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RichAsianKid

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Dec 11, 2009, 6:01:25 PM12/11/09
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But still....

(1) Most stories are American, America-related, and yes, America-created

(2) And gee, where's India? (Closest match is South Asian Tsunami....
and thanks.)

--------
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/6772836/China-growth-biggest-news-story-of-the-decade.html

China growth 'biggest news story of the decade'

Forget the war on terror and the election of President Obama - the
biggest news story of the decade has been the rise of China, according
to a major new study.

Published: 7:30AM GMT 10 Dec 2009

Media analysts found four times as many news articles about the
financial dominance of China online than the Iraq War, which was the
second biggest story of the last 10 years.

The research, carried out by the Texas-based Global Language Monitor,
found China's success story also trumped Michael Jackson's death, which
appeared at number five in the Top 10, and the 9/11 terror attacks on
the US which was the third biggest story of the new millennium.
Paul Payack, president of the Global Language Monitor and chief word
analyst, said that the rise of China to new economic heights continued
to challenge the international order.

"It is with little surprise that its ongoing transformation has topped
all other news stories in a decade bespotted by war, economic
catastrophe, and natural disasters," he said,

The Global Language Monitor used an algorithm to track the use of key
words across news sites, blogs and social networking pages over the last
10 years to come up with the league table.

"The words are tracked in relation to frequency, contextual usage and
appearance in global media outlets, factoring in long-term trends,
short-term changes, momentum and velocity," My Payack added.

"This is a remarkably high ranking considering that Michael Jacksons
death occurred in the final year of the decade."

The death of Pope John Paul II, which prompted the largest funeral in
recent history, was ranked at number 14 in between the war against the
Taliban and Osama Bin Laden avoiding capture.

Obama's "Yes we can" campaign and election was the sixth biggest news
story, followed by the global recession, hurricane Katrina and the war
in Afghanistan.

The Global Language Monitor, which also records the one million words in
the English tongue, found "climate change" was the most popular phrase
while "global warming", "9/11", "Obama", "bailout" were among the top
words of the decade.

Top 15 News Stories Of The Decade:

1. Rise of China

2. Iraq War

3. 9/11 Terrorist Attacks

4. War on Terror

5. Death of Michael Jackson

6. Election of Obama to US presidency

7. Global Recession of 2008/9

8. Hurricane Katrina

9. War in Afghanistan

10. Economic Meltdown/Financial Tsunami

11. Beijing Olympics

12. South Asian Tsunami

13. War against the Taliban

14. Death of Pope John Paul II

15. Osama bin-Laden eludes capture


scientific

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Dec 11, 2009, 9:30:17 PM12/11/09
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On Dec 12, 4:01 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> But still....
>
> (1) Most stories are American, America-related, and yes, America-created
>
> (2) And gee, where's India?  (Closest match is South Asian Tsunami....
> and thanks.)
>
> --------http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/6772836/China-gr...

Well, Indians are happy for Indian Cousins...
Ancestors of Chinese came from India: Study :);):)
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Ancestors-of-Chinese-came-from-India-Study/articleshow/5328596.cms

RichAsianKid

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Dec 11, 2009, 10:01:07 PM12/11/09
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And what do gorillas think of Homo Sapiens?

P. Rajah

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Dec 11, 2009, 9:53:43 PM12/11/09
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RichAsianKid wrote:

> But still....
>
> (1) Most stories are American, America-related, and yes, America-created
>
> (2) And gee, where's India? (Closest match is South Asian Tsunami....
> and thanks.)

People who are convinced of the supremacy of their own race are usually
deeply frustrated with the inferiority of their own personal
accomplishments.

RichAsianKid

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Dec 11, 2009, 10:27:34 PM12/11/09
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In that quasi-Rorschach it's revealing Rajah chose (2).

ModerateMallu

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Dec 12, 2009, 12:28:21 AM12/12/09
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On 12/11/2009 7:01 PM, RichAsianKid wrote:
>>
>> Well, Indians are happy for Indian Cousins...
>> Ancestors of Chinese came from India: Study :);):)
>> http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Ancestors-of-Chinese-came-from-India-Study/articleshow/5328596.cms
>>
>
> And what do gorillas think of Homo Sapiens?

Wouldn't have a clue what you think, cuz.

scientific

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Dec 12, 2009, 1:19:40 AM12/12/09
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> >http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Ancestors-of-Chinese-came-fr...

>
> And what do gorillas think of Homo Sapiens?

Don't you see the negative connotation of the news item ??? You must
be a REAL DUMBASS to miss it !!! Topping the downbeat list (except for
the election of Obama)! You are taking it is a complement !! Rambo,
read the list few more times and ponder...

BTW, when we read your posts we understand with sorrow that one of
those higher Homosapien Indian Cousins in China devolved into lower
RichAsianKidGorilla ;-)

scientific

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Dec 12, 2009, 1:19:50 AM12/12/09
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> >http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Ancestors-of-Chinese-came-fr...

>
> And what do gorillas think of Homo Sapiens?

Don't you see the negative connotation of the news item ??? You must

scientific

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Dec 12, 2009, 1:33:36 AM12/12/09
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> >http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Ancestors-of-Chinese-came-fr...

>
> And what do gorillas think of Homo Sapiens?

Don't you see the negative connotation of the news item ??? You must


be a REAL DUMBASS to miss it !!! Topping the downbeat list (except for

the election of Obama)! You are taking it as a complement !! Rambo,
read the list few more times and ponder "from America's point of
view."

BTW, when we read your posts we understand sorrowfully that one of


those higher Homosapien Indian Cousins in China devolved into lower

RichAsianGorillaKid ;-)

scientific

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Dec 12, 2009, 2:01:02 AM12/12/09
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> >http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Ancestors-of-Chinese-came-fr...

>
> And what do gorillas think of Homo Sapiens?

Don't you see the negative connotation of the news item ??? You must


be a REAL DUMBASS to miss it !!! Topping the downbeat list (except for

the election of Obama!). You are taking it as a complement !! Rambo,


read the list few more times and ponder "from America's point of
view."

BTW, when we read your posts we acknowledge sorrowfully that one of

baldeagle

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Dec 12, 2009, 5:08:40 AM12/12/09
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On Dec 12, 10:30 am, scientific <victorfran...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Ancestors of Chinese came from India: :);):)

Wrong. The ancestors of Chinese came from Africa..
they passed through India.

http://www.bradshawfoundation.com/journey/

P. Rajah

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Dec 12, 2009, 3:16:08 PM12/12/09
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RichAsianKid wrote:

http://www.aol.in/news/photogallery/world-10-most-competitive-nations-09

And gee, where's China? ARAK is the classic example of someone who sells
the chickens before they are hatched(a variation on the original).

"China�s industrial production jumped, exports fell the least in 13
months and imports surged in November as rebounding trade with Asian
nations underscored the region�s role in leading the world recovery.

Factory output climbed 19.2 percent from a year earlier, the statistics
bureau said in Beijing yesterday."
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601080&sid=aqDS4UGHG6j4

Meanwhile......

http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/09_51/b4160020918482.htm

RichAsianKid

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Dec 12, 2009, 11:17:42 PM12/12/09
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You still don't quite get the irony do you?

Title reported (from another paper) is: The Chinese EVOLVED FROM
Indians: Study

http://www.dnaindia.com/scitech/report_the-chinese-evolved-from-indians-study_1322647

Now we know Homo Sapiens also "evolved" from our hominid cousins, namely
our ancestors of H. erectus, H. Habilis, etc. See here of the
graphical depiction of our hominid phylogenetic tree:

http://tinyurl.com/y8fhohx

And these species have inferior cognitive capacities compared to modern
humans in part as species migrate to new environments new and
additional adaptations are "added on", a new 'n' improved version if you
will, and the weak are weeded out.

BTW it's consistent with India's generally low intelligence (but still
higher than African's and for the same reason) vis-a-vis East Asians',
much like how H. erectus and H. Habilis have lower intelligence
compared to modern humans (and sorry to repost.....but in case you
didn't see it before)

http://www.vdare.com/rushton/070926_indians.htm

RichAsianKid

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Dec 12, 2009, 11:28:45 PM12/12/09
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First of all, responding to this post 4 times doesn't help.

Second, why then would there be a glaring "exception" in this "downbeat
list" - namely the election of Obama? (China won more gold medals than
the US and so #11 Beijing Olympics can be 'downbeat' for the US; India
nowhere close). And if there can be one exception at rank 6, why can't
there be another exception?

No, I would imagine for ordinary blue-collar white Americans the
*entire* list is downbeat - but *especially* the election of Obama.
Maybe you feel some affinity for him because he's half-black (and
lighter than many Indians btw) who knows except yourself?

As for the Rise of China, yes, if white Americans lose their precious
blue-collar jobs from ruthless competition and outsourcing, can't afford
previously affordable healthcare, seeing their country ceded to blacks
and browns now symbolized by a black prez then yes, that would be pretty
'downbeat' too. I don't disagree with that at all. But they probably
would be equally if not even more angry at India with all those
incompetent call-centers and parasitic H1B visa asylum engineers or what
not.

My original 2 points still stand though: why is India so conspicuously
absent from global headlines over the past decade?

And are you now perhaps suggesting India in spite of its well-documented
poverty and illiteracy is now suddenly some fabled happy utopia so much
so that it's no longer newsworthy?

* * * * *
PS - fyi: attached my reply for ModerateMallu:

You still don't quite get the irony do you?

Title reported (from another newspaper) is: The Chinese EVOLVED FROM
Indians: Study

http://www.dnaindia.com/scitech/report_the-chinese-evolved-from-indians-study_1322647

Now we know Homo Sapiens also "evolved" from our hominid cousins, namely

H. erectus, H. Habilis, etc. See here of our hominid phylogenetic tree:

http://tinyurl.com/y8fhohx

And these species have inferior cognitive capacities compared to modern

humans in part because as species migrate to new environments new and


additional adaptations are "added on", a new 'n' improved version if you

will.

And this is consistent with India's generally low intelligence (but


still higher than African's and for the same reason) vis-a-vis East
Asians', much like how H. erectus and H. Habilis have lower intelligence

compared to modern humans.

It's another example how ancestry corroborates and partially and
elegantly explains observed outcome.

RichAsianKid

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Dec 12, 2009, 11:43:00 PM12/12/09
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P. Rajah wrote:
> RichAsianKid wrote:
>
>> P. Rajah wrote:
>>> RichAsianKid wrote:
>>>
>>>> But still....
>>>>
>>>> (1) Most stories are American, America-related, and yes,
>>>> America-created
>>>>
>>>> (2) And gee, where's India? (Closest match is South Asian
>>>> Tsunami.... and thanks.)
>>>
>>> People who are convinced of the supremacy of their own race are
>>> usually deeply frustrated with the inferiority of their own personal
>>> accomplishments.
>>
>> In that quasi-Rorschach it's revealing Rajah chose (2).
>
> http://www.aol.in/news/photogallery/world-10-most-competitive-nations-09
>
> And gee, where's China? ARAK is the classic example of someone who sells
> the chickens before they are hatched(a variation on the original).

But India is pathetic compared to China: China ranks 29th, compared to
India's 49th as your study reveals:

http://www.weforum.org/pdf/GCR09/GCR20092010fullrankings.pdf

That is, you tacitly admitted (and now openly, I hope) India is so
behind China. Which is my point (2) in the OP afterall.

Thank you sir for agreeing, even if it's in your characteristic
graceless sort of way.


> "China�s industrial production jumped, exports fell the least in 13
> months and imports surged in November as rebounding trade with Asian
> nations underscored the region�s role in leading the world recovery.
>
> Factory output climbed 19.2 percent from a year earlier, the statistics
> bureau said in Beijing yesterday."
> http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601080&sid=aqDS4UGHG6j4
>
> Meanwhile......
>
> http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/09_51/b4160020918482.htm

Did the BSE go up or down today? Or is thinking longer term thinking
bigger picture too difficult?

If you look back at news stories barely a few years ago, there was this
fierce blogosphere debate - amongst economists and serious policy makers
no less - and retrospectively that took place primarily in Western media
but that's side point - of India vs China, which of these giga-countries
will win etc? Needless to say that debate is now no
longer....er....."interesting".

As of early 2009 and at the time RAK was actually pondering to himself:
will China be able to sustain that 8% targeted 2009 growth as the China
and its premier asserted, or will the IMF and all other agencies somehow
prove themselves right? Results are now for all the world to see.

People love to say outcome is some combination of hardware and software.
Traditionally it's thought hardware is infrastructure, and there is no
disagreement of India's general inferiority vis-a-vis China's. And in
terms of software or human capital (from education to IQ/cognitive
ability and literacy etc. and well documented and posted too) there is
no disagreement either: India's so behind China; India sucks.

Of course people have gotten things backwards. The hardware is
actually the people, while the software is actually the infrastructure.
But that's a detail.

Point: India lags behind either-or; minute details really don't
necessarily change long-term outcome.

I'm just glad I ain't the one with hopes dashed.

ModerateMallu

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Dec 13, 2009, 12:35:31 AM12/13/09
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On 12/12/2009 8:17 PM, RichAsianKid wrote:
> ModerateMallu wrote:
>> On 12/11/2009 7:01 PM, RichAsianKid wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Well, Indians are happy for Indian Cousins...
>>>> Ancestors of Chinese came from India: Study :);):)
>>>> http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Ancestors-of-Chinese-came-from-India-Study/articleshow/5328596.cms
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> And what do gorillas think of Homo Sapiens?
>>
>> Wouldn't have a clue what you think, cuz.
>
> You still don't quite get the irony do you?
>

Cuz, I did get the irony, and know the evolution model quite well. The
real question is where exactly _you_ fit in the evolutionary scale.
Based on all the brag, and desperate attempts to get a little rub off
from Rushton's claptrap (and constant put downs of everyone else), I'd
say you're quite unsure about the "sapiens" bit when it comes to you.
Hence my query asking you what you thought of me, regardless of Chinese
evolution (more like descent) from Asian Indians.

I don't particularly give a rat's behind on what one's IQ is or isn't (I
have a _measured_ IQ of 152 - does not mean squat). In the end it comes
down to what useful things you have done for the rest of humanity. The
ability to pound a keyboard to expound claptrap of racist baboons does
not count as something useful. Dig?

P. Rajah

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Dec 13, 2009, 12:39:22 AM12/13/09
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RichAsianKid wrote:

> P. Rajah wrote:
>> RichAsianKid wrote:
>>
>>> P. Rajah wrote:
>>>> RichAsianKid wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> But still....
>>>>>
>>>>> (1) Most stories are American, America-related, and yes,
>>>>> America-created
>>>>>
>>>>> (2) And gee, where's India? (Closest match is South Asian
>>>>> Tsunami.... and thanks.)
>>>>
>>>> People who are convinced of the supremacy of their own race are
>>>> usually deeply frustrated with the inferiority of their own personal
>>>> accomplishments.
>>>
>>> In that quasi-Rorschach it's revealing Rajah chose (2).
>>
>> http://www.aol.in/news/photogallery/world-10-most-competitive-nations-09
>>
>> And gee, where's China? ARAK is the classic example of someone who
>> sells the chickens before they are hatched(a variation on the original).
>
> But India is pathetic compared to China: China ranks 29th, compared to
> India's 49th as your study reveals:
>
> http://www.weforum.org/pdf/GCR09/GCR20092010fullrankings.pdf
>
> That is, you tacitly admitted (and now openly, I hope) India is so
> behind China. Which is my point (2) in the OP afterall.
>
> Thank you sir for agreeing, even if it's in your characteristic
> graceless sort of way.

I never said that India was ahead of China in the past couple of
decades. But in your characteristically elusive way, you evaded the
point that, unlike your portrayal of China, the fact is that China still
does not figure in the top 10 competitive economies. Where India stands
is not relevant to the point that China is not #1 or #2 as you would
have everyone believe.

By the way, in another thread you asked "why is India so conspicuously
absent from global headlines over the past decade?". Need I remind you
that you began posting to sci by plaintively bleating about "why does
everyone compare India with China?"? Obviously, the fact that India was
_not_ "conspicuously absent from global headlines" really burned your
ass, and you are now being dishonest by claiming that it was.

Do a simple Google search on India and China, and you will likely revert
to your bleating on the unfairness of comparing India with China.

>> "China�s industrial production jumped, exports fell the least in 13
>> months and imports surged in November as rebounding trade with Asian
>> nations underscored the region�s role in leading the world recovery.
>>
>> Factory output climbed 19.2 percent from a year earlier, the
>> statistics bureau said in Beijing yesterday."
>> http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601080&sid=aqDS4UGHG6j4
>>
>> Meanwhile......
>>
>> http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/09_51/b4160020918482.htm
>
> Did the BSE go up or down today? Or is thinking longer term thinking
> bigger picture too difficult?

BSE was up 0.1% for the week, and SSE was down 2.1%. Your point is?


> If you look back at news stories barely a few years ago, there was this
> fierce blogosphere debate - amongst economists and serious policy makers
> no less - and retrospectively that took place primarily in Western media
> but that's side point - of India vs China, which of these giga-countries
> will win etc? Needless to say that debate is now no
> longer....er....."interesting".
>
> As of early 2009 and at the time RAK was actually pondering to himself:
> will China be able to sustain that 8% targeted 2009 growth as the China
> and its premier asserted, or will the IMF and all other agencies somehow
> prove themselves right? Results are now for all the world to see.
>
> People love to say outcome is some combination of hardware and software.
> Traditionally it's thought hardware is infrastructure, and there is no
> disagreement of India's general inferiority vis-a-vis China's. And in
> terms of software or human capital (from education to IQ/cognitive
> ability and literacy etc. and well documented and posted too) there is
> no disagreement either: India's so behind China; India sucks.
>
> Of course people have gotten things backwards. The hardware is
> actually the people, while the software is actually the infrastructure.
> But that's a detail.
>
> Point: India lags behind either-or; minute details really don't
> necessarily change long-term outcome.
>
> I'm just glad I ain't the one with hopes dashed.

I guess India with its 7+% growth rate this year, despite poor
agricultural results, made it look like the US sucks, eh? I don't think
you could find a single reputable economist who would agree with you
that a 7% growth rate for 2009 "sucks". You are so stupidly and
transparently chauvinistic, not to mention rather the intellectual pygmy.

scientific

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Dec 13, 2009, 12:54:24 AM12/13/09
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You mean your particular African ancestor flew Air China with stopover
in India. Maybe, it was a
non-stop flight to China that flew over India :-) Did he or she keep a
diary or something ?

scientific

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Dec 13, 2009, 1:01:54 AM12/13/09
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> http://www.dnaindia.com/scitech/report_the-chinese-evolved-from-india...

>
> Now we know Homo Sapiens also "evolved" from our hominid cousins, namely
>   H. erectus, H. Habilis, etc. See here of our hominid phylogenetic tree:
>
>    http://tinyurl.com/y8fhohx
>
> And these species have inferior cognitive capacities compared to modern
> humans in part because as species migrate to new environments new and
> additional adaptations are "added on", a new 'n' improved version if you
> will.
>
> And this is consistent with India's generally low intelligence (but
> still higher than African's and for the same reason) vis-a-vis East
> Asians', much like how H. erectus and H. Habilis have lower intelligence
> compared to modern humans.
>
> It's another example how ancestry corroborates and partially and
> elegantly explains observed outcome.

Unlike PR_China's rise, India's rise has been quite slow but steady
integration into the global system.
Also unlike PR_China, India is well satisfied with the present setup
of US-dominated international system.
India is not in a hurry as PR_China and in due course will definitely
make reasonable claims for meaningful
role in the global governance. That is why USA,Russia and Western
Countries do not see democratic India's
rise as destabilizing for the present global system.

******************

I choose to ignore your racist rants about Obama and the emotional
outburst against Indian
workforce ( insert here "sleeping" (>.<) or "bored" :-o emoticon).

***************
quote
BTW, when we read your posts we acknowledge sorrowfully that one of


those higher Homosapien Indian Cousins in China devolved into lower

RichAsianGorillaKid ;-)
unquote
Indians don't have problem with the rise of Chinese Indian cousins ;-)
If you read my above earlier post many times and ponder you would
realize our concern is about one particular "RichAsianGorillaKid."

************
PS-fyi:attached my reply for Baldeagle:

baldeagle

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Dec 13, 2009, 2:55:34 AM12/13/09
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90,000 year ago, some of the Chinese ancestors from African
came to China in space craft. Their space craft passed through
India. Others travelled through the black hole, and materialized in
Beijing ! Apart form the overpowering odour, it was a pleasurable
trip.
Try it ...you will enjoy the trip.

RichAsianKid

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Dec 13, 2009, 4:55:04 PM12/13/09
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ModerateMallu wrote:
> On 12/12/2009 8:17 PM, RichAsianKid wrote:
>> ModerateMallu wrote:
>>> On 12/11/2009 7:01 PM, RichAsianKid wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, Indians are happy for Indian Cousins...
>>>>> Ancestors of Chinese came from India: Study :);):)
>>>>> http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Ancestors-of-Chinese-came-from-India-Study/articleshow/5328596.cms
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And what do gorillas think of Homo Sapiens?
>>>
>>> Wouldn't have a clue what you think, cuz.
>>
>> You still don't quite get the irony do you?
>>
>
> Cuz, I did get the irony, and know the evolution model quite well. The
> real question is where exactly _you_ fit in the evolutionary scale.
> Based on all the brag, and desperate attempts to get a little rub off
> from Rushton's claptrap (and constant put downs of everyone else), I'd
> say you're quite unsure about the "sapiens" bit when it comes to you.
> Hence my query asking you what you thought of me, regardless of Chinese
> evolution (more like descent) from Asian Indians.
>
> I don't particularly give a rat's behind on what one's IQ is or isn't (I
> have a _measured_ IQ of 152 - does not mean squat). In the end it comes
> down to what useful things you have done for the rest of humanity. The
> ability to pound a keyboard to expound claptrap of racist baboons does
> not count as something useful. Dig?

Wrong answer. The question is what you have done for (1) yourself and
(2) kin, not for some anonymous amorphous mass of humanity. Look at your
own Indian kin as inspiration if you don't believe me - upper Indian
castes even in America viscerally detest those lower castes way more
than RichAsianKid can imagine.

No, if you understand evolution you'll recognize universalism is
ultimately evolutionarily unstable, and that promiscuous altruism is a
dead-end.

RichAsianKid

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Dec 13, 2009, 4:57:20 PM12/13/09
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It's not circumstances that make the man; it's the man that makes the
circumstance. True.

>
> ******************
>
> I choose to ignore your racist rants about Obama and the emotional
> outburst against Indian
> workforce ( insert here "sleeping" (>.<) or "bored" :-o emoticon).
>

You may not like truth but at least you gotta admit a lot of third world
workforce are shit. And btw unlike Obama I have the option of not siring
negro children. He may have the most powerful job on earth but history
traverses more than just one generation.

> ***************
> quote
> BTW, when we read your posts we acknowledge sorrowfully that one of
> those higher Homosapien Indian Cousins in China devolved into lower
> RichAsianGorillaKid ;-)
> unquote
> Indians don't have problem with the rise of Chinese Indian cousins ;-)
> If you read my above earlier post many times and ponder you would
> realize our concern is about one particular "RichAsianGorillaKid."

And I bet Chinese have no problems Indians staying where they are either.

>
> ************
> PS-fyi:attached my reply for Baldeagle:
>
> You mean your particular African ancestor flew Air China with stopover
> in India. Maybe, it was a
> non-stop flight to China that flew over India :-) Did he or she keep a
> diary or something ?

African -> India -> China/East Asia. A continuum, no?

RichAsianKid

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Dec 13, 2009, 5:02:07 PM12/13/09
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I do agree - for once - that China beating India is fair. Still, if
China doesn't feature prominently in your mind why then did you ask
"where's China" after you posted your link explicitly tagged on India at
the end?

Like it or not, no matter how you mince words, China still beats India.

>
>>> "China�s industrial production jumped, exports fell the least in 13
>>> months and imports surged in November as rebounding trade with Asian
>>> nations underscored the region�s role in leading the world recovery.
>>>
>>> Factory output climbed 19.2 percent from a year earlier, the
>>> statistics bureau said in Beijing yesterday."
>>> http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601080&sid=aqDS4UGHG6j4
>>>
>>> Meanwhile......
>>>
>>> http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/09_51/b4160020918482.htm
>>
>> Did the BSE go up or down today? Or is thinking longer term thinking
>> bigger picture too difficult?
>
> BSE was up 0.1% for the week, and SSE was down 2.1%. Your point is?
>

Can't see the forest? Rajah confirms.

Difference is China has simultaneously both a much higher GDP AND growth
vis-a-vis India. And that's what makes the difference in relativity and
gap-closing all the more intractable. India has been further and further
and further behind, relative to China.

Gotta love life. :)


uNmaiviLambi

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Dec 13, 2009, 5:40:43 PM12/13/09
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On Dec 13, 5:02 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> P. Rajah wrote:
> > RichAsianKid wrote:

There is no doubt China has better growth figures. India is growing
too. So is Brazil too.

The pattern of growth in China is different from India's. We have to
learn a lot. We are free. China is not. We pay for our freedom. If
China is free, it will have serious problems. We cant even be sure of
real figures about China though
I think ultimately freedom is essential for economic growth as well.
Freedom of the press, intellectual freedom are important
Corruption is a major problem in India
Poverty eradication has to be a priority. Government should get off
the backs of those who create wealth
Politics itself is a problem in India

scientific

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Dec 13, 2009, 10:06:25 PM12/13/09
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What do you mean traveled "through" black hole ? I suppose you meant
wormhole ! Anyway, you admit your particular ancestor is an
Extraterrestrial Alien life-form who flew spacecraft ( UFO ! ) 90,000
years ago ! I always knew you ( and your Chairman Mao ) are not from
this planet ;-)

rst0wxyz

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Dec 13, 2009, 10:19:52 PM12/13/09
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On Dec 13, 2:40 pm, uNmaiviLambi <tripurant...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Dec 13, 5:02 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > P. Rajah wrote:
> > > RichAsianKid wrote:
>
> There is no doubt China has better growth figures. India is growing
> too. So is Brazil too.
>
> The pattern of growth in China is different from India's. We have to
> learn a lot. We are free. China is not.

This is the biggest non-sense there ever was. Freedom is relative.
There are certain things you don't do in all countries. Examples, you
can't yell "fire" in a crowded theater, or you don't carry an AK-47
walking in the streets,...


>We pay for our freedom.

All countries paid for their freedom.

> If
> China is free,

To a certain extent, China IS free.

> it will have serious problems. We cant even be sure of

All countries would have serious problems if freedom is out of
control.

> real figures about China though
> I think ultimately freedom is essential for economic growth as well.

As long as you don't deprive others their freedom, you can do as you
please. China is the same way.


> Freedom of  the press, intellectual freedom are important
>  Corruption is a major problem in India
> Poverty eradication has to be a priority. Government should get off
> the backs of those who create wealth
> Politics itself is a problem in India

Politics is a problem everywhere.


scientific

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Dec 13, 2009, 10:41:52 PM12/13/09
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> > ***************
> > quote
> > BTW, when we read your posts we acknowledge sorrowfully that one of
> > those higher Homosapien Indian Cousins in China devolved into lower
> > RichAsianGorillaKid ;-)
> > unquote
> > Indians don't have problem with the rise of Chinese Indian cousins ;-)
> > If you read my above earlier post many times and ponder you would
> > realize our concern is about one particular "RichAsianGorillaKid."
>
> And I bet Chinese have no problems Indians staying where they are either.
>

If only Indians stayed where they were what would have happened to
China ? I shudder to speculate ;-)


> > ************

>
> African -> India -> China/East Asia. A continuum, no?

-->RichAsianKid-->Abyss of Pacific
Ocean ;-)
African -> India -> China
-->ChineseIndianCousins-->non-
commie democratic peaceful globalCitizens :-)

harmony

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Dec 14, 2009, 7:47:54 PM12/14/09
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china's humongous growth is a big deal but it is not a surprise.
china now is also leading in many important cutting edge technologies, green
energy is one of them.

but here is the larger deal, much larger that rak misses every time:
any country that's not afflicted with 3m will prosper.
china's growth only proves my point - which does not really need any proof.
(note: china has quietly moved from communism to capitalism)


"RichAsianKid" <RichAs...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:hfuj07$mao$1...@news.eternal-september.org...


> But still....
>
> (1) Most stories are American, America-related, and yes, America-created
>
> (2) And gee, where's India? (Closest match is South Asian Tsunami.... and
> thanks.)
>

> --------
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/6772836/China-growth-biggest-news-story-of-the-decade.html

and/or www.mantra.com/jai

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Dec 14, 2009, 9:12:54 PM12/14/09
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I'll throw this in the thread:

The Chinese evolved from Indians: Study

By Vineeta Pandey
DNA
Friday, December 11, 2009

New Delhi: A genetic study has found that Indians are the ancestors
of the Chinese and other East Asian populations.

The study, a joint project of 10 Asian countries, found that India
received a wave of migration from Africa 60,000-70,000 years ago and
these early humans subsequently moved to East and Southeast Asia. The
earlier belief was that humans from Africa reached India and East and
Southeast Asia separately.

The study has important implications, especially in the understanding
of human migratory patterns and in the investigation of genetics and
disease.

The findings of the five-year study -- conducted by a group of 90
scientists, including those from India, in a consortium of 40 Asian
laboratories under the Human Genome Organisation -- have been
published in the journal Science.

The study analysed genetic data of 1,900 individuals representing 73
population groups. The findings showed that Asian genetic ancestry
correlated highly with ethnic and linguistic groups and "considerable
gene flow was observed among sub-populations of the clusters" that
were studied; the clusters included "groups believed to practice
endogamy (marriage within a group) based on linguistics, cultural and
ethic information".

"This large study establishes that Indians are ancestors of the
Japanese, Chinese and all other East Asians. All these populations
have a common genetic origin and it shows that India represents a
microcosm of Asia's genetic diversity," said Samir Brahmachari,
director-general, Council for Scientific and Industrial Research -- a
participant in the study.

More at:
http://www.dnaindia.com/scitech/report_the-chinese-evolved-from-indians-study_1322647

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

In article <4b26dcbd$0$5363$bbae...@news.suddenlink.net>,
"harmony" <a...@hotmail.com> posted:

RichAsianKid

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Dec 14, 2009, 9:30:01 PM12/14/09
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ModerateMallu wrote:
> On 12/12/2009 8:17 PM, RichAsianKid wrote:
>> ModerateMallu wrote:
>>> On 12/11/2009 7:01 PM, RichAsianKid wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, Indians are happy for Indian Cousins...
>>>>> Ancestors of Chinese came from India: Study :);):)
>>>>> http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Ancestors-of-Chinese-came-from-India-Study/articleshow/5328596.cms
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And what do gorillas think of Homo Sapiens?
>>>
>>> Wouldn't have a clue what you think, cuz.
>>
>> You still don't quite get the irony do you?
>>
>
> Cuz, I did get the irony, and know the evolution model quite well. The
> real question is where exactly _you_ fit in the evolutionary scale.
> Based on all the brag, and desperate attempts to get a little rub off
> from Rushton's claptrap (and constant put downs of everyone else), I'd
> say you're quite unsure about the "sapiens" bit when it comes to you.
> Hence my query asking you what you thought of me, regardless of Chinese
> evolution (more like descent) from Asian Indians.
>
> I don't particularly give a rat's behind on what one's IQ is or isn't (I
> have a _measured_ IQ of 152 - does not mean squat). In the end it comes
> down to what useful things you have done for the rest of humanity. The
> ability to pound a keyboard to expound claptrap of racist baboons does
> not count as something useful. Dig?
>

One more item here. You said you had a "measured" IQ of 152 and it
didn't mean squat. OK, then tell us and explain to us please - in
details - your life's colossal failures.

RichAsianKid

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Dec 14, 2009, 9:35:22 PM12/14/09
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scientific wrote:
>>> ***************
>>> quote
>>> BTW, when we read your posts we acknowledge sorrowfully that one of
>>> those higher Homosapien Indian Cousins in China devolved into lower
>>> RichAsianGorillaKid ;-)
>>> unquote
>>> Indians don't have problem with the rise of Chinese Indian cousins ;-)
>>> If you read my above earlier post many times and ponder you would
>>> realize our concern is about one particular "RichAsianGorillaKid."
>> And I bet Chinese have no problems Indians staying where they are either.
>>
>
> If only Indians stayed where they were what would have happened to
> China ? I shudder to speculate ;-)

And without primitive H. erectus or H. habilis around, where will modern
Homo Sapiens be?

http://tinyurl.com/y8fhohx


Thank you.


>
>
>>> ************
>
>> African -> India -> China/East Asia. A continuum, no?
>
> -->RichAsianKid-->Abyss of Pacific
> Ocean ;-)
> African -> India -> China
> -->ChineseIndianCousins-->non-
> commie democratic peaceful globalCitizens :-)

You missed miscegnation in that last link. Or is that missed
deliberately on purpose?

RichAsianKid

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Dec 14, 2009, 9:41:14 PM12/14/09
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First then if it's about learning, why not learn from China? Just a
question.

Second if you so romantically pine for political reform prior to
economic reform, look at the former USSR and what happened to it. Or
think the US - why would you even for a moment think the US will become
a more perfect union with all those blacks and Hispanics anyway?

Third, how can politics itself be a problem if India has that magical
ingredient of......"democracy"? Everyone's voices ought to be heard, no?
(and low IQ ones notwithstanding).

Maybe Indians are more stupid than I thought.

RichAsianKid

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Dec 14, 2009, 9:52:40 PM12/14/09
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Even an Indian doctor agrees:

http://tinyurl.com/y8fhohx

scientific

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Dec 15, 2009, 3:24:57 AM12/15/09
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On Dec 15, 7:35 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> scientific wrote:
> >>> ***************
> >>> quote
> >>> BTW, when we read your posts we acknowledge sorrowfully that one of
> >>> those higher Homosapien Indian Cousins in China devolved into lower
> >>> RichAsianGorillaKid ;-)
> >>> unquote
> >>> Indians don't have problem with the rise of Chinese Indian cousins ;-)
> >>> If you read my above earlier post many times and ponder you would
> >>> realize our concern is about one particular "RichAsianGorillaKid."
> >> And I bet Chinese have no problems Indians staying where they are either.
>
> > If only Indians stayed where they were what would have happened to
> > China ?  I shudder to speculate ;-)
>
> And without primitive H. erectus or H. habilis around, where will modern
> Homo Sapiens be?
>
>      http://tinyurl.com/y8fhohx
>
> Thank you

I have no clue what so ever ;-)


> >>> ************
>
> >> African -> India -> China/East Asia. A continuum, no?
>
> >                                     -->RichAsianKid-->Abyss of Pacific
> > Ocean ;-)
> > African -> India -> China
> >                                     -->ChineseIndianCousins-->non-
> > commie democratic peaceful globalCitizens :-)
>
> You missed miscegnation in that last link. Or is that missed
> deliberately on purpose?


Of course. I already indicated my disinterest about racist comments.
Quote


I choose to ignore your racist rants about Obama and the emotional >
outburst against Indian
workforce ( insert here "sleeping" (>.<) or "bored" :-o emoticon).

Unquote

Anyway,thank you for teaching me a new word "Miscegenation" ( you made
a typo "miscegnation")
:-)

Miscegenation (Latin miscere "to mix" + genus "kind") is the mixing of
different racial groups, that is, marrying, cohabiting, having sexual
relations and having children with a partner from outside one's
racially or ethnically defined group.

ltlee1

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Dec 15, 2009, 6:33:15 AM12/15/09
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On Dec 13, 10:41 pm, scientific <victorfran...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > ***************
> > > quote
> > > BTW, when we read your posts we acknowledge sorrowfully that one of
> > > those higher Homosapien Indian Cousins in China devolved into lower
> > > RichAsianGorillaKid ;-)
> > > unquote
> > > Indians don't have problem with the rise of Chinese Indian cousins ;-)
> > > If you read my above earlier post many times and ponder you would
> > > realize our concern is about one particular "RichAsianGorillaKid."
>
> > And I bet Chinese have no problems Indians staying where they are either.
>
> If only Indians stayed where they were what would have happened to
> China ?  I shudder to speculate ;-)

Changing the subject.
If the Brits were stayed where they were, what would happen to India?
And without India opium drugging the hundred of million of Chinese,
China
would be better? How about Inida? Would it be better?

RichAsianKid

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Dec 15, 2009, 6:14:50 PM12/15/09
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scientific wrote:
> On Dec 15, 7:35 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> scientific wrote:
>>>>> ***************
>>>>> quote
>>>>> BTW, when we read your posts we acknowledge sorrowfully that one of
>>>>> those higher Homosapien Indian Cousins in China devolved into lower
>>>>> RichAsianGorillaKid ;-)
>>>>> unquote
>>>>> Indians don't have problem with the rise of Chinese Indian cousins ;-)
>>>>> If you read my above earlier post many times and ponder you would
>>>>> realize our concern is about one particular "RichAsianGorillaKid."
>>>> And I bet Chinese have no problems Indians staying where they are either.
>>> If only Indians stayed where they were what would have happened to
>>> China ? I shudder to speculate ;-)
>> And without primitive H. erectus or H. habilis around, where will modern
>> Homo Sapiens be?
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/y8fhohx
>>
>> Thank you
>
> I have no clue what so ever ;-)
>

And the point I was making is East Asians should now look towards these
South Asian "ancestors" much the same way as Homo Sapiens view their
Homo erectus or Homo Habilis ancestors. Maybe even with a sense of
nostalgic fondness who knows, much like going to a zoo and gaping in
wonder at those dizzying displays of wild animal skills and instincts,
deeply satisfied how far he or we did come.


>
>>>>> ************
>>>> African -> India -> China/East Asia. A continuum, no?
>>> -->RichAsianKid-->Abyss of Pacific
>>> Ocean ;-)
>>> African -> India -> China
>>> -->ChineseIndianCousins-->non-
>>> commie democratic peaceful globalCitizens :-)
>> You missed miscegnation in that last link. Or is that missed
>> deliberately on purpose?
>
>
> Of course. I already indicated my disinterest about racist comments.
> Quote
> I choose to ignore your racist rants about Obama and the emotional >
> outburst against Indian
> workforce ( insert here "sleeping" (>.<) or "bored" :-o emoticon).
> Unquote
>
> Anyway,thank you for teaching me a new word "Miscegenation" ( you made
> a typo "miscegnation")
> :-)
>
> Miscegenation (Latin miscere "to mix" + genus "kind") is the mixing of
> different racial groups, that is, marrying, cohabiting, having sexual
> relations and having children with a partner from outside one's
> racially or ethnically defined group.

Ask yourself this question: are you itching to screw a Bushman or
a Pygmy (I presume you're not of one of them)? The very first split
within Homo Sapiens is African vs non-Africans - and yes they're even
more retarded than Indians. It's one of the more extreme forms of
intraspecies exogamy you can think of - everything else is lukewarm by
comparison. Do you have an African spouse? If yes why and if not why
not? Even if you say it's my loss I still choose not to.


baldeagle

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Dec 16, 2009, 2:46:41 PM12/16/09
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Have you travelled in India ? India is a black hole..one see black
everywhere, including the street cows are black.

I said,...and repeat now... the Chinese ancestors were from
Africa not from India. ha ha ha ha

RichAsianKid

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Dec 17, 2009, 12:28:53 AM12/17/09
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1. There are many Indians way 'blacker' than Africans - even in the US.
(And they stink just as bad.)

2. There seems to be a (general) drive towards increased parental
provisioning in the evolution of complexity:

http://i48.tinypic.com/2zxs8wi.jpg

Yet in India, children are still cheaper than buffaloes.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSDEL15186520070403

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