Reaping what they've sown
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Head of MI research department says transfer of weapons from Syria to
Shiite terror group cannot be called smuggling, as it is organized,
official transfer. Brig.-Gen. Yossi Baidatz warns Hezbollah's military
capabilities developed significantly since 2006, group now has arsenal
of thousands of rockets
Amnon Meranda
Published: 05.04.10, 14:14 / Israel News
Israel is becoming increasingly concerned with the transfer of weapons
from Syria to Hezbollah. Head of the Military Intelligence's (MI)
research department Brig.-Gen. Yossi Baidatz said on Tuesday, "Weapons
are transferred to Hezbollah on a regular basis and this transfer is
organized by the Syrian and Iranian regimes. Therefore, it should not
be called smuggling of arms to Lebanon – it is organized and official
transfer."
He claimed that "the transfer of long-range missiles that was recently
published is only the tip of the iceberg."
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Baidatz on Tuesday briefed the Knesset's Foreign Affairs and Defense
Committee on the current state of affairs and stressed that "today,
Hezbollah has an arsenal of thousands of rockets of all types and
ranges, including long-range solid-fuel rockets and more precise
rockets."
He added, "The long-range missiles in Hezbollah's possession enable
them to fix their launch areas deep inside Lebanon, and they cover
longer, larger ranges than what we have come across in the past.
Hezbollah of 2006 is different from Hezbollah of 2010 in terms its
military capabilities, which have developed significantly.
"Hezbollah is in a tense spot between two different identities: Its
commitment to Jihad and Iran, and on the other hand, its political
considerations in Lebanon and the needs of the Shiite community.
Therefore, it has quietly selected its current course of action. The
MI believes it is not interested in another wide-scare confrontation
with Israel, it fears it, but is preparing for it. The organization
still publicly vows to carry out terror attacks against Israel."
According to the head of the MI's research department, "Syria
continues to march to both tunes, without being forced to choose
between them by the international community. On the one hand, it is
improving its ties with the West, with Arab states, and with Turkey,
and is also regaining influence within Lebanon, and on the other hand,
it is intensifying strategic and operational cooperation with Iran,
Hezbollah, and the Palestinian terror."
However, Baidatz noted that Syria considers a peace agreement with
Israel one of its top priorities. "The MI sees a Syrian desire to
reach an agreement, but on its own terms, meaning: Returning the
entire Golan Heights and American involvement."
According to MI estimates, in exchange for an agreement Syria is
willing to alter its activity on the radical axis, but Syrian
President Bashar Assad sees no change for progress with the current
Israeli government, and is therefore unwilling to make any confidence-
building moves.
'Abbas not flexible'
On the Palestinian front, a day before the opening of proximity talks,
the IDF has a grim estimate. "Abu Mazen (Palestinian President Mahmoud
Abbas) is interested in an agreement with Israel, but his range of
flexibility on the core issues is limited," the senior officer said.
"We do not recognize in Abu Mazen a true attempt for flexibility on
the fundamental issues, and he is expected to come with the same
position that existed in talks with the previous government. Abu Mazen
is preparing the ground for these talks to fail – which will bring
about the exposure of the true face of Israel."
Baidatz emphasized that there has been relative calm on all fronts in
the past year, mainly as a result of Israeli deterrence. However, he
said, "Despite the calm, there is no status-quo in Israel's strategic
surroundings. While there is a possibility for political agreements
with the Palestinians and the Syrians on the one hand, at the same
time, the negative trends that encompass us continued to intensify.
This includes Iranian nuclearization, the accelerated arming of all
our enemies in a close and distant radius, and the chance of a terror
attack that could lead to an escalation."
As for Iran, he said, "The Iranians continues to push forward with
their nuclear plans, and accumulate means that enable them to achieve
nuclear weapons the moment they decide to. From this moment, it all
depends on their decision. If in the past the attainment of nuclear
capabilities depended on overcoming the technological obstacles,
today, Iran is in a situation in which this depends solely on its
decision to begin production of a nuclear bomb."
Baidatz also commented on terror alerts in the Sinai Peninsula, "On
the eve of Passover there was a real alert related to Bedouin activity
in Sinai, who were meant to kidnap Israelis staying in Sinai and
transfer them to Hamas' military wing. There was a cooperation plan
between them. The reports deterred the groups, but there is still a
chance that Bedouins working as sub-contractors may kidnap Israelis
and transfer them to Hamas."
plainolamerican
wrote:
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their war - their problem
dsharavi
So, it's not our problem if Israel decides to nuke a few ragheads,
right?
Deborah
American Eagle
> On May 4, 11:46 am, plainolamerican <plainolameri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On May 4, 1:34 pm, "iconocl...@yahoo.com" <coaster132...@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Military Intelligence: Hezbollah Scuds tip of iceberg
>>> Head of MI research department says transfer of weapons from Syria to
>>> Shiite terror group cannot be called smuggling, as it is organized,
>>> official transfer. Brig.-Gen. Yossi Baidatz warns Hezbollah's military
>>> capabilities developed significantly since 2006, group now has arsenal
>>> of thousands of rockets
>>> Amnon Meranda
>>> Published: 05.04.10, 14:14 / Israel News
>>> Israel is becoming increasingly concerned with the transfer of weapons
>>> from Syria to Hezbollah. Head of the Military Intelligence's (MI)
>>> research department Brig.-Gen. Yossi Baidatz said on Tuesday, "Weapons
>>> are transferred to Hezbollah on a regular basis and this transfer is
>>> organized by the Syrian and Iranian regimes. Therefore, it should not
Nor is it an American problem when those Rag heads nuclear armed
allies retaliate. Actually a nuke in that area carried by prevailing
winds will also poison ZionNaziland. I find it insulting that a
nasty Zionist first Jewess talks like she is a real American.
Real Americans don't jump up and down and screech for more American
money and American military support for the Terrorist State of Israel.
America at this time in History has deep needs to look to our own
interests. Israel is no friend of ours. That terrorist state has only
used us for immoral and genocidal gains in the ME. Dozens of Israels
spies are safely sent home when they should be shot on the spot and
Israel Bombed each and everytime we catch one.
coaste...@yahoo.com
Plainolamerican said:
> > their war - their problem
>
> So, it's not our problem if Israel decides to nuke a few ragheads,
> right?
>
> Deborah
Israel's nukes are going to be dismantled and destroyed. The Middle
East is going to become a Nuclear Free Zone! It's in the news today.
I've posted a new thread on it. HA! Attack Iran, indeed. Attack the
problem at its root! And THAT is the Israeli introduction of nuclear
weapons into the region in the first place.
The US and Russia are drafting the Security Council Resolution as we
type. Can you imagine that? The old Cold War rivals, history's arch
proliferationists, having just reduced their nuclear weapons to about
a sixth of what they were, are now working together toward a nuclear
free Middle East. All five permanent voting members have already
agreed on it and THEREFORE there will be no American veto! Netanyahu
has been "informed".
And if Israel refuses to cooperate? A unanimous Security Council
Resolution and SANCTIONS. There's a brilliant light at the end of the
tunnel. And just look at the timing. The proximity talks start today
or tomorrow.
This makes my day. How 'bout you, Deb? Nuking ragheads? Is that the
next step? Naaw, I don't think so.
dsharavi
wrote:
> Plainolamerican said:
>
> > > their war - their problem
>
> > So, it's not our problem if Israel decides to nuke a few ragheads,
> > right?
>
> > Deborah
>
> Israel's nukes are going to be dismantled and destroyed.
A big day in comedy? Not really, however comedic the thought may be.
> This makes my day.
Really? Weren't you just getting off on fantasising about
Funkenstein's erections forty years from now?
Deborah
Count 1
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>
> Plainolamerican said:
>
>> > their war - their problem
>>
>> So, it's not our problem if Israel decides to nuke a few ragheads,
>> right?
>>
>> Deborah
>
> Israel's nukes are going to be dismantled and destroyed. The Middle
> East is going to become a Nuclear Free Zone! It's in the news today.
> I've posted a new thread on it. HA! Attack Iran, indeed. Attack the
> problem at its root! And THAT is the Israeli introduction of nuclear
> weapons into the region in the first place.
Uhhh....
Who put Iran in the Middle East?
I guess we can add 'geography' to the list of subjects you possess no
knowledge of.
In case no one noticed, Iran can't produce a nuclear weapon. Not only on the
technical side (all of their undeclared experiments and work to make a bomb
fell short) but also on the strategic side. For almost a decade now Iran has
been telling the world they only want nuclear energy, not weapons. As soon
as they test detonate their first weapon, the only way to be really sure
they have one, the entire world will rise up against them, as their lies
will have been exposed so clearly even apologists for Islamic
fundamentalists like yourself will see them clearly.
And why will the world rise up against Iran? Because no one wants an
Islamic fundamentalist regime with a long record of supporting terrorist
organizations abroad to be a nuclear armed power.
'The root of the problem' isn't the fact that Israel (probably) has nuclear
weapons, it's that they felt they needed them in the first place. Forcing
Israel to give them up sets a pretty scary precedent and transfers far too
much power into the hands of the UN. Are we really prepared to have the UN
telling nations what their defensive capabilities should be? Is the UN
really the correct body to be dictating to countries how many and what kinds
of weapons they need?
Be careful what you wish for Hunter, you just might get it.
Count 1
"dsharavi" <dsha...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Deborah
****
I still don't understand how this is Israel reaping what it's sown. All wars
Israel has been involved in were started by someone else, all have been
defensive. Additionally this article speaks about Syria wanting a peace deal
with Israel. Is that 'reaping what they've sown' as well? They already
forged peace with Jordan and Israel.
It's an interesting article as it highlights the complexity of threats
Israel faces. From internal kidnappings with transfering hosages to Hamas to
Iran enabling proxy armies in total violation of international law, UNSC
Resolutions, and common sense. The article even states that increased
Israeli deterrence is making positive gains with relative calm for an
extended period. 'Reaping what they sow'? If so, lets hope Israel keeps
sowing it.
Count 1
> This makes my day.
Deborah
***
LOL.
coaste...@yahoo.com
> "dsharavi" <dshara...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
Awww. You don't share my optimism. But you can still tell us whether a
nuclear free Middle East would be in the national interests of Canada.
That's a no brainer. And if you get it wrong you're still Richard
Ratner.
coaste...@yahoo.com
It was my header. You should have asked me.
Count 1
On May 5, 9:55 pm, "Count 1" <omnipitus2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "dsharavi" <dshara...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:c2cc1f68-9acc-4035...@a21g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
> On May 5, 12:13 pm, "iconocl...@yahoo.com" <coaster132...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Plainolamerican said:
>
> > > > their war - their problem
>
> > > So, it's not our problem if Israel decides to nuke a few ragheads,
> > > right?
>
> > > Deborah
>
> > Israel's nukes are going to be dismantled and destroyed.
>
> A big day in comedy? Not really, however comedic the thought may be.
>
> > This makes my day.
>
> Really? Weren't you just getting off on fantasising about
> Funkenstein's erections forty years from now?
>
> Deborah
> ***
>
> LOL.
Awww. You don't share my optimism.
***
That and your sense of humour. C'mon Hunter, surely even you can find what
Deb said funny.
***
But you can still tell us whether a
nuclear free Middle East would be in the national interests of Canada.
***
It's not even remotely relevant to Canadian national interests.
***
That's a no brainer. And if you get it wrong you're still Richard
Ratner.
***
Sure I am benjie. And Altopia is my ISP.. <wink wink>.
coaste...@yahoo.com
> "iconocl...@yahoo.com" <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:3e610024-a3f3-4d41...@r11g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
> On May 5, 9:55 pm, "Count 1" <omnipitus2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "dsharavi" <dshara...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:c2cc1f68-9acc-4035...@a21g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
> > On May 5, 12:13 pm, "iconocl...@yahoo.com" <coaster132...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > Plainolamerican said:
>
> > > > > their war - their problem
>
> > > > So, it's not our problem if Israel decides to nuke a few ragheads,
> > > > right?
>
> > > > Deborah
>
> > > Israel's nukes are going to be dismantled and destroyed.
>
> > A big day in comedy? Not really, however comedic the thought may be.
>
> > > This makes my day.
>
> > Really? Weren't you just getting off on fantasising about
> > Funkenstein's erections forty years from now?
>
> > Deborah
> > ***
>
> > LOL.
>
> Awww. You don't share my optimism.
> ***
>
> That and your sense of humour. C'mon Hunter, surely even you can find what
> Deb said funny.
Not a chance.
dsharavi
> "dsharavi" <dshara...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
Neither do I. But who can fathom the mentality of the sonei Yisrael?
>All wars
> Israel has been involved in were started by someone else, all have been
> defensive. Additionally this article speaks about Syria wanting a peace deal
> with Israel. Is that 'reaping what they've sown' as well? They already
> forged peace with Jordan and Israel.
Who, the Syrians?
> It's an interesting article as it highlights the complexity of threats
> Israel faces. From internal kidnappings with transfering hosages to Hamas to
> Iran enabling proxy armies in total violation of international law, UNSC
> Resolutions, and common sense. The article even states that increased
> Israeli deterrence is making positive gains with relative calm for an
> extended period. 'Reaping what they sow'? If so, lets hope Israel keeps
> sowing it.
There are comprehensive arguments as to how the so-called
"settlements" have actually been a spur to peace negotiations. It
would seem likely.
Deborah
dsharavi
> "iconocl...@yahoo.com" <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:3e610024-a3f3-4d41...@r11g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
> On May 5, 9:55 pm, "Count 1" <omnipitus2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "dsharavi" <dshara...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:c2cc1f68-9acc-4035...@a21g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
> > On May 5, 12:13 pm, "iconocl...@yahoo.com" <coaster132...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > Plainolamerican said:
>
> > > > > their war - their problem
>
> > > > So, it's not our problem if Israel decides to nuke a few ragheads,
> > > > right?
>
> > > > Deborah
>
> > > Israel's nukes are going to be dismantled and destroyed.
>
> > A big day in comedy? Not really, however comedic the thought may be.
>
> > > This makes my day.
>
> > Really? Weren't you just getting off on fantasising about
> > Funkenstein's erections forty years from now?
>
> > Deborah
> > ***
>
> > LOL.
>
> Awww. You don't share my optimism.
> ***
>
> That and your sense of humour. C'mon Hunter, surely even you can find what
> Deb said funny.
That'll be the day.
Deborah
dsharavi
coaste...@yahoo.com
You don't ask the correct question: "So it's not "our" problem if
Israel's enemies nuke her back? What's the answer to that, Deb?
coaste...@yahoo.com
> On May 5, 12:13 pm, "iconocl...@yahoo.com" <coaster132...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Plainolamerican said:
>
> > > > their war - their problem
>
> > > So, it's not our problem if Israel decides to nuke a few ragheads,
> > > right?
>
> > > Deborah
>
> > Israel's nukes are going to be dismantled and destroyed.
>
> A big day in comedy? Not really, however comedic the thought may be.
Israel is not going to disarm Iran by bombing her. Israel simply can't
have a nuclear monopoly in the Middle East much less over the entire
Muslim World. The next best thing is a nuclear free zone where none
has the weapon. What does Israel lose by that? Not security of course.
What she loses is her goal of regional hegemony which has been tied
directly to the threat of Israeli nuclear attack.
> > This makes my day.
>
> Really?
You bet, Deb. It's making my week, my month. Netanyahu is floundering.
He knows what will happen if he's unreasonable. The UN and then the
Obama Plan! The Lobby won't be able to do a thing about it. None of it
requires the Congress to act ahead of time. We're going to save Israel
from herself, from her religio-ideological fanatics. We're going to
make it safe for you to do Aliya. Everyone wins.
coaste...@yahoo.com
> "iconocl...@yahoo.com" <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:5575cb6e-bba8-46b6...@a16g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > Plainolamerican said:
>
> >> > their war - their problem
>
> >> So, it's not our problem if Israel decides to nuke a few ragheads,
> >> right?
>
> >> Deborah
>
> > Israel's nukes are going to be dismantled and destroyed. The Middle
> > East is going to become a Nuclear Free Zone! It's in the news today.
> > I've posted a new thread on it. HA! Attack Iran, indeed. Attack the
> > problem at its root! And THAT is the Israeli introduction of nuclear
> > weapons into the region in the first place.
>
> Uhhh....
>
> Who put Iran in the Middle East?
The Nuclear Free Zone will include Iran. Israel is not in the Middle
East anyway, She's in the Near East. You sound like a grade school
pedant.
> I guess we can add 'geography' to the list of subjects you possess no
> knowledge of.
Yes, a grade school pedant.
>
> In case no one noticed, Iran can't produce a nuclear weapon. Not only on the
> technical side (all of their undeclared experiments and work to make a bomb
> fell short) but also on the strategic side. For almost a decade now Iran has
> been telling the world they only want nuclear energy, not weapons. As soon
> as they test detonate their first weapon, the only way to be really sure
> they have one, the entire world will rise up against them, as their lies
> will have been exposed so clearly even apologists for Islamic
> fundamentalists like yourself will see them clearly.
Just as the world rose up against the US, the Soviet Union, Britain,
France, Israel, China, etc.. After all, who could have been more
dangerous than the Soviet Union and China?
>
> And why will the world rise up against Iran? Because no one wants an
> Islamic fundamentalist regime with a long record of supporting terrorist
> organizations abroad to be a nuclear armed power.
It's not going to be necessary. There is going to be a nuclear free
Zone. Don't presume that Israel will decide to keep her nuclear
weapons. There will be much too heavy a price for that. It will be too
dangerous. It will turn out not to be in her interest.
>
> 'The root of the problem' isn't the fact that Israel (probably) has nuclear
> weapons, it's that they felt they needed them in the first place.
Poor things. Just can't do without a genocidal capacity, eh? Well, the
rest of us will have to decide for her. That's been obvious for a
long, long time.
Forcing
> Israel to give them up sets a pretty scary precedent and transfers far too
> much power into the hands of the UN. Are we really prepared to have the UN
> telling nations what their defensive capabilities should be?
Certainly Israel given her history.
Is the UN
> really the correct body to be dictating to countries how many and what kinds
> of weapons they need?
There's no other and at least the UN is to some extent the embodiment
of collective decision making.
> Be careful what you wish for Hunter, you just might get it.
I certainlly hope so. Yes, a Middle East nuclear free Zone.
coaste...@yahoo.com
> "dsharavi" <dshara...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
That's not surprising. You''re an Anglo Saxon Zionist.
All wars
> Israel has been involved in were started by someone else, all have been
> defensive.
Yes, an Anglo Saxon Zionist immersed in Hasbara History.
Additionally this article speaks about Syria wanting a peace deal
> with Israel. Is that 'reaping what they've sown' as well? They already
> forged peace with Jordan and Israel.
Kissenger did the forging.
> It's an interesting article as it highlights the complexity of threats
> Israel faces. From internal kidnappings with transfering hosages to Hamas to
> Iran enabling proxy armies in total violation of international law, UNSC
> Resolutions, and common sense.
It's contrary to "common sense" for a Muslim Country to deny Israel's
Europeans victory in an Imperial war of dispossession and ethnic
cleansing against other Muslims? I fail to understand your logic. The
US came to the aid of the Brits in both WWs I and II. It's perfectly
natural behavior. We have come to the aid of the Israelis more or less
involuntarily despite the fact that our connection with them is far
less intimate than that of Muslims to Muslims. We are now losing that
early enthusiasm based on having been used mercilessly.
The article even states that increased
> Israeli deterrence is making positive gains with relative calm for an
> extended period. 'Reaping what they sow'? If so, lets hope Israel keeps
> sowing it.
As is being said to the Israelis, "we're going to give you choices,
essentially take it or leave it choices."
coaste...@yahoo.com
> "iconocl...@yahoo.com" <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
You got it wrong, Ratner.
Count 1
Not a chance.
***
The ignorant are often humorless.
Count 1
On May 5, 9:34 pm, "Count 1" <omnipitus2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "iconocl...@yahoo.com" <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:5575cb6e-bba8-46b6...@a16g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > Plainolamerican said:
>
> >> > their war - their problem
>
> >> So, it's not our problem if Israel decides to nuke a few ragheads,
> >> right?
>
> >> Deborah
>
> > Israel's nukes are going to be dismantled and destroyed. The Middle
> > East is going to become a Nuclear Free Zone! It's in the news today.
> > I've posted a new thread on it. HA! Attack Iran, indeed. Attack the
> > problem at its root! And THAT is the Israeli introduction of nuclear
> > weapons into the region in the first place.
>
> Uhhh....
>
> Who put Iran in the Middle East?
The Nuclear Free Zone will include Iran. Israel is not in the Middle
East anyway, She's in the Near East. You sound like a grade school
pedant.
***
Actually we're both wrong. Modern geopolitical terms include Iran as part of
the middle east. "Near East" is just an older term that now means 'Middle
East' to some people and 'the Middle east plus north Africa' to other
people.
> I guess we can add 'geography' to the list of subjects you possess no
> knowledge of.
Yes, a grade school pedant.
***
Right. The difference between you and I is I have maturity to recognize my
errors, whereas you do not.
>
> In case no one noticed, Iran can't produce a nuclear weapon. Not only on
> the
> technical side (all of their undeclared experiments and work to make a
> bomb
> fell short) but also on the strategic side. For almost a decade now Iran
> has
> been telling the world they only want nuclear energy, not weapons. As soon
> as they test detonate their first weapon, the only way to be really sure
> they have one, the entire world will rise up against them, as their lies
> will have been exposed so clearly even apologists for Islamic
> fundamentalists like yourself will see them clearly.
Just as the world rose up against the US, the Soviet Union, Britain,
France, Israel, China, etc.. After all, who could have been more
dangerous than the Soviet Union and China?
***
Address the points, or just give up.
>
> And why will the world rise up against Iran? Because no one wants an
> Islamic fundamentalist regime with a long record of supporting terrorist
> organizations abroad to be a nuclear armed power.
It's not going to be necessary. There is going to be a nuclear free
Zone.
***
Rrrrright... just like we were going to end poverty, world hunger, and
conclude a war on terrorism. Talk about your rose colored glasses.
***
Don't presume that Israel will decide to keep her nuclear
weapons. There will be much too heavy a price for that. It will be too
dangerous. It will turn out not to be in her interest.
***
Don't presume Iran has any interest in a 'nuclear free zone'.
>
> 'The root of the problem' isn't the fact that Israel (probably) has
> nuclear
> weapons, it's that they felt they needed them in the first place.
Poor things. Just can't do without a genocidal capacity, eh? Well, the
rest of us will have to decide for her. That's been obvious for a
long, long time.
****
Israel really did need the bomb. She was struggling for survival among a sea
of enemies. All the defensive wars she's had to fight, from the day she was
formed up to Lebanon in 2006 testify to that. 'Genocidal capacity'? Hardly,
just a few nukes in case five countries at a time decide to attack her....
again.
The fact that Israel has never used a nuclear weapon speaks to her maturity,
her position as a 'wise warrior'. She knows it's like throwing a lit match
into a room full of gasoline and she refuses to go down that path.
Forcing
> Israel to give them up sets a pretty scary precedent and transfers far too
> much power into the hands of the UN. Are we really prepared to have the UN
> telling nations what their defensive capabilities should be?
Certainly Israel given her history.
***
I disagree, and you didn't address the precedent you're setting.
Is the UN
> really the correct body to be dictating to countries how many and what
> kinds
> of weapons they need?
There's no other and at least the UN is to some extent the embodiment
of collective decision making.
***
Good luck trying to convince the rest of the population of humanity that
their countries defensive needs should be determined by the UN.
> Be careful what you wish for Hunter, you just might get it.
I certainlly hope so. Yes, a Middle East nuclear free Zone.
***
Yep, I'm not suprised you want a whole lot more dead people in the Middle
East.
Count 1
***
Which has nothing to do with the lack of logic found in your headers.
All wars
> Israel has been involved in were started by someone else, all have been
> defensive.
Yes, an Anglo Saxon Zionist immersed in Hasbara History.
****
Ad hominems.... sheesh - how boring.
Additionally this article speaks about Syria wanting a peace deal
> with Israel. Is that 'reaping what they've sown' as well? They already
> forged peace with Jordan and Israel.
Kissenger did the forging.
***
Israel and Jordan and Egypt did the handshakes.
> It's an interesting article as it highlights the complexity of threats
> Israel faces. From internal kidnappings with transfering hosages to Hamas
> to
> Iran enabling proxy armies in total violation of international law, UNSC
> Resolutions, and common sense.
It's contrary to "common sense" for a Muslim Country to deny Israel's
Europeans victory in an Imperial war of dispossession and ethnic
cleansing against other Muslims? I fail to understand your logic.
***
Given that little bit of nonsense, I'm not surprised.
The
US came to the aid of the Brits in both WWs I and II. It's perfectly
natural behavior. We have come to the aid of the Israelis more or less
involuntarily despite the fact that our connection with them is far
less intimate than that of Muslims to Muslims. We are now losing that
early enthusiasm based on having been used mercilessly.
****
I'd double check the 'involuntary' part. Most American's support Israel's
right to exist and legitimacy. It's perfectly natural for the world's
dominant democracy to come to the aid of any other democracy.
The article even states that increased
> Israeli deterrence is making positive gains with relative calm for an
> extended period. 'Reaping what they sow'? If so, lets hope Israel keeps
> sowing it.
As is being said to the Israelis, "we're going to give you choices,
essentially take it or leave it choices."
***
Do you ever deal in reality?
Count 1
**
No, you did benjie. On just about everything you've ever stated.
Count 1
Toldja.
Deborah
***
Once again, you're right.
Count 1
> I still don't understand how this is Israel reaping what it's sown.
Neither do I. But who can fathom the mentality of the sonei Yisrael?
***
What 'mentality'?
>All wars
> Israel has been involved in were started by someone else, all have been
> defensive. Additionally this article speaks about Syria wanting a peace
> deal
> with Israel. Is that 'reaping what they've sown' as well? They already
> forged peace with Jordan and Israel.
Who, the Syrians?
***
Sorry - meant to write 'Jordan and Egypt'.
> It's an interesting article as it highlights the complexity of threats
> Israel faces. From internal kidnappings with transfering hosages to Hamas
> to
> Iran enabling proxy armies in total violation of international law, UNSC
> Resolutions, and common sense. The article even states that increased
> Israeli deterrence is making positive gains with relative calm for an
> extended period. 'Reaping what they sow'? If so, lets hope Israel keeps
> sowing it.
There are comprehensive arguments as to how the so-called
"settlements" have actually been a spur to peace negotiations. It
would seem likely.
****
Of course it would. "Facts on the ground" trumps "delusions of anti-semites"
anyday.
dsharavi
wrote:
Since you've never been able to recite a correct answer, what's the
point?
Deborah
dsharavi
> > > > > their war - their problem
>
> > > > So, it's not our problem if Israel decides to nuke a few ragheads,
> > > > right?
> > > > Deborah
>
> > On May 5, 12:13 pm, "iconocl...@yahoo.com" <coaster132...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> > > Israel's nukes are going to be dismantled and destroyed.
>
> > A big day in comedy? Not really, however comedic the thought may be.
>
wrote:
> Israel is not going to disarm Iran by bombing her. Israel simply can't
> have a nuclear monopoly in the Middle East much less over the entire
> Muslim World.
Therefore, according to the Communist stooge, Israel must be forcibly
divested of all her nukes, so that the world can be made free for
Hunter and his ilk to share in a little Muslim bacha bazi. And one can
guess that bacha bazi is why Hunter's suddenly so lovey-dovey toward
the Muslim Arab world.
Deborah
drahcir
So are the brain damaged.
Alexander
There is nothing more scary then a bunch or nuclear armed Jews anywhere
in this world. I strongly suggest Nuclear preemptive surgical strike
that takes out all of Israel, while a round up of supporting Jews in all
countries takes place. What to do with surviving Jews is a big question.
Without a doubt that like in all of time. they will be a problem in the
future.
CUNTICA
"There is nothing more scary then a bunch or nuclear armed Jews
anywhere in this world. I strongly suggest Nuclear preemptive surgical
strike that takes out all of Israel, while a round up of supporting
Jews in all countries takes place. What to do with surviving Jews is a
problem in the future."
.............................Yavol, Mein Fuhrer! Mach schnell!
Alexander
Ah yes...would you please translate? I don't read ZionNazi Jew talk.
>
CUNTICA
don't read much of anything do you?
george
> ..............................arsehole Alexander The Nothing, you
> don't read much of anything do you?
It's evident his reading doesn't include the history of WW2 and what
happenend to his nazi heroes
Alexander
> ..............................arsehole Alexander The Nothing, you
> don't read much of anything do you?
Ummm? Message not understood. Try again when you attain sanity, sobriety
and are drug free. Hmmm...I guess that means that you will never post again.
Alexander
But Giorgio, you are my Nazi Hero. Living in Kentucky, married to a
Jewess...Allowing her to cohabit with a black neighbor. Gee how liberal
can you Nazi's get?
CUNTICA
members of your extended family have 6 toes on each foot & 6 fingers
on each hand like you do?
CUNTICA
when you found out that your mother was also your sister, did you
start fucking her also?
coaste...@yahoo.com
> On May 5, 12:13 pm, "iconocl...@yahoo.com" <coaster132...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Plainolamerican said:
>
> > > > their war - their problem
>
> > > So, it's not our problem if Israel decides to nuke a few ragheads,
> > > right?
>
> > > Deborah
>
> > Israel's nukes are going to be dismantled and destroyed.
>
>
>
> Really? Weren't you just getting off on fantasising about
> Funkenstein's erections forty years from now?
>
> Deborah
Says struck dumb Deb.
drahcir
wrote:
Says our SCI village idiot after cogitating for three days,
desperately attempting to invent a witty barb in reply to Deb. The
above is the fruit of his labor.
coaste...@yahoo.com
> > I still don't understand how this is Israel reaping what it's sown.
>
> Neither do I. But who can fathom the mentality of the sonei Yisrael?
> ***
>
> What 'mentality'?
Communicating in Hebrew are you, El Senor Anglo Saxon? Or is that
Yiddish?
>
> >All wars
> > Israel has been involved in were started by someone else,
False.
all have been
> > defensive.
False. Most importantly the 1967 War.
How is it that this Anglo Saxon speaks Hasbara in addition to Hebrew.
Additionally this article speaks about Syria wanting a peace
> > deal
> > with Israel. Is that 'reaping what they've sown' as well? They already
> > forged peace with Jordan and Israel.
Of course. It will make the taking of the Golan and the extension of
the war an act of futility. They'll be lucky if they can get out of
the state of war they created that easily.
>
> Who, the Syrians?
> ***
>
> Sorry - meant to write 'Jordan and Egypt'.
>
> > It's an interesting article as it highlights the complexity of threats
> > Israel faces. From internal kidnappings with transfering hosages to Hamas
Such a dire threat already. Poor Israel. She starts a war against the
Palestinian PEOPLE in 1947. It begins with gross crimes against
750,000 INDIVIDUAL Palestinians. This war against defenseless
civilians continues to this day and you weep about the occasional
Israeli taken prisoner? Such an exceptional Anglo Saxon Canadian you
are. You're a whiner on the order of Mirjam,
> > to
> > Iran enabling proxy armies in total violation of international law, UNSC
> > Resolutions, and common sense.
The European Colonialists in Muslim Palestine have turned Iran into
Israel's enemy. Supine American support for these European
Colonialists in Muslim Palestine has further poisoned Iranian opinion
regarding the United States. American occupiers with 200,000 pairs of
boots on the ground elsewhere in Muslim lands, including the Saudi
holy land, has finished the job. And you malign their common sense?
Pure made in Israel Hasbara.
The article even states that increased
> > Israeli deterrence is making positive gains with relative calm for an
> > extended period. 'Reaping what they sow'? If so, lets hope Israel keeps
> > sowing it.
Of course you hope the war will not end. The US protects Israel but
hasn't stopped Israeli expansionism. The expansion is not yet fully
successful.
Tell us, what's your Anglo Saxon Canadian attitude toward the
settlements in the context of peace negotiations?
> There are comprehensive arguments as to how the so-called
> "settlements" have actually been a spur to peace negotiations. It
> would seem likely.
> ****
>
> Of course it would. "Facts on the ground" trumps "delusions of anti-semites"
> anyday.
The invasion of Poland in 1939 created facts on the ground just like
Netanyahu's beloved settlement program. It was perpetrated by anti-
Semites. Did those facts on the ground "trump" their own delusions?
Wouldn't it be better if we all just followed the law? How on earth
did you conclude that crime should pay?
coaste...@yahoo.com
Ha, I gave you the correct question and you clipped it. It was a very
good, revealing and correct question, so the clipping was ignoble,
Deb. The readers may wish to look at it again.
NEMO
sauerkraut & he's turned into a sour Kraut!
Yup!
coaste...@yahoo.com
> > > > Plainolamerican said:
> > > > > > their war - their problem
>
> > > > > So, it's not our problem if Israel decides to nuke a few ragheads,
> > > > > right?
> > > > > Deborah
>
> > > On May 5, 12:13 pm, "iconocl...@yahoo.com" <coaster132...@yahoo.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Israel's nukes are going to be dismantled and destroyed.
>
> > On May 5, 6:37 pm, dsharavi <dshara...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > A big day in comedy? Not really, however comedic the thought may be.
>
> On May 7, 12:07 pm, "iconocl...@yahoo.com" <coaster132...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Israel is not going to disarm Iran by bombing her. Israel simply can't
> > have a nuclear monopoly in the Middle East much less over the entire
> > Muslim World.
>
> Therefore, according to the Communist stooge,
Readers, Deborah knows full well that I am a vigorous, life-long anti-
totalitarian. Communism is totalitarian. So, in my opinion is the
Israeli occupation. The term State Department Liberal has dropped from
use, but it defines me so far as Marxism/Leninism is concerned. I
believe in human rights and Constitutionally based civil rights. I
believe in personal liberty. All these things Deborah is against so
far as Palestinians are concerned. Her position is parochial, mine is
universal.
By the same token if Muslims often prefer to unify Mosque and State,
and they are not bothering us, I don't see it as our business. If they
want democracy let THEM forge it in their own countries. It is far
beyond our capacity to impose it all over the world, much less in the
Middle East. Deborah wants the American people to be indefinitely
embroiled against Muslims in the Middle East at least because it makes
Americans easier to manage. It's a part of the phony "common enemy"
syndrome. The management of American policy from Tel Aviv via the
Lobby is a gross infringement of American national sovereignty. It
should never have been permitted in the first place. As a result we
have lost three trillion in what the economists call opportunity
costs. We're in a Gawdawful mess economically. We have become the
laughing stock of the rest of the world simply because we haven't the
guts to say no to a 1.8% minority, and we have 200,000 troops from our
ALL VOLUNTEER military in the region and YOU, dear readers, can't
articulate credibly why that is.
Israel must be forcibly
> divested of all her nukes,
No, no, Deb. Not forcibly. Definitely not. You know better. No guns to
the head. No resort to the rack. You use the word with knowing
inaccuracy. The readers know better too. What we expect to happen is
Europe, North America, the permanent members of the Security Council,
the General Assembly, etc., will in concert offer Israel and Iran some
hard choices. Harder for Israel than Iran, perhaps, but that can't be
helped. Posing those choices is in our sovereign national interest.
It's in the interest of the entire world. Israel can choose what she
prefers, to go it alone or in alliance with that power grid. She can
choose continued expansion over going it alone. She can choose nukes
over a Middle Eastern nuclear free zone and an endless arms race with
more and more radicalism in the Resistance. She can even choose
whether or not Manhattan is likely to eventually be wiped out in a
nuclear blast. That ought to sober the Lobby up a little. Just because
choices are hard and Israel is accustomed to getting her way with
American Administrations doesn't mean she will be forced, it's just
that her choices will be unpleasant.
Clip ad hom.
coaste...@yahoo.com
Let me say here only that Israel is a great threat to world peace,
perhaps the greatest.
coaste...@yahoo.com
What is it about Germans per se I should be hostile to?
Count 1
On May 7, 5:59 pm, "Count 1" <omnipitus2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > I still don't understand how this is Israel reaping what it's sown.
>
> Neither do I. But who can fathom the mentality of the sonei Yisrael?
> ***
>
> What 'mentality'?
Communicating in Hebrew are you, El Senor Anglo Saxon? Or is that
Yiddish?
***
English.
>
> >All wars
> > Israel has been involved in were started by someone else,
False.
***
Nope. True.
all have been
> > defensive.
False. Most importantly the 1967 War.
How is it that this Anglo Saxon speaks Hasbara in addition to Hebrew.
***
Is "Hasbara" yiddish for "factual"? And you're wrong again - All the wars
Israel has fought have been defensive.
Additionally this article speaks about Syria wanting a peace
> > deal
> > with Israel. Is that 'reaping what they've sown' as well? They already
> > forged peace with Jordan and Israel.
Of course. It will make the taking of the Golan and the extension of
the war an act of futility. They'll be lucky if they can get out of
the state of war they created that easily.
****
??
>
> Who, the Syrians?
> ***
>
> Sorry - meant to write 'Jordan and Egypt'.
>
> > It's an interesting article as it highlights the complexity of threats
> > Israel faces. From internal kidnappings with transfering hosages to
> > Hamas
Such a dire threat already. Poor Israel. She starts a war against the
Palestinian PEOPLE in 1947. It begins with gross crimes against
750,000 INDIVIDUAL Palestinians. This war against defenseless
civilians continues to this day and you weep about the occasional
Israeli taken prisoner? Such an exceptional Anglo Saxon Canadian you
are. You're a whiner on the order of Mirjam,
***
Palestinian propaganda and the delusions of discredited history professors
won't help you with me.
> > to
> > Iran enabling proxy armies in total violation of international law, UNSC
> > Resolutions, and common sense.
The European Colonialists in Muslim Palestine have turned Iran into
Israel's enemy. Supine American support for these European
Colonialists in Muslim Palestine has further poisoned Iranian opinion
regarding the United States. American occupiers with 200,000 pairs of
boots on the ground elsewhere in Muslim lands, including the Saudi
holy land, has finished the job. And you malign their common sense?
Pure made in Israel Hasbara.
***
Come up with something accurate and I'll respond. I'm not interested in your
lies about 'european colonialists' and 'muslim palestine'. I malign the
common sense Iran displays - as well as their disregard for international
law and UNSC resolutions which you don't address - because Iran is heading
down a path that will ultimately lead to the regime's dissamblement.
Iranians are getting increasingly bored of this scapegoating, and since 75%
of the population have spent their entire lives with Israel as a real
country....
The article even states that increased
> > Israeli deterrence is making positive gains with relative calm for an
> > extended period. 'Reaping what they sow'? If so, lets hope Israel keeps
> > sowing it.
Of course you hope the war will not end. The US protects Israel but
hasn't stopped Israeli expansionism. The expansion is not yet fully
successful.
****
What war? What 'expansionism'? These are false accusations and I'm not
surprised you make them against a nation filled with Jewish people.
Tell us, what's your Anglo Saxon Canadian attitude toward the
settlements in the context of peace negotiations?
****
Finally! Recognition of my nationality! Took you long enough.
'Settlements' is too broad a term to comment on. Some settlements don't
cause any Palestinians any concern, others are clearly meant to provoke and
wound. You and I would probably agree, if we sat down and looked at a map
that showed actual settlements and compared it with the history of the
region, on the validity of some. In the context of peace negotiations they
are used as propagandistic tools by Palestinians to thwart any peace
initiative.
For Israel they are dealt with much more pragmatically. For example the
dismantlement of all settlements in Gaza. (Expansionism indeed!) You seem to
labour under the falsehoods of palestinian propaganda. Try this website to
help you understand the situation more broadly...
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/myths/mf22a.html#a
> There are comprehensive arguments as to how the so-called
> "settlements" have actually been a spur to peace negotiations. It
> would seem likely.
> ****
>
> Of course it would. "Facts on the ground" trumps "delusions of
> anti-semites"
> anyday.
The invasion of Poland in 1939 created facts on the ground just like
Netanyahu's beloved settlement program.
***
LOL. Not even close Hunter, the two situations are completely different. For
someone who until recently didn't know Egypt occupied Gaza in 1948 you
should probably stay away from the topic of settlements and occupations.
It was perpetrated by anti-
Semites. Did those facts on the ground "trump" their own delusions?
Wouldn't it be better if we all just followed the law? How on earth
did you conclude that crime should pay?
***
I don't conclude that. The crime of attacking Israel in 1967 should be paid
for by losing territory. Taking land in defensive wars is perfectly
legitimate. It is the least painful of punishments we can enact on
aggressors. It is the best way to teach the aggressors a lesson, ie - best
in the sense that it doesn't require more war.
CUNTICA
kiss up to Excvonvict Ernst Zundel's greasy arse, eh?
coaste...@yahoo.com
She's right alright.
dsharavi
> "iconocl...@yahoo.com" <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> > But you can still tell us whether a
> > nuclear free Middle East would be in the national interests of Canada.
> > ***
>
> > It's not even remotely relevant to Canadian national interests.
>
> > ***
> > That's a no brainer. And if you get it wrong you're still Richard
> > Ratner.
> > ***
>
> > Sure I am benjie. And Altopia is my ISP.. <wink wink>.
>
> You got it wrong, Ratner.
> **
>
> No, you did benjie. On just about everything you've ever stated.
Ain't dat de trufe.
But wait! Shouldn't all of H's errors be attributed to Pappe and
Pappe's Ilk? You know H never read much of anything else, and even
that was in easy condensed form.
Deborah
dsharavi
wrote:
And raghead states, of course, are not--in Hunter Watson's alternate
universe, anyway.
Deborah
dsharavi
wrote:
> On May 7, 6:11 pm, dsharavi <dshara...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > > > > Plainolamerican said:
> > > > > > > their war - their problem
>
> > > > > > So, it's not our problem if Israel decides to nuke a few ragheads,
> > > > > > right?
> > > > > > Deborah
>
> > > > On May 5, 12:13 pm, "iconocl...@yahoo.com" <coaster132...@yahoo.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Israel's nukes are going to be dismantled and destroyed.
>
> > > On May 5, 6:37 pm, dsharavi <dshara...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > A big day in comedy? Not really, however comedic the thought may be.
>
> > On May 7, 12:07 pm, "iconocl...@yahoo.com" <coaster132...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > Israel is not going to disarm Iran by bombing her. Israel simply can't
> > > have a nuclear monopoly in the Middle East much less over the entire
> > > Muslim World.
>
> > Therefore, according to the Communist stooge,
>
> Readers, Deborah knows full well that I am a vigorous, life-long anti-
> totalitarian.
What I KNOW is that you're a gutless coward and a lying sack of
terrorist-supporting shi'ite, who never read a damned thing on the
subjects you attempt to address -- and lied about it all -- with the
exception of the propaganda spewed by an avowed Communist.
Don't tell me what I know, you gutless motherfucker.
Deborah
dsharavi
> > > > > > their war - their problem
> > > > > So, it's not our problem if Israel decides to nuke a few ragheads,
> > > > > right?
> > > > > Deborah
> > > On May 5, 12:13 pm, "iconocl...@yahoo.com" <coaster132...@yahoo.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Israel's nukes are going to be dismantled and destroyed.
> > On May 5, 6:37 pm, dsharavi <dshara...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > A big day in comedy? Not really, however comedic the thought may be.
>
> > > > This makes my day.
>
> > > Really? Weren't you just getting off on fantasising about
> > > Funkenstein's erections forty years from now?
> > > Deborah
> On May 8, 12:44 pm, "iconocl...@yahoo.com" <coaster132...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> > Says struck dumb Deb.
On May 8, 10:47 am, drahcir <justrichardsmu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Says our SCI village idiot after cogitating for three days,
> desperately attempting to invent a witty barb in reply to Deb. The
> above is the fruit of his labor.
Obviously H is as brain dead as he is dishonest and cowardly.
Deborah
dsharavi
wrote:
Nothing at all. H parrots Eichmann's views quite accurately from time
to time.
Deborah
dsharavi
> > >> > their war - their problem
> > >> So, it's not our problem if Israel decides to nuke a few ragheads,
> > >> right?
> > >> Deborah
> > "iconocl...@yahoo.com" <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote
> > > Israel's nukes are going to be dismantled and destroyed. The Middle
> > > East is going to become a Nuclear Free Zone! It's in the news today.
> > > I've posted a new thread on it. HA! Attack Iran, indeed. Attack the
> > > problem at its root! And THAT is the Israeli introduction of nuclear
> > > weapons into the region in the first place.
>
> On May 5, 9:34 pm, "Count 1" <omnipitus2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Uhhh....
> > Who put Iran in the Middle East?
On May 7, 12:27 pm, "iconocl...@yahoo.com" <coaster132...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> The Nuclear Free Zone will include Iran. Israel is not in the Middle
> East anyway, She's in the Near East. You sound like a grade school
> pedant.
And H sounds like the flaming arsehole he is. What is this, the
seventh or eighth reply he's made to this one post? H even separated
into a new thread.
> > I guess we can add 'geography' to the list of subjects you possess no
> > knowledge of.
Among other matters H has no knowledge of, and no desire to rectify
his ignorance.
> Yes, a grade school pedant.
Yes, an ignorant arsehole.
"Middle East
Function: geographical name
the countries of SW Asia & N Africa —usually considered to include the
countries extending from Libya on the W to Afghanistan on the E"
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/middle%20east
"Middle East: Algeria, Bahrain, Cyprus, Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Israel,
Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Libya, Oman, Palestine, Qatar, Saudi Arabia,
Syria, Turkey, United Arab Emirates, Yemen."
http://lib.ucr.edu/depts/acquisitions/YBP%20NSP%20GLOSSARY%20EXTERNAL%20revised6-02.php
"Middle East, Mideast, Near East (the area around the eastern
Mediterranean; from Turkey to northern Africa and eastward to Iran;
the site of such ancient civilizations as Phoenicia and Babylon and
Egypt and the birthplace of Judaism and Christianity and Islam; had
continuous economic and political turmoil in the 20th century) "the
Middle East is the cradle of Western civilization""
wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
>There is going to be a nuclear free
> Zone. Don't presume that Israel will decide to keep her nuclear
> weapons. There will be much too heavy a price for that. It will be too
> dangerous. It will turn out not to be in her interest.
Yes, an ignorant flaming arsehole.
[snip Watsonian assholeries]
Deborah
dsharavi
<coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On May 7, 5:59 pm, "Count 1" <omnipitus2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > I still don't understand how this is Israel reaping what it's sown.
>
> > Neither do I. But who can fathom the mentality of the sonei Yisrael?
> > ***
>
> > What 'mentality'?
>
> Communicating in Hebrew are you, El Senor Anglo Saxon? Or is that
> Yiddish?
If you can't tell the difference, pendejo, you have no business
posting to soc.culture.jewish and soc.culture.israel.
> > >All wars
> > > Israel has been involved in were started by someone else,
> False.
Fact: All wars Israel has been involved in were started by someone
else.
> > all have been
> > > defensive.
> False. Most importantly the 1967 War.
Fact: All wars Israel has been involved in were started by someone
else, especially the Six Day War.
> How is it that this Anglo Saxon speaks Hasbara in addition to Hebrew.
How is it this Irish squatter is ever so much stupider than his bog-
trotting ancestors?
> The invasion of Poland in 1939 created facts on the ground just like
> Netanyahu's beloved settlement program. It was perpetrated by anti-
> Semites. Did those facts on the ground "trump" their own delusions?
> Wouldn't it be better if we all just followed the law? How on earth
> did you conclude that crime should pay?
Stupider and stupider.
Deborah
NEMO
attitude adjustment as Adolf Eichman - hanging from a rope until he's
dead & his ashes scattered over a dung heap
..............................it sure worked for Eichman!
dsharavi
>
> Neither do I. But who can fathom the mentality of the sonei Yisrael?
> ***
On May 7, 3:59 pm, "Count 1" <omnipitus2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> What 'mentality'?
True.
> >All wars
> > Israel has been involved in were started by someone else, all have been
> > defensive. Additionally this article speaks about Syria wanting a peace
> > deal
> > with Israel. Is that 'reaping what they've sown' as well? They already
> > forged peace with Jordan and Israel.
>
> Who, the Syrians?
> ***
>
> Sorry - meant to write 'Jordan and Egypt'.
That makes more senses.
> > It's an interesting article as it highlights the complexity of threats
> > Israel faces. From internal kidnappings with transfering hosages to Hamas
> > to
> > Iran enabling proxy armies in total violation of international law, UNSC
> > Resolutions, and common sense. The article even states that increased
> > Israeli deterrence is making positive gains with relative calm for an
> > extended period. 'Reaping what they sow'? If so, lets hope Israel keeps
> > sowing it.
>
> There are comprehensive arguments as to how the so-called
> "settlements" have actually been a spur to peace negotiations. It
> would seem likely.
> ****
>
> Of course it would. "Facts on the ground" trumps "delusions of anti-semites"
> anyday.
Of course, except to the antisemitic crowd. But who can fathom their,
er, um, what passes for their mentality?
Deborah
dsharavi
It was bullshit. Like the majority of your posts.
Deborah
The Revd
B'rian B'ris, you need the same attitude adjustment as Adolf
Eichmann's alleged victims, eh!
NEMO
need the same attitude adjustment as Adolf
Eichmann's alleged victims, eh! "
...........................it'd take a lot more than you, mook!
The Revd
His alleged victims went willingly and so would you, jewboi B'rian
B'ris, eh!
The Peeler
You'd willingly go down before anyone, The Retard! It's just that no one
seems to be ready to do a fat perverted slob like you! <BG>
--
The Retard about himself:
"And you just wish someone, anyone, anything would cornhole you!"
dsha...@yahoo.com
It took a lot of effort, though, and H is nowhere near important
enough to warrant the same.
Nice thought, though.
Deborah
NEMO
victims went willingly and so would you, jewboi B'rian B'ris, eh!"
...............................nah, us Canadians don't run, members of
my old regiment The Black Watch Highland Reg't. of Canada showed the
squarehead Krauts on the Walchern in Holland, we killed them by the
hundreds & they ran or surrendered to stop from being killed
.................................& the Jews/Israelis are the same -
now!
The Revd
<brianlam...@excite.com> wrote:
>.............................arsehole The Revd �- " His alleged
>victims went willingly and so would you, jewboi B'rian B'ris, eh!"
>
>...............................nah, us Canadians don't run, members of
>my old regiment The Black Watch Highland Reg't. of Canada showed the
>squarehead Krauts on the Walchern in Holland, we killed them by the
>hundreds & they ran or surrendered to stop from being killed
There was no jew regiment in the Canadian forces, B'rian B'ris, eh!
>.................................& the Jews/Israelis are the same -
>now!
LOL. The jews and the latter day Izzies are the same as they've
always been....perpetual victims, eh!
NEMO
service record?
.....................it's simple to answer
NEMO
were Jews enlisted in my old regiment The Black Watch Highland Reg't.
of Canada in W.W.1 & W.W.2, when the regiment was stationed in
Montreal, Quebec - there's been a large Jewish population in Quebec
for over 300 years.
......................I was in the reg't. when it was stationed in
Gagetown, New Brunswick.
......................but you're such a pathetic ignorant old man, who
cares what you think or write
..........................but you're still my bitch-slapped two dollar
ho'!
Yup!
NEMO
feeling that you were one of the "America First" crowd - Charles
Lindbergh & old Joe Kennedy - in that case you're a traitor to your
country , the United States of America & still a pariah
...........................you probably hang on to every word of Rush
Limbaugh & Newt Gingrich & voted Lyndon Larouche
.........................yeah, another of the "America First" crowd &
another Quisling traitor to his country!
Yup!
coaste...@yahoo.com
I've just posted Dr. Mearsheimer's predictions of Israel's future. He
describes you as "one of the new Afrikaners.
coaste...@yahoo.com
I don't think Israel has much of a future, Deb. Neither does the CIA.
Read Mearsheimer's speech transcript I've just posted.
coaste...@yahoo.com
I'd be hard pressed to come up with much. Don't forget the Mearsheimer
speech. I just posted it.
coaste...@yahoo.com
Maybe a decade for Israel. Netanyahu is going to blow it. Read the
Mearsheimer lecture.
coaste...@yahoo.com
>
> "Middle East, Mideast, Near East (the area around the eastern
> Mediterranean; from Turkey to northern Africa and eastward to Iran;
> the site of such ancient civilizations as Phoenicia and Babylon and
> Egypt and the birthplace of Judaism and Christianity and Islam; had
> continuous economic and political turmoil in the 20th century) "the
> Middle East is the cradle of Western civilization""
> wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
>
> >There is going to be a nuclear free
> > Zone. Don't presume that Israel will decide to keep her nuclear
> > weapons. There will be much too heavy a price for that. It will be too
> > dangerous. It will turn out not to be in her interest.
>
> Yes, an ignorant flaming arsehole.
>
> [snip Watsonian assholeries]
>
> Deborah
There are really only two choices. Two states or an Apartheid Israel
which will be the death of the Jewish State. Read the Mearscheimer
lecture.
coaste...@yahoo.com
> On May 8, 11ll :14 am, "iconocl...@yahoo.com"
>
> > Netanyahu's beloved settlement program. It was perpetrated by anti-
> > Semites. Did those facts on the ground "trump" their own delusions?
> > Wouldn't it be better if we all just followed the law? How on earth
> > did you conclude that crime should pay?
>
> Stupider and stupider.
You've been reduced to pure, unadulterated filth. And Israel is on its
way to ruin. It's best option given the nature of its present
government is an abandonment of the Jewish State and life in a
democracy run by a Palestinian majority. Read the Mearsheimer speech..
>
> Deborah
coaste...@yahoo.com
>
> <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On May 7, 5:59 pm, "Count 1" <omnipitus2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > I still don't understand how this is Israel reaping what it's sown.
>
> > > Neither do I. But who can fathom the mentality of the sonei Yisrael?
> > > ***
>
> > > What 'mentality'?
>
> > Communicating in Hebrew are you, El Senor Anglo Saxon? Or is that
> > Yiddish?
>
> If you can't tell the difference, pendejo, you have no business
> posting to soc.culture.jewish and soc.culture.israel.
Sorry. No Jewish society and culture here any more. Not for the
duration anyway. They are peacetime luxuries. Israel is in an
existential crisis. SCJ and SCI have been requisitioned as platforms
for the struggle to save her. We goyim appear to be the only ones who
might be able to accomplish it. The substantive discourse is
exclusively politics as it relates to Israel and the Lobby. Such
decisions have to be made in times of crisis. There's no room for
twaddle about religion and culture. For that you can always resort to
the moderated group. You're an irrelevant cipher these days. But take
heart. You've been given a proud new designation in the process of the
collapse of the Jewish State. You're a bitter-ending "Afrikaner" as
opposed the the category of "righteous Jew". I'm sorry you didn't fit
in the other slot, but I'm sure you prefer the one you got in your
secret heart of hearts. You'll be able to enjoy it for maybe ten
years. I'm sure you'll get off on strutting around in those leathers,
boots and the riding crop as your country descends inexorably. That's
about all the Jewish State has left. Fifteen at the maximum. It's
pretty much in accord with the CIA estimate. Read the Mearscheimer
transcript I posted earlier today.
coaste...@yahoo.com
But you had to hide from it like you do the majority of my posts.
coaste...@yahoo.com
Israel needs my help, Deb. Without people like me and John
Mearsheimer, she has little chance to survive as a Jewish State.
Apartheid will soon turn into a democracy of all of Palestine's
people. And Jews will be a minority. It will be the end of Israel, of
the whole idea. Read Mearsheimer.
The Revd
We've already heard about your imaginary service record, B'rian B'ris,
eh. You jew bastards lie instinctively, eh. You won't even admit
you're a jew, eh!
The Revd
Gagetown, NB...where all the WWI and WWII action was, eh! LOL
More of your jew lies, B'rian B'ris, eh. You ain't fooling anyone but
yourself, eh!
The Revd
By the way, B'rian B'ris Cuntnose, if you lived here, you'd have
probably voted for the Marxist nigra, Barook Hussein Osama, eh!
drahcir
wrote:
Gosh, I'm sure that's gonna keep her up at night.
The Peeler
Sly dodge noted, you sick subnormal housebound sexual cripple!
--
Retarded, subnormal and extremely proud of it: our resident psychopath, The
Retard!
The Peeler
Now you are projecting that EVERYONE is a notorious liar like you are, The
Retard, you miserable degenerate psycho! You ain't fooling anyone, not even
yourself! You know that you are a notoriously lying degenerate swine! <BG>
The Peeler
Is a convicted supervised sexual offender like you allowed to vote at all in
the UK, The Retard? Clue us in! <BG>
A Moose In Love
> On Mon, 10 May 2010 17:07:21 -0700 (PDT), NEMO
>
> >...........................so, arsehole The Revd, lets hear about your
> >service record?
>
> >.....................it's simple to answer
>
> We've already heard about your imaginary service record, B'rian B'ris,
> eh. You jew bastards lie instinctively, eh. You won't even admit
> you're a jew, eh!
he talks about his 'old regiment' as though he were in some kind of
action. he was probably a supply clerk pimping out underage newfie
chicks in his spare time.
coaste...@yahoo.com
This one is an excellent stimulant for you, Ratner:
coaste...@yahoo.com
> On May 8, 12:37 pm, "iconocl...@yahoo.com" <coaster132...@yahoo.com>
> > > >>>> Plainolamerican said:
> > > >>>>>> their war - their problem
> > > >>>>> So, it's not our problem if Israel decides to nuke a few ragheads,
> > > >>>>> right?
> > > >>>>> Deborah
> > > >>> On May 5, 12:13 pm, "iconocl...@yahoo.com" <coaster132...@yahoo.com>
> > > >>> wrote:
> > > >>>> Israel's nukes are going to be dismantled and destroyed.
> > > > wrote:
> > > >> Israel is not going to disarm Iran by bombing her. Israel simply can't
> > > >> have a nuclear monopoly in the Middle East much less over the entire
> > > >> Muslim World.
>
> > > > divested of all her nukes, so that the world can be made free for
> > > > Hunter and his ilk to share in a little Muslim bacha bazi. And one can
> > > > guess that bacha bazi is why Hunter's suddenly so lovey-dovey toward
> > > > the Muslim Arab world.
>
> > > > Deborah
>
> > > There is nothing more scary then a bunch or nuclear armed Jews anywhere
> > > in this world. I strongly suggest Nuclear preemptive surgical strike
> > > that takes out all of Israel, while a round up of supporting Jews in all
> > > countries takes place. What to do with surviving Jews is a big question.
> > > Without a doubt that like in all of time. they will be a problem in the
> > > future.
>
> > Let me say here only that Israel is a great threat to world peace,
> > perhaps the greatest.
>
> And raghead states, of course, are not--in Hunter Watson's alternate
> universe, anyway.
>
> Deborah
They are NOT.a threat to world peace. They are NOT expansionist. They
are in defensive mode. They DO NOT have nuclear weapons. The
possibility that Iran might become a nuclear armed state is directly
related to the Israeli nuclear threat. And what they do in the
Resistance against Israel is patriotic: Read this article by Professor
Pape of the University of Chicago.
dsharavi
>>>.............................Deborah, Iconoclast needs the same
>>>attitude adjustment as Adolf Eichman - hanging from a rope until he's
>>>dead & his ashes scattered over a dung heap
>>>..............................it sure worked for Eichman!
>
>On May 10, 5:23 pm, "dshar...@gmail.com" <dshar...@yahoo.com>wrote:
>>It took a lot of effort, though, and H is nowhere near important
>>enough to warrant the same.
>>Nice thought, though.
>>Deborah
On May 11, 2:12 am, "iconocl...@yahoo.com"
<coaster132...@yahoo.com>wrote:
>Israel needs my help, Deb. Without people like me and John
>Mearsheimer, she has little chance to survive as a Jewish State.
ROTFLMAO!!! This reminds me of Malak in Conan the Destroyer: "They
need me!"
Israel needs your and Maltsheimer's "help" like Conan and Zula and
Bombata needed Malak.
>Read Mearsheimer.
I believe I've told you quite a few times that I've already read
Mearsheimer. And had a few laughs, too, thank you very much. Take your
Alzheimer's meds, if you've got 'em. If you don't, get some.
Deborah
dsharavi
>>>>>>>>their war - their problem
>>>>>>>So, it's not our problem if Israel decides to nuke a few ragheads,
>>>>>>>right?
>>>>>>Israel's nukes are going to be dismantled and destroyed.
>>>>>A big day in comedy? Not really, however comedic the thought may be.
>>>>>>This makes my day.
>>>>>Really? Weren't you just getting off on fantasising about
>>>>>Funkenstein's erections forty years from now?
>>>>>Deborah
>>>>>***
>
>>>>>LOL.
>
>>>>Awww. You don't share my optimism.
>>>>***
>
>>>>That and your sense of humour. C'mon Hunter, surely even you can find what
>>>>Deb said funny.
>
>>>>***
>>>>But you can still tell us whether a
>>>>nuclear free Middle East would be in the national interests of Canada.
>>>>***
>
>>>>It's not even remotely relevant to Canadian national interests.
>
>>>"iconocl...@yahoo.com" <coaster132...@yahoo.com>wrote
>>>>***
>>>>That's a no brainer. And if you get it wrong you're still Richard
>>>>Ratner.
>>>>***
>
>>>>Sure I am benjie. And Altopia is my ISP.. <wink wink>.
>>>You got it wrong, Ratner.
>>>**
>>On May 7, 3:55 pm, "Count 1" <omnipitus2...@yahoo.com>wrote:
>>>No, you did benjie. On just about everything you've ever stated.
>
>On May 10, 2:00 pm, dsharavi <dshara...@hotmail.com>wrote:
>>Ain't dat de trufe.
>>But wait! Shouldn't all of H's errors be attributed to Pappe and
>>Pappe's Ilk? You know H never read much of anything else, and even
>>that was in easy condensed form.
>>Deborah
>
On May 11, 12:59 am, "iconocl...@yahoo.com"
<coaster132...@yahoo.com>wrote:
>I've just posted Dr. Mearsheimer's predictions of Israel's future.
Not even a snappy comeback, but wow, you're really getting off on this
thread, aren't you?
>He
>describes you as "one of the new Afrikaners.
I'm flattered Dr Beersheimer even thinks of me, even though he got it
wrong, of course, but then, he gets most of his stuff wrong, just like
you. But, as the saying goes, there's no such thing as bad publicity,
even from a self-absorbed propaganda drone like Beersheimer.
Deborah
dsharavi
>>>>>>>>>>their war - their problem
>>>>>>>>>So, it's not our problem if Israel decides to nuke a few ragheads,
>>>>>>>>>right?
>>>>>>>>>Deborah
>>>>>>>On May 5, 12:13 pm, "iconocl...@yahoo.com" <coaster132...@yahoo.com>
>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>>Israel's nukes are going to be dismantled and destroyed.
>>>>>>On May 5, 6:37 pm, dsharavi <dshara...@hotmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>A big day in comedy? Not really, however comedic the thought may be.
>>>>>On May 7, 12:07 pm, "iconocl...@yahoo.com" <coaster132...@yahoo.com>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>Israel is not going to disarm Iran by bombing her. Israel simply can't
>>>>>>have a nuclear monopoly in the Middle East much less over the entire
>>>>>>Muslim World.
>
>>>>>Therefore, according to the Communist stooge, Israel must be forcibly
>>>>>divested of all her nukes, so that the world can be made free for
>>>>>Hunter and his ilk to share in a little Muslim bacha bazi. And one can
>>>>>guess that bacha bazi is why Hunter's suddenly so lovey-dovey toward
>>>>>the Muslim Arab world.
>>>>>Deborah
>>>On May 7, 9:41 pm, Alexander's Raghead Bund <Alexan...@thegreat.org>wrote:
>>>>There is nothing more scary then a bunch or nuclear armed Jews anywhere
>>>>in this world. I strongly suggest Nuclear preemptive surgical strike
>>>>that takes out all of Israel, while a round up of supporting Jews in all
>>>>countries takes place. What to do with surviving Jews is a big question.
>>>>Without a doubt that like in all of time. they will be a problem in the
>>>>future.
>
>>On May 8, 12:37 pm, "iconocl...@yahoo.com" <coaster132...@yahoo.com>
>>wrote:
>>>Let me say here only that Israel is a great threat to world peace,
>>>perhaps the greatest.
>
>On May 10, 2:01 pm, dsharavi <dshara...@hotmail.com>wrote:
>>And raghead states, of course, are not--in Hunter Watson's alternate
>>universe, anyway.
>>Deborah
>
On May 11, 1:02 am, "iconocl...@yahoo.com"
<coaster132...@yahoo.com>wrote:
>I don't think Israel has much of a future, Deb. Neither does the CIA.
Another snappy comeback to this thread -- did I say you were really
getting off on it? I meant to say you're really REALLY getting off on
it.
As to your "thinking" Israel hasn't much of a future, well, you also
"think" Israel hasn't much of a future without your and Beersheimer's
help, as you posted:
"Israel needs my help, Deb. Without people like me and John
"Mearsheimer, she has little chance to survive as a Jewish State."
Hunter Watson, May 11, 2:12 am
>Read Mearsheimer's speech transcript I've just posted.
As Ive told you before, I've already read Beersheimer. As I've already
told you before, as well, you need to start taking your Alzheimer's
meds, if you've got them, or get some, if you don't. While you're at
it, you should see about getting some anti=psychotic meds, too.
"Israel won't survive without my help and Meirsheimer's" -- indeed.
Deborah
dsharavi
>>>>>>>>>their war - their problem
>
>>>>>>>>So, it's not our problem if Israel decides to nuke a few ragheads,
>>>>>>>>right?
>>>>>>>>Deborah
>
>>>>>>On May 5, 12:13 pm, "iconocl...@yahoo.com" <coaster132...@yahoo.com>
>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>Israel's nukes are going to be dismantled and destroyed.
>
>>>>>On May 5, 6:37 pm, dsharavi <dshara...@hotmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>A big day in comedy? Not really, however comedic the thought may be.
>
>>>>On May 7, 12:07 pm, "iconocl...@yahoo.com" <coaster132...@yahoo.com>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>>Israel is not going to disarm Iran by bombing her. Israel simply can't
>>>>>have a nuclear monopoly in the Middle East much less over the entire
>>>>>Muslim World.
>
>>>On May 7, 6:11 pm, dsharavi <dshara...@hotmail.com>wrote:
>>>>Therefore, according to the Communist stooge,
>>On May 8, 12:35 pm, "iconocl...@yahoo.com" <coaster132...@yahoo.com>
>>wrote:
>>>Readers, Deborah knows full well that I am a vigorous, life-long anti-
>>>totalitarian.
>
>On May 10, 2:03 pm, dsharavi <dshara...@hotmail.com>wrote:
>>What I KNOW is that you're a gutless coward and a lying sack of
>>terrorist-supporting shi'ite, who never read a damned thing on the
>>subjects you attempt to address -- and lied about it all -- with the
>>exception of the propaganda spewed by an avowed Communist.
>>Don't tell me what I know, you gutless motherfucker.
>>Deborah
>
On May 11, 1:04 am, "iconocl...@yahoo.com"
<coaster132...@yahoo.com>wrote:
>I'd be hard pressed to come up with much.
Correctomundo, alter kacker. You're hard pressed to come up with
anything. Even the weird way you're getting off on this thread isn't
much. Are you having another senior moment?
Deborah
Ooops, did I say in the above post that H was having another senior
moment? Apparently he's having quite a few of them -- and all over
this ONE post!
And here's another:
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.jewish/msg/6e60c9c1c082651d
>>>On May 8, 1:21 pm, NEMO <brianlambsbig...@excite.com>wrote:
>>>>.............................Deborah, Iconoclast's brain has turned to
>>>>sauerkraut & he's turned into a sour Kraut!
>>>>Yup!
>
>>On May 8, 12:45 pm, "iconocl...@yahoo.com" <coaster132...@yahoo.com>
>>wrote:
>>>What is it about Germans per se I should be hostile to?
>
>On May 10, 2:06 pm, dsharavi <dshara...@hotmail.com>wrote:
>>>Nothing at all. H parrots Eichmann's views quite accurately from time
>>to time.
>>Deborah
>
On May 11, 1:06 am, "iconocl...@yahoo.com"
<coaster132...@yahoo.com>wrote:
>Maybe a decade for Israel. Netanyahu is going to blow it. Read the
>Mearsheimer lecture.
H parrots Eichmann's views quite accurately from time to time. When
he's not, he sounds like Goering, or Himmler, or whoever it was who
advised the repetitious repetition of bullshit, like "Read
Meirsheimer... Read Meirsheimer.... Read Meirsheimer.... Read
Meirsheimer....." Hunter wanna Meirsheimer....bbbbbwwwwwaaaakkkkkk!"
Deborah
dsharavi
>>Yes, an ignorant arsehole.
>
>There are really only two choices. Two states or an Apartheid Israel
>which will be the death of the Jewish State. Read the Mearscheimer
>lecture.
Read MearSCHeimer....that's rich. When H can't figure out how to
respond to another exposure of his many errors, he falls back on the
usual. As it is, and as I advised our resident Alzheimer's patient a
number of times.....I already read MearSCHemier. Probably before H
did, if he ever really did.
Deborah
dsharavi
>>>The invasion of Poland in 1939 created facts on the ground just like
>>>Netanyahu's beloved settlement program. It was perpetrated by anti-
>>>Semites. Did those facts on the ground "trump" their own delusions?
>>>Wouldn't it be better if we all just followed the law? How on earth
>>>did you conclude that crime should pay?
>
>On May 10, 2:17 pm, dsharavi <dshara...@hotmail.com>wrote:
>>Stupider and stupider.
>You've been reduced to pure, unadulterated filth.
Poor Hunter, we all know how you respond when you've been caught in
more of your errors. You snip, and you call facts "filth" among other
offbeat descriptions.
What you snipped:
On May 8, 11ll :14 am, "iconocl...@yahoo.com"
<coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On May 7, 5:59 pm, "Count 1" <omnipitus2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > I still don't understand how this is Israel reaping what it's sown.
> > Neither do I. But who can fathom the mentality of the sonei Yisrael?
> > ***
> > What 'mentality'?
> Communicating in Hebrew are you, El Senor Anglo Saxon? Or is that
> Yiddish?
If you can't tell the difference, pendejo, you have no business
posting to soc.culture.jewish and soc.culture.israel.
> > >All wars
> > > Israel has been involved in were started by someone else,
> False.
Fact: All wars Israel has been involved in were started by someone
else.
> > all have been
> > > defensive.
> False. Most importantly the 1967 War.
Fact: All wars Israel has been involved in were started by someone
else, especially the Six Day War.
> How is it that this Anglo Saxon speaks Hasbara in addition to Hebrew.
How is it this Irish squatter is ever so much stupider than his bog-
trotting ancestors?
> The invasion of Poland in 1939 created facts on the ground just like
> Netanyahu's beloved settlement program. It was perpetrated by anti-
> Semites. Did those facts on the ground "trump" their own delusions?
> Wouldn't it be better if we all just followed the law? How on earth
> did you conclude that crime should pay?
Stupider and stupider.
Deborah
>And Israel is on its way to ruin.
And according to Hunter Watson, only he can save Israel--with the help
of sensationalist academe MeirSCHeimer.
>It's best option given the nature of its present
>government is an abandonment of the Jewish State and life in a
>democracy run by a Palestinian majority. Read the Mearsheimer speech..
Look! Up in the sky! It's a bird! It's a turd! It's........Watson-
MeirSCHeimer!
*splat*
Deborah
dsharavi
>>>>>I still don't understand how this is Israel reaping what it's sown.
>
>>>dsharavi wrote:
>>>>Neither do I. But who can fathom the mentality of the sonei Yisrael?
>>>>***
>
>>>Count1 wrote:
>>>>What 'mentality'?
>
>
>>On May 8, 11ll :14 am, "iconocl...@yahoo.com"
>><coaster132...@yahoo.com>wrote:
>>>Communicating in Hebrew are you, El Senor Anglo Saxon? Or is that
>>>Yiddish?
>
>
>On May 10, 2:17 pm, dsharavi <dshara...@hotmail.com>wrote:
>>If you can't tell the difference, pendejo, you have no business
>>posting to soc.culture.jewish and soc.culture.israel.
>
On May 11, 2:03 am, "iconocl...@yahoo.com"
<coaster132...@yahoo.com>wrote:
>Sorry. No Jewish society and culture here any more. Not for the
>duration anyway. They are peacetime luxuries. Israel is in an
>existential crisis. SCJ and SCI have been requisitioned as platforms
>for the struggle to save her. We goyim appear to be the only ones who
>might be able to accomplish it. The substantive discourse is
>exclusively politics as it relates to Israel and the Lobby. Such
>decisions have to be made in times of crisis. There's no room for
>twaddle about religion and culture. For that you can always resort to
>the moderated group. You're an irrelevant cipher these days. But take
>heart. You've been given a proud new designation in the process of the
>collapse of the Jewish State. You're a bitter-ending "Afrikaner" as
>opposed the the category of "righteous Jew". I'm sorry you didn't fit
>in the other slot, but I'm sure you prefer the one you got in your
>secret heart of hearts. You'll be able to enjoy it for maybe ten
>years. I'm sure you'll get off on strutting around in those leathers,
>boots and the riding crop as your country descends inexorably. That's
>about all the Jewish State has left. Fifteen at the maximum. It's
>pretty much in accord with the CIA estimate.
Ye gods and little fishes, Hunter Watson has finally flipped his
cookies.
>Read the Mearscheimer transcript I posted earlier today.
He's still running true to form, though. "Read Pappe, read
MearSCHeimer, read my posts, " kish mir in tukhis.
Here's some good advice, Hunter: Fisk Pappe, fisk MearSCHeimer, and
get yourself a fisking life before you croak.
Deborah
dsharavi
>>>>>>right?
>>>>>>Deborah
>
>
>>>>point?
>>>>Deborah
>
>>>good, revealing and correct question
>
>On May 10, 2:20 pm, dsharavi <dshara...@hotmail.com>wrote:
>>It was bullshit. Like the majority of your posts.
>>Deborah
>
On May 11, 2:06 am, "iconocl...@yahoo.com"
<coaster132...@yahoo.com>wrote:
>But you had to hide from it like you do the majority of my posts.
I don't "hide" from the majority of your posts, silly old man. I don't
read them. This is because the majority are bullshit.
Consider the following, which is your fifteenth or sixteenth response
to this ONE post:
>>>>>>>>Plainolamerican said:
>>>>>>>>>>their war - their problem
>>>>>>>>>So, it's not our problem if Israel decides to nuke a few ragheads,
>>>>>>>>>right?
>>>>>>>>>Deborah
>>>>>>>On May 5, 12:13 pm, "iconocl...@yahoo.com" <coaster132...@yahoo.com>
>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>>Israel's nukes are going to be dismantled and destroyed.
>>>>>>On May 5, 6:37 pm, dsharavi <dshara...@hotmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>A big day in comedy? Not really, however comedic the thought may be.
>>>>>On May 7, 12:07 pm, "iconocl...@yahoo.com" <coaster132...@yahoo.com>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>Israel is not going to disarm Iran by bombing her. Israel simply can't
>>>>>>have a nuclear monopoly in the Middle East much less over the entire
>>>>>>Muslim World.
>
>>>>dsharavi wrote:
>>>>>Therefore, according to the Communist stooge, Israel must be forcibly
>>>>>divested of all her nukes, so that the world can be made free for
>>>>>Hunter and his ilk to share in a little Muslim bacha bazi. And one can
>>>>>guess that bacha bazi is why Hunter's suddenly so lovey-dovey toward
>>>>>the Muslim Arab world.
>>>On May 7, 9:41 pm, Alexander <Alexan...@thegreat.org>wrote:
>>>>There is nothing more scary then a bunch or nuclear armed Jews anywhere
>>>>in this world. I strongly suggest Nuclear preemptive surgical strike
>>>>that takes out all of Israel, while a round up of supporting Jews in all
>>>>countries takes place. What to do with surviving Jews is a big question.
>>>>Without a doubt that like in all of time. they will be a problem in the
>>>>future.
>
>>On May 8, 12:37 pm, "iconocl...@yahoo.com" <coaster132...@yahoo.com>
>>wrote:
>>>Let me say here only that Israel is a great threat to world peace,
>>>perhaps the greatest.
>On May 10, 2:01 pm, dsharavi <dshara...@hotmail.com>wrote:
>>And raghead states, of course, are not--in Hunter Watson's alternate
>>universe, anyway.
On May 15, 11:46 am, "iconocl...@yahoo.com"
<coaster132...@yahoo.com>wrote:
>They are NOT.a threat to world peace. They are NOT expansionist. They
>are in defensive mode. They DO NOT have nuclear weapons. The
>possibility that Iran might become a nuclear armed state is directly
>related to the Israeli nuclear threat. And what they do in the
>Resistance against Israel is patriotic:
Of the six assertions above, only one has any basis in fact. Pretty
typical for a Watson post from the Watson alternate reality. Must be
nice in your alternate universe, where one can travel without fear of
Muslim Arab terrorism.
>Read this article by Professor
>Pape of the University of Chicago.
<yawn>Read Pape, read MeirSCHeimer, read HHW's posts, blah blah blah.
This is something like your fifteenth or sixteenth post in response to
my ONE post. Here's the advice I gave you previously, Hunter. Take it
to heart: Fisk Pappe, fisk MeirSCHeimer, and get yourself a fisking