and do not float into space; they, in fact, burrow deeper into the planet's surface... So most of what's found on earth here, should be found on our other sister planets around the sun... although on different planets, and in their moons, the compositions of the various elements are undoubtly are different...
And some of the CARBON-BASED compounds that are, among other things, required for LIFE are compounds like:
Glycine, Alanine, Valine, Leucine, Methionine, Isoleucine, Phenylalanine, Threonine, Tryptophan, Histidine, etc.
These are among the socalled 20 "Standard Amino Acids" LIFE here on earth depend on, of course.
Glycine is found to be on meteorites and other space objects that have fallen to earth, surviving the burn-up during entry, so it is very likely Glycine will be found on Mars.
Th reason these are among the socalled Carbon-based compounds is that ALL LIFE ON EARTH as we know it, has compounds that are made up with CARBON ATOMS being the SKELETON or backbone of the molecule or compound.
From here, I would go on a limb, and argue that the chances of finding Carbon-based compounds on Mars are pretty good --- in addition to water, one Oxygen and 2 Hydrogen (notice that H20 is NOT a socalled Carbon-based compound, but it is a compound that, as far as we know, WILL PROBABLY have to have, in order for LIFE as we know it, to exist, since WATER, H20, is the BEST CHEMICAL in the known world, serving as both acid and base.... being so ideal as a liquid, it is able to disolve, on average, more substance and compounds than any other liquids....
Here's the reason, a "big picture" reasoning:
When our SOLAR SYSTEM formed, it formed from the ASHES of earlier exploding stars in our small, local patches of the MILKY WAY.... within a few light years, to a few thousand light years.... scattering their "ashes" (of the heavier elements like Lithium, Beryllium, Boron, Carbon, Nitrogen, Oxygen, Flourine, Neon, Sodium, Magnesium, Aluminum, Iron, Copper, Nickel, Silver, Zinc, Gold, etc.) ...
And while it is true that our Sun, being so big in comparison to all other planets revolving around it, has about 99.8% of the mass of our local solar system, the "left over" traces --- or "ashes" --- that eventually formed Earth, Mars, Venus, and the other planets are still the remnants of OTHER EXPLODING STARS in our neighborhood; such traces, such ashes, don't come from our sun, which is made up of almost entirely Hydrogen atoms, from which the SUN turns (via nuclear fusion) into the slightly heavier Helium, with the by-product being the energy or "heat" given off... to sustain us here on earth...
Note that the VISIBLE universe is essentially made of HYDROGEN atoms, which came into existence from the earliest parts of the socalled Big Bang.
But OTHER elements --- the socalled HEAVIER elements --- are made ONLY when large suns, larger than our own (which, as an average sun won't go supernova), go supernova, dispersing their "ashes" (of elements) to their regions or neighborhoods, in their GALAXY...
And while most free floating Hydrogen atoms could float into space, from most surfaces (except extreme ones like the sun, with too much gravity), MOST of the other heavier elements, both as individual elements and as compounds (being "stuck" with other elements), can not and do not float into space; they, in fact, burrow deeper into the planet's surface... So most of what's found on earth here, should be found on our other sister planets around the sun... although on different planets, and in their moons, the compositions of the various elements are undoubtly are different...
KC
Aug 9, 2012, 12:07:45 AM8/9/12
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Let's play hide and seek!
KC
Aug 9, 2012, 12:10:09 AM8/9/12
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sao...@yahoo.com
Aug 9, 2012, 2:37:43 AM8/9/12
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Mr. KC please act your age. The problem with this group is Nty. He
strikes every time tkm posts something and ruins it for all users.
strikes every time tkm posts something and ruins it for all users.
nottoo...@yahoo.com
Aug 9, 2012, 2:48:14 AM8/9/12
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You think I will let the morons and mentally sick people like you two who bullshit this SCL forum to live in peace, don't even dream about it...55555!
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Aug 9, 2012, 3:11:25 AM8/9/12
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nottoo...@yahoo.com
Aug 9, 2012, 6:20:19 AM8/9/12
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ບັກເລັຽດາກປາກໝາປັນຍາຄວາຍ ບັກກຳລັງສິແກ່ ມຶງຄິດວ່າໃຊ້ວິຊາປາກໝາແລ້ວ ບໍ່ມີໃຜກ້າຕອບໂຕ້ພວກມຶງຊັ້ນບໍ? Don't even dream about it!
On Thursday, August 9, 2012 3:09:22 PM UTC+7, ທ້າວໄຂ່ມືດ wrote:
> You've got control issues, old dude. 555555
On Thursday, August 9, 2012 3:09:22 PM UTC+7, ທ້າວໄຂ່ມືດ wrote:
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nottoo...@yahoo.com
Aug 9, 2012, 6:58:09 AM8/9/12
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ບັກບ້າປັນຍາຄວາຍ ອັນນັ້ນບໍ່ແມ່ນບັນຫາຂອງກູ ແຕ່ເປັນຂອງບັກໂຣກຈິດປາກເໝັນຫລາຍກ່ວາ...55555.
On Thursday, August 9, 2012 5:28:57 PM UTC+7, ທ້າວໄຂ່ມືດ wrote:
> 555555555 what a loser. You've got control issues, old dude. 555555
On Thursday, August 9, 2012 5:28:57 PM UTC+7, ທ້າວໄຂ່ມືດ wrote:
> 555555555 what a loser. You've got control issues, old dude. 555555
ທ້າວໄຂ່ມືດ
Aug 9, 2012, 7:39:16 AM8/9/12
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555555555 what a loser. You've got control issues, old dude. 555555
On Aug 9, 1:48 pm, nottooyou...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Aug 9, 1:48 pm, nottooyou...@yahoo.com wrote:
nottoo...@yahoo.com
Aug 9, 2012, 8:54:22 AM8/9/12
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ບັກບ້າປັນຍາຄວາຍ ອັນນັ້ນບໍ່ແມ່ນບັນຫາຂອງກູ ແຕ່ເປັນຂອງບັກໂຣກຈິດປາກເໝັນຫລາຍກ່ວາ...55555.
Her Lao
Aug 9, 2012, 10:43:04 AM8/9/12
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Most of the time, I simply ignor most of the mindless nonsense in SCL and SCH; but other times I truly wonder if by "culture" you folks mean just talking about ear rings, who has the bigger gun, whose girl friend, or boyfriend, has a better derrier, and how many iPhones or Samgsung some "correct leadership" technocrat's been able to import, to expand his cell phone resaling communist business...
But it should really behoove y'all to revisit the CLASSIC definition --- an ANTHROPOLOGICAL ONE --- of what a "culture" really means:
A "culture" means THINGS, IDEAS, INVENTIONS, etc. that are worthy of being studied, refined, and passed along to future generations.
In the larger scope of things, scheme of things, it doesn't really matter how many offices our Dear Friend, the Honorable Lao Democratic Republic Ambassador "Thanouxay", holds over his high achieving life... how many houses he has, working in 3 full time jobs.... or what kind of car you or he drive....
In the larger and longer scheme of things.... for LAOS people and people all over the world.... it is WHAT KIND OF IDEAS, things, inventions, and IMAGINATION they and their children engage in...
"This is how WE LOCAL LAO FOLKS do things here and THESE are the things most important to us" ---- and then go on to list how many ways you can pick your nose or how you scare the bad neighbors with your big gun or what kind of property you own, etc --- ain't cutting, when it comes to broad, deep, and long term thinking and thoughts about "society," "culture," political norms, notions of freedom and rights, scientific wondering and wonderment, etc.
Laos children and the future generations --- both here in the WEST and inside Laos --- need MORE THAN such popular and "correct thinking" nonsense, of who's whom, who has what in political offices or properties.... y'all seem to like to engage in so much, all the time...
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On Tuesday, August 7, 2012 6:36:48 PM UTC-5, Her Lao wrote:
But it should really behoove y'all to revisit the CLASSIC definition --- an ANTHROPOLOGICAL ONE --- of what a "culture" really means:
A "culture" means THINGS, IDEAS, INVENTIONS, etc. that are worthy of being studied, refined, and passed along to future generations.
In the larger scope of things, scheme of things, it doesn't really matter how many offices our Dear Friend, the Honorable Lao Democratic Republic Ambassador "Thanouxay", holds over his high achieving life... how many houses he has, working in 3 full time jobs.... or what kind of car you or he drive....
In the larger and longer scheme of things.... for LAOS people and people all over the world.... it is WHAT KIND OF IDEAS, things, inventions, and IMAGINATION they and their children engage in...
"This is how WE LOCAL LAO FOLKS do things here and THESE are the things most important to us" ---- and then go on to list how many ways you can pick your nose or how you scare the bad neighbors with your big gun or what kind of property you own, etc --- ain't cutting, when it comes to broad, deep, and long term thinking and thoughts about "society," "culture," political norms, notions of freedom and rights, scientific wondering and wonderment, etc.
Laos children and the future generations --- both here in the WEST and inside Laos --- need MORE THAN such popular and "correct thinking" nonsense, of who's whom, who has what in political offices or properties.... y'all seem to like to engage in so much, all the time...
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On Tuesday, August 7, 2012 6:36:48 PM UTC-5, Her Lao wrote:
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