Re: "Now kill all the boys"
dsharavi
> > Have you listed the names of any innocent people that have been
> > arrested, tried, or convicted of genocide under the 1948 convention?
On May 29, 9:51 am, David <davecher...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> You keep asking the same questions, so will I. You want me to answer
> your question again? Then you answer this question. Quid pro quo.
> According to your own words Anderson: "I *support* the 1948
> convention on genocide. I think it's a good law. I wish it was more
> effectively enforced."
Interesting. Apparently Duwayne is unaware of the differences between
a convention, a treaty, and a law, and is utterly unaware, or chooses
to be, of the difficulties in enforcing even the Geneva Conventions.
Or he pretends to be. One can never tell with a prosylitzer.
Deborah
dsharavi
> wrote:
> Everyone, notice that Anderson has provided no evidence that I am
> lying. That is because he cannot, since I tell the truth.
Well, duh, you were expecting any? "Liar liar pants on fire" is
Duwayne's standard response to anything he doesn't care to discuss.
> Everyone, notice Anderson actually snipped away part of my question.
> Of course he did, because if he had included the rest, it would expose
> his answer as a dodge and a sham.
Most of his answers are dodges and shams.
> > And here’s the answer I gave you: “I wish for *anyone* that has
> > committed genocide (according to the 1948 convention) to be brought up
> > on charges.
>
> I didn't ask about "anyone" Anderson, I asked about someone specific.
> I asked about Obama. Obama is not "anyone". You dodged the question.
>
> > I don't decide what my morals are based on who does or
> > does not get charged.
>
> But so far you have demonstrated that you morals are malleable,
> depending on who we are discussing. You were happy to apply the law to
> Moses, but suddenly you whined that I was changing the subject when
> pointed out that using your methods the law applied to Obama.
Forget Obama. Forget Moses, too If the prosylitzer wishes "for
*anyone* that [SIC] has committed genocide (according to the 1948
convention) to be brought up on charges, how about advocating that the
ICJ indict, say, Tiglath-Pileser III, or Alexander the Great, or
Julius Caeser -- or all three -- on "charges" of "genocide (according
to the 1948 convention)"? He'd have much better luck than indicting
Moses. Or Obama. And it would be rather entertaining, too.
Duwayne R. Anderson: always on guard protecting the people's rights.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lUjhEHlh7s&feature=related
Deborah
dsharavi
> > Measures, would you mind explaining why you think it's
>>"hostile toward Jews" to support the 1948 convention
>>against genocide?
On May 29, 8:52 am, r...@somis.org (•R. L. Measures) wrote:
> ** I know nothing about this convention Duwayne.
That makes two of you.
Deborah
dsharavi
> > > I challenge you to provide a verifiable quotation of mine that can
> > > reasonably be construed as "anti-Semitic."
>
> > > It's easy enough for anyone to see that my position has been race/
> > > ethnic neutral, and is one based on universal and basic human rights
> > > (which Measures objects to) and anti-genocide -- which Measures thinks
> > > is anti-Semitic.
>
> > > Measure, it's simply reprehensible of you to consider pro-human rights
> > > and anti-genocide to be "anti-Semitic." When you attach the reckless
> > > accusation of "anti-Semite" to pro-human rights, and anti-genocide,
> > > you are making a mockery of Jews that have suffered under persecution
> > > and bigotry. You really should be ashamed for using "anti-Semite" as
> > > a propaganda ploy for advancing your radical Zionism.
> On May 30, 8:30 pm, r...@somis.org (•R. L. Measures) wrote:
> > ** chortle
On May 30, 9:41 pm, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> By "chortle" you clearly mean you can't support your accusation of
> "anti-Semitic."
"I'm no Anti-Semite." Adolf Eichmann, December 1961
“Jews are wonderful people, as are Palestinians. They have a
wonderful
history and tradition. I even find many of their religious traditions
refreshing -- and I'm an atheist.”
Duwaynea Anderson, Thu, 7 May 2009 19:55:46 -0700 (PDT)
“Susan also provided this quote of mine:
Do you think the evil and vile things that Israel does is a result of
their religion and thinking they are God's chosen people and therefore
can do no wrong, or a culture of entitlement where they think the land
of Gaza really belongs to Israel?"
Duwaynea Anderson, Mon, 11 May 2009 07:27:46 -0700 (PDT)
“Susan's religion is vile”
Duwaynea Anderson, Tue, 5 May 2009 20:36:01 -0700 (PDT)
“I said Susan's religous beliefs are vile.”
Duwaynea Anderson, Tue, 5 May 2009 20:28:20 -0700 (PDT)
“Susan is lying -- and violating The Law. I didn't say "Judaism is
vile." Your bastardized religion is certainly "vile" but you don't
define Judaism. You are to Judaism what Taliban is to Islam: a
fanatice that destroys the good in the religon to spread your message
of hate.”
Duwaynea Anderson, Thu, 30 Apr 2009 19:07:54 -0700 (PDT)
“Saying that Israel does vile things is not the same as saying that
Judaism is vile; Judaism is a religion, not a country. Your religion
is not Judaism. You are to Judaism as Pat Roberts is to
Christianity. You are to Judaism as the Taliban is to Islam.”
Duwaynea Anderson, Thu, 30 Apr 2009 13:17:41 -0700 (PDT)
“Susan is lying again. I've never called Judaism "vile." I have
called Susan's bastardized religion (which is *not* true Judiasm)
vile.”
Duwaynea Anderson,Thu, 30 Apr 2009 06:54:24 -0700 (PDT)
“I wonder if she got the motivation for her genocidal hatred from
Moses? “
Duwaynea Anderson, Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:03:43 -0800 (PST)
Duwayne R. Anderson: taking a stand on defending human rights:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lUjhEHlh7s&feature=related
Deborah
�R. L. Measures
<cca0a06a-32bd-48eb...@t21g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>,
dsharavi <dsha...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Measures, would you mind explaining why you think it's
> >>"hostile toward Jews" to support the 1948 convention
> >>against genocide?
>
> On May 29, 8:52 am, r...@somis.org (=95R. L. Measures) wrote:
> > ** =A0I know nothing about this convention Duwayne.
>
> That makes two of you.
>
> Deborah
** chortle
--
R.L. Measures. 805-386-3734, www.somis.org
dsharavi
> Mr Duwaynea
> A week +++has gone by and you are still asking the same questions ,
> Never mind that you rephrase the outside deffinitions, they are the
> same !!! ,,,
A week? Duwayne has been asking the same rephrased and repasted
questions for half a year.
>You are still showing everybody that you only Pretend to
> care for Human rights , and that your only GOAL is to push your
> hateful ideas forward, while trying to Glue this hatred to other
> people, and make yourself look Good.
In addition to his limited ability to comprehend what he reads,
Duwyane suffers from a monstrously overpuffed ego.
> I have told you before ALL HUMANS have [in principle] the same rights,
> Thus ALL BABIES should be born with the Same rights , but Alas , some
> are born in richer homes , some are born in poor conditions ,, Some
> have parents who are mature and ready to be nourishing parents. ,
> while some have parents that are less mature. Some are born into
> cultures where babies are more nourished as individuals and some are
> born into cultures where they are more part of a group, and brought up
> to be less individualistic.
>
> Thus while Idealy they should have the same Rights , But in fact they
> don`t have them from the moment they are born ,,,
You're confusing Duwayne with facts beyond his ability to comprehend.
>Now if you were a
> real Human rights Follower , you would have gone to help in societies
> and cultures where babies have less Cultural /economical rights from
> the hour if birth...
> . Are you doing something about That ???? no ?
Here's the level of Duwayne's actions on behalf of human rights:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lUjhEHlh7s
>why not ? For some
> weeks now you keep asking us if we believe all humans have the same
> rights ? ,,,,,, But you never ask us if the children of Homeless
> people in your country have the same rights as the Rich ones , you
> never ask if children in Africa , have the same rights as those in
> Sweden etc,,,,, NO !!!! because you are only Focused on One / Sorry
> Two groups which you mention Time and again , ??????
> mirjam
Duwayne's not really interested in the children of the homeless on
America, or even in Columbia County. He just likes pestering Jews.
Deborah
Duwaynea Anderson
Deborah, I still haven't seen an answer from you with regard to
genocide. I do hope you aren't trying to dodge the question. Here it
is again:
Do you universally and unequivocally condemn genocide?
Waiting ...
Duwaynea Anderson
> > > Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > I challenge you to provide a verifiable quotation of mine that can
> > > > reasonably be construed as "anti-Semitic."
>
> > > > It's easy enough for anyone to see that my position has been race/
> > > > ethnic neutral, and is one based on universal and basic human rights
> > > > (which Measures objects to) and anti-genocide -- which Measures thinks
> > > > is anti-Semitic.
>
> > > > Measure, it's simply reprehensible of you to consider pro-human rights
> > > > and anti-genocide to be "anti-Semitic." When you attach the reckless
> > > > accusation of "anti-Semite" to pro-human rights, and anti-genocide,
> > > > you are making a mockery of Jews that have suffered under persecution
> > > > and bigotry. You really should be ashamed for using "anti-Semite" as
> > > > a propaganda ploy for advancing your radical Zionism.
> > On May 30, 8:30 pm, r...@somis.org (•R. L. Measures) wrote:
> > > ** chortle
>
> On May 30, 9:41 pm, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > By "chortle" you clearly mean you can't support your accusation of
> > "anti-Semitic."
>
> "I'm no Anti-Semite." Adolf Eichmann, December 1961
Adolf Eichmann, like Deborah, also refused to condemn genocide.
>
> “Jews are wonderful people, as are Palestinians. They have a
> wonderful
> history and tradition. I even find many of their religious traditions
> refreshing -- and I'm an atheist.”
> Duwaynea Anderson, Thu, 7 May 2009 19:55:46 -0700 (PDT)
Deborah, would you explain why you think is "anti-Semitic” to describe
Jews as “wonderful people with a wonderful history and tradition?”
> “Susan also provided this quote of mine:
> Do you think the evil and vile things that Israel does is a result of
> their religion and thinking they are God's chosen people and therefore
> can do no wrong, or a culture of entitlement where they think the land
> of Gaza really belongs to Israel?"
> Duwaynea Anderson, Mon, 11 May 2009 07:27:46 -0700 (PDT)
Deborah, would you find the word "Jew" in that sentence?
You wouldn't be a fanatical Zionist that equates Israel with Judaism,
would you?
> “Susan's religion is vile”
> Duwaynea Anderson, Tue, 5 May 2009 20:36:01 -0700 (PDT)
You think that Susan is Judaism? My! You really are a fanatic.
>
> “I said Susan's religous beliefs are vile.”
> Duwaynea Anderson, Tue, 5 May 2009 20:28:20 -0700 (PDT)
Susan is not Jewish.
>
> “Susan is lying -- and violating The Law. I didn't say "Judaism is
> vile." Your bastardized religion is certainly "vile" but you don't
> define Judaism. You are to Judaism what Taliban is to Islam: a
> fanatice that destroys the good in the religon to spread your message
> of hate.”
> Duwaynea Anderson, Thu, 30 Apr 2009 19:07:54 -0700 (PDT)
Do you even bother to read these quotations, Deborah? Here I am, on
record, saying *good* things about Judaism -- and you think that is
"anti-Semitic?"
You are not Jewish. You don't follow Judaism. Your bastardized
religion is vile. But that's got nothing to do with Judaism. Like
any fanatic, you are simply trying to hijack a great religion for your
personal fanatical aspirations.
> “Saying that Israel does vile things is not the same as saying that
> Judaism is vile; Judaism is a religion, not a country. Your religion
> is not Judaism. You are to Judaism as Pat Roberts is to
> Christianity. You are to Judaism as the Taliban is to Islam.”
> Duwaynea Anderson, Thu, 30 Apr 2009 13:17:41 -0700 (PDT)
As if to prove the point, Deborah does it again. Provides a quotation
showing her personal fanatacism, and nothing that is "anti-Semitic."
>
> “Susan is lying again. I've never called Judaism "vile." I have
> called Susan's bastardized religion (which is *not* true Judiasm)
> vile.”
> Duwaynea Anderson,Thu, 30 Apr 2009 06:54:24 -0700 (PDT)
The fact your religion (which is not Judaism) is vile, Deborah, is
clearly illustrated by the way you refuse to condemn genocide.
> “I wonder if she got the motivation for her genocidal hatred from
> Moses? “
Young-earth creationists got their motivation from Moses, too. Do you
think it’s “anti-Semitic” to study geology?
> Duwaynea Anderson, Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:03:43 -0800 (PST)
>
> Duwayne R. Anderson: taking a stand on defending human rights:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lUjhEHlh7s&feature=related
>
> Deborah- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
mir...@actcom.co.il
This is antisemitic , >
> > "I'm no Anti-Semite." Adolf Eichmann, December 1961
>
> Adolf Eichmann, like Deborah, also refused to condemn genocide.
mirjam
Gary Renzetti
Well Mirjam, Even Eichmann didn't as far as I know post "recipes"
suggesting eating children, unlike the disgusting Shoveari creature.
Here, let me show you:
This Is How Violent Zionists Are: Zionist, Cannibalistic "Recipe":
http://aliyaallzionists.wordpress.com/zionist-cannibalistic-recipe-2/
Deborah Sharavi Oct 11 2004, 11:32 pm
On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 14:17:58 +0200,
"Heinrich"<Heinr...@mailgate.org>wrote:
> As usual, you left out the part about the IDF
> eating their palestinian prey after they kill them.
> It's the reason the dead palestinian numbers
> are so low and the missing count is so high.
Nonsense. Pallies haul them away to their top restaurants.
Cider-Braised Palestinian Kid
8 small sage leaves
1 Palestinian Kid (can substitute pork, rattlesnake, or vulture)
2 Tbsp. chicken fat
1 medium onion, chopped coarsely
1 carrot, chopped coarsely
1 small turnip, chopped coarsely
2 cups apple cider or apple juice
1 bouquet garni made by tying together
3 sprigs of parsley, 2 sprigs of thyme and 1/2 bay leaf
1/4 cup parsley, chopped
Divide the sage leaves into equal portions
and dress the kid.
In a large flameproof casserole,
melt the fat over a high flame.
Brown the kid in the melted fat,
and then remove and reduce the flame.
Add the onion, carrot and turnip,
cover and let simmer for an hour.
Place the kid on vegetables and pour on the cider.
Bring to a boil, add the bouquet garni,
cover and transfer to a medium oven for 2 hours.
Remove the kid from the casserole
and set aside to keep warm.
Strain the liquids in the casserole,
pressing down on the vegetables
to squeeze out the liquids.
Place the kid on a warmed serving platter,
pour over some of the juices
and sprinkle with the parsley.
Serve the remaining juices separately.
Serves lots of Pallies.
Deborah
Duwaynea Anderson
Deborah is no Jew.
As for anti-Semitism, there are many ways to demonstrate hatred toward
Judaism. Here are a few:
1) Equating support for basic human rights with anti-Semitism.
2) Equating opposition to genocide with anti-Semitism
3) Equating criticism of Israel with criticism of Judaism
4) Trying to hijack the label "anti-Semite" for a radical political
agenda
I've seen a lot of anti-Semitism in this thread.
>
> mirjam
American Eagle
This is a great byline.
>
>
>
>
>> mirjam
>
mir...@actcom.co.il
> As for anti-Semitism, there are many ways to demonstrate hatred toward
> Judaism. Here are a few:
day .
mirjam
Hermann
One could never hate you, Mirjam. Most of us feel sorry for you.
Your allusions about life is a self made punishment.
>
>
mir...@actcom.co.il
I wanted some Humour reading with my `Coffee break` , and you just
provided it.
hahahahhah . mirjam
�R. L. Measures
<c5239383-2722-4c5c...@t21g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>,
mir...@actcom.co.il wrote:
> Mr Duwaynea,,, you write
> > As for anti-Semitism, there are many ways to demonstrate hatred toward
> > Judaism. =A0Here are a few:
> And in the Last Month + you have demonstrated How you do it , every
> day .
> mirjam
** Some days he demonstrated it several times.
Duwaynea Anderson
You're wrong if you think it's anti-Semitic to equate support for
basic human rights with anti-Semitism. You're also wrong if you think
it's anti-Semitic to equate opposition to genocide with anti-Semitism.
dsharavi
Typical antisemite's comeback.
Deborah
dsharavi
>>>>Measures, would you mind explaining why you think it's
>>>>"hostile toward Jews" to support the 1948 convention
>>>>against genocide?
>>(•R. L. Measures) wrote:
>>>** I know nothing about this convention Duwayne.
>>That makes two of you.
>>Deborah
On Jun 1, 12:03 pm, Duwaynea Anderson wrote:
>Deborah, I still haven't seen
...the light? That's obvious.
>Waiting ...
...to get a clue -- that, too, is obvious, and it appears the wait
will be a long one.
Deborah
dsharavi
>>>>wrote:
>>>>>The question wasn't whether or not I feel that
>>>>...this version (with three questions):
>>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSe38dzJYkY
>>>>is more accurate than this version (without three questions)
>>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ffoOZLqNmk
>>>>>It's a simple question. You either know
>>>>that this version:
>>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSe38dzJYkY
>>>>is more accurate, or this version
>>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ffoOZLqNmk
>>>>is more accurate,
>>>>>So, time to stop stalling and answer
>>>>>the question."
>>>>>The answer is pretty clear.
>>>>Here’s the link:
>>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSe38dzJYkY
>>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ffoOZLqNmk
>>>>This shtick's closer to Duwayne's shtick than he likes to think:
>>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGp0hCxSg98
>>On May 30, 6:59 pm, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com>
>>wrote:
>>>Deborah, did you ever answer my question when I asked you if you
>>>universally and unequivocally condemn genocide as evil?
>>That would depend on whether or not you actually phrased a question
>>using that exact terminology for my response,
>Here's the question again: Do you universally and unequivocally
>condemn genocide?
How can you say your question is a repeated question, when you never
directed it to my attention until now?
>Is there some "terminology" in that question that you don't
>understand?
What I don't understand is how you can claim to be repeating this
question to me "again", when you never directed it to me in the first
place. Unless, of course, you're lying-- again. Speaking of
repetition, did you ever get around to answering the question whether
this version is an accurate representation of your question-and-answer
game:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ffoOZLqNmk
or this version is the more accurate representation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSe38dzJYkY
For my part, I believe this accurately represents your claim to
"defend human rights":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lUjhEHlh7s&feature=related
What do you think, Duwayne?
Deborah
>>which, like most of your
>>questions, seems analogous to this:
>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSe38dzJYkY
>>and at times analogously closer to this:
>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ffoOZLqNmk
>>which seems to express your feelings on the subject of your varying
>>and variously phrased questions. Don't you think so? Which of the
>>above do you think describes your questions more accurately, Duwayne?
>>A moral and ethical person would have no trouble answering one or the
>>other. Which is it, Duwayne?
dsharavi
>>>I challenge you to provide a verifiable quotation of mine that can
>>>reasonably be construed as "anti-Semitic."
>>>It's easy enough for anyone to see that my position has been race/
>>>ethnic neutral, and is one based on universal and basic human rights
>>>(which Measures objects to) and anti-genocide -- which Measures thinks
>>>is anti-Semitic.
>>>Measure, it's simply reprehensible of you to consider pro-human rights
>>>and anti-genocide to be "anti-Semitic." When you attach the reckless
>>>accusation of "anti-Semite" to pro-human rights, and anti-genocide,
>>>you are making a mockery of Jews that have suffered under persecution
>>>and bigotry. You really should be ashamed for using "anti-Semite" as
>>>a propaganda ploy for advancing your radical Zionism.
>>Adolf Eichmann was another who claimed he wasn't an antisemite.
>Adolf Eichmann (apparenlty like you) was unwilling to universally and
>unequivocally condemn genocide.
What do you think of these two examples?
Example #1:
"On November 19, 1835, a British ship carrying 500 Māori armed with
guns, clubs and axes arrived, followed by another ship on December 5,
1835 with a further 400 Māori. They proceeded to massacre the Moriori
and enslave the survivors. A Moriori survivor recalled: "[The Māori]
commenced to kill us like sheep.... [We] were terrified, fled to the
bush, concealed ourselves in holes underground, and in any place to
escape our enemies. It was of no avail; we were discovered and killed
- men, women and children indiscriminately". A Māori conqueror
justified their actions as follows: "We took possession... in
accordance with our customs and we caught all the people. Not one
escaped....."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chatham_Islands
Example #2:
"Tainos from South America had settled in Jamaica at around 1,000 BC
and called the land Xamayca, meaning "a land of wood and water". After
Christopher Columbus' arrival in 1494, Spain claimed the island and
began occupation in 1509, naming the island Santiago (St. James). The
Arawaks were exterminated by the Spanish."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Jamaica
Those are only two examples of many. The common to these two examples
is peaceful islands, with no history of warfare, left unprepared to
deal with an invading force with better technology. It's different
than the Middle East where everybody has had fought each other for the
last 6,000 years and there is usually a pretext of previous war(s) to
justify the genocide. Most people have problems dealing
with these examples, even though they are well documented. (E.g. none
of Jamaica's original population survived.)
What do you think of that, Duwayne? Let's see you, once again, put
that incisive mind of yours yo this knotty question, and, as usual,
arrive at the wrong answer.
>>Duwayne Anderson, on guard defending human rights:
>>
>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lUjhEHlh7s&feature=related
Deborah
�R. L. Measures
<45a6e330-e349-405b...@l32g2000vba.googlegroups.com>,
dsharavi <dsha...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 1, 12:18=A0pm, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > On May 31, 1:44 am, dsharavi <dshara...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > > > Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > I challenge you to provide a verifiable quotation of mine that ca=
> n
> > > > > > reasonably be construed as "anti-Semitic."
> >
> > > > > > It's easy enough for anyone to see that my position has been race=
> /
> > > > > > ethnic neutral, and is one based on universal and basic human rig=
> hts
> > > > > > (which Measures objects to) and anti-genocide -- which Measures t=
> hinks
> > > > > > is anti-Semitic.
> >
> > > > > > Measure, it's simply reprehensible of you to consider pro-human r=
> ights
> > > > > > and anti-genocide to be "anti-Semitic." =A0When you attach the re=
> ckless
> > > > > > accusation of "anti-Semite" to pro-human rights, and anti-genocid=
> e,
> > > > > > you are making a mockery of Jews that have suffered under persecu=
> tion
> > > > > > and bigotry. =A0You really should be ashamed for using "anti-Semi=
> te" as
> > > > > > a propaganda ploy for advancing your radical Zionism.
> > > > On May 30, 8:30 pm, r...@somis.org (=95R. L. Measures) wrote:
> > > > > ** =A0chortle
> >
> > > On May 30, 9:41 pm, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > > By "chortle" you clearly mean you can't support your accusation of
> > > > "anti-Semitic."
> >
> > > "I'm no Anti-Semite." Adolf Eichmann, December 1961
> >
> > Adolf Eichmann, like Deborah, also refused to condemn genocide.
> >
> >
> >
> > > =93Jews are wonderful people, as are Palestinians. =A0They have a
> > > wonderful
> > > history and tradition. =A0I even find many of their religious tradition=
> s
> > > refreshing -- and I'm an atheist.=94
> > > Duwaynea Anderson, Thu, 7 May 2009 19:55:46 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> > Deborah, would you explain why you think is "anti-Semitic=94 to describe
> > Jews as =93wonderful people with a wonderful history and tradition?=94
> >
> > > =A0=93Susan also provided this quote of mine:
> > > Do you think the evil and vile things that Israel does is a result of
> > > their religion and thinking they are God's chosen people and therefore
> > > can do no wrong, or a culture of entitlement where they think the land
> > > of Gaza really belongs to Israel?"
> > > Duwaynea Anderson, Mon, 11 May 2009 07:27:46 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> > Deborah, would you find the word "Jew" in that sentence?
> >
> > You wouldn't be a fanatical Zionist that equates Israel with Judaism,
> > would you?
> >
> > > =93Susan's religion is vile=94
> > > Duwaynea Anderson, Tue, 5 May 2009 20:36:01 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> > You think that Susan is Judaism? =A0My! =A0You really are a fanatic.
> >
> >
> >
> > > =93I said Susan's religous beliefs are vile.=94
> > > Duwaynea Anderson, Tue, 5 May 2009 20:28:20 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> > Susan is not Jewish.
> >
> >
> >
> > > =93Susan is lying -- and violating The Law. I didn't say "Judaism is
> > > vile." Your bastardized religion is certainly "vile" but you don't
> > > define Judaism. You are to Judaism what Taliban is to Islam: a
> > > fanatice that destroys the good in the religon to spread your message
> > > of hate.=94
> > > Duwaynea Anderson, Thu, 30 Apr 2009 19:07:54 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> > Do you even bother to read these quotations, Deborah? =A0Here I am, on
> > record, saying *good* things about Judaism -- and you think that is
> > "anti-Semitic?"
> >
> > You are not Jewish. =A0You don't follow Judaism. =A0Your bastardized
> > religion is vile. =A0But that's got nothing to do with Judaism. =A0Like
> > any fanatic, you are simply trying to hijack a great religion for your
> > personal fanatical aspirations.
> >
> > > =A0=93Saying that Israel does vile things is not the same as saying tha=
> t
> > > =A0Judaism is vile; Judaism is a religion, not a country. Your religion
> > > is not Judaism. You are to Judaism as Pat Roberts is to
> > > Christianity. You are to Judaism as the Taliban is to Islam.=94
> > > Duwaynea Anderson, Thu, 30 Apr 2009 13:17:41 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> > As if to prove the point, Deborah does it again. =A0Provides a quotation
> > showing her personal fanatacism, and nothing that is "anti-Semitic."
> >
> >
> >
> > > =A0=93Susan is lying again. I've never called Judaism "vile." I have
> > > =A0called Susan's bastardized religion (which is *not* true Judiasm)
> > > =A0vile.=94
> > > =A0Duwaynea Anderson,Thu, 30 Apr 2009 06:54:24 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> > The fact your religion (which is not Judaism) is vile, Deborah, is
> > clearly illustrated by the way you refuse to condemn genocide.
> >
> > > =93I wonder if she got the motivation for her genocidal hatred from
> > > Moses? =93
> >
> > Young-earth creationists got their motivation from Moses, too. =A0Do you
> > think it=92s =93anti-Semitic=94 to study geology?
> >
> > > Duwaynea Anderson, Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:03:43 -0800 (PST)
>
> Typical antisemite's comeback.
>
> Deborah
>
** Duwayne was trapped by what he wrote.
Duwaynea Anderson
> >>>Duwaynea Anderson wrote:
> >>>>Measures, would you mind explaining why you think it's
> >>>>"hostile toward Jews" to support the 1948 convention
> >>>>against genocide?
> >>(•R. L. Measures) wrote:
> >>>** I know nothing about this convention Duwayne.
> >>That makes two of you.
> >>Deborah
>
> On Jun 1, 12:03 pm, Duwaynea Anderson wrote:
>
> >Deborah, I still haven't seen
>
> ...the light? That's obvious.
You ignored the question, Deborah.
Let’s ask it again: Do you universally and unequivocally condemn
genocide as a crime against humanity?
Any moral/ethical person would. Why won’t you?
Duwaynea Anderson
> >>Duwaynea Anderson wrote:
> >>>I challenge you to provide a verifiable quotation of mine that can
> >>>reasonably be construed as "anti-Semitic."
> >>>It's easy enough for anyone to see that my position has been race/
> >>>ethnic neutral, and is one based on universal and basic human rights
> >>>(which Measures objects to) and anti-genocide -- which Measures thinks
> >>>is anti-Semitic.
> >>>Measure, it's simply reprehensible of you to consider pro-human rights
> >>>and anti-genocide to be "anti-Semitic." When you attach the reckless
> >>>accusation of "anti-Semite" to pro-human rights, and anti-genocide,
> >>>you are making a mockery of Jews that have suffered under persecution
> >>>and bigotry. You really should be ashamed for using "anti-Semite" as
> >>>a propaganda ploy for advancing your radical Zionism.
> >>Adolf Eichmann was another who claimed he wasn't an antisemite.
> >Adolf Eichmann (apparenlty like you) was unwilling to universally and
> >unequivocally condemn genocide.
>
> What do you think of these two examples?
>
> Example #1:
>
> guns, clubs and axes arrived, followed by another ship on December 5,
> and enslave the survivors. A Moriori survivor recalled: "[The Mâori]
> commenced to kill us like sheep.... [We] were terrified, fled to the
> bush, concealed ourselves in holes underground, and in any place to
> escape our enemies. It was of no avail; we were discovered and killed
> justified their actions as follows: "We took possession... in
> accordance with our customs and we caught all the people. Not one
> escaped....."http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chatham_Islands
>
> Example #2:
>
> "Tainos from South America had settled in Jamaica at around 1,000 BC
> and called the land Xamayca, meaning "a land of wood and water". After
> Christopher Columbus' arrival in 1494, Spain claimed the island and
> began occupation in 1509, naming the island Santiago (St. James). The
> Arawaks were exterminated by the Spanish."http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Jamaica
>
> Those are only two examples of many. The common to these two examples
> is peaceful islands, with no history of warfare, left unprepared to
> deal with an invading force with better technology. It's different
> than the Middle East where everybody has had fought each other for the
> last 6,000 years and there is usually a pretext of previous war(s) to
> justify the genocide. Most people have problems dealing
> with these examples, even though they are well documented. (E.g. none
> of Jamaica's original population survived.)
>
> What do you think of that, Duwayne? Let's see you, once again, put
> that incisive mind of yours yo this knotty question, and, as usual,
> arrive at the wrong answer.
I universally and unconditionally condemn genocide. No exceptions.
Any moral/ethical person would, Deborah.
Why won't you?
>
> >>Duwayne Anderson, on guard defending human rights:
>
> >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lUjhEHlh7s&feature=related
>
Duwaynea Anderson
I've aske it several times. I guess you were to busy with your ad
hominem arguments to notice.
> >Is there some "terminology" in that question that you don't
> >understand?
>
> What I don't understand is how you can claim to be repeating this
> question to me "again",
What I don't understand is why you are kabitzing about it instead of
answering it.
Is the problem that you agree with Michael Ejercito who, with regard
to genocide said:
"... NOT .... when God orders genocide; in fact, it is wrong NOT to
commit genocide when God tells you to do so."
How amazing the evil that religious fanaticism wreaks on the hearts of
men.
> when you never directed it to me in the first
> place. Unless, of course, you're lying-- again. Speaking of
> repetition, did you ever get around to answering the question whether
> this version is an accurate representation of your question-and-answer
> game:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ffoOZLqNmk
> or this version is the more accurate representation:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSe38dzJYkY
>
> For my part, I believe this accurately represents your claim to
> "defend human rights":
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lUjhEHlh7s&feature=related
>
> What do you think, Duwayne?
>
> Deborah
And after all that, Deborah still refuses to condemn genocide.
Amazing.
>
>
>
> >>which, like most of your
> >>questions, seems analogous to this:
> >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSe38dzJYkY
> >>and at times analogously closer to this:
> >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ffoOZLqNmk
> >>which seems to express your feelings on the subject of your varying
> >>and variously phrased questions. Don't you think so? Which of the
> >>above do you think describes your questions more accurately, Duwayne?
> >>A moral and ethical person would have no trouble answering one or the
> >>other. Which is it, Duwayne?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
dsharavi
> > > > > > > I challenge you to provide a verifiable quotation of mine that can
> > > > > > > reasonably be construed as "anti-Semitic."
> > > > > > > ethnic neutral, and is one based on universal and basic human rights
> > > > > > > (which Measures objects to) and anti-genocide -- which Measures thinks
> > > > > > > is anti-Semitic.
> > > > > > > Measure, it's simply reprehensible of you to consider pro-human rights
> > > > > > > and anti-genocide to be "anti-Semitic." When you attach the reckless
> > > > > > > you are making a mockery of Jews that have suffered under persecution
> > > > > > > and bigotry. You really should be ashamed for using "anti-Semite" as
> > > > > > > a propaganda ploy for advancing your radical Zionism.
> > > > >R. L. Measures wrote:
> > > > > > **chortle
> > > > Duwaynea Anderson wrote:
> > > > > By "chortle" you clearly mean you can't support your accusation of
> > > > > "anti-Semitic."
> > > On May 31, 1:44 am, dsharavi wrote:
> > > > "I'm no Anti-Semite." Adolf Eichmann, December 1961
> > On Jun 1, 12:18 pm, Duwaynea Anderson wrote:
> > > Adolf Eichmann, like Deborah, also refused to condemn genocide.
> > > >”Jews are wonderful people, as are Palestinians. They have a
> > > > wonderful
> > > > history and tradition. I even find many of their religious traditions
> > > > refreshing -- and I'm an atheist.”
> > > > Duwaynea Anderson, Thu, 7 May 2009 19:55:46 -0700 (PDT)
> > > Deborah, would you explain why you think is "anti-Semitic” to describe
> > > Jews as "wonderful people with a wonderful history and tradition?”
> > > > "Susan also provided this quote of mine:
> > > > Do you think the evil and vile things that Israel does is a result of
> > > > their religion and thinking they are God's chosen people and therefore
> > > > can do no wrong, or a culture of entitlement where they think the land
> > > > of Gaza really belongs to Israel?"
> > > > Duwaynea Anderson, Mon, 11 May 2009 07:27:46 -0700 (PDT)
> > > Deborah, would you find the word "Jew" in that sentence?
> > > You wouldn't be a fanatical Zionist that equates Israel with Judaism,
> > > would you?
> > > > "Susan's religion is vile"
> > > > Duwaynea Anderson, Tue, 5 May 2009 20:36:01 -0700 (PDT)
> > > You think that Susan is Judaism? My! You really are a fanatic.
> > > > "I said Susan's religous beliefs are vile."
> > > > Duwaynea Anderson, Tue, 5 May 2009 20:28:20 -0700 (PDT)
> > > Susan is not Jewish.
> > > > "Susan is lying -- and violating The Law. I didn't say "Judaism is
> > > > vile." Your bastardized religion is certainly "vile" but you don't
> > > > define Judaism. You are to Judaism what Taliban is to Islam: a
> > > > fanatice that destroys the good in the religon to spread your message
> > > > of hate."
> > > > Duwaynea Anderson, Thu, 30 Apr 2009 19:07:54 -0700 (PDT)
> > > Do you even bother to read these quotations, Deborah? Here I am, on
> > > record, saying *good* things about Judaism -- and you think that is
> > > "anti-Semitic?"
> > > You are not Jewish. You don't follow Judaism. Your bastardized
> > > religion is vile. But that's got nothing to do with Judaism. Like
> > > any fanatic, you are simply trying to hijack a great religion for your
> > > personal fanatical aspirations.
> > > > "Saying that Israel does vile things is not the same as saying that
> > > > Judaism is vile; Judaism is a religion, not a country. Your religion
> > > > is not Judaism. You are to Judaism as Pat Roberts is to
> > > > Christianity. You are to Judaism as the Taliban is to Islam."
> > > > Duwaynea Anderson, Thu, 30 Apr 2009 13:17:41 -0700 (PDT)
> > > As if to prove the point, Deborah does it again. Provides a quotation
> > > showing her personal fanatacism, and nothing that is "anti-Semitic."
> > > > "Susan is lying again. I've never called Judaism "vile." I have
> > > > called Susan's bastardized religion (which is *not* true Judiasm)
> > > > vile."
> > > > Duwaynea Anderson,Thu, 30 Apr 2009 06:54:24 -0700 (PDT)
> > > The fact your religion (which is not Judaism) is vile, Deborah, is
> > > clearly illustrated by the way you refuse to condemn genocide.
> > > > "I wonder if she got the motivation for her genocidal hatred from
> > > > Moses? "
> > > Young-earth creationists got their motivation from Moses, too. Do you
> > > think it's "anti-Semitic" to study geology?
> > > > Duwaynea Anderson, Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:03:43 -0800 (PST)
> dsharavi wrote:
> > Typical antisemite's comeback.
> > Deborah
On Jun 3, 2:48 am, r...@somis.org (•R. L. Measures) wrote:
> ** Duwayne was trapped by what he wrote.
And he parrots it so often. So eager is he to parrot his own
jabberings, he often mistakes the poster to whom he's ostensibly
addressing them. Do you think this might be a lingering aftereffect
from his long years of peddling religion?
Deborah
Duwaynea Anderson
>
> - Show quoted text -
Deborah, why do you refuse to universally and unconditionally condemn
genocide?
Would you commit genocide if god told you?
Duwaynea Anderson
Deborah, why won't you condemn genocide?
I asked if you universally and unconditionally condemn genocide.
No answer.
I've asked if you would commit genocide if god told you to.
No answer.
fla...@verizon.net
On 1-Jun-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <Duwayne...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 31, 12:58�am, dsharavi <dshara...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Measures, would you mind explaining why you think it's
> > >>"hostile toward Jews" to support the 1948 convention
> > >>against genocide?
> >
> > On May 29, 8:52 am, r...@somis.org (�R. L. Measures) wrote:
> >
> > > ** �I know nothing about this convention Duwayne.
> >
> > That makes two of you.
> >
> > Deborah
>
> Deborah, I still haven't seen an answer from you with regard to
> genocide.
And here we go again: DuWayne's bigotry is exposed, and he
pretends he has the right to projwect it onto the Jew who exposed it.
Susan
fla...@verizon.net
On 1-Jun-2009, mir...@actcom.co.il wrote:
Especially in the context f his constant lie - that's DuWayne's Jew-hatred
in a nutshell.
Susan
fla...@verizon.net
On 2-Jun-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <Duwayne...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 1, 8:24�pm, mir...@actcom.co.il wrote:
> > Mr Duwaynea,,, you write> As for anti-Semitism, there are many ways to
> > demonstrate hatred toward
> > > Judaism. �Here are a few:
> >
> > And in the Last Month + you have demonstrated How you do it , every
> > day .
> > mirjam
>
> You're wrong if you think it's anti-Semitic to equate support for
> basic human rights with anti-Semitism.
You're wrong if you think that *anyone* has missed
your projection of your own bigotry as anything else.
Susan
Duwaynea Anderson
> On 1-Jun-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 31, 12:58 am, dsharavi <dshara...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Measures, would you mind explaining why you think it's
> > > >>"hostile toward Jews" to support the 1948 convention
> > > >>against genocide?
>
> > > On May 29, 8:52 am, r...@somis.org (•R. L. Measures) wrote:
>
> > > > ** I know nothing about this convention Duwayne.
>
> > > That makes two of you.
>
> > > Deborah
>
> > Deborah, I still haven't seen an answer from you with regard to
> > genocide.
>
> And here we go again: DuWayne's bigotry is exposed,
It doesn't take a "bigot" to ask these questions:
1) Do you universally and unconditionally condemn genocide as a crime
against humanity?
2) If god commanded you to commit genocide, would you do it?
It does take a bigot to (as you and Deborah have done) ignore them and
refuse to answer them.
> and he
> pretends he has the right to projwect it onto the Jew who exposed it.
>
> Susan- Hide quoted text -
dsharavi
>>>>>>>>>I challenge you to provide a verifiable quotation of mine that can
>>>>>>>>>reasonably be construed as "anti-Semitic."
>>>>>>>>>It's easy enough for anyone to see that my position has been race /
>>>>>>>>>ethnic neutral, and is one based on universal and basic human rights
>>>>>>>>>(which Measures objects to) and anti-genocide -- which Measures thinks
>>>>>>>>>is anti-Semitic.
>>>>>>>>>Measure, it's simply reprehensible of you to consider pro-human rights
>>>>>>>>>and anti-genocide to be "anti-Semitic." When you attach the reckless
>>>>>>>>>accusation of "anti-Semite" to pro-human rights, and anti-genocide,
>>>>>>>>>you are making a mockery of Jews that have suffered under persecution
>>>>>>>>>and bigotry. You really should be ashamed for using "anti-Semite" as
>>>>>>>>>a propaganda ploy for advancing your radical Zionism.
.
>>>>>>>R. L. Measures wrote:
>>>>>>>>**chortle
>>>>>>Duwaynea Anderson wrote:
>>>>>>>By "chortle" you clearly mean you can't support your accusation of
>>>>>>>"anti-Semitic."
>>>>>On May 31, 1:44 am, dsharavi wrote:
>>>>>>"I'm no Anti-Semite." Adolf Eichmann, December 1961
>>>>On Jun 1, 12:18 pm, Duwaynea Anderson wrote:
>>>>>Adolf Eichmann, like Deborah, also refused to condemn genocide.
.
>>>>>>”Jews are wonderful people, as are Palestinians. They have a
>>>>>>wonderful
>>>>>>history and tradition. I even find many of their religious traditions
>>>>>>refreshing -- and I'm an atheist.”
>>>>>>Duwaynea Anderson, Thu, 7 May 2009 19:55:46 -0700 (PDT)
>>>>>Deborah, would you explain why you think is "anti-Semitic” to describe
>>>>>Jews as "wonderful people with a wonderful history and tradition?”
>>>>>>"Susan also provided this quote of mine:
>>>>>>Do you think the evil and vile things that Israel does is a result of
>>>>>>their religion and thinking they are God's chosen people and therefore
>>>>>>can do no wrong, or a culture of entitlement where they think the land
>>>>>>of Gaza really belongs to Israel?"
>>>>>>Duwaynea Anderson, Mon, 11 May 2009 07:27:46 -0700 (PDT)
>>>>>Deborah, would you find the word "Jew" in that sentence?
>>>>>You wouldn't be a fanatical Zionist that equates Israel with Judaism,
>>>>>would you?
>>>>>>"Susan's religion is vile"
>>>>>>Duwaynea Anderson, Tue, 5 May 2009 20:36:01 -0700 (PDT)
>>>>>You think that Susan is Judaism? My! You really are a fanatic.
.
>>>>>>"I said Susan's religous beliefs are vile."
>>>>>>Duwaynea Anderson, Tue, 5 May 2009 20:28:20 -0700 (PDT)
>>>>>Susan is not Jewish.
.
>>>>>>"Susan is lying -- and violating The Law. I didn't say "Judaism is
>>>>>>vile." Your bastardized religion is certainly "vile" but you don't
>>>>>>define Judaism. You are to Judaism what Taliban is to Islam: a
>>>>>>fanatice that destroys the good in the religon to spread your message
>>>>>>of hate."
>>>>>>Duwaynea Anderson, Thu, 30 Apr 2009 19:07:54 -0700 (PDT)
>>>>>Do you even bother to read these quotations, Deborah? Here I am, on
>>>>>record, saying *good* things about Judaism -- and you think that is
>>>>>"anti-Semitic?"
>>>>>You are not Jewish. You don't follow Judaism. Your bastardized
>>>>>religion is vile. But that's got nothing to do with Judaism. Like
>>>>>any fanatic, you are simply trying to hijack a great religion for your
>>>>>personal fanatical aspirations.
.
>>>>>>"Saying that Israel does vile things is not the same as saying that
>>>>>>Judaism is vile; Judaism is a religion, not a country. Your religion
>>>>>>is not Judaism. You are to Judaism as Pat Roberts is to
>>>>>>Christianity. You are to Judaism as the Taliban is to Islam."
>>>>>>Duwaynea Anderson, Thu, 30 Apr 2009 13:17:41 -0700 (PDT)
>>>>>As if to prove the point, Deborah does it again. Provides a quotation
>>>>>showing her personal fanatacism, and nothing that is "anti-Semitic."
>>>>>>"Susan is lying again. I've never called Judaism "vile." I have
>>>>>>called Susan's bastardized religion (which is *not* true Judiasm)
>>>>>>vile."
>>>>>>Duwaynea Anderson,Thu, 30 Apr 2009 06:54:24 -0700 (PDT)
>>>>>The fact your religion (which is not Judaism) is vile, Deborah, is
>>>>>clearly illustrated by the way you refuse to condemn genocide.
.
>>>>>>"I wonder if she got the motivation for her genocidal hatred from
>>>>>>Moses? "
>>>>>Young-earth creationists got their motivation from Moses, too. Do you
>>>>>think it's "anti-Semitic" to study geology?
>>>>>>Duwaynea Anderson, Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:03:43 -0800 (PST)
>>>dsharavi wrote:
>>>>Typical antisemite's comeback.
>>>>Deborah
>
>>On Jun 3, 2:48 am, r...@somis.org (•R. L. Measures) wrote:
>>>** Duwayne was trapped by what he wrote.
> On Jun 3, 9:47 am, dsharavi wrote:
>>And he parrots it so often. So eager is he to parrot his own
>>jabberings, he often mistakes the poster to whom he's ostensibly
>>addressing them. Do you think this might be a lingering aftereffect
>>from his long years of peddling religion?
>>Deborah
On Jun 3, 3:40 pm, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>Deborah, why do you refuse to universally and unconditionally condemn
>genocide?
Duwayne, why do you continuously refuse to answer the question whether
you believe your habit of parroting questions is a lingering
aftereffect from your long years of being a door-to-door religion-
monger?
>Would you commit genocide if god told you?
Why would I? What do you think would happen if I refused? Would I go
to hell?
Deborah
Duwaynea Anderson
That makes no sense.
>
> >Would you commit genocide if god told you?
>
> Why would I?
You ignored the question.
If god commanded you to commit genocide, would you do it?
> What do you think would happen if I refused?
More to the point, what do *you* think would happen if god told you to
commit genocide, and you refused?
> Would I go
> to hell?
Does you god send people there if he tells them to commit genocide,
and they refuse?
dsharavi
> > >>>>Measures, would you mind explaining why you think it's
> > >>>>"hostile toward Jews" to support the 1948 convention
> > >>>>against genocide?
> > >>(•R. L. Measures) wrote:
> > >>>** I know nothing about this convention Duwayne.
.
> > >>That makes two of you.
> > >>Deborah
>
> > On Jun 1, 12:03 pm, Duwaynea Anderson wrote:
> > >Deborah, I still haven't seen
>
> > ...the light? That's obvious.
>
> > >Waiting ...
>
> > ...to get a clue -- that, too, is obvious, and it appears the wait
> > will be a long one.
> > Deborah
>
> > Deborah, why won't
....you get a clue? Search me.
> I asked if you
...believe this represents your stance on human rights:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSe38dzJYkY&feature=fvw
or if this represents your stance on human rights:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ffoOZLqNmk
> No answer.
Well, I haven't yet decided whether this is where you're coming from:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSe38dzJYkY&feature=fvw
or whether you incline more to this position:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ffoOZLqNmk
I tend to think it's probably this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ffoOZLqNmk
What do you think, Duwayne?
> I've asked if you would commit genocide if god told you to.
>No answer.
Stop lying, Duwayne. I answered your idiotic question. Twice already.
Deborah
Duwaynea Anderson
> > > >>>Duwaynea Anderson wrote:
> > > >>>>Measures, would you mind explaining why you think it's
> > > >>>>"hostile toward Jews" to support the 1948 convention
> > > >>>>against genocide?
> .
> > > >>(•R. L. Measures) wrote:
> > > >>>** I know nothing about this convention Duwayne.
> .
> > > >>That makes two of you.
> > > >>Deborah
>
> > > On Jun 1, 12:03 pm, Duwaynea Anderson wrote:
> > > >Deborah, I still haven't seen
>
> > > ...the light? That's obvious.
>
> > > >Waiting ...
>
> > > ...to get a clue -- that, too, is obvious, and it appears the wait
> > > will be a long one.
> > > Deborah
>
> On Jun 3, 3:51 pm, Duwaynea Anderson wrote:
>
> > > Deborah, why won't
>
> ....you get a clue? Search me.
>
> > I asked if you
Ooops. Deborah snipped the question again.
Deborah, if god commanded you to commit genocide, would you do it?
>
> ...believe this represents your stance on human rights:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSe38dzJYkY&feature=fvw
> or if this represents your stance on human rights:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ffoOZLqNmk
>
> > No answer.
>
> Well, I haven't yet decided whether this is where you're coming from:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSe38dzJYkY&feature=fvw
> or whether you incline more to this position:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ffoOZLqNmk
>
> I tend to think it's probably this one:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ffoOZLqNmk
>
> What do you think, Duwayne?
>
> > I've asked if you would commit genocide if god told you to.
> >No answer.
>
> Stop lying, Duwayne. I answered your idiotic question. Twice already.
>
Duwaynea Anderson
Here are the questions I've been asking you, Susan. Please identify
the "projected bigotry" in these questions:
1) Are all people (including Palestinians, Jews, etc.) born with
certain inalienable rights, including the right to live, and the right
to personal freedom/self determination?
2) Do you agree with the inalienable rights described at this link?
http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/
3) Do Jews have the right to live?
4) Do Palestinians have the right to live?
5) Do Jews have the right to self determination?
6) Do Palestinians have the right to self determination?
7) Do you unconditionally condemn genocide?
8) If god commanded you to commit genocide, would you do it?
Why have these questions caused you so much trouble?
dsharavi
>On Jun 5, 7:42 am, mir...@actcom.co.il wrote:
>>But i have a rational story for , which i would like you to consider ,
>>one day i drove out of a gaz station , i had a very small car , A Huge
>>car entered the Exit , and i suddenly realized a worjer of the
>>station , was between me and that Huge car ,
>>in less than a minute i had to choose to pull to the right and some
>>how get a smaller impact from that car ,, or pull to the left ,
>>probably be hit by that car , but also maybe save the worker from
>>geting hit by that car ,,
>>I know what i chose , WHEN IT HAPPENED , Are you sure that if you
>>decided such a thing Now on Dry ,,,,,,not really seeing that bih
>>car ,,,, that you will choose the same choice you claimed to
>>do ,,,,,,,
>>You don`t know such things until they really Are happening , just
>>please stop with this questions that you write just to annoy people .
>>mirjam
On Jun 5, 10:56 am, Duwaynea Anderson
<DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com>wrote:
>If god told me to commit genocide, I'd tell god to go fuck himself.
And if your "god" told you to stop drooling over Caroline's snatch at
her gymnastic meets, you'd tell him to fuck himself, and start
boinking her instead? (Assuming you haven't been fantasizing about it,
that is.)
>>If my Grandmother had wheels ?would she be a car ?
If Duwayne had a fully functional brain, would he be Duwayne?
Deborah
Duwaynea Anderson
Deborah, you keep ignoring this question.
If god commanded you to commit genocide, would you do it?
Why do religious fanatics have such a difficult time with that
question? Is it that you want to say "yes," but you know it'll make
you look like a fanatic?
Since you apparently would commit genocide for your god, would you
explain how you are fundamentally any different from the 911
terrorists, who were also willing to murder innocent people for their
god?
>
> >>If my Grandmother had wheels ?would she be a car ?
>
> If Duwayne had a fully functional brain, would he be Duwayne?
>
TDNY
TDNY
dsharavi
>>>these are irational questions , one can not ask , because there is no
>>>answer ,,
>>>But i have a rational story for , which i would like you to consider ,
>>>one day i drove out of a gaz station , i had a very small car , A Huge
>>>car entered the Exit , and i suddenly realized a worjer of the
>>>station , was between me and that Huge car ,
>>>in less than a minute i had to choose to pull to the right and some
>>>how get a smaller impact from that car ,, or pull to the left ,
>>>probably be hit by that car , but also maybe save the worker from
>>>geting hit by that car ,,
>>>I know what i chose , WHEN IT HAPPENED , Are you sure that if you
>>>decided such a thing Now on Dry ,,,,,,not really seeing that bih
>>>car ,,,, that you will choose the same choice you claimed to
>>>do ,,,,,,,
>>>You don`t know such things until they really Are happening , just
>>>please stop with this questions that you write just to annoy people .
>>>mirjam
>On Jun 5, 8:31 am, dsharavi <dshara...@hotmail.com>wrote:
>>Good story, mirjam, it's a shame that it's too complex for a simple
>>black-and-white mentality like Duwayne's to handle.
>
>>>If my Grandmother had wheels ?would she be a car ?
>
>><g>
>
>>Deborah
On Jun 5, 10:56 am, Duwaynea Anderson
<DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com>wrote:
>I see Deborah is still ignoring the question.
Duwayne is lying. The question has been answered. Twice.
>Question: If god commanded you to commit genocide, would you do it?
You've said that if your god told you to commit genocide, Duwayne,
you'd "tell him to go fuck himself." Here's the question you've been
ignoring:
If your "god" told you to stop drooling over Caroline's snatch at
her gymnastic meets, would tell him to fuck himself, and start
boinking her instead? (Assuming you haven't been, that is.)
Well, Duwayne?
Deborah
NefeshBarYochai
Deb sometimes you crack me up. You're funny. :-)
dsharavi
>>>>But i have a rational story for , which i would like you to consider ,
>>>>one day i drove out of a gaz station , i had a very small car , A Huge
>>>>car entered the Exit , and i suddenly realized a worjer of the
>>>>station , was between me and that Huge car ,
>>>>in less than a minute i had to choose to pull to the right and some
>>>>how get a smaller impact from that car ,, or pull to the left ,
>>>>probably be hit by that car , but also maybe save the worker from
>>>>geting hit by that car ,,
>>>>I know what i chose , WHEN IT HAPPENED , Are you sure that if you
>>>>decided such a thing Now on Dry ,,,,,,not really seeing that bih
>>>>car ,,,, that you will choose the same choice you claimed to
>>>>do ,,,,,,,
>>>>You don`t know such things until they really Are happening , just
>>>>please stop with this questions that you write just to annoy people .
>>>>mirjam
>
>>>If god told me to commit genocide, I'd tell god to go fuck himself.
>
>>her gymnastic meets, you'd tell him to fuck himself, and start
>>boinking her instead? (Assuming you haven't been fantasizing about it,
>>that is.)
>
<DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com>wrote:
>Deborah, you keep ignoring this question.
>If god commanded you to commit genocide, would you do it?
You're lying again, Duwaune. I've already answered the question. At
least twice. Because you're too dense to comprehend it doesn't mean I
never answered. The question you've been ignoring is:
If your "god" told you to stop drooling over Caroline's snatch at
her gymnastic meets, would you tell him to fuck himself, and start
boinking her instead? (Assuming you haven't been fantasizing about it,
that is--or doing it.)
>Why do religious fanatics have such a difficult time with that
>question? Is it that you want to say "yes," but you know it'll make
>you look like a fanatic?
Duwayne's double reference to religious fantatics must raise a smile
or two, when one considers the the decade or so which Duwayne spent
dragging his family from state to state in the interests of peddling
his religion.
So, Duwayne, here's the question you've been ignoring:
If your "god" told you to stop drooling over Caroline's snatch at
her gymnastic meets, would you tell him to fuck himself, and start
boinking her instead? (Assuming you haven't been fantasizing about it,
that is--or doing it.)
Deborah
dsharavi
On Jun 5, 12:56 pm, NefeshBarYochai <tach...@hotmail.com>wrote:
>Deb sometimes you crack me up. You're funny. :-)
Why, thanks, Tek. I'm surprised you haven't gotten in on this thread
yet. Duwayne is a natural subject for one of your poems. You know the
poems I mean. <g>
Deborah
TDNY
"dsharavi" <dsha...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:a33ca263-abb8-4ee0...@x6g2000vbg.googlegroups.com...
Debbie, Duwayne is right, you did not answer the question.
A simple yes or no, would suffice.
If your God commanded you to commit genocide, would you do it?
Is it really that hard, to look inside yourself, and answer the question,
without tricks, or personal attacks.
It seems to me, remembering the Holy Bible, that there were numerous,
God ordered acts of genocide in the bible.
dsharavi
> "dsharavi" <dshara...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
Er, yes, I did, Torres, several times.
> A simple yes or no, would suffice.
No, it doesn't, but Duwayne is too dense to comprehend anything beyond
simple black and white answers.
> If your God commanded you to commit genocide, would you do it?
> Is it really that hard, to look inside yourself, and answer the question,
> without tricks, or personal attacks.
Personal attacks like the ones Duwayne indulges in? Tit for tat,
Torres. To answer YOUR question: I don't believe Gd would give me such
an order, thus the question is moot, as well as stupid.
> It seems to me, remembering the Holy Bible, that there were numerous,
> God ordered acts of genocide in the bible.
There weren't. On the few occasions of massive deaths -- Israelites in
the wilderness, Egypt's firstborn, most of life on Earth -- Gd took
care of those himself.
Deborah
fla...@verizon.net
On 5-Jun-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <Duwayne...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 3, 8:41�pm, flav...@verizon.net wrote:
> > On �1-Jun-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On May 31, 12:58�am, dsharavi <dshara...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > Measures, would you mind explaining why you think it's
> > > > >>"hostile toward Jews" to support the 1948 convention
> > > > >>against genocide?
> >
> > > > On May 29, 8:52 am, r...@somis.org (�R. L. Measures) wrote:
> >
> > > > > ** �I know nothing about this convention Duwayne.
> >
> > > > That makes two of you.
> >
> > > > Deborah
> >
> > > Deborah, I still haven't seen an answer from you with regard to
> > > genocide.
> >
> > And here we go again: DuWayne's bigotry is exposed,
>
> It doesn't take a "bigot" to ask these questions:
It takes a bigot to pretend they are "questions" rather than
a bad projecting of his bigotry onto those who expose it.
You deliberately sidestepped your own bigotry & launched
right into the attack of those pretended "questions" that you
had no right to pretend even needed to be asked - as always.
The only bigotry evinced was yours - as always.
Susan
fla...@verizon.net
On 5-Jun-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <Duwayne...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 3, 8:42�pm, flav...@verizon.net wrote:
> > On �2-Jun-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On Jun 1, 8:24�pm, mir...@actcom.co.il wrote:
> > > > Mr Duwaynea,,, you write> As for anti-Semitism, there are many ways
> > > > to
> > > > demonstrate hatred toward
> > > > > Judaism. �Here are a few:
> >
> > > > And in the Last Month + you have demonstrated How you do it , every
> > > > day .
> > > > mirjam
> >
> > > You're wrong if you think it's anti-Semitic to equate support for
> > > basic human rights with anti-Semitism.
> >
> > You're wrong if you think that *anyone* has missed
> > your projection of your own bigotry as anything else.
> >
> > Susan
>
> Here are the questions I've been asking you, Susan.
Dodge noted - AGAIN.
Asked & answered - even tho' you had no right to ever
ask them in the first place & refused to acknowledge
not just that, but that they have *been* answered.
You are still upset that my answer did not kowtow to
you bigotry, but indicted you as you deserved.
Susan
TDNY
Deborah
I don't know about that Debbie, it seems to me, that individuals in the
Christian Bible,
were ordered by someone they felt was 'God' to commit mass murder=genocide.
But I have to back and read up on that, because it has been a long time
since,
I have read the Bible.
I will look it up.
I remember, from my Sunday School teachers that God had commanded mass
murder,
because he felt that certain people turned their backs on him, didn't
worship him properly or enough,
or something.
I am sure Bellevue hospital, psychiatric ward,
has some patients, that feel God is talking to them
and commanding them as well.
NYC has the sense to lock them up, before they can harm themselves and
others.
I will go pull out the Bible and look up God and genocides, then I'll get
back to you.
fla...@verizon.net
On 5-Jun-2009, "TDNY" <TD...@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:
> Debbie, Duwayne is right, you did not answer the question.
Anonymous coward, DuWaynea is lying.
He didn't "ask questions" so much as project his own
bigotry onto those who exposed it. He got caught out
spewing Jew-hatred, and, rather than answer for it,
starting pretending that it was Jews, & not hismelf,
who needed to be asked "questions" such as those.
He also lies about the questions ever having been
answered. He lies, start to finish.
Susan
fla...@verizon.net
On 5-Jun-2009, dsharavi <dsha...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 5, 1:06�pm, "TDNY" <T...@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:
> > Debbie, Duwayne is right, you did not answer the question.
>
> Er, yes, I did, Torres,
Oh, wow - that makes sense.
> several times.
Of course.
And DuWaynea lies about *that*, too.
Susan
fla...@verizon.net
Susan
Duwaynea Anderson
What was your answer to this question:
If god commanded you to commit genocide, would you do it?
> >Question: If god commanded you to commit genocide, would you do it?
>
> You've said that if your god told you to commit genocide, Duwayne,
> you'd "tell him to go fuck himself."
You said you answered that question, Deborah. Okay, what was your
answer?
BTW, I'm an atheist, and don't have any gods. But if your evil god
(or anyone else's) told me to commit genocide, I would happily tell
your diety to go fuck himself.
How about you?
If you thought your god was telling you to commit genocide, would you
have the courage to tell your evil god no, or would you pick up your
machine gun and start killing people?
You keep dodging that question. By dodging it you make it look as if
you really would kill innocent people if you thought your god wanted
you to.
And in that regard I fail to distinguish any difference between you
and any other common terrorists that thinks it’s okay to kill innocent
people.
> Here's the question you've been
> ignoring:
> If your "god" told you to stop drooling over Caroline's snatch at
> her gymnastic meets, would tell him to fuck himself, and start
> boinking her instead? (Assuming you haven't been, that is.)
Deborah, it's not possible to "stop" doing something that one has
never done.
But you didn't say it's impossible for your god to not command you to
commit genocide. You simply said it was unlikely. But however
unlikely, it's still a possibility (as opposed to your disturbed
sexual example).
So, since you allow that it is *possible* for your evil god to ask his/
her/its followers to commit genocide, the question to you is entirely
appropriate:
If your god commanded you to commit genocide, would you do it?
When you dodge the question, or ignore it, and when you get so
flustered you start talking about "snatches" and "wanking" it becomes
pretty clear that your answer is "yes." You would, in fact, murder
innocent people if your evil god told you to.
That's what makes religious fanatics like you so dangerous. Given the
circumstances they will strap bombs to their bodies and blow people to
smithereens, or they'll start wars based on lies, or even drop nuclear
bombs. All on the mistaken assumption that their evil actions are
somehow forgiven because their evil god told them to do it.
> Well, Duwayne?
So, you gonna take that class on logic?
May I suggest one on ethics, too?
Duwaynea Anderson
> On 5-Jun-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jun 3, 8:41 pm, flav...@verizon.net wrote:
> > > On 1-Jun-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On May 31, 12:58 am, dsharavi <dshara...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > Measures, would you mind explaining why you think it's
> > > > > >>"hostile toward Jews" to support the 1948 convention
> > > > > >>against genocide?
>
> > > > > On May 29, 8:52 am, r...@somis.org (•R. L. Measures) wrote:
>
> > > > > > ** I know nothing about this convention Duwayne.
>
> > > > > That makes two of you.
>
> > > > > Deborah
>
> > > > Deborah, I still haven't seen an answer from you with regard to
> > > > genocide.
>
> > > And here we go again: DuWayne's bigotry is exposed,
>
> > It doesn't take a "bigot" to ask these questions:
>
> It takes a bigot to pretend they are "questions"
They're questions designed to stump bigots. And they've done that
nicely.
1) Are all people (including Palestinians, Jews, etc.) born with
certain inalienable rights, including the right to live, and the
right
to personal freedom/self determination?
2) Do you agree with the inalienable rights described at this link?
http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/
And why have you also ignored these questions?
1) Do you universally and unconditionally condemn genocide as a
crime
against humanity?
2) If god commanded you to commit genocide, would you do it?
> rather than
> a bad projecting of his bigotry onto those who expose it.
>
> You deliberately sidestepped your own bigotry & launched
> right into the attack of those pretended "questions" that you
> had no right to pretend even needed to be asked - as always.
> The only bigotry evinced was yours - as always.
>
Duwaynea Anderson
> On 5-Jun-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jun 3, 8:42 pm, flav...@verizon.net wrote:
> > > On 2-Jun-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Jun 1, 8:24 pm, mir...@actcom.co.il wrote:
> > > > > Mr Duwaynea,,, you write> As for anti-Semitism, there are many ways
> > > > > to
> > > > > demonstrate hatred toward
> > > > > > Judaism. Here are a few:
>
> > > > > And in the Last Month + you have demonstrated How you do it , every
> > > > > day .
> > > > > mirjam
>
> > > > You're wrong if you think it's anti-Semitic to equate support for
> > > > basic human rights with anti-Semitism.
>
> > > You're wrong if you think that *anyone* has missed
> > > your projection of your own bigotry as anything else.
>
> > > Susan
>
> > Here are the questions I've been asking you, Susan.
>
> Dodge noted - AGAIN.
Thanks for confessing. Now, about those questions -- through dodging
them, yet? Here they are once more:
1) Are all people (including Palestinians, Jews, etc.) born with
certain inalienable rights, including the right to live, and the
right
to personal freedom/self determination?
2) Do you agree with the inalienable rights described at this link?
http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/
And why have you also ignored these questions?
1) Do you universally and unconditionally condemn genocide as a
crime
against humanity?
2) If god commanded you to commit genocide, would you do it?
>
> Asked & answered
You keep asserting that -- but you refuse to post the link where you
"answered" them (wink, wink) or repeat the answer.
Of course, that's exactly what we'd expect if you were just lying
about having answered the questions.
>- even tho' you had no right to ever
> ask them in the first place & refused to acknowledge
> not just that, but that they have *been* answered.
> You are still upset that my answer did not kowtow to
> you bigotry, but indicted you as you deserved.
>
Duwaynea Anderson
<snip>
> So, Duwayne, here's the question you've been ignoring:
> If your "god" told you to stop drooling over Caroline's snatch at
> her gymnastic meets, would you tell him to fuck himself, and start
> boinking her instead? (Assuming you haven't been fantasizing about it,
> that is--or doing it.)
Are you still confused about the impossibility of "stopping" something
that's never been done?
But you never said it was "impossible" for your god to ask you to
commit genocide. You never said it's something that he/she/it would
absolutely never do. You just said it was unlikely.
But something that's unlikely is still possible (unlike the bogus
sexual fantasy that you tried to make into a question).
So, since it's "possible" that you god might ask you to commit
genocide, I think you should explain whether or not you would obey
your evil god.
If your god told you to pick up a hatchet and kill all the boys that
had recently been taken prisoners of war in a battle, would you do it?
Of course there's little question regarding the answer to that
question. Of course you would. That's why you're trying so hard to
dodge and ignore the question. On the one hand you don't want to piss
off this evil god you worship by saying you might disobey a direct
commandment, but on the other hand you don't want to look like a
raving religious fanatic -- which you are.
It's a conundrum. Should you piss off god, or should you give
yourself away?
<snip to end>
dsharavi
<DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com>wrote:
>That makes no sense.
It makes perfect sense to anyone who has been pestered by
proselytizers (door-to-door religion-
mongers) over the years. You were one yourself for a decade, moving
your family from state to state so that you could peddle your former
religion --until you got atheism and became a born again atheist that
is. And on nothing more than the basis of a verse you misread, from
scriptures with whose traditions and scholarship you were, and remain,
totally ignorant.
>>>Would you commit genocide if god told you?
>
>>Why would I?
>
>You ignored the question.
Responding to a question with a question is not ignoring the first
question. Even you should be able to figure that out. Speaking of
ignoring questions, why do you keep ignoring the question whether
you'd tell your "god" to fuck himself, if your "god" commanded you to
stop drooling over Caroline's snatch at
her gymnastic meets, and start boinking her instead? (Assuming you
haven't been fantasizing about it.)
.
>If god commanded you to commit genocide, would you do it?
Already answered. The question which you keep ignoring:
If your god commanded you to stop drooling over Caroline's snatch at
her gymnastic meets, would you tell him to fuck himself, and start
boinking her instead? Assuming you haven't been fantasizing about it?
Have you done a bit more than merely fantasize about it?
>>What do you think would happen if I refused?
>
>More to the point, what do *you* think would happen if god told you to
>commit genocide, and you refused?
You're the one who brought up the question, you tell me what would
happen.
>
>>Would I go to hell?
>
>Does you god send people there if he tells them to commit genocide,
>and they refuse?
I rather doubt it. Here's another question you've been ignoring,
Duwayne: Did Jacob, Mischael, Caroline, and Christopher -- and
Laura, too -- suffer acute embarassment when you were arrested for
indecent exposure on the corner of Pittsburgh and Hankey? Yes or no?
Deborah
Duwaynea Anderson
Explain.
<snip>
> >You ignored the question.
>
> Responding to a question with a question is not ignoring the first
> question.
Sure it is. I'll ask it for you again:
If your god commanded you to commit genocide, would you do it?
> Even you should be able to figure that out. Speaking of
> ignoring questions, why do you keep ignoring the question whether
> you'd tell your "god" to fuck himself, if your "god" commanded you to
> stop drooling over Caroline's snatch at
> her gymnastic meets, and start boinking her instead? (Assuming you
> haven't been fantasizing about it.)
Are you still confused about the impossibility of "stopping" something
that's never been done?
But you never said it was "impossible" for your god to ask you to
commit genocide. You never said it's something that he/she/it would
absolutely never do. You just said it was unlikely.
But something that's unlikely is still possible (unlike the bogus
sexual fantasy that you tried to make into a question).
So, since it's "possible" that you god might ask you to commit
genocide, I think you should explain whether or not you would obey
your evil god.
If your god told you to pick up a hatchet and kill all the boys that
had recently been taken prisoners of war in a battle, would you do it?
Of course there's little question regarding the answer to that
question. Of course you would. That's why you're trying so hard to
dodge and ignore the question. On the one hand you don't want to piss
off this evil god you worship by saying you might disobey a direct
commandment, but on the other hand you don't want to look like a
raving religious fanatic -- which you are.
It's a conundrum. Should you piss off god, or should you give
yourself away?
> >If god commanded you to commit genocide, would you do it?
>
> Already answered.
Not with "no."
dsharavi
>>>>>>>>Measures, would you mind explaining why you think it's
>>>>>>>>"hostile toward Jews" to support the 1948 convention
>>>>>>>>against genocide?
.
>>>>>>(•R. L. Measures) wrote:
>>>>>>>** I know nothing about this convention Duwayne.
.
>>>>>>That makes two of you.
>>>>>>Deborah
>
>>>>On Jun 1, 12:03 pm, Duwaynea Anderson wrote:
>>>>>Deborah, I still haven't seen
>
>>...the light? That's obvious.
>
>>>>>Waiting ...
>
>>...to get a clue -- that, too, is obvious, and it appears the wait
>>>>will be a long one.
>>>>Deborah
>
>>On Jun 3, 3:51 pm, Duwaynea Anderson wrote:
>>>>Deborah, why won't
>
....you get a clue? Search me.
>
>>>I asked if you
On Jun 5, 10:49 am, Duwaynea Anderson wrote:
>Ooops.
Ooops, gotta restore another of Duwayne's snips:
>>Duwayne wrote:
>>>I asked if you
>>...believe this represents your stance on human rights:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSe38dzJYkY&feature=fvw
>>or if this represents your stance on human rights:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ffoOZLqNmk
>
>>>No answer.
>
>>Well, I haven't yet decided whether this is where you're coming from:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSe38dzJYkY&feature=fvw
>>or whether you incline more to this position:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ffoOZLqNmk
>
>>I tend to think it's probably this one:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ffoOZLqNmk
>
>>What do you think, Duwayne?
>
>>>I've asked if you would commit genocide if god told you to.
>>>No answer.
>
>>Stop lying, Duwayne. I answered your idiotic question. Twice already.
>>Deborah
>Deborah snipped the question again.
>Deborah, if god commanded you to commit genocide, would you do it?
Stop lying, Duwayne. I answered your idiotic question. Several times
already. Speaking of snipped and ignored questions, here's the
question you keep ignoring and/or snipping, Duwayne:
Did Jacob, Mischael, Caroline, and Christopher -- and Laura, too --
suffer acute embarassment when you were arrested for indecent exposure
on the corner of Pittsburgh and Hankey? Yes or no?
Here's another question you've keep ignoring and/or snipping,
Duwayne:
If your god commanded you to stop drooling over Caroline's snatch at
her gymnastic meets, would you tell him to fuck himself, and start
boinking her instead? Assuming you haven't been fantasizing about it?
Have you done a bit more than merely fantasize about it?
Deborah
Duwaynea Anderson
Deborah thinks this is an "idiotic question:"
Question: If your god commanded you to commit genocide, would you do
it?
> Several times
> already.
Not with "no."
> Speaking of snipped and ignored questions, here's the
> question you keep ignoring and/or snipping, Duwayne:
>
> Did Jacob, Mischael, Caroline, and Christopher -- and Laura, too --
> suffer acute embarassment when you were arrested for indecent exposure
> on the corner of Pittsburgh and Hankey? Yes or no?
Are you still confused about the impossibility of "stopping" something
that's never been done?
But you never said it was "impossible" for your god to ask you to
commit genocide. You never said it's something that he/she/it would
absolutely never do. You just said it was unlikely.
But something that's unlikely is still possible (unlike the bogus
sexual fantasy that you tried to make into a question).
So, since it's "possible" that you god might ask you to commit
genocide, I think you should explain whether or not you would obey
your evil god.
If your god told you to pick up a hatchet and kill all the boys that
had recently been taken prisoners of war in a battle, would you do it?
Of course there's little question regarding the answer to that
question. Of course you would. That's why you're trying so hard to
dodge and ignore the question. On the one hand you don't want to piss
off this evil god you worship by saying you might disobey a direct
commandment, but on the other hand you don't want to look like a
raving religious fanatic -- which you are.
It's a conundrum. Should you piss off god, or should you give
yourself away?
<snip to end>
fla...@verizon.net
On 5-Jun-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <Duwayne...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > > You're wrong if you think it's anti-Semitic to equate support for
> > > > > basic human rights with anti-Semitism.
> >
> > > > You're wrong if you think that *anyone* has missed
> > > > your projection of your own bigotry as anything else.
> >
> > > > Susan
> >
> > > Here are the questions I've been asking you, Susan.
> >
> > Dodge noted - AGAIN.
>
> Thanks for confessing.
That you've dodged the fact that you were falsely projecting
your bigory onto those who exposed it? I've done nothing but
point thart out this enture thread. As alays, your deliberate
obtuseness doesn't change that either.
Susan
fla...@verizon.net
On 5-Jun-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <Duwayne...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > And here we go again: DuWayne's bigotry is exposed,
> >
> > > It doesn't take a "bigot" to ask these questions:
> >
> > It takes a bigot to pretend they are "questions"
>
> They're questions designed to stump bigots.
Except for them not being questions, but rather projections
of your own bigotry onto those who exposed it - as I have
pointed out before. This is proven by your constant &
contrtradictopry lies about the answer you did receive.
Anyone *truly* concerned with human rights would have
*rejoiced* in my answer - but *you* were upset because
what you *wanted* to do was project your bigotry onto me,
not have your own confirmed so irrevocably.
Susan
fla...@verizon.net
On 5-Jun-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <Duwayne...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Did Jacob, Mischael, Caroline, and Christopher �-- and Laura, too --
> > suffer acute embarassment when you were arrested for indecent exposure
> > on the corner of Pittsburgh and Hankey? Yes or no?
>
> Are you still confused about the impossibility of "stopping" something
> that's never been done?
Dodge noted.
No, but you are, when you keep pretending that you
had any reason whatsoever to project your bigotry onto
those who exposed it in the form of those charges
you keep lying about being questions.
Susan
dsharavi
>>>>>>>** Duwayne was trapped by what he wrote.
.
>>>>>On Jun 3, 9:47 am, dsharavi wrote:
>>>>>>And he parrots it so often. So eager is he to parrot his own
>>>>>>jabberings, he often mistakes the poster to whom he's ostensibly
>>>>>>addressing them. Do you think this might be a lingering aftereffect
>>>>>>from his long years of peddling religion?
>>>>>>Deborah
>
>>>>On Jun 3, 3:40 pm, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>>Deborah, why do you refuse to universally and unconditionally condemn
>>>>>genocide?
>
>>>On Jun 5, 10:34 am, dsharavi <dshara...@hotmail.com>wrote:
>>>>Duwayne, why do you continuously refuse to answer the question whether
>>>>you believe your habit of parroting questions is a lingering
>>>>aftereffect from your long years of being a door-to-door religion-
>>>>monger?
>
>>On Jun 5, 10:42 am, Duwaynea Anderson
>><DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>That makes no sense.
>On Jun 5, 3:21 pm, dsharavi <dshara...@hotmail.com>wrote:
>>It makes perfect sense to anyone who has been pestered by
>>proselytizers
>
On Jun 5, 3:26 pm, Duwaynea Anderson wrote:
>Explain.
><snip>
The explanation is inherent in the part of the statement above, which
you snipped. Here is is again, with your snippage restored: It makes
perfect sense to anyone who has been pestered by proselytizers (door-
to-door religion-
mongers) over the years. You were one yourself for a decade, moving
your family from state to state so that you could peddle your former
religion --until you got atheism and became a born again atheist that
is. And on nothing more than the basis of a verse you misread, from
scriptures with whose traditions and scholarship you were, and remain,
totally ignorant.
If you're too dense to comprehend it, learn to read before snipping,
or ask Chris or Caroline for an explanation.
>>>You ignored the question.
>>Responding to a question with a question is not ignoring the first
>>question.
>Sure it is.
I'll give you an example of why you're wrong, again, which lies in the
question you keep ignoring and/or snipping. The question is you keep
avoiding is:
Did Jacob, Mischael, Caroline, and Christopher -- and Laura, too --
suffer acute embarassment when you were arrested for indecent exposure
on the corner of Pittsburgh and Hankey? Yes or no?
>I'll ask it for you again:
I'll ask the same question for you again: Did Jacob, Mischael,
Caroline, and Christopher -- and Laura, too -- suffer acute
embarassment when you were arrested for indecent exposure on the
corner of Pittsburgh and Hankey? Yes or no?
>If your god commanded you to commit genocide, would you do it?
Already answered. Several times. Because you're too dense to
comprehend the answer doesn't mean it wasn't answered. And speaking of
repeated questions, I'll repeated another question to keep snipping
and ignoring. Here's that question, Duwayne:
If your god commanded you to stop drooling over Caroline's snatch at
her gymnastic meets, would you tell him to fuck himself, and start
boinking her instead? (Assuming you haven't been fantasizing about it,
or more, already.)
>>Even you should be able to figure that out. Speaking of
>>ignoring questions, why do you keep ignoring the question whether
>>you'd tell your "god" to fuck himself, if your "god" commanded you to
>>stop drooling over Caroline's snatch at
>>her gymnastic meets, and start boinking her instead? (Assuming you
>>haven't been fantasizing about it.)
>Are you still confused about the impossibility of "stopping" something
>that's never been done?
Yes or no, Duwayne. f your god commanded you to stop drooling over
Caroline's snatch at her gymnastic meets, would you tell him to fuck
himself, and start boinking her instead? (Assuming you haven't been
fantasizing about it, or more, already.)
>But you never said it was "impossible" for your god to ask you to
>commit genocide.
You never said it was impossible for you to stop drooling over
Caroline's snatch at her gymnastic meets, or to stop your fantasizing
about Caroline either.
>You never said it's something that he/she/it would
>absolutely never do. You just said it was unlikely.
You, on the other hand, never said it was unlikely that you've done
more than indulge yourself in fantasies about Caroline. Have you done
more than that, Duwayne?
>But something that's unlikely is still possible
Therefore, it's likely that you've done more than merely fantasize
about Caroline.
>(unlike the bogus
>sexual fantasy that you tried to make into a question).
No sexual fantasy was ever mentioned. Duwayne -- until you just
mentioned it. Therefore, one may rightly assume that that sexual
fantasy you mentioned in connection with Caroline is more than likely
-- and possibly more than a sexual fantasy.
>So, since it's "possible" that you god might ask you to commit
>genocide, I think you should explain whether or not you would obey
>your evil god.
Since it's "possible" that what you have called your sexual fantasy
regarding Caroline may be more than that. I think you'd better
explain your inclinations here. And the evil god is YOURS, Duwayne.
>If your god told you to pick up a hatchet and kill all the boys that
>had recently been taken prisoners of war in a battle, would you do it?
Not at issue. What's at issue is what you've confessed are your sexual
fantasies regarding Caroline, and what you've done to make them more
than your fantasies.
>Of course there's little question regarding the answer to that
>question. Of course you would. That's why you're trying so hard to
>dodge and ignore the question. On the one hand you don't want to piss
>off this evil god you worship by saying you might disobey a direct
>commandment, but on the other hand you don't want to look like a
>raving religious fanatic -- which you are.
Nope. You're the one who dragged your family from state to state while
missionizing for your evil god, Duwayne. Stop trying to scapegoat
others for your own failings.
>It's a conundrum. Should you piss off god, or should you give
>yourself away?
You've done that, quite frequently. You've also failed and refused to
qualify your question, but even so, I answered it. Because you're too
dense, dishonest, and self-delusionary to comprehend it doesn't mean
the question wasn't answered.
>>>If god commanded you to commit genocide, would you do it?
>
>>Already answered.
>
>Not with "no."
You also failed and refused to answer with a "no" -- or a "yes" -- the
question:
Did Jacob, Mischael, Caroline, and Christopher -- and Laura, too --
suffer acute embarassment when you were arrested for indecent exposure
on the corner of Pittsburgh and Hankey? Yes or no? But that's rather
minor, in light of your inadvertent confession of the nature of your
relationship with Caroline, wouldn't you say?
Deborah
dsharavi
wrote:
> On Jun 5, 1:01 pm, dsharavi <dshara...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> > So, Duwayne, here's the question you've been ignoring:
> > If your "god" told you to stop drooling over Caroline's snatch at
> > her gymnastic meets, would you tell him to fuck himself, and start
> > boinking her instead? (Assuming you haven't been fantasizing about it,
> > that is--or doing it.)
>
> Are you still confused about the impossibility of "stopping" something
> that's never been done?
>
> But you never said it was "impossible" for your god to ask you to
> commit genocide. You never said it's something that he/she/it would
> absolutely never do. You just said it was unlikely.
>
> But something that's unlikely is still possible (unlike the bogus
> sexual fantasy that you tried to make into a question).
Um, no one mentioned any sexual fantasy - until you just did,
Duwayne.
> It's a conundrum. Should you piss off god, or should you give
> yourself away?
Well, for you, it certainly is, but the conundrum is should you give
yourself away and piss off Laura, Christopher, Jacob, and Michael, or
should you just keep going as you are, with what is beginning to
appear less your fantasy, and more the actual nature of your
relationship with Caroline. A conundrum indeed, but nothing an ex-
religionmonger like yourself couldn't handle.
Deborah
> <snip to end>
mir...@actcom.co.il
> answered. He lies, start to finish.
>
> Susan
Susan , You are correct , Mr Duwaynea does not ask questions , he asks
Rhetorical Questions , which aren`t meant to be answered , because
they are built so that they can be used as a spring board to Bashing
the person who `supposedly` didn`t answer them.
Proffessor Hofstadter , had some marvelous articles about these kinds
of questions ,,,
mirjam
Boed...@isp.com
> On 5-Jun-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > > > > > You're wrong if you think it's anti-Semitic to equate support for
> > > > > > basic human rights with anti-Semitism.
>
> > > > > You're wrong if you think that *anyone* has missed
> > > > > your projection of your own bigotry as anything else.
>
> > > > > Susan
>
> > > > Here are the questions I've been asking you, Susan.
>
> > > Dodge noted - AGAIN.
>
> > Thanks for confessing.
>
> That you've dodged the fact that you were falsely projecting
"Projecting". That 1 million and one.
> your bigory
"Bigory"?
onto those who exposed it? I've done nothing but
> point thart out this enture thread. As alays, your deliberate
> obtuseness doesn't change that either.
Sigh. "enture"? "alays"? "thart"?
How is it you can spell "Projecting" and "Flaws" correctly but have
problems with the simplest of words?
>
> Susan
Jewdas
The many survivors of the victims of Jewish assassinations and other
murders have some good questions for you and your Bullshit Professor.
Try these survivors,
Hermann
fla...@verizon.net
On 6-Jun-2009, mir...@actcom.co.il wrote:
> > He also lies about the questions ever having been
> > answered. He lies, start to finish.
> >
> > Susan
>
> Susan , You are correct , Mr Duwaynea does not ask questions , he asks
> Rhetorical Questions , which aren`t meant to be answered , because
> they are built so that they can be used as a spring board to
And he "asks" them solely to cover his own bigotry that
has been exposed. He started on me at the very beginning
of the thread, right after he called Judaism "vile".
> Bashing
> the person who `supposedly` didn`t answer them.
>
Also because the answer given showed him up for the lying
hatemonger he is, rather than knuckled under to his projecting
said bigotry onto his exposer.
> Proffessor Hofstadter , had some marvelous articles about these kinds
> of questions ,,,
I always wish I could get paid for pointing out the obvious :-)
Susan
Majd al-Din
> On 6-Jun-2009, mir...@actcom.co.il wrote:
>
>>> He also lies about the questions ever having been
>>> answered. He lies, start to finish.
>>>
>>> Susan
>> Susan , You are correct , Mr Duwaynea does not ask questions , he asks
>> Rhetorical Questions , which aren`t meant to be answered , because
>> they are built so that they can be used as a spring board to
>
> has been proven right. He started on me at the very beginning
> of the thread, right after he called Judaism "vile".
It really burns your ass that he is 100% correct.
>
>> Bashing
>> the person who `supposedly` didn`t answer them.
>>
> Also because the answer given showed him up for the lying
> hatemonger he is, rather than knuckled under to his projecting
> said bigotry onto his exposer.
>
>> Proffessor Hofstadter , had some marvelous articles about these kinds
>> of questions ,,,
>
> I always wish I could get paid for pointing out the obvious :-)
>
> Susan
You obviously would starve to death as you are definitely mentally bankrupt.
�R. L. Measures
mir...@actcom.co.il
> murders have some good questions for you and your Bullshit Professor.
===================
Douglas Hofstadter is College Professor of Cognitive Science and
Computer Science at Indiana University, where he also directs the
Fluid Analogies Research Group, nicknamed “FARG”, at the Center for
Research on Concepts and Cognition. For roughly 25 years, the
FARGonauts have been making computational models of our human concepts
and categories, the premise being that if and when these mini-concepts
achieve the holy grail of “fluidity”, creative analogy-making will be
an outcome. Progress has been made, but there is still far to go (see
Fluid Concepts & Creative Analogies).
Hofstadter’s interests concerning the human mind are varied, ranging
from errors as a window on the mind (see “To Err is Human; To Study
Error-making is Cognitive Science”) to the mechanisms of creativity to
the nature of consciousness (see I Am a Strange Loop and The Mind’s
I). Currently his most active goal is to reveal how analogy-making
lies at the base of all human thought (see “Analogy as the Core of
Cognition” and hopefully, in a couple of years, Toward the Roots of
Thought).
Hofstadter has a lifelong love for languages, and has written a tome
about translation, analogies, constraints, and creativity (Le Ton beau
de Marot: In Praise of the Music of Language), plus translated many
poems and two novels into English – one novel in verse (Pushkin’s
Eugene Onegin) and one in prose (Françoise Sagan’s La Chamade,
anagrammatically titled in English That Mad Ache). He has also spent
much time doing art and music (see Ambigrammi).
From 1981 to 1983, taking over from Martin Gardner’s incomparable
“Mathematical Games” column, Hofstadter wrote the free-ranging
“Metamagical Themas” column for Scientific American, from which a book
of that title was later created.
Hofstadter received his doctorate in physics from the University of
Oregon in 1975, and his thesis project led him to discover that
crystal electrons in magnetic fields have a beautiful self-similar
energy spectrum, the graph of which has since been dubbed the
“Hofstadter butterfly”. A couple of decades after his Ph.D., he
started avidly exploring the astonishing role played by irrational
analogical leaps in progress in physics, and he plans eventually to
write a book on the topic.
In the early 1960’s, Douglas Hofstadter majored in mathematics at
Stanford, and it was his passion for number theory and logic that led
him eventually to writing the book for which he is best known, Gödel,
Escher, Bach: an Eternal Golden Braid. Later in life, he discovered a
latent love for geometries of many types, and a special delight in the
lowly Euclidean triangle. Here, too, a book may one day come out,
focused on the discovery process in mathematics. Last but not least is
Hofstadter’s passion for making abstract-seeming mathematical ideas,
such as group theory and Galois theory, visualizable and very down-to-
earth.
The key lodestars that constantly guide what Hofstadter himself
produces and that determine what he savors in others’ work are:
simplicity, clarity, structural elegance, and a relentless attempt to
understand and to explain subtle ideas in terms that are as concrete
and as elementary as possible.
Although Douglas Hofstadter is nominally associated with a few
departments at Indiana University, he is actually left pretty much
alone to pursue his multifarious interests, which he does with
alacrity, celerity, vim, vigor, and vitality. Hofstadter’s own way of
characterizing his personal style and his personal goals runs as
follows: “perpetually in search of beauty.”
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>
>
TDNY
TDNY
docremington
TDNY wrote:
> http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/46358,features,in-pictures-after-the-israelis-left-the-gaza-ghetto
>
"Sights And Smells Of Gaza" tour garbage.
docremington
Where can we see palisimian settlements in the palisimian-occupied
judea & samaria?
dsharavi
>>>these are irational questions , one can not ask , because there is no
>>>answer ,,
>>The question is this: "If god commanded you to commit genocide, would
>>you do it?"
On Jun 5, 9:01 pm, mir...@actcom.co.il wrote:
>Mr Duwaynea
>As i told you , some questions can`t be answered until the REAL life
>moment , when you have to act on the spot , and know that your
>reaction or non action will have results !!!!
>Until that moment you can`t answer that so called question, which pure
>RHETHORICAL . ALAS , Life isn`t a debating club, as some of you seem
>to imagine.
It certainly seems a part of a debating club, albeit a low-level one,
when the same sophmoric question is repetitiously posed, in various
permutations. It seems the asker who keeps repeating it simply can't
get it through his head how utterly silly his question is. The subject
of high school natterings.
What could one do if Duwaune's god "commanded you to commit genocide"?
There are several options: 1) Fall on your face and laugh; 2) Make a
deal for lots of riches (not a good option); 3) Run and hide; 4)
Protest your general inadequacy for the task (and reference a physical
infirmity, like stuttering); or 5) Respectfully suggest he get someone
else for the job; for instance, himself. All are tried and valid
responses, even though none of those who so responded was "commanded
to commit genocide".
There's also the option of seeing a shrink, because anyone who thinks
Duwyane's god would appear and command one to "commit genocide" is
obviously not playing with a full deck. Ahmadinutjob of Iran comes to
mind.
>>Now, it seems that you believe in god.
>As a Loud Claimer of Human rights believer , you should know that
>matters of belief or non belief are very intimate and personal , and
>that each person has the Right to his/her own beliefs.
I doubt Duwayne would understand the joke "Two Jews, three opinions"
-- and that it's not entirely a joke.
>>And at least one of you fruitcakes
>Calling a Believer by an unkind insulting name, is against Human Free
>right for freedom of thoughts and belief.
Health to you, mirjam.
>>It seems you are just *saying* the question has no answer
>You may think what you want , why can`t you respect the plainfact that
>peolple write what they mean. I really know that this questions have
>no answer. Some questions in life has no answer. Things happen and you
>don`t know why.
>>because you think the answer is "yes,"
This must be Duwayne's dogmatic missionizing streak again. Duwayne,
with his black-and-white mentality, preconceives the answer to this
utterly ludicrous question to be to be "I'd tell god to fuck off". I
don't think I'd care to invite any supernatural being to do that, but,
in any event, Duwayne's question is moot, since Gd wouldn't command
one to commit genocide. Duwayne's ex-Gawd of Luv might, though.
Ahmadinutjob, definitely.
>You would like me to think something that will serve your strange
>claims ?
>Sorry i told you Some questions have NO answers .
That's one of Duwayne's major problems; his black-and-white mentality
allows for no gradations of grey.
>>but you don't want to look like a flaming
>>fanatic (like Michael Ejercito) by saying so in public.
>Interesting that a person like you whose posts are Filled with Fanatic
>Hatred to Jews and Israel , calls anybody else fanatic , I respect
>Michael`s right to have his own opinions.
>>I think the answer is perfectly clear. If god told me to commit
>>genocide I'd tell him "no." If he said he'd send me to hell if I
>>didn't commit genocide I'd still say "no."
>Mr Duwaynea, you probably lead a very easy life, and you are mixing
>up a load of Theological ideas with Political and xhenophobic ideas ,
>By the way , the idea of a God Sending people to Hell , doesn`t apply
>to Jews , this is a Complete Christian Thelogical Thing....
I was going to say that, if going to hell was the penalty for refusing
Duwayne's god's command to commit genocide, then, sure, no problem,
I'll go to hell. But you beat me to it. <smirk>
>>>You don`t know such things until they really Are happening , just
>>>please stop with this questions that you write just to annoy people .
>>>mirjam
I don't think he's trying to annoy, so much as he's trying to
reinforce his decision to severe himself from his church. He simply
doesn't understand that if he needs his decision reinforced, he should
go to his fellow (former fellow?) Xians. He's not likely to get it
from people who, when two decide to build a shul, they build three:
"One for you, one for me, and we can both boycott that SOB on the
hill." Duwayne probably wouldn't get that, any more than he would
understand "Two Jews, three opinions".
>>If god told me to commit genocide, I'd tell god to go fuck himself.
>
>And how is
>this is related to my story about the Gaz Station accident ?
>mirjam
It isn't, of course. It's Duwayne listening to the sound of his own
opinions, and refusing to consider those others--or that others'
opinions might not necessarily coincide with his own. Then, too,
there's his lack of consideration for dissenting opinions stemming
from those who aren't men. In case you hadn't noticed, he's a bit of a
sexist, too.
Deborah
dsharavi
>>>answered. He lies, start to finish.
>>>Susan
>On 6-Jun-2009, mir...@actcom.co.il wrote:
>>Susan , You are correct , Mr Duwaynea does not ask questions , he asks
>>Rhetorical Questions , which aren`t meant to be answered , because
>>they are built so that they can be used as a spring board to
On Jun 6, 11:15 pm, flav...@verizon.net wrote:
>And he "asks" them solely to cover his own bigotry that
>has been exposed. He started on me at the very beginning
>of the thread, right after he called Judaism "vile".
>>Bashing
>>the person who `supposedly` didn`t answer them.
Duwayne asks leading questions, I think, but rarely any rhetorical
questions, and he asks them to use, not as a springboard to vilify
Judaism, per se; his underlying motive is to reassure himself that
his decision to cut his ties to the Mormon church was The Right Thing
To Do. That he based that decision on his misreading and
misinterpretation of one or two verses from Numbers 31 is the chief
sticking point with him -- or one of them. Apparently, reading the KJV
of the bible, as opposed the Mormon version of the bible, came as a
great shock to him. Then, too, there's probably the concept of the
Gawd of Luv adding fuel to the fire.
>Also because the answer given showed him up for the lying
>hatemonger he is, rather than knuckled under to his projecting
>said bigotry onto his exposer.
Duwayne is trying to project his own personal mindset onto others, by
way of adding reinforcements to his decision to cut his ties to his
church, based on his personal view of a KJV verse. Duwayne simply
can't seem to understand that neither version is relevant to Judaism;
that the texts have been gone over time and again for centuries; and,
most of all, that there exists in Judaism no single official dogmatic
interpretation, as is, apparently, the case with the religion he
follows.
>>Proffessor Hofstadter , had some marvelous articles about these kinds
>>of questions ,,,
>
>I always wish I could get paid for pointing out the obvious :-)
>Susan
Yes, but would you have to pay up whenever the obvious is pointed out
TO you? No thanks.
Deborah
fla...@verizon.net
On 7-Jun-2009, dsharavi <dsh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On 6-Jun-2009, mir...@actcom.co.il wrote:
> >>Susan , You are correct , Mr Duwaynea does not ask questions , he asks
> >>Rhetorical Questions , which aren`t meant to be answered , because
> >>they are built so that they can be used as a spring board to
>
> On Jun 6, 11:15 pm, flav...@verizon.net wrote:
> >And he "asks" them solely to cover his own bigotry that
> >has been exposed. He started on me at the very beginning
> >of the thread, right after he called Judaism "vile".
>
> >>Bashing
> >>the person who `supposedly` didn`t answer them.
>
> Duwayne asks leading questions, I think, but rarely any rhetorical
> questions, and he asks them to use, not as a springboard to vilify
> Judaism, per se;
No - he didn't need a springboard for that - he used Israel as that,
& the so-called "questions" were launched the minute his Jew-hatred
was discovered, as a projected defense to try to get out of addressing
his own bigotry.
> his underlying motive is to reassure himself that
> his decision to cut his ties to the Mormon church was The Right Thing
> To Do.
Oh, there's that, too, I'm sure - whatever.
> That he based that decision on his misreading and
> misinterpretation of one or two verses from Numbers 31 is the chief
> sticking point with him -- or one of them. Apparently, reading the KJV
> of the bible, as opposed the Mormon version of the bible, came as a
> great shock to him. Then, too, there's probably the concept of the
> Gawd of Luv adding fuel to the fire.
>
> >Also because the answer given showed him up for the lying
> >hatemonger he is, rather than knuckled under to his projecting
> >said bigotry onto his exposer.
>
> Duwayne is trying to project his own personal mindset onto others, by
> way of adding reinforcements to his decision to cut his ties to his
> church,
Yes, I can see that, clearly.
& yet, his mindset is still Mormon
(And, interestingly enough, looks close to Scientology tactics)
> based on his personal view of a KJV verse. Duwayne simply
> can't seem to understand that neither version is relevant to Judaism;
> that the texts have been gone over time and again for centuries; and,
> most of all, that there exists in Judaism no single official dogmatic
> interpretation, as is, apparently, the case with the religion he
> follows.
>
> >>Proffessor Hofstadter , had some marvelous articles about these kinds
> >>of questions ,,,
> >
> >I always wish I could get paid for pointing out the obvious :-)
> >Susan
>
> Yes, but would you have to pay up whenever the obvious is pointed out
> TO you? No thanks.
:-)
Susan
�R. L. Measures
> On 7-Jun-2009, dsharavi <dsh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >On 6-Jun-2009, mir...@actcom.co.il wrote:
> > >>Susan , You are correct , Mr Duwaynea does not ask questions , he asks
> > >>Rhetorical Questions , which aren`t meant to be answered , because
> > >>they are built so that they can be used as a spring board to
> >
> > On Jun 6, 11:15 pm, flav...@verizon.net wrote:
> > >And he "asks" them solely to cover his own bigotry that
> > >has been exposed. He started on me at the very beginning
> > >of the thread, right after he called Judaism "vile".
> >
> > >>Bashing
> > >>the person who `supposedly` didn`t answer them.
> >
> > Duwayne asks leading questions, I think, but rarely any rhetorical
> > questions, and he asks them to use, not as a springboard to vilify
> > Judaism, per se;
>
> No - he didn't need a springboard for that - he used Israel as that,
> & the so-called "questions" were launched the minute his Jew-hatred
> was discovered, as a projected defense to try to get out of addressing
> his own bigotry.
>
� indeed
"Stupid is as stupid does."
- F. Gump
Duwaynea Anderson
> > He also lies about the questions ever having been
> > answered.
What was the answer?
> He lies, start to finish.
>
> > Susan
>
> Susan , You are correct , Mr Duwaynea does not ask questions , he asks
> Rhetorical Questions ,
Asking someone if they unconditionally condemn genocide would only be
considered "rhetorical" by a homicidal maniac.
<snip to end>
Duwaynea Anderson
> >>>He also lies about the questions ever having been
> >>>answered. He lies, start to finish.
> >>>Susan
> >On 6-Jun-2009, mir...@actcom.co.il wrote:
> >>Susan , You are correct , Mr Duwaynea does not ask questions , he asks
> >>Rhetorical Questions , which aren`t meant to be answered , because
> >>they are built so that they can be used as a spring board to
>
> On Jun 6, 11:15 pm, flav...@verizon.net wrote:
>
> >And he "asks" them solely to cover his own bigotry that
> >has been exposed. He started on me at the very beginning
> >of the thread, right after he called Judaism "vile".
> >>Bashing
> >>the person who `supposedly` didn`t answer them.
>
> Duwayne asks leading questions,
You think these are some sort of trick questions, designed to trap
you? And yet you say you answered them. And yet you won't repeat the
answer.
Can't you keep your story straight?
Once again, here are the questions that drive the racists/bigots nuts:
1) Are all people (including Palestinians, Jews, etc.) born with
certain inalienable rights, including the right to live, and the right
to personal freedom/self determination?
2) Do you agree with the inalienable rights described at this link?
http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/
3) If your god commanded you to commit genocide, would you do it?
4) Do you unconditionally condemn genocide?
Any moral/ethica person wouldn't find those to be "leading" or trick
question.
Any moral/ethical person would be happy to answer them.
Why do they cause you so much trouble, Deborah?
<snip to end>
RabbiJoekerr
wrote:
yes duhwayne why do you have so much trouble being honest and
ethical... you wont answer questions you twist and warp answers and
make false accusations and all of this because you hate Jews!
Duwaynea Anderson
It's anti-Semitic to suggest that advocating for human rights, laws
against genocide, means "hates Jews."
Duwaynea Anderson
>
>
>
> > > > > > You're wrong if you think it's anti-Semitic to equate support for
> > > > > > basic human rights with anti-Semitism.
>
> > > > > You're wrong if you think that *anyone* has missed
> > > > > your projection of your own bigotry as anything else.
>
> > > > > Susan
>
> > > > Here are the questions I've been asking you, Susan.
>
> > > Dodge noted - AGAIN.
>
> > Thanks for confessing.
>
> That you've dodged the fact that you were falsely projecting
> your bigory onto those who exposed it?
Find the bigotry in these questions I've been asking you, Susan:
1) Are all people (including Palestinians, Jews, etc.) born with
certain inalienable rights, including the right to live, and the right
to personal freedom/self determination?
2) Do you agree with the inalienable rights described at this link?
http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/
Duwaynea Anderson
> On 5-Jun-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > > > > And here we go again: DuWayne's bigotry is exposed,
>
> > > > It doesn't take a "bigot" to ask these questions:
>
> > > It takes a bigot to pretend they are "questions"
>
> > They're questions designed to stump bigots.
>
> Except for them not being questions, but rather projections
> of your own bigotry
You have it bass akwards. It takes a bigot to imagine bigotry in
these questions
1) Are all people (including Palestinians, Jews, etc.) born with
certain inalienable rights, including the right to live, and the right
to personal freedom/self determination?
2) Do you agree with the inalienable rights described at this link?
http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/
Any honest/ethical person would answer the questions with "yes,"
Susan.
Why won't you?
Duwaynea Anderson
<snip>
> Yes or no, Duwayne. f your god commanded you to stop drooling over
> Caroline's snatch at her gymnastic meets,
I'm an atheist. I don't have a god or gods.
You do, however. And you've admitted that it's possible for your god
to command his/her/its subjects to commit genocide. So I think it’s
time for you to answer this question – the one that you have snipped,
ignored, and dodged:
Question: “If your god commanded you to commit genocide, would you do
it?”
It's a simple question. The fact that you refuse to answer it tells
us exactly what your answer is.
<snip rest of Deborah's frustrated sexual fantasy>
Duwaynea Anderson
<snip>
> You also failed and refused to answer with a "no" -- or a "yes" -- the
> question:
> Did Jacob, Mischael, Caroline, and Christopher -- and Laura, too --
> suffer acute embarassment when you were arrested for indecent exposure
> on the corner of Pittsburgh and Hankey?
Can't be embarrassed over something that didn't happen.
Now, if you are through writing fiction as an expression of your
sexual fantasies, I think it's time you actually dealt with the
substantive issues here.
You really do worship a god that might tell you to commit genocide.
You allowed for that possibility.
So, since you allow that it is possible that your god might tell you
to commit genocide, I think the rest of us would like to know what you
intend to do if/when this evil god of yours tells you to start killing
people.
<snip to end>
fla...@verizon.net
On 8-Jun-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <Duwayne...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 5, 9:23�pm, mir...@actcom.co.il wrote:
> > > He also lies about the questions ever having been
> > > answered.
>
> What was the answer?
It's in the thread - and you know which one it is, because
your contradictory lies show how desperate you are about it.
> >
> > Susan , You are correct , Mr Duwaynea does not ask questions , he asks
> > Rhetorical Questions ,
>
> Asking someone if they unconditionally condemn genocide would only be
> considered "rhetorical" by a homicidal maniac.
Except whe it's someone who is falsely pretending anyone
needs to be asked it solely to hide his own bigotry
But, your growing desperation, as proven by your growing
hyperbole, is noted.
Susan
fla...@verizon.net
On 8-Jun-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <Duwayne...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 5, 4:11�pm, flav...@verizon.net wrote:
> > On �5-Jun-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > > > > > You're wrong if you think it's anti-Semitic to equate support
> > > > >for
> > > > > > > basic human rights with anti-Semitism.
> >
> > > > > > You're wrong if you think that *anyone* has missed
> > > > > > your projection of your own bigotry as anything else.
> >
> > > > > > Susan
> >
> > > > > Here are the questions I've been asking you, Susan.
> >
> > > > Dodge noted - AGAIN.
> >
> > > Thanks for confessing.
> >
> > That you've dodged the fact that you were falsely projecting
> > your bigory onto those who exposed it?
>
> Find the bigotry in these questions I've been asking you, Susan:
It;s int he fact that - as I have pointed out every time you
try trhis dodge - the fact they are not questions, but your
projecting your own bigotry onto those who exposed it.
Susan
fla...@verizon.net
On 8-Jun-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <Duwayne...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 5, 4:28�pm, flav...@verizon.net wrote:
> > On �5-Jun-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > > > > And here we go again: DuWayne's bigotry is exposed,
> >
> > > > > It doesn't take a "bigot" to ask these questions:
> >
> > > > It takes a bigot to pretend they are "questions"
> >
> > > They're questions designed to stump bigots.
> >
> > Except for them not being questions, but rather projections
> > of your own bigotry
>
> You have it bass akwards.
Your desperation does make lies true.
You only threw these "questions" at those who exposed
your bigotry as a lame attempt to project said bigotry
onto those who exposed it. This is proven by not just
your refusal to ever address your bigotry, but the
contradictory lies you have told about the answer you
received.
Susan
RabbiJoekerr
wrote:
> On Jun 8, 1:24 pm, RabbiJoekerr <jokersotherm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jun 8, 2:19 pm, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > yes duhwayne why do you have so much trouble being honest and
> > ethical... you wont answer questions you twist and warp answers and
> > make false accusations and all of this because you hate Jews!
>
> It's anti-Semitic to suggest that advocating for human rights, laws
> against genocide, means "hates Jews."
Notice how duhwayne the rabid racist doesn't answer the charges but
falsely claims he is merely advocating rights etc...
yes the liar duhwayne exposes himself again!!! As if he can escape his
earlier conduct!!!
RabbiJoekerr
wrote:
ooops duhwayne got caught lying again!!!
> > - Show quoted text -
Now answer the questions asked racist liar!!!
RabbiJoekerr
wrote:
> Why have these questions caused you so much trouble?
Because any answer given is either twisted by you into something else
followed by your false accusations
or your lies claiming there was no answer...
now either respond to the questions asked of you or go back to your
fellow racists and leave us in peace!
RabbiJoekerr
wrote:
>
> They're questions designed to stump bigots. And they've done that
> nicely.
>
you're a liar... you simply pretend you don't see the responses or use
warped and depraved reasoning to twist their responses into something
else... you are the bigot!
RabbiJoekerr
wrote:
> On Jun 5, 4:28 pm, flav...@verizon.net wrote:
>
> > On 5-Jun-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > And here we go again: DuWayne's bigotry is exposed,
>
> > > > > It doesn't take a "bigot" to ask these questions:
>
> > > > It takes a bigot to pretend they are "questions"
>
> > > They're questions designed to stump bigots.
>
> > Except for them not being questions, but rather projections
> > of your own bigotry
>
> You have it bass akwards. It takes a bigot to imagine bigotry in
> these questions
designed to justify your bigotry!
RabbiJoekerr
wrote:
>
> Can't be embarrassed over something that didn't happen.
ahhh and using your own dimwitted and pathetic attempt at logic...
since "God" hasn't asked us to commit genocide none of us can honestly
answer that question!
Duwaynea Anderson
> On 8-Jun-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jun 5, 4:28 pm, flav...@verizon.net wrote:
> > > On 5-Jun-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > And here we go again: DuWayne's bigotry is exposed,
>
> > > > > > It doesn't take a "bigot" to ask these questions:
>
> > > > > It takes a bigot to pretend they are "questions"
>
> > > > They're questions designed to stump bigots.
>
> > > Except for them not being questions, but rather projections
> > > of your own bigotry
>
> > You have it bass akwards.
>
> Your desperation does make lies true.
Nothing can make your lies true, Susan.
Now, about those questions you refuse to answer:
1) Do you unconditionally condemn genocide?
2) If your god commanded you to commit genocide, would you do it?
Any moral/ethical person would answer those questions, Susan.
Why won't you?
<snip to end>