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Illegal Lao migrants arrive in Vientiane province
Five families of 21 illegal Lao migrants on Saturday arrived in Phalak
village in Kasy district, Vientiane province, after several years of
detention in Thailand .
The group had spent almost a week in a temporary accommodation centre
in Pakxan district, Borikhamxay province.
At the centre officials checked on the identities and personal
histories of the group after their release from the detention camp in
Thailand .
According to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, the group was among more
than 4,000 Lao detainees held for several years in camps in
Houaynamkhao village, Khaokhor district, Phechabun province, and Nong
Khai province.
The migrants entered Thailand illegally after being tricked into
thinking they would continue on to the United States .
On their return to Laos , those with no homes to go to were sent to
Phalak village. They were welcomed by Kasy district governor Bounsone
Phetlavanh, local officials and authorities.
Mr Bounsone encouraged all the returnees to work and to move forward
with their lives.
He also urged the local authorities and village chief to educate the
returning migrants so they would not be tricked into leaving Laos
again, and to prevent them from becoming victims of human trafficking.
Mr Blia Sua Her, 56, who had been in the detention camp in Nong Khai
province, was one of the most recent returnees. He told local media he
was very happy to be back in his motherland.
He said he had suffered very difficult conditions during his time in
the camp.
“I didn't have enough to eat and our freedom of movement was very
limited. I swear I won't go back to that place any more.”
The repatriation of all illegal migrants to Laos is in line with the
minutes of the 37th meeting of the General Border Sub-Committees of
Laos and Thailand held last year in Vangvieng district, Vientiane
province.
The meeting reached consensus to return all the illegal migrants to
Laos by the end of 2008, but the timescale for the plan ultimately
failed.
The sub-committees met again in September in Luang Prabang province
when they agreed to repatriate all of the detainees by the end of
2009.
A total of 7,761 illegal mig rants have returned to Laos - the last
group before the Thai detention camps were officially closed on
December 28.
By Times Reporters
(Latest Update January 4 , 2009)
That is a good new. Yes, instead of dreaming to go to third country,
why not to go back to his former group and live happily among them.
His brother and all his relatives are all in Phalack.
I am very happy that they are back home and from now on, they will
have to work hard for the bettement of their life.
sok dee
DKJ,
Hmong are not that dumb . Blia Shoua Her is one of the longest LPDR
fighters and what you post here is very stupied. All Hmong should
double think about the LPDR. LPDR demanded Mr. Her's group to return
to LPDR for this reason, a gun pointing out to his head and ask him
how he feel about LPDR. Every one would say good thing about LPDR.
What a good try from the LPDR. The international Community and the
Hmong Community know better than what the LPDR think. Another old
propagenda technic by the LPDR like 1975 with Lyfoung and Lytech, and
1990 with Vue, Mai.
Once again, the international community knows how the LPDR use it's
old treat and let's be carefull with them. They will slowly eliminated
by one. It took the LPDR three years to kill the King and Lyfound with
thousand of what LPDR like to kill.
The best way for the Real Laotian Community and te Hmong Community
plus the international community must come together and arm with guns
and bombs to protect the innoncent. Other than guns and bombs, the
innocents will continue to be killed, raped scared, and slowly
disappeared one by one.
Mr. Her is one good example of how the LPDR use its old propagenda to
calm people down and eliminated them later.
Hmong Freedom II, LPDR's enemy
And, you're suppose to have been an experienced journalist too? What a
joke! What your state run "media" is doing now is NOT what they taught
you in your Mass Communication 101 course in France years ago!
What you are doing is simply following orders from the Lao People's
Revolutionary Party's instructions, which clearly said:
"The mass media at all times are involved in the Party strategy and
tactics...The Lao Journalists' Association also took steps in urging
journalists to serve the country and people, being Party and
Government announcers, disseminating policies..."
For every Blia Sue Her, there are equally as many stories that are
exactly opposite...but we wouldn't know, no one would know, if Laos
continues it's bygone policies of ABSOLUTE AUTHORITARIAN control and
censorship of personal liberties, press, assembly, etc.
Chaleun, Rest if you can. After, all the illegal immigrant and Jungle
Hmongs are in the hands of LPDR you will be out of LPDR
picture...Make sure you have you escape hole.
Great... We made it!!! Blia Shoua Her was welcomed in Vientiane by
his wife after three years of separation. You can see this moving
picture here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/finalrepatriation/4241030078/
It is good that Blia Shoua Her, his son Tong Houa Her, Blia Yang Fang
and their group are finally back among their clan in Phalak. You can
see here the hand-over by Lao hight ranking officials to Col. Se Da
Lor, Member of the administrative committee of Vientiane province who
will help them go back to Phalak. I also see Jo Bee Lee, Phalak
village Head and his Deputy Ly Her who also came down to Vientiane to
attend the welcoming ceremony.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/finalrepatriation/4240263923/
Click here to see some of our phinong Hmong who were rapatriated from
Thailand on 28 December 2009 to be assisted by Lao high ranking
officials to go home of back to phalack, to Saythany, to Mouang Home
and Phabeuak, Borikhamsay.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/finalrepatriation/
DKJ, Congratulations to the whole team for Good Job. This is the best
New Year Gift your team gave to our Lao multi-ethnic people.
Sok dee
On Jan 3, 3:42 pm, DKJ <dkj.l...@gmail.com> wrote:
DKJ,
Happy New Year to you and your loved ones. Hope 2010 bring you all
that you wish for. Keep up the good work.
Hakpang
Yea right. That's why Laos went to China to upgraded its military.
China is a big help to Laos now. Laos wants to learn from China stay
Communism and wealthy and China is will to show the way. Vietnam has
China to worry about. Bucba
Now you have bunch third grade cave-dwelling commie Lao leaders lining
up to lick your Vietcong asses. Use them to clean your asses, leave
its citizens alone, OK!!
On Jan 3, 5:41 pm, charlie vietcong <vietcong.charlie...@gmail.com>
wrote:
How about trying to create a safe place for people to live maybe they
won't try to escape you. How about trying to create jobs. How about
treating people with fairness. How about allowing people to be
free.
Yes, the picture looks good. But in fact he is still on the LPDR black
list. He is not a free man yet. Good luck to him and his family.
HM213.
DKJ,
WHere was Blia Shoua Her's little dog that your LPDR took from the
jungle? Did you kill it, clean, and eat it? If the little doggy still
a live, take a picture of the doggy and post it here.
Lao PDR is a developping country, of course not everything is perfect
but overall, Lao people of all ethnics is much better off now if
compared to the past decades. Economic Migration is a new trend in the
world since every country is embrassing openess, democracy, freedom of
movement of the population etc... You can take the exemple of Mexico,
African, Chinese, the Phinlipinas and nos, Sri Lanka, bengladeshi
etc... etc...
If according to you Laos is not good, how come that there are more and
more American, European, Viet, Chinese, Thai among others, are coming
to settle and do business in Laos? If Lao people is moving more and
more, it means that they enjoy full freedom of movement and democracy.
They are free to choose where to go and settle whereever they think
that it is suitable to them. what is wrong with that??? Do you prefer
that the Government lock them up where they are???
There are almost hundred of thousand Lao people who are working in
Thailand and the main purpose is to find better job opportunity... and
that is normal and in line with the New trend of population Migration.
The majority of them is respectful of the host country and comply to
its Laws and regulations. They are not trying to brake laws and go for
wild settlement like the case of ban Khek Noi, Phetchboun province in
Thailand and they have never burned down camps and run wild when
assisted by thai authorities.
You may wish to read the following article from Intho in Lycee de
Vientiane Forum:
Today's Topic Summary
Group: http://groups.google.com/group/f-l-s/topics
* [LYCEE] Report from Laos (without typos+) [1 Update]
Topic: [LYCEE] Report from Laos (without typos+)
Into Champon <in...@intolaw.com> Jan 02 08:35AM +0700 ^
Dear Patrick,
As I mentioned in my "report", we should judge Laos using the
standards of
the neighboring countries, not those of Western countries. Have you
addressed those concerns *privately* with the ambassador or the high
Lao
officials during their visits to France?
I am fully aware of the issues that you addressed. I also read the
same
articles that you did. None of those articles mentioned the fact that
Laos
just passed the anti-discrimination law and the facts that the
powerful
mayor of Vientiane is a minority and is taking all your concerns into
his
heart? You may say that the Lao anti-discrimination law is just a
window-dressing job. However, I've noticed the change. During a trip
with
a group of Lycee alumni to Ponehong, an overseas alumnus (yes, someone
who
is supposed to know better) asked for a Hmong joke. A high government
official alumnus refused to tell the joke and reminded the group that
it is
now officiallly illegal to make such joke EVEN THOUGH no Hmong alumni
was in
the bus/van. He was very serious about the statement. In most cases,
this
type of jokes is not illegal in the US or most Western countries!!!
It took the US 13 years after the Declaration of Independence to come
up
with the Constitution. The US passed the Civil Rights Law in 1964,
that was
188 years after the Declaration of Independence in 1776. The covenant
of
the deed to my house still prohibits any non-White to own my house. I
could
buy the house only because of the US Supreme Court decision
invalidating
such racial discrimination covenants almost 200 years after the
Declaration
of Independence. Outright discrimination was widespread in the US
until
recently. Give Laos sometimes.
Laos' northern neighbor is the increasing powerful China, much more
powerful
than Turkey. If you haven't already done so, read my prior email about
China's influence over Laos. Lao Hmongs will be more prosporous like
the
Iraqi Turks without the empty rhetoric that will not help anyone
especially
Lao Hmongs.
A very good Hmong friend of mine who speaks English without any
accent, is
highly educated, and could earn a very comfortable living in the US,
returned to live in Vientiane permanently and is very happy in Laos.
Visit Laos ... You will change your minds ...
Into
http://www.flickr.com/photos/hmongrepatriation/4244671808/
and decided to stay in Laos forever
http://www.flickr.com/photos/hmongrepatriation/4243874507/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/hmongrepatriation/4243871569/
dkj
Congratulation, excellent job well done. I am not surprise that he
changed his mind one in Phalak because he is reunited with his all
clan including wife, son, grand children and all his friends after
three long years. I am sure that he is right and made a right decision
not to go anywhere because the Lao Government had provided him and all
his family shelter, land for production, a village for his own clan,
magnificient scenery with beautiful Phalak mountain, irrigation
system, priomary and secondary school and access road.
I am sure that in few year, they will be better off and who know, may
be becoming rich.
Please say hello to all own friends in Phalak and Kasy.
Sok dee
here we go.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Na8KRRuUr8g
I don't know what to say..other than i don't think you know what you
are talking about. I have never heard a government representative say
it's a good thing for his people to go to another country to find
employment. That is admission that the LPDR don't know what they are
doing. The Mexico example is different from what you did to the Hmong
in Thailand. The Mexican gov. never drag their citizens back home
like you did.
There is something fundamentally wrong if the your people are trying
to escape from you and you have to drag them home against the protest
of the free world.
It is nice that they are finally in their own mother land...however,
Ban Phalak is and was a refugee camp and/or concentration camp that
the population of this camp won't be able to get to the outside world
nor the world side could get in. Unless, you are the top official of
the LPDR, and rumor had spread that there were soldiers’ camp on the
surrounding perimeter of the camp as well. In my opinion, I believe
that this article was propaganda to coerce the public about Bliasoua’s
self image. Why don’t they let him lives in the open world rather than
put in a remote reeducation camp of nowhere such that he would never
see the real world once again? Moreover, why not let he lives in
Vientiane.
I fear that there is a gray shadow colors upon these returned Hmong
men.
Born2beHmong
Born,
I think reunite with his family is what he wants. We better not
accusing LPDR without knowing the truth.
Will see if my cousin who has a brother living in Vientiane and
another brother living in Phonsavan be forced to Ban Phalak or else
where. If he is allowed to live with one of his brother, than the LPDR
is doing it's best to help it's people, no question about it.
HL
Not only he is reunited with his brother but he also go back to his
wife:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/finalrepatriation/4241030078/
It is good that Blia Shoua Her, his son Tong Houa Her, Blia Yang Fang
and their group are finally back among their clan in Phalak. You can
see here the hand-over by Lao hight ranking officials to Col. Se Da
Lor, Member of the administrative committee of Vientiane province who
will help them go back to Phalak. I also see Jo Bee Lee, Phalak
village Head and his Deputy Ly Her who also came down to Vientiane to
attend the welcoming ceremony.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/finalrepatriation/4240263923/
Click here to see some of our phinong Hmong who were rapatriated from
Thailand on 28 December 2009 to be assisted by Lao high ranking
officials to go home of back to phalack, to Saythany, to Mouang Home
and Phabeuak, Borikhamsay.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/finalrepatriation/
Sok dee
> HL- Hide quoted text -
Hmong_lao,
if they can live else where than it is fine. however, we had discussed
Ban Phalak for year now--and the $2000.00 that we were once given to
PBL to help buy some of house item os plats, spoons, and forks for the
remote Ban Phalak reeducation camp. Did you see that Dr Pao Oz had
continuing asked to set his foot in this camp, and it had been
rejected many times until today that no common people can enter this
reeducation or prisoner camp--only the official government personnel
would be able to enter the camp. this would tell lots about what is
exactly is going on in Ban Phalak camp...they will be set and die in
there for good...Bro!
Born
Friend Born,
Ban Phalak is designated for people of concerned is not yet clear
until my cousin's displacement. I will not believe anybody but my own
relatives.
How many times Dr. Pao has been rejected to visit Ban Phalak is
unknown. Whether or not he used the right method and asked the right
person is unknown either.
Too bad I did not have the interest to visit Ban Phalak when I went
back to Laos not too long ago. Other wise I could have known whether
or not the area is restricted to visitors.
HL
Yuav tseev kuas muaj freedom hab protection zoo npaum le peb tej teb
chaws saab nub poob mas yeej pev tsi tau le nawb. Tawm sis tsuav yog
puab tsi raug luas coj moog pauj yeem xwb ces zoo kawg lawm.
Lub zog Pha Lak mas yeej tseem yog ib qho chaw iffy heev. Le caag los
xij, dhla puaj tsaam kob huv nua yeej tsi tau ib qho txaj ntsig dlaab
tsi zoo rua peb tej kwvtij hlo le os, cov kwv luag aw.....
nqq
I have strong doubt that it is restricted. But with the right approach
one may be permitted to visit.
nqq
nqq,
vim le caag tsi pum Ya Her rua tuaj nrog peb thaam lawm med... li cas
los Hmong_lao lam haas kuam zoo lub sab xwb. peb cov qhabnab ua twb
tau pab nyaj moog pub rau cov hmoob Ban Phalak nuav lawm, peb hab le
paub zoo txug lub zos Ban Phalak nuav.
ua tsaug yawm,
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If anything LPDR needs to keep Chaofa from killing him.
Lao State,
Just my curiosity, why are some people/Lao official wearing masks? dony
Lao Authorities is strong enough to protect its citizens any any
attempt by any ill-intended element would be dealth with appropriate
measures. Blia Shoua Her and anybody who choose to live in peace, will
be taken care of and should not have any fear of being harmed. I also
can give guaratee to all his relatives and the Her clan, that he and
all the people in Phalak and all the development village including Nam
Pan, Phabeuak, borikhamsay province will be able to live in peace and
security and will be assisted until they can attain self-sufficiency.
I am also strongly convinced that our phinong Hmong would be able to
build their community to become stronger and stronger like those who
have been rapatriated in the 90s such as ban Pha Thao among other
villages.
Sok dee
> > more like full of fear. He is now in the devils' cage.- Hide quoted text -
Hahaha...Thornsp...koj hais yog kawg lawm. Kuv yeej agree nrog koj cov
lus tas rho huv si li. Cov Hmoob Meskas pheej tuag ntawd twb yog Hmoob
lom xwb hos vim hais tias cov tsev pam tuag yog own by Hmoob xwb
ne.......hahahaha.
HM213
Uncle Thorns and others,
Kuv xav hais tias peb cov neeg twb mus txog vaj txog tsev lawm ces peb
txhob hais ntau yam thiab peb txhob muab peb lus tso lawv qhov
ncauj..Cia luag tej nom tswv tebchaws mam take care vim cov neeg rov
mus txog Laos yog LPDR neeg. Yog yam peb paub tseeb pom tsum tsis zoo
peb mam hais los tau. Qhov zoo tshaj plaws peb txhob niaj hnub sib
ceg. Yog peb niaj hnub sib ceg liab muag tswb tsuas ces luag tsuas
khaws luag xwb luag yeej tsis qhuas yus li nawb.. Yog peb cov nyob USA
no peb twb tsis sis hlub tsis sis haum ces peb tsis tas hais tias peb
HLUBBB cov tim ub li os. Ua neeg peb yeej muaj disagreement tab sis
peb yuav tsum muaj kev sis hwm...Dony
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