DONT BUY THE EP1 etc - DON'T RESPOND!!! = PLEASE READ
Fred Cherry
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Subject: Re: DONT BUY THE EP1 etc - DON'T RESPOND!!! = PLEASE READ
Date: 3 Jun 1999 18:43:15 GMT
mar...@aol.com (MARY A TS) wrote:
> >Michelle Steiner, a homonazi supporter of NAMBLA, flamed me in the
> >newsgroup ba.motss. So, I found out that she is the alpha poster in the
> >newsgroup alt.support.srs. Now, one of her stooges in that newsgroup
> >wants to silence me. It is just as i have always said. These homonazi
> >supporters of NAMBLA can dish it out, but they can't take it.
> >
> >
> >jo...@world.std.com (Fred Cherry)
> >
> >Grand Duke of Yugoslobia
> >Duke of Vulgaria
> >Grand Muff-Diver of Jerusalem
> >& Elector of Homophobia
> >
> >
> >
> Who are you dear ? Have we met before? Why are you so angery with
> Michelle? Do you have a proublem we all can discuss... We need more info
> about you? I hope you Fred Cherry have a nice day... Please take care of
> yourself... We do not want to see anything bad happend to you... This
> News group is a very scarry place at times... Yopu do not know who is
> really for you or against you.. A word to the wise please use your words
> wisy in here or it can come back on you... I still have not learned that
> lession yet....
>
> PS... It has been nice to see you again.. Take care Fred....You may not
> remember me in person... But I sure do remember you very well... You left
> a lasting sight in this little mind that I have.....
>
> 81 day gal
You say you have a little mind? I disagree with that. One way or another,
you have a much larger mind than Michelle Steiner, who keeps posting her
stupid lies.
I wasn't kicked off of ComPU$erve. I left ComPU$erve. I was kicked off of
Panix.com. Roy Radow, who is one of the members of the "Steering Committee"
of NAMBLA, left Panix.com voluntarily because of poor service from
Panix.com. I was kicked of off Panix.com because I persisted in posting
attacks on NAMBLA. Look at this:
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jo...@panix.com (Fred Cherry) writes:
>Anyway, I'm glad that this happened. I later found out that Netcom is
>where Roy Radow posts from. There isn't room enough on one service for
>both myself and Roy Radow. As a matter of fact, there isn't room enough
>on one PLANET for me and Roy Radow.
Good ol' Roy Radow of Nambla? Never thought I'd miss him when he left.
You never can tell...
/a
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I posted a long message previously in refutation to a Message of Michelle
Steiner. I regret that I did not post in in your newsgroup. Anyway, here it
is. This should tell you my side of this controversy. Pleas notice that
Michelle Steiner has no problem with the epithet: "JEWBOY."
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From: jo...@world.std.com (Fred Cherry)
Subject: Re: DONT BUY THE EP1 SOUNDTRACK!!! -- SAY WHAT, JEWBOY?
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Subject: Re: DONT BUY THE EP1 SOUNDTRACK!!! -- SAY WHAT, JEWBOY?
Michelle Steiner <mich...@michelle.org> wrote:
> In article <7huqvf$e...@news-central.tiac.net>, John <joh...@tiac.net>
> wrote:
>
> > This Jew is obsessed with NAMBLA for two reasons.
>
> No, Cherry Boy; you are obessed with NAMBLA for only one reason. You
> have an irrational hatered of homosexuals, and you try to present all
> homosexuals as pederasts to justify your hatred.
Listen, Nazi girl.
I have a RATIONAL hatred of homosexuals. Homosexuals are mostly evil
people.
When did I ever try to present all homosexuals as pederasts? Seright-Payne
is a homosexual gentleman of rare integrity and courage. He dares to tell
the truth about NAMBLA. Here is what he said:
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From: Eric Seright-Payne <j...@wco.com>
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Subject: Re: Is NAMBLA really all that wacky? was: Homo & Violets...
Date: Sat, 08 Mar 1997 15:24:13 -0800
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Tebster wrote:
>
> NAMBLA was not formed by those who wish to ignore or flaunt
> age-of-consent laws. Those who take that approach (and aren't
> imprisoned) either leave the country or are incredibly secretive.
> NAMBLA's not about escapism or conspiracy; we are changing our culture's
> perceptions and taboos about male intergenerational sexuality through
> open, public forum.
No, you're not. What you're doing through your ranting and raving, your
screaming, and making your desire to rape children publicly known is
painting all gay men with your brush, and giving the Christian
Coalition/Religious Right something to point to to say: "See! That's
what homosexuals want to do! Rape your sons! Seduce your children!"
So we gay men are bearing the brunt of pain and acrimony for a handful
of truly sick individuals who believe an "age of consent" violates their
right to have sex. You ask "Is NAMBLA really that wacky?"
No, it's not. The Three Stooges are wacky. Robin Williams is wacky.
NAMBLA is sick and twisted.
>
> Our call to abolish age-of-consent laws is the radical position here.
> But it is the only way we can draw your attention to the fact that
> everyone, including youth, are already protected by broader rape and
> assault statutes. By enforcing statutes that deny youth the right to
> verbally state, under oath, whether or not any sexual activity (not just
> with adults) was consensual on their part, the statement, "My boyfriend
> and I made love last night" coming from a satisfied 13 year old, in the
> eyes of the law, indicates a " felonious violent sexual offence" has
> been committed. Even tho many states would try that boy as adult were he
> to commit a crime with a similar punishment, he is powerless to stop
> authority from hauling his lover to prison.
Many states would try that boy as an adult? Only if he has a past
record, is a repeat offender, or if the crime is truly heinous... but
for a first offense? Almost no state would insist a minor child be tried
at majority age.
A 13 year old, in the first rushes of adolescence is very likely to
confuse the ability to get a hard on with the emotion of love,
especially if the person with whom they achieved that hard on is an
adult who is telling them "you enjoyed it; it must be love." It's a
manipulative ploy, again pointing directly to the sickness NAMBLA so
embodies. A 13 year old is going to be satisfied by shooting a load, be
it under self manipulation, with another 13 year old, or with an
inflatable love doll. The difference between those scenarios and one
which includes an adult majority male is that adult is manipulating a
child for the adult's own perverse needs.
>
> The concept of using age as the determinant of whether a minor can
> assume responsibility of who may touch him is absurd. Existing laws have
> been in place for decades, yet children are not being adequately
> protected from abuse, assault, and the systematic deprivation of their
> basic individual rights. Our culture's approach to "protecting" and
> nurturing youth is flawed and needs to be overhauled, and NAMBLA's call
> to start with restrictive criminal statues brings focus on the damage
> caused by our cultures poor, shame ridden, approach to youth. A bold
> statement is not necessary wacky when the conditions that proved is are
> absurd.
Let's see... this reads suspiciously as if you're attempting to say:
"laws to protect children from sexual deviants like myself are not going
to work because I'm not going to respect those laws, so may as well do
away with them... then I won't be branded a sicko."
>
> Nor is is wacky to work to empower and integrate youth into our culture
> as individuals rather than a sub-class of "non-contributing consumers",
> or as vassels of family units. We seem to be incapable of raising
> generations of secure, responsible adults. Not surprisingly, Americans
> have no experience with individual freedom or responsibility until they
> turn 18 years old. Perhaps each individual should be allowed to accept
> our covetted freedoms and responsibilities as soon as they feel ready,
> while they're still eager to understand the important relation between
> individual "freedom" and "responsibility". Alternatively, no one can
> honestly state that current restrictions on the individual freedoms of
> youth, including sexually restrictive age-of-consent laws, are at all
> working to produce generations of responsible adults. It ain't so.
Oh, what a crock... since most children aren't going to grow up to be a
"secure, responsible" adult, might as well allow an adult to take
advantage of them sexually?
>
> In Japan, the age-of-consent is 12 years old, with a few
> "non-exploitation" restrictions. In 1991, Holland legislated that
> intergenrational relations with a younger partner of 12 may not be
> prosecuted unless family members object and other non-exploitation
> (non-comercial, abuse of authority, etc.) restrictions. In 1995, Spain
> lowered its age-of-consent to 12 with similar non-exploitation
> restrictions. Pragmaticly, if such legislation had been enacted prior to
> 1978 in Boston Mass, NAMBLA's charter members would surely not been
> goaded into organizing. But thought of America following the lead of
> these far more civilized cultures rather than lobbying with them to
> "Americanize" their statutes is truly "Wacky". It is against such
> reactionary back-assward tyranny that NAMBLA carries the torch.
Uh huh. Sure. That's why NAMBLA was meeting, under an assumed name, in
the old San Francisco Library meeting room directly adjacent to the
children's reading room. Oh, conveniently, there was a boys rest room
separating the two areas. "Just want to protect children"??? It's you
from whom children need to be protected!
>
> If this line of reasoning scares you, personalize it. Ask your children
> how much "protection" from their own decisions they want. Do you expect
> your children to ask you for permission to have sex with someone else
> when they feel they're ready? They take their freedom eventually.
> Perhaps they shouldn't have to.
Children want "protection" from their own decisions daily! A child makes
a decision not to do their homework, yet don't want to come home from
school with that "C", "D" or "F" on their report card.
The want to make extra money from a newspaper route, but don't want to
be out there in the rain - the want Mom and Dad to drive them.
They want to play baseball in the street, but don't think they should be
forced to fix the car they scratched or the window they broke.
Children see the world as one big place to play, the neither want - nor
is it expected of them - to shoulder the responsibilites of day to day
life in that world, outside of being a kid. Responsibilites are slowly
added to their lives, so at some point, hopefully, between their 17th
and 22nd years, they're ready to confront daily life and live life on
life's terms.
A 13 year old child, to go back to your original analogy, is no more
ready to accept the responsibilities of sex with an adult - and all the
health consequences that go with it, than a caveman is to set foot on
the moon.
You, sir, are two things: sick, and obviously NOT a parent - but someone
who sees children as his own personal playthings.
I hope you get caught, get sent to the nastiest prison they can find,
and you have a big, black cellie named Bubba who wants to call you
"Baby"
Eric Seright-Payne
Livermore, CA
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> > One reason is that NAMBLA is an organization that hates Jews.
>
> that's a lie, and you know it.
So, I've hit a sensitive spot, have I? You object to my criticism of
NAMBLA, do you? Please explain why you are so upset by my criticism of
NAMBLA.
Anyway, it IS the truth. Every time I post the following information, all
you homonazi NAMBLA supporters go ape.
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The members of NAMBLA have all sorts of mind games and tricks that they use
to seduce young boys into homosexual activity. Here is some information
about NAMBLA.
There was an article in THE JERSEY JOURNAL (Newsstand Edition), dated
6/11/82, pages 1 and 29, describing their modus operandi. The story says
that members of NAMBLA went to local fast food stores and "cased" the
stores for potential victims. It goes on to say that: "None of the victims,
it was stressed by authorities, had any previous homosexual experience."
The article then goes on to say that the victims were boys ranging in age
from eight to fourteen and that they were all poor white boys with no
father in the home. Then the NAMBLA members went to the boys' homes and
convinced the boys' mothers that the NAMBLA members were a "big brother"
charitable organization and wanted to serve as surrogate fathers. They
first took the boys on fishing and camping trips and to movies. THEN after
softening up the boys in this manner, they brainwashed the boys into
engaging in homosexual activity.
In addition, NAMBLA is an organization which has a pathological hatred of
women. I say this on the basis of one of the items of literature that they
used to recommend. They used to hand out literature at the anual New York
City "Gay Pride" parade which included the book: THE ASBESTOS DIARY, as one
of the books on their recommended reading list. I will quote from a review
of this book which appeared in the homosexual magazine TANGENTS, dated
5/66:
Consider, for example, the kind deed done to humanity by
the author ("Duke" to his friends) in the matter of the old
whore. After one of his old *inamorati* has been sent to the
hospital with "the two worse of the seven sociable diseases,
plus stricture and involvement of the prostate and bladder--
and potent penicillin which killed Mark....," Duke goes to
the boy's funeral and later, after having purchased two
small household items at Polter & Geist's Department Store,
visits the old whatever: "...I threw a sawbuck in her lap
saying it was hers in any case but to tell me the truth: Is
she free from disease? 'I'm clean as your mother, dearie!'
she lisped, sealing her doom, and soiling my gloved fist on
*impasto* complexion I clipped her on the jaw, lowered her
unconscious form to the bed and ripped off her clothes. Then
I unwrapped my purchases: a pound of powdered Plaster of
Paris and a pastry tube...mixed powder with water to smooth
batter, poured it into pastry-tube the nozzle of which I
shoved up that malodorous maladied twat where at least one
young explorer had been wrecked on his maiden-voyage -- and
squeezed!
*Avant-garde* frictional fiction has ever rung with praise
for the whore with the heart of gold. Now I give you
something new: the whore with the plaster vagina!" If that
act is not of "redeeming" importance, I'd like to see one
that is.
............................
All in all, a highly entertaining book.
--Gary Taylor
In addition, NAMBLA is an organization which hates Jews. That information
comes from PENTHOUSE Magazine. In the January '85 issue of PENTHOUSE
Magazine, there is an article about child-molesters. In that article, there
is a quote from a NAMBLA publication as follows:
That the New York Press (even the left wing Guardian!) still
swallow Judi as a legit source proves their gullibility--and
their complicity in the ongoing witch-hunt. Judi's abuses have
time and time again been publicly documented. Yet, like the
proverbial bad penny, she keeps turning up. And like any other
brazen loud Jewish kvetch, she won't close that motor-mouth
filled with lies. Every time that fat trap opens, she
jeopardizes public safety.
Now, please don't misunderstand. As a Jew, I'm not complaining over the
fact that NAMBLA hates us, I'm bragging about it. We Jews must be doing
something right, in order for a bunch of creeps like that to hate us!
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> > Most of us Jews are obsessed with anti-semitism.
>
> And a very few, like you, pull the "anti-semitism" card to justify your
> own ends, without regard to truth. The rest of us are more rational
> about it.
Well, here is an example of homonazism. Why were you so silent about it?
After all, you always flame me every time *I* post anything.
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Subject: Re: Where does which Bible condem Homosexuality?
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>The only parts of the Bible I accept are the Books of the Maccabees. This
>is NOT in the Kink James version of the Bible, but it is in the Douay
>(Roman Catholic) version of the Bible. These books describe how my Glorious
>Ancestors, the Maccabees fought and won a war against homosexual
>oppression. This material may also be found in "The Oxford Annotated Bible
>with the Apocrypha, Revised Standard Version", New York, Oxford University
>Press, 1965.
Pagans were quite tolerant of other religions. Those not acceptable
were usually ones having political overtones deemed dangerous to the
state.
Judaism brought INTOLERANCE into Western Civilization.
What goes around, comes around.
There is a straight and narrow road running from Leviticus to
Auschwitz.
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> > Why is it that the FAQ of soc.motts gives NAMBLA a free plug?
>
> The FAQ of soc.motts doesn't even mention NAMBLA. You're a liar, but
> then again, bigots like you are liars. The URL for the FAQ is at
> <http://www.jesscc.com/doc/motss/faq/faq_text.html>; check it out for
> yourself.
You are correct. It is not there NOW. But it had been there up to very
recently. It had been there in the exact same form since at least 1955
(C.E.). Look at this:
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5.4.4 What is NAMBLA?
The North American Man-Boy Love Association "support[s] men and boys
in consensual relationships with one another and help[s] educate society
about the nature of such relationships," according to a posting by one
of its members. For info: XXXXXX Info, XXXX XX, P.O.Box XXX, XXXXXXX
XXXXXXX, XXX XX XXXXX, or email XX...@XXXXXX.com. Discussion of NAMBLA's
goals via postings to soc.motss and in the LGBO* community often stirs
sharp controversy. More information is available on the XXX.
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You notice that I Xed out all the information which would enable newbie
fags to contact NAMBLA.
I believe it was because of my constantly mentioning that the soc.motts FAQ
gives a free plug to NAMBLA, that this free plug was removed from the FAQ.
You would thank me for this if you were truly an enemy of NAMBLA.
Now, if you want to discuss who is and who isn't a liar, don't forget the
fact that I filed a complaint involving the Communications Decency Act of
1996. There was this homonazi NAMBLA supporter from Australia, namely Rod
Swift. Every time I flamed NAMBLA, Swift would flame me, using indecent
language. Because he is an Australian citizen, posting from Australia, he
was allowed to use indecent language to flame me, but I would not have been
allowed to even quote his indecent language. So I filed a complaint
challenging the constitutionality of that law. The American Civil Liberties
Union, as you well know, filed the complaint in that case which was
eventually ruled upon by the Supreme Court. In MY complaint I copied the
exact language of the American Civil liberties Union complaint. So, now one
of you faggots accuses me of legalizing sending porn to children. Look at
this:
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From: shra...@LICEenteract.com (Allen James)
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Subject: Fred "Kiddie-Porn" Cherry
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 20:52:13 -0500
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UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK
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Fred Cherry, :
PLAINTIFF, : 96_Civ.______
-v- :
: COMPLAINT
JANET RENO, in her official capacity as :
ATTORNEY GENERAL OF THE UNITED STATES, :
:
DEFENDANT. :
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PRELIMINARY STATEMENT
1. This is an action for declaratory and injunctive relief
challenging provisions of the "Communications Decency Act of 1996"
(the challenged provisions are referred to hereinafter as "the
Act"). One provision imposes criminal penalties for "indecent" but
constitutionally protected telecommunications to individuals under
the age of 18; another criminalizes the use of any "interactive
computer service" to "send" or "display in a manner available" to
a person under 18 any communication that "depicts or describes, in
terms patently offensive as measured by contemporary community
standards, sexual or excretory activities or organs." The
plaintiff, a user of computer communication systems, asserts that
the Act is unconstitutional on its face and as applied because it
criminalizes expression that is protected by the First Amendment;
________________________________________
In other words, O Fans Of Fred Cherry, he SUED the Government because they
made child pornography on the Internet ILLEGAL.
Jeez, what a lowlife you are, Fred.
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> > Don't
> > forget all the altar boys who are molested by homosexual Roman Catholic
> > priests. The Roman Catholic Church is so influential that it is very
> > rare for any of these homosexual Roman Catholic priests to be
> > criminally prosecuted for their depredations.
>
> For someone who cries "Anti-Semitism" at the drop of a hat, you
> shoudn't be quite so fast to express your own religious bigotry.
So now you are defending the Roman-Catholic Church, are you? I thought all
of you fags and dykes were down on the Roman-Catholic Church. Didn't you
ever hear of the Pope's Encyclical "Veritatis Splendor"? The pope calls
faggotry and dykery "An objective disorder."
Aren't you aware of the differences between the Roman-Catholic (Douay)
version of the Christian Bible and the Kink James version of the Christian
Bible? Kink James, as is well-known, was a fag. The people who prepared the
Kink James version of the Christian Bible catered to Kink James'
prejudices. The Kink James version of the Christian Bible says: "Thou shalt
not suffer a witch to live." But the Roman-Catholic version of the
Christian Bible says: "Thou shalt not suffer a wizard to live." Now, look
up the definition of "wizard in the Oxford English Dictionary and one
definition of "wizard" is a male witch. But, even more important, The
Roman-Catholic version of the Christian Bible contains the Books of the
Maccabees, while the Kink James version does not. The books of the
Maccabees describe how My Glorious Ancestors, the Maccabees, fought and won
a revolution against homosexual oppression. See, for example, Howard Fast's
historical novel titled: "My Glorious Brothers."
> Fred Phelps and Fred Cherry: The two biggest homophobic nutcase liars
> in the world.
I have seen Phelps' website where he has a picture of himself with a picket
sign reading "Thank God for AIDS." In commenting on this website. I posted:
"Does he thank his god that bisexual men are engaging in anal intercourse,
catching AIDS, and then bringing this horrible disease home to their
unsuspecting wives?"
Not bad, eh? In one sentence I managed to put down both Phelps and faggots.
jo...@world.std.com (Fred Cherry)
Grand Duke of Yugoslobia
Duke of Vulgaria
Grand Muff-Diver of Jerusalem
& Elector of Homophobia