Ron Brownstein notes that if President Obama does sign a health care
reform bill, "which appears more likely than not, Republicans will face
a momentous choice between consolidation and repudiation -- between
accepting the new program and seeking to dismantle it.
The alternative paths are neatly captured by the GOP's contrasting
reactions to the two central cords of America's existing social safety
net."
"After FDR got Social Security approved in 1935, Alf Landon, his
Republican challenger in 1936, denounced it... Roosevelt's landslide
victory over Landon (and subsequent re-elections) provided Social
Security the time to build impregnable support..."
"By contrast, Republicans largely accepted Medicare soon after
President Johnson signed it into law in 1965."
http://politicalwire.com/archives/2009/11/13/what_will_republicans_do_if_health_care_passes.html
Gain back the Congressional majority and repeal it at the first
opportunity.
The GOP will wait for its success or failure. If it works they will
claim credit for the amendments they put in but voted against in the
final bill. That's win-win for them.
JohnN
In your dreams, fascist-wanna be.
PDW
Uh-huh.
They won't know until Fox News tells them.
-jc
> The alternative paths are neatly captured by the GOP's contrasting
> reactions to the two central cords of America's existing social safety
> net."
>
> "After FDR got Social Security approved in 1935, Alf Landon, his
> Republican challenger in 1936, denounced it... Roosevelt's landslide
> victory over Landon (and subsequent re-elections) provided Social
> Security the time to build impregnable support..."
>
> "By contrast, Republicans largely accepted Medicare soon after
> President Johnson signed it into law in 1965."
>
> http://politicalwire.com/archives/2009/11/13/what_will_republicans_do...
Like I said, in his dreams, esp if the conservatives continue to act
as obstructionist.
PDW
Gain back the Congressional majority and repeal it at the first
opportunity.
SoZ:
Gonna happen ... with interest.
PDW
SoZ:
What are you smoking.
JohnN
SoZ:
ehhhhh...... what amendments?
That's easy: they'll insist that they need to become MORE "conservative",
and try to make themselves more appealing to the most radical fringe of
their dwindling constituency, until Glen Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Sean
Hannity, Bill O'Reilly, Ann Coulter, and my brother-in-law are the only
people left who still call themselves "Republicans".
--
MarkA
Keeper of the Butter Dish of Balshazar
SoZ:
Bet the north forty on it.
They will do the same thing as the Democrats do. Suffer higher health
care costs and live under the effects of Obama care.
As obstructionists to freedom?
These idiot Obama lovers think the whole fight will be over if this
healthcare crap passes this year...
How fucking dumb can they get?This battle will go on forever.
We might not be able to repeal it this year or next year, but there's
always 2011,2012,2013,2014..........etc.
<Snort> Sure son. Whatever you say.
PDW
What are you?
PDW
No.
Obstructionist to progress.
PDW
What are you?
PDW
SoZ:
The reality of this debacle is that democrats are obstructing democrats.
Again ... what are you smoking?
PDW
SoZ:
How long did you ponder that "eloquent" reply?.
PDW
SoZ:
Anyone know what *PDW* stands for?
Look it up on Google, asshole; It's out there.
PDW
PDW
SoZ:
I found "Post Democratic Woes". Is this what it means?
> On Nov 13, 1:53�pm, John Manning <jrobe...@terra.com.br> wrote:
>
>
> Gain back the Congressional majority
BAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA!
Yeah.
--
Doc Smartass | BAAWA Knight of Troll Medication | aa # 1939
Book reviews: http://jw-bookblog.blogspot.com/
Kook Clearinghouse! http://kookclearinghouse.blogspot.com/
Hey, GOPpers: Grab a Mop!
One restricting reproductive rights. Even a bunch of "Democrats" voted
up the restriction, since they care more about being re-elected than
they do about living in a modern society.
http://usliberals.about.com/od/healthcare/a/StupakAmendment.htm
-Panama Floyd, Atlanta.
aa#2015, Member Knights of BAAWA!
"..the prayer cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next."
-Mark Twain
Religious societies are *less* moral than secular ones:
http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2005/2005-11.html
[snip]
> Even a bunch of "Democrats" voted up the restriction, since they care more
> about being re->
> elected than they do about living in a modern society.
LOL
Your "modern society" sucks.
Ike
You're congenitally clueless, anonymous coward. The answer is right in
front of what's left of your eyes, and you still can't figure it out. If
there was a minimum-IQ standard for access to Usenet, you'd have been booted
out by now.
--
Patrick L. "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.io.com/~patrick/aeros.php (TCI's 2008-09 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: Houston 6, Lake Erie 0 (November 13)
NEXT GAME: Saturday, November 14 at Lake Erie, 12:05
> On Nov 13, 3:02�pm, "SwordoZ" <mar...@enter.net> wrote:
>> "Syd M." <pdwrigh...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:9b14b8a1-0f9d-4a6a...@d21g2000yqn.googlegroups.com
>> ... On Nov 13, 5:23 pm, John Manning <jrobe...@terra.com.br> wrote:
>>
>> > Joe Bruno wrote:
>> > > On Nov 13, 1:53 pm, John Manning <jrobe...@terra.com.br> wrote:
>>
>> > > Gain back the Congressional majority and repeal it at the first
>> > > opportunity.
>>
>> > Uh-huh.
>>
>> Like I said, in his dreams, esp if the conservatives continue to act
>> as obstructionist.
>>
>> PDW
>>
>> SoZ:
>> What are you smoking.
>
> These idiot Obama lovers think the whole fight will be over if this
> healthcare crap passes this year...
> How fucking dumb can they get?This battle will go on forever.
> We might not be able to repeal it this year or next year, but there's
> always 2011
So what big elections happen in 2011, genius?
Is that when Mayberry gets a new shit-shoveler and replaces your sorry
ass? I wasn't aware that it was an elected position. Or do you simply
serve for the pleasure of it?
>
> "Joe Bruno" <joeb...@usa.com> wrote in message
> news:38010a84-8a42-410e-9f99-c8b9d1d662b0
@j24g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 13, 1:53 pm, John Manning <jrobe...@terra.com.br> wrote:
>
>
> Gain back the Congressional majority and repeal it at the first
> opportunity.
>
>
> SoZ:
> Gonna happen ... with interest.
You gomers were predicting a landslide for McCain't/Barbie. They kinda
got their asses handed to them on fine china.
Your powers of prediction--steeped deeply in wishful thinking--do not
impress.
Shaddap, redneck. The adults are talking.
I'm so fucking tired of the land of my birth just being a Third World
nation with nukes (pretty ironic, since *we* are the ones who invented
the damn things, eh?), and I'm equally tired of you morons pretending
we're nothing else.
You inbred fucks wouldn't know a modern society if it took your
fucking Camaros off the cinderblocks, repainted the bitches, and
restored them to get you $22K at the Barrett-Jackson auction. It's a
shame, that...since such pathetic hopes are what you're hoping will
carry you through retirement...
A "modern" society is one where people are more important than money,
where the wealth is spread around enough that no one will pull a gun
on you to steal your shit, and where women & babies don't die in
childbirth.
The US fails on all of those tests.
http://ezinearticles.com/?Dealing-With-Insurance-Denials&id=1574617
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_mur_percap-crime-murders-per-capita
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_infant_mortality_rate
Ike, I've seen enough of your moronic ravings here in alt.atheism to
know that you're too fucking stupid to understand any path of thought
& discussion more complicated than "LETZ GO BLOW EM ALL UP!"
And spare me your fucking "LUB IT R LEEB IT!!" nonsense, shithead. I
do love the place, much more than my alleged "fellow citizens" that
are pussy enough to run away in these difficult times..
http://www.escapefromamerica.com/
If it weren't for the "liburls" you hate, your children would have
been working overtime sewing Levis.
http://www.continuetolearn.uiowa.edu/laborctr/child_labor/about/us_history.html
Now be a good boy. Go back to your moronic tax-free mental torture
centers (you call them "churches", IIRC), and stop pretending you're
educated enough about political issues to comment upon them. If your
"Christ" is so fucking important to you, perhaps you should spend more
time sucking his dick, instead of trying to vote. Read Matthew 22:20
through 22 again, idiot. Your god commands you to disengage from
political discussion, and just take it up the ass like a jailhouse
"bitch".
> These idiot Obama lovers think the whole fight will be over if this
> healthcare crap passes this year...
> How fucking dumb can they get?This battle will go on forever.
> We might not be able to repeal it this year or next year, but there's
> always 2011,2012,2013,2014..........etc.
Yeah! Fuck those sick fucking people who can't afford healthcare. Fuck
them good!
--
If you don't beat your meat
You can't have any pudding
How can you have any pudding
If you don't beat your meat?
Is Obama aware of England's National State Run Health Care system?
LOL! Lack of adequate doctors (particularly dentists), and routine X-
rays/appointments that take weeks to months. They are literally
pulling out their own teeth in the streets! ehe I kibbitz you not! eh
One paper had a Brit on its cover, tooth and pliers in hand!eheh -D,
NYC "The Jew is the emblem of eternity. He who neither slaughter nor
torture of thousands of years could destroy, he who neither fire, nor
sword, nor Inquisition was able to wipe off the face of the earth. He
who was the first to produce the Oracles of God. He who has been for
so long the Guardian of Prophecy and has transmitted it to the rest of
the world. Such a nation cannot be destroyed. The Jew is as
everlasting as Eternity itself" - LEO TOLSTOY.."Think Yiddish, dress
British!" - Popular MADISON AVE slogan.."In New York, even if you're
Catholic, you're Jewish. If you live in Butte, Montana, you're going
to be Goyish, even if you're Jewish!" ehe - LENNY BRUCE (b. Leonard
Alfred Schneider, umpteenth sweet, Jewish NYer).."Christianity has
deluged the world with blood & tears - Judaism has caused neither for
religion's sake" - MARK TWAIN.."Five Jewish men influenced the history
of Western civilization: Moses said the law is everything. Jesus said
love is everything. Marx said capital is everything. Freud said sex is
everything. Einstein said everything is relative" eheee.."Hebraic
mortar cemented the foundations of American democracy" - WILLIAM
LECKY, Historian.."Western civilization is undeniably a 'Jewified'
civilization, however offensive the word may be to our ears because of
the ugly use made of it by anti-Semites - anti-Semites believed that
Jews were everywhere, and in a sense they were almost everywhere that
counted in modern society" - ALBERT LINDEMANN in Esau's Tears: Modern
anti-Semitism and the Rise of the Jews
So you claim to be a NYC Jewish Democrat but you're AGAINST Obama's
healthcare? <facepalm>
Darrin, why did you accuse me of leaving crickets behind, only to run
away yourself a few days later?!! Epic AOL fail.
> LOL! Lack of adequate doctors (particularly dentists), and routine X-
> rays/appointments that take weeks to months. They are literally
> pulling out their own teeth in the streets! ehe I kibbitz you not! eh
> One paper had a Brit on its cover, tooth and pliers in hand!eheh -D,
> NYC "The Jew is the emblem of eternity. He who neither slaughter nor
> torture of thousands of years could destroy, he who neither fire, nor
> sword, nor Inquisition was able to wipe off the face of the earth. He
> who was the first to produce the Oracles of God. He who has been for
> so long the Guardian of Prophecy and has transmitted it to the rest of
> the world. Such a nation cannot be destroyed. The Jew is as
> everlasting as Eternity itself" - LEO TOLSTOY..
Why don't you acknowledge the quote where Einstein said Jews are
nothing special?
"Think Yiddish, dress
> British!" - Popular MADISON AVE slogan.."In New York, even if you're
> Catholic, you're Jewish. If you live in Butte, Montana, you're going
> to be Goyish, even if you're Jewish!" ehe - LENNY BRUCE (b. Leonard
> Alfred Schneider, umpteenth sweet, Jewish NYer).
False. Jews in NYC are "Goyified". They're NOT keeping Kosher.
They're NOT marrying Jewesses. They ARE driving around in GERMAN
cars. They ARE speaking ENGLISH.
."Christianity has
> deluged the world with blood & tears - Judaism has caused neither for
> religion's sake" - MARK TWAIN.."Five Jewish men influenced the history
> of Western civilization: Moses said the law is everything. Jesus said
> love is everything. Marx said capital is everything. Freud said sex is
> everything. Einstein said everything is relative" eheee.."Hebraic
> mortar cemented the foundations of American democracy" - WILLIAM
> LECKY, Historian.."Western civilization is undeniably a 'Jewified'
> civilization,
You still haven't explained this. This is a Gentile country in a
Gentile world Learn it, live it!
So Darrin, you're officially retreating again, but will you be
ignoring me? We'll just have to wait and see. Of course I've heard
you say that before.
Remember Darrin, anything Jew can do we can do better! Gentiles 99%
of the population and the best at 99% of everything!
SoZ:
Ahhhhhh ... continue.
SoZ:
I also found "PTS". Help me ... what does that mean.
I guess initials are a mystery to you. --PLH
> You gomers were predicting a landslide for McCain't/Barbie. They kinda
> got their asses handed to them on fine china.
SoZ:
They didn't impress. I betcha you had "goosebumps" running down your leg
like "screeching" matthews on msnbc ... didn't you?
> Your powers of prediction--steeped deeply in wishful thinking--do not
> impress.
SoZ:
When it happens, and *mark* my words it's going to, who are you going to
point fingers for your demise politically .... the astro-turfers,
tea-baggers, right-wingers, beck, limbaugh, hannity, seasoned citizens and
anyone else with a sense of reality?
> Hey, GOPpers: Grab a Mop!
SoZ:
I suggest you go and buy one as well because you are going to have to help
clean up this mess as well whether you want to or not.
SoZ:
Guess some more. "Pretty Light Headed" .... is that what it means?
A "modern" society is one where people are more important than money,
SoZ:
Agree.
where the wealth is spread around enough that no one will pull a gun
on you to steal your shit,
SoZ:
But here's where the argument begins.
You mean the answer is to give someone part of someone elses wealth to teach
them to sit home, do nothing, procreate, steal, use guns to kill and drug
themselves to death as their children while their children continue the same
vicious cycle .... all in the name of "compassionate" wealth
re-distribution ... huh?
Re-distribution has been in effect for some fifty years and it's proven a
travesty concerning the human condition.
and where women & babies don't die in
childbirth.
SoZ:
agree.
How nice for the insurance companies to get shills like you to protect
the corporate stranglehold over the cost and availability of health
care, while fighting against your own self interests like this.
BTW, do you understand what is meant in this context by "astro-
turfers"? Read my previous sentence again for a clue. Hint, it is
not a good thing to be one.
---
a.a. #2273
How nice for the insurance companies to get shills like you to protect.
SoZ:
Am not speaking for nor protecting anyone.
the corporate stranglehold over the cost and availability of health
care, while fighting against your own self interests like this.
SoZ: The answer ... insurance competion between state lines. What's so
difficult about that?
BTW, do you understand what is meant in this context by "astro-
turfers"?
SoZ:
Your attempting to paint "astro-turfers" (citizens) again with a fallicious
out of context term. You seemingly are demeaning people just for
disagreeing..
Read my previous sentence again for a clue. Hint, it is
not a good thing to be one.
SoZ:
You don't consider the Goldman Sachs, GE, Unions, the Liberal establishment
and admitted Communist/Socialists of the world being "shills" in the "Waffle
House"?
You believe on the one hand it's not a good thing to be categorized as a
astro-turf or a corporate "shill" .... but yet on the other hand you
apparently have no problem and believe it's a good thing to have special
interest "shills" in the "Waffle House".
Your out of touch with the real world my friend.
---
a.a. #2273
More liberal baiting; Is that all you got?
PDW
Initials, idiot... Like a name... Like what he illustrated..?
PDW
>On Nov 13, 7:35�pm, logan.sac...@gmail.com (Logan Sacket) wrote:
>> On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:35:39 -0800 (PST), "Syd M."
>>
>> <pdwrigh...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >On Nov 13, 5:23�pm, John Manning <jrobe...@terra.com.br> wrote:
>> >> Joe Bruno wrote:
>> >> > On Nov 13, 1:53 pm, John Manning <jrobe...@terra.com.br> wrote:
>>
>> >> > Gain back the Congressional majority and repeal it at the first
>> >> > opportunity.
>>
>> >> Uh-huh.
>>
>> >Like I said, in his dreams, esp if the conservatives continue to act
>> >as obstructionist.
>>
>> >PDW
>>
>> As obstructionists to freedom?
>
>No.
>Obstructionist to progress.
>
>PDW
When liberals are around , obstruction to the freedom is the same
thing as progress
You have to realize that this has nothing to do with health care.
It is about taking your freedom from you. Once they get socialize
health care, they can control more of you life.
If all it was, was to insure the uninsured, there are simple ways of
doing that, and it would cost everyone less as well.
So, you're too clueless to read the .signature? Maybe you'll luck out on
guessing it someday.
--
Patrick L. "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.io.com/~patrick/aeros.php (TCI's 2008-09 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: Lake Erie 3, Houston 1 (November 14)
NEXT GAME: Sunday, November 15 vs. Chicago, 4:05
He appears to have a sizable cave between his ears.
> Cites from named sources?>>
You actually need cites/sites to know that dentistry is practically
non-existent in bloody old England? eh Are you like my cyberstalker
extraordinaire?eh ie. I have to continue telling him that Einstein is
still the smartest man of the 20th century and beyond!heeheh BTW,
those nasty British choppers are no stereotype!eh Poor nutrition
(specifically during WW II - lack of vegetables) + inadequate
dentistry + poor hygiene (most of Europe is smegma-strewn!ehe) =
Austin Powers!ehe But alas, here's the cite/site (eh): http://tinyurl.com/c5nvhc
You're taking movies and humor WAAAAAAY too seriously. Of course you
don't have any "facts" to back up your claims.
eh Are you like my cyberstalker
> extraordinaire?eh ie. I have to continue telling him that Einstein is
> still the smartest man of the 20th century and beyond!heeheh
Da Vinci, Edison, Hawking, DARWIN, etc.
BTW,
> those nasty British choppers are no stereotype!eh Poor nutrition
> (specifically during WW II - lack of vegetables)
So they had bad teeth 70 years ago because of the war? What about
NOW?
+ inadequate
> dentistry + poor hygiene (most of Europe is smegma-strewn!ehe) =
> Austin Powers!ehe But alas, here's the cite/site (eh):http://tinyurl.com/c5nvhc
So you're talking 1 isolated incident as the norm for an entire
country? Yet Jews are marrying shiksas at a whopping 50 PERCENT and
that's just a rare exception!? WOW, what logic!
So is this it Darrin, are you ignoring me forever now? Remember,
ignoring = defeat.
This is exactly what the Consevative party in Britain said in 1948.
They soon changed their tune when it became apparent that the people liked
the NHS and wouldn't vote for any party that would dismantle it.
How long do you think your Replican party could continue, never winning an
election?
--
Smiler
The godless one
a.a.# 2279
All gods are bespoke. They're all made to
perfectly fit the prejudices of their believer
Especially if the healthcare reforms turn out to be as popular as I suspect
they will be.
Nobody, repeat, nobody, would then vote for any party that would take those
gains away from them.
More lies and hate.
PDW
Yep. And a bigger one below his nose.
PDW
The huge tax increases on families will not be popular at all.
There ain't nothing free.
That's a great idea there-putting through huge tax increases in the
midst of a deep recession.
People are short of money, so the Democrats will solve that problem by
giving them less money.
Initials, idiot...
SoZ:
That's what he gave me.
Like a name...
SoZ:
I understand. Isn't "Pretty Light Headed" indicative of a name?
Like what he illustrated..?
SoZ:
I did what he illustrated as follows:
I asked what *PDW* stood for ... *then* the first thing he does is call me
an "asshole" for no apparent reason.
I stated "Post Democratic Woes" ... *then* apparently this struck a nerve of
sorts because he refers to me as being a "congenitally clueless, anonymous
coward".
I mentioned "PTS". That didn't suit either ... *then* he stated ... "I
guess initials are a mystery to you and ended it with -- ... "PLH".
*Then* I guessed as he opined and came up with ... "Pretty Light Headed"
... which is an accurate illustration of what the the initials ... "PLH" ...
stood for.
SoZ
More liberal baiting;
SoZ:
Looks like you've got a full stomach for now.
Is that all you got?
SoZ:
Wait until 2010 and 2012 when your stomachs going to be a bit empty.
SoZ:
SoZ:
I believe it accurately describes the nature of the "signature" of an
instigator. I'm helping you out and you don't comprehend.
SoZ:
Fearful of engaging what's in the cave?
SoZ:
Fearful of engaging what comes out of the *bigger* cave?
Indeed, that has been exactly what has happened here in Canada. Our
single
payor public Medicare program is so popular that no party dares to
suggest
that they would like to make it go away.
But, our most rightist political party is somewhat to the left of the
Democrats
in the US, so...
Andre
Why should we be fearful of an empty space?
Or are you admitting that it's a black hole?
Likewise, the UK Conservative party. But then we do also have the BNP (a
neo-nazi party), but even they aren't (directly) proposing to abolish the
NHS, although their policy of forced repatriation for immigrants will
severly weaken it through lack of staff. They only get about 1% of the polls
in general elections but do better in local elections.
You're about as helpful as a screen door on a submarine.
--
Patrick L. "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.io.com/~patrick/aeros.php (TCI's 2008-09 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: Chicago 2, Houston 1 (November 15)
NEXT GAME: Wednesday, November 18 vs. Peoria, 7:05
If it's that big, that's your personal problem.
--
Patrick L. "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.io.com/~patrick/aeros.php (TCI's 2008-09 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
I called you an asshole because your acting like one.
And making up stuff for my initials is not going to help.
PDW
IOW, no, you've got nothing.
Just another loudmouthed troll.
PDW
Yes, you do have a fear of engaging.
PDW
I guess I was getting all "utopian" with that one...<g>
I didn't mean direct redistribution..you're correct. Any tour of a
public housing project in the US would be evidence of the failures you
describe. I just meant a `ground-up' reconstruction of the conditions
that cause the inequality in the first place. I'm talking about
adressing poverty, poor education, etc. And I realize that just
throwing money at those problems doesn't make them go away-we tried
that in the 1960s, and the problems still remain.
> and where women & babies don't die in
> childbirth.
>
> SoZ:
> agree.
-Panama Floyd, Atlanta.
aa#2015, Member Knights of BAAWA!
"..the prayer cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next."
-Mark Twain
Religious societies are *less* moral than secular ones:
http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2005/2005-11.html
PDW
SoZ:
For questioning what ... "PDW" ... represented. Your trying to win a battle
of words using a "water pistol". Your too immature to handle a "PDW".
SoZ
SoZ:
That's *NOT* too intellegent a response coming from one who handle is ...
"The Chief Instigator". You would be fine in a kindergarten setting ...
but your playing with the men now.
SoZ:
The proof is in your replys that I'm engaging a "PLH" ... otherwise known as
being "Pretty Light Headed".
PDW ... hopefully you have access to more water.
PDW=WPW
SoZ:
:)
Liberal "thinkers" are having their "day" in the sun and it's turning into
the end of liberalism. Your going to shed tears for a while ... but be of
good cheer .... you'll adjust to what's coming down the pike.
SoZ:
This is the end result of liberal "intelligentsia" *slaving* people for
personal political gain.
I just meant a `ground-up' reconstruction of the conditions
that cause the inequality in the first place.
SoZ:
How do you "reconstruct" the concept in place?
Not referring to the principles which this nation was founded on.
I'm talking about
adressing poverty, poor education, etc.
SoZ:
How do you address that?
And I realize that just
throwing money at those problems doesn't make them go away-we tried
that in the 1960s, and the problems still remain.
SoZ:
I agree.
SoZ:
"Fearful" is what was stated. I'm stating you don't have the "gonads" to
engage what's in the sizeable cave as opine.
Why should any reasonable person want to play in that giant shithole
that is your skull ?
Social Security isn't going away, Medicare isn't going away,
and a public health care system, as desired by the MAJORITY of
US citizens, won't go away just because some dumbass ReThugs
want it gone.
But, please, by all means, nominate Sarah Pallid in 2012. It would
guarantee Four More Years for Obama, even though he's been far
too timid about fixing the MESS of 8 years of the Chimpenfuhrer.
Andre
LOL! You keep telling yourself that.
<Snort> Another failed prophet.
The 'End of liberalism' has been predicted before, son... Usually by
smug right-wing Christian assholes just before the public lose their
taste for 'conservatism.'
PDW
SoZ:
What "reasonable person" would make such a derogatory remark such as you've
made ... other than one who possesses and speaketh from an experienced giant
hole such as that.
Social Security isn't going away, Medicare isn't going away,
SoZ:
agree.
and a public health care system, as desired by the MAJORITY of
US citizens,
SoZ:
Remember the numbers 2010/2012 ... if your still around.
won't go away just because some dumbass ReThugs
want it gone.
SoZ:
....and this coming from a "reasonsonable person"?
But, please, by all means, nominate Sarah Pallid in 2012.
SoZ:
I have nothing to do with that, but if nominated remember to thank the
independents and conservatives with your "reasonable persona".
It would
guarantee Four More Years for Obama,
SoZ:
:) He's been hung out to dry by his "minions" and you try to convince
yourself otherwise.
even though he's been far
too timid about fixing the MESS of 8 years of the Chimpenfuhrer.
Andre
SoZ:
Information to the clueless "minion" ... this mess began 49 years ago.
SoZ:
No ... I'm telling "you" at the moment so as to prepare yourself by loading
up on crying towels and disposal diapers.
<Snort> Another failed prophet.
SoZ:
:) We shall see.
The 'End of liberalism' has been predicted before, son...
Usually by
smug right-wing Christian assholes just before the public lose their
taste for 'conservatism.'
SoZ:
Enjoy the arrogrance for the moment .... it's short lived.
PDW = WPDW
SoZ
Sorry, but you aren't telling me a thing. You're here trying to
convince yourself.
...and how long have you been amusing your betters in this medium? I've
been a Usenet contributor for a few months past two decades. (Maybe you can
figure out what my ID was in my first post.)
Fearful? *yawn* Slightly amused, in your case.
Hopefully, yours will be straight from the ocean. (No Lake Houston for you,
wot?)
Yeah, I've heard of them (I have some relatives in the UK). I don't
believe
that we have anything comparable in Canada. At present, we have four
political parties in Parliment, the current minority gov't
Conservative Party,
the opposition Liberals and New Democrats (That name has zilch to do
with anything Clintonian, when he used it for a while, as a
candidate.
Our NDP's names goes back to about 1961.), and the Quebec-only
Bloc Quebecois.
I would say that ONLY the Censervatives are as right wing as the
US Democratic Party...
The next party trying to get into Parliament is the Green Party.
Andre
Any reasonable person who is sick and tired of wingnutters trying to
pose as
a reasonable political party.
"Bill Maher: Democrats Have Moved To The Right And The Right Has
Moved
Into A Mental Hospital".
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/21/bill-maher-democrats-have_n_218593.html
He was 100% right.
> Social Security isn't going away, Medicare isn't going away,
>
> SoZ:
> agree.
>
> and a public health care system, as desired by the MAJORITY of
> US citizens,
>
> SoZ:
> Remember the numbers 2010/2012 ... if your still around.
<Laughs> Please ! With lunatics like Rush the drug addict, and Glenn
the loony speaking for the ReThugs, them winning back the House is
as sure a bet as Cheney fessing up for all of his fuckups and lies.
Ain't. Gonna. Happen.
> won't go away just because some dumbass ReThugs
> want it gone.
>
> SoZ:
> ....and this coming from a "reasonsonable person"?
Yep, I call a spade a spade. Or, in this case, a fucking shovel.
You got a problem with that ? Then feel free to shove your head even
farther up your own dumbass.
> But, please, by all means, nominate Sarah Pallid in 2012.
>
> SoZ:
> I have nothing to do with that, but if nominated remember to thank the
> independents and conservatives with your "reasonable persona".
"What is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence."
Christopher Hitchens.
Here's the list, oh toolish twat:
If you think that Sarah Pallid is anything other than a walking
advertisement
for retroactive abortion, you're a wingnut.
If you think that evolution isn't true, you're a wingnut.
If you think that Obama is a "socialist", you're a wingnut.
If you thnk that the US health care ayatem is the greatest in the
world, you're
a wingnut.
If you think that Bush wasn't the worst President in at least 100
years, you're a
wingnut.
QED, bumpkin.
> It would
> guarantee Four More Years for Obama,
>
> SoZ:
> :) He's been hung out to dry by his "minions" and you try to convince
> yourself otherwise.
Ibid Hitchens.
> even though he's been far
> too timid about fixing the MESS of 8 years of the Chimpenfuhrer.
> Andre
>
> SoZ:
> Information to the clueless "minion" ... this mess began 49 years ago.
Are you claiming that the US invaded, as an aggressor, Iraq in 1960 ?
Well then, you ARE a wingnutter. Don't forget to adjust your TinHat
(tm)...
Andre
SoZ:
:) and this coming from a "reasonable person". Go crawl under your rock.
SoZ
SoZ
SoZ:
:) Feel left out. Now you know as well.
SoZ
Sorry, that's not my policy. You'll have to consider something rational,
like filtering me out, which is your right.
PDW
SoZ:
Your going to need more than Lake Houston for your "WPDW".
SoZ:
You will need a supply of diapers and crying towels when "reasonable
persons" answer in 2010/2012.
"Bill Maher: Democrats Have Moved To The Right And The Right Has
Moved
Into A Mental Hospital".
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/21/bill-maher-democrats-have_n_218593.html
He was 100% right.
SoZ:
Maher suffers from myopic visions of grandeur.
Apparently your intellect is keeping from you the fact that *true* democrats
have been running away from the "funny" farm mentality of their own party
for quite a few months. The polls reveal such.
> Social Security isn't going away, Medicare isn't going away,
>
> SoZ:
> agree.
>
> and a public health care system, as desired by the MAJORITY of
> US citizens,
>
> SoZ:
> Remember the numbers 2010/2012 ... if your still around.
<Laughs> Please ! With lunatics like Rush the drug addict, and Glenn
the loony speaking for the ReThugs, them winning back the House is
as sure a bet as Cheney fessing up for all of his fuckups and lies.
Ain't. Gonna. Happen.
SoZ:
Again ... remember the numbers 2010/2012 ... if your still around.
> won't go away just because some dumbass ReThugs
> want it gone.
>
> SoZ:
> ....and this coming from a "reasonsonable person"?
Yep, I call a spade a spade. Or, in this case, a fucking shovel.
SoZ:
Good choice. I believe the f------ shovel, as you stated, is a much faster
way to finalize digging your own grave.
You got a problem with that ? Then feel free to shove your head even
farther up your own dumbass.
SoZ:
Funny ... but everytime I look ... you are stuck up your own to the
shoulders. Apparently the only time you come out is when you hit the
keyboard.
> But, please, by all means, nominate Sarah Pallid in 2012.
>
> SoZ:
> I have nothing to do with that, but if nominated remember to thank the
> independents and conservatives with your "reasonable persona".
"What is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence."
Christopher Hitchens.
SoZ:
Is he your god?
Here's the list, oh toolish twat:
If you think that Sarah Pallid is anything other than a walking
advertisement
for retroactive abortion, you're a wingnut.
SoZ:
FEAR is the reason why humans fixate on demeaning and ultimately destroying
another individual.
If you think that evolution isn't true, you're a wingnut.
Soz:
What would you call someone who believes nothing is responsible for
everything?
If you think that Obama is a "socialist", you're a wingnut.
SoZ:
What would you call someone lacking the intelligence to understand and
differentiate between the results produced by "democracy" as opposed
to"socialism"?
If you thnk that the US health care ayatem is the greatest in the
world, you're
a wingnut.
SoZ:
What do you call someone who lacks the intelligence of comparative analysis?
If you think that Bush wasn't the worst President in at least 100
years, you're a
wingnut.
QED, bumpkin.
SoZ:
How would you describe "someone" who presently occupies Waffle House who
throws stones at everyone to cover his ineptness?
> It would
> guarantee Four More Years for Obama,
>
> SoZ:
> :) He's been hung out to dry by his "minions" and you try to convince
> yourself otherwise.
Ibid Hitchens.
SoZ:
:)
> even though he's been far
> too timid about fixing the MESS of 8 years of the Chimpenfuhrer.
> Andre
>
> SoZ:
> Information to the clueless "minion" ... this mess began 49 years ago.
Are you claiming that the US invaded, as an aggressor, Iraq in 1960 ?
SoZ:
No - that's when liberalism began to get it's hook into the fabric of
America democracy. President Obama is the epitome of liberal timidity and
waffling. Apparently you agree.
Well then, you ARE a wingnutter. Don't forget to adjust your (tm)... TinHat
Andre
SoZ:
I adjust respectfully to all "TinHats" who lie 6 ft. under ground in
Normandy, Arlington and where ever they fell around the globe. Try to sell
your liberal spin to the parents, wives and children of those "TinHats".
SoZ
SoZ: :)
Quite a while. The amusing part ... the disrespectful having to bite their
tongues?
I've
> been a Usenet contributor for a few months past two decades.
SoZ:
Spinning your seniority rank on me?
(Maybe you can
> figure out what my ID was in my first post.)
SoZ: :)
Since you've asked ... I guessed as you asked of me ... and the shoe fits
"Pretty Light Headed".
Hopefully your not of american indian descent ... otherwise they probably
would disown you.
SoZ: :)
Oh ... you sound civil. Are you in need of bandaids
or medical assistance of sorts.
Not particularly, just providing the information.
>> (Maybe you can figure out what my ID was in my first post.)
>
> SoZ: :) Since you've asked ... I guessed as you asked of me ... and
> the shoe fits "Pretty Light Headed".
Still a bit off...my first post would have been by
patr...@uncle-bens.rice.edu (the SunLab subnet, whose namespace was kinds
of rice).
> Hopefully your not of american indian descent ... otherwise they probably
> would disown you.
It's not certain, but could be possible...in any event, I spent all but six
months of my first seven and a half years in the Lakeview Heights part of
Tulsa, which had a few Osages, Choctaws, and Cherokees in the neighborhood.
(We were last there two years ago, and Lakeview is going away...90+%
abandoned houses on my old street, and it would make the Fifth Ward look
like River Oaks by comparison, in only 52 years.)
I'm pretty much civil (excepting the occasional referee at an Aeros game).
If I hadn't been, I wouldn't be coming up on 45 years in this city, coming
in about six months.
SoZ:
Any factual reasons as why this has occured?
SoZ:
Are you referring to lacrosse?
Good question...the neighborhood we moved out to the week after Kennedy and
Khrushchev shut down the squabble over Soviet missiles in Cuba, a couple of
blocks east of Mingo Creek south of East 11th (the old US 66) had new houses
building, and it's aged well in the 44 years since we headed south. I
suspect that Crescent Heights had a bit better access to the rest of the
city, with I-44 and the future Mingo Valley Expressway (starting
construction), as opposed to Lakeview, which was on the west edge of Mohawk
Park and accessed only by Mohawk Boulevard. and East 41st Street North.
Even so, when the US 75 freeway was built between Lakeview and Mohawk Park
(and Lake Yahola), that reduced the access from the east, and there never
has been access from the north. The collapse of big oil (the summer of
1961, the six gas stations at the 36th Street North/Mohawk/North Lewis
Avenue triangle got into an insane gas war that had regular leaded gas going
for 5.9� a gallon for a week or so. Just my luck I wouldn't be old enough
to drive for another decade, and I could have filled the tank and gotten a
quarter and change back from a dollar. ;-)
Not quite...it's the modern version of the two pro hockey teams bearing that
name in town. (The original Aeros were in the WHA for its first six
seasons, 1972-73 through 1977-78, and had Gordie Howe and his two sons on
the roster from 1973-74 through 1976-77.) After the 1978 shutdown, there was
a season of the old CHL Apollos in 1980-81, and it was 1993 when a Houston
investor put up the money for an IHL franchise (to be housed at The Summit,
which was shut down when Toyota Center opened in 2003) and it was given the
Aeros name, with a slightly revised logo, and were taken into the AHL (the
NHL's developmental league; the Aeros are the Triple-A club of the NHL
Minnesota Wild) and are in their 16th season, with a home game tomorrow
night. Believe it or not, Texas has as many pro hockey teams as all of
Canada: we have one NHL, three AHL, and seven CHL teams; Canada has six
NHL, four AHL, and one ECHL. (Minnesota is the State of Hockey, but Texas
is The State of Pro Hockey, go figure.)
SoZ:
"It's not what you say but how you say it"
Gotcha.