Body of missing Israeli tourist found.
Tilly
Body of missing tourist found
By KAMALA HAYMAN - The Press | Friday, 16 May 2008
The body of missing Israeli tourist Liat Okin has been found.
Okin, 35, was last seen at the Mackenzie Hut on the Routeburn Track on March
26. A police search failed to find any trace of the tourist and a private
search co-ordinated by the missing woman's brother, Itamar Tas, was launched
on April 24.
This morning police flew back into the area after a private search team
found items belonging to Okin yesterday afternoon in dense bush near the
track.
A body, believed to be Okin, was found near the belongings at 1.10 pm.
Police are currently recovering the body before taking it to Dunedin for a
post mortem and formal identification.
In a statement police said the belongings were found about 2.30pm Thursday.
Queenstown police were alerted that evening when the searchers came out of
the bush and a police search team Flew into the area this morning to join
the private searchers.
Liat's family have been advised of the discovery of the body.
Eli Grubman
>Unfortunately this wasn't the outcome everyone was praying for. :-(
Some people were praying for exactly that. Anyway, what's one
Israeli in comparison to the tens of thousands killed in Burma/China
recently?
Eli
Tilly
What an idiotic comment.
This is news for Jewish and Israeli people who have been following the
case and since ishe went missing in NZ and I am here I am updating them.
You're not one of them so f**k off.
Eli Grubman
>Eli Grubman wrote:
>:: On Fri, 16 May 2008 16:52:25 +1200, "Tilly" <fem...@gmail.com> wrote:
>::
>::: Unfortunately this wasn't the outcome everyone was praying for. :-(
>::
>:: Some people were praying for exactly that. Anyway, what's one
>:: Israeli in comparison to the tens of thousands killed in Burma/China
>:: recently?
>::
>:: Eli
>
>
>What an idiotic comment.
What a stupid story.
>This is news for Jewish and Israeli people who have been following the
>case and since ishe went missing in NZ and I am here I am updating them.
Whoopeedoo!
>You're not one of them so f**k off.
What are you gonna do, fool? Swing your C-cup at me?
Eli
xxa...@yahoo.co.uk
PEDOVICH GET HUMILIATED BY THE GIRLS BHAAAAAAAAAAAAhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!
SO FUCKFIT BETTER LEAVE THIS GROUP AND STICK YOUR DICK TO THE ALEX
ASS!
Eli Grubman
MRS XXARAB ASS ALREADY FULL OF ARAB COCK! EARNING GOOD MONEYS!
MILLIONER ONCLE WAITING TO STICK HIS COCK IN YOUR ASS! PAY GOOD
MONEYS!
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!
ELI
B.H. Cramer
"Tilly" <fem...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Unfortunately this wasn't the outcome everyone was praying for. :-(
Everyone?
B.H. Cramer
Why are you forced to resort to Usenet to communicate with all the hebes in
Ersatz israel.
One would think, given your high level contacts, you'd have automatic entre
to the upper echelons of power.
Just a thought.
>
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ElParedon
doped kike Ecstasy peddlers!
ElParedon
War Party, opening up the exciting prospect that some neocons might well
wind up behind bars.
The charge? Espionage, as Sidney Blumenthal informs us:
"At a well-appointed conservative think tank in downtown Washington and
across the Potomac River at the Pentagon, FBI agents have begun paying quiet
calls on prominent neoconservatives, who are being interviewed in an
investigation of potential espionage, according to intelligence sources. Who
gave Ahmed Chalabi classified information about the plans of the U.S.
government and military?"
This information, says Vince Cannistraro, formerly at the CIA and the
Pentagon, was so "very, very sensitive" that only a few U.S. government
officials had access to it:
"The evidence has pointed quite clearly, not only the fact that Chalabi
might be an agent of influence of the Iranian government and that Chalabi's
intelligence chief, Aras Karim Habib may be a paid agent of the Iranian
intelligence service, but it is shown that there is a leak of classified
information from the United States to Iran through Chalabi and Karim and
that is the particular point that the FBI is investigating. In other words,
some U.S. officials are under investigation on suspicion of providing
classified information to these people that ended up in Iran."
Blumenthal has more:
"A former staff member of the Office of Special Plans and a currently
serving defense official, two of those said to be questioned by the FBI, are
considered witnesses, at least for now. Higher figures are under suspicion.
Were they witting or unwitting? If those who are being questioned turn out
to be misleading, they can be charged ultimately with perjury and
obstruction of justice. For them, the Watergate principle applies: It's not
the crime, it's the coverup."
The lies Chalabi fed to Washington policymakers, who eagerly scarfed them up
and regurgitated them to the American public, originated with Iranian
intelligence, as we are beginning to learn. But the neocon-Tehran
information superhighway ran in both directions. As Julian Borger reports in
the Guardian:
"An intelligence source in Washington said the CIA confirmed its long-held
suspicions when it discovered that a piece of information from an electronic
communications intercept by the National Security Agency had ended up in
Iranian hands. The information was so sensitive that its circulation had
been restricted to a handful of officials. 'This was 'sensitive
compartmented information' - SCI - and it was tracked right back to the
Iranians through Aras Habib,' the intelligence source said."
UPI's Richard Sale reports that "the Federal Bureau of Investigation has
launched a full field investigation into the matter," and gives more
information on what was compromised and how the Iranians pulled off this
intelligence coup:
"Chalabi allegedly passed National Security Agency/CIA intercepts to
intelligence agents of the Iranian government using intermediaries or
'cut-outs' or 'gophers' within the INC, another former CIA agent said. Some
of the intercepts, dated from December, were the basis for a recent Newsweek
story, but there are others of a later date in possession of the FBI, this
source said."
How did Chalabi get his hot little hands on highly secret information?
That's why the FBI - instead of going after, say, Brandon Mayfield, or some
other completely innocent person, as per usual - is now calling on
"prominent" neocons at Washington's poshest thinktanks. I hope they're
bringing an ample supply of handcuffs. But whom might they be handcuffing
and frog-marching out the door, into a waiting paddywagon? UPI gives us the
scoop, citing "a former very senior CIA official" as saying:
"'Chalabi passed specially compartmented intelligence, extraordinarily
sensitive stuff, to the Iranians.' This source said that some of the
intercepts are believed to have been given Chalabi by two U.S. officials of
the Coalition Provision Authority, both of whom are not named here because
UPI could not reach them for comment."
Well, they aren't named, but they might as well have been:
"One former CPA official has returned to the United States and is employed
at the American Enterprise Institute, the former very senior official said,
a fact which FBI sources confirmed without additional comment. The other is
still a working Pentagon official, federal law enforcement officials and
former CIA officials said."
Independent journalist Bob Dreyfuss, whose excellent articles on the neocons
in The American Prospect and Mother Jones puts him up there with Jim Lobe,
Michael Lind, and Joshua Marshall as a veritable maven of neocon-ology,
names names:
"The two officials in the UPI story are, according to my sources, Harold
Rhode, an official in the Pentagon's Office of Net Assessment, and Michael
Rubin, now at the American Enterprise Institute."
Rubin, formerly of the Office of Special Plans and the CPA, who served as
liaison with Chalabi's group, the Iraqi National Congress, certainly fits
the bill. No wonder he's been so . cranky lately, what with FBI agents
barging into his office and giving him the third degree.
Rhode, a longtime Pentagon official assigned to the Office of Net Assessment
and a specialist on Islam, is reportedly Douglas Feith's chief enforcer of
the anti-Arab party line among the civilian Pentagon hierarchy. In refusing
to be interviewed by Dreyfuss for a piece on the neocons in Mother Jones,
Rhode's laconic reply was:
"Those who speak, pay."
Prescient words, and truer than perhaps even Rhode realized at the time.
Hauled up before a grand jury, however, Rhode, Rubin, and the rest of
Chalabi's Pentagon fan club may have no choice about speaking - especially
with the prospect of a long "vacation" at a federal facility staring them in
the face.
Much is being made of how the Iranians "duped" us into invading Iraq, and
"used" the U.S. in getting rid of Saddam Hussein and "paving the way," as
Julian Borger puts it, for a Shi'ite-ruled Iraq. But a simple map of the
region and rudimentary knowledge of the history of the past decade or so
would have revealed as much. As I wrote in this space over a year ago:
"In view of Iran's growing sphere of influence in Iraq, it seems rather
disingenuous to destroy the Sunni minority government run by the Ba'ath
Party and then deny any responsibility for the Shi'ite-y outcome. The U.S.
has made a gift of Iraq to Teheran, reigniting the religious passions that
overthrew the U.S.-backed Shah Reza Pahlavi of Iran and propelled Khomeini
to power."
In charting the outlines of "phase two" of the invasion of Iraq, that same
week last year, I pointed out:
"The main political consequence of the war, internally, is to increase
Iranian influence: if free elections were held in the southern Shi'a
provinces of Iraq, they would undoubtedly usher in some sort of 'Islamic
Republic.' The effort by the neocons in the administration to install Ahmed
Chalabi as the Pentagon's puppet, far from forestalling this possibility,
only makes it a more credible threat to the postwar order."
But why would the militantly pro-Israel neocons, American partisans of the
ultra-nationalist Likud party, act as patrons and promoters of an outfit,
Chalabi's INC, that was really a cover for Iranian intelligence - their
alleged mortal enemies? That's what I couldn't quite figure out, at least
not until I read Robert Parry's excellent piece on the subject, and here's
the money quote:
"As Chalabi's operation fed anti-Saddam propaganda into the U.S.
decision-making machinery, Bush also should have been alert to the Israeli
role in opening doors for Chalabi in Washington. One intelligence source
told me that Israel's Likud government had quietly promoted Chalabi and his
Iraqi National Congress with Washington's influential neoconservatives. That
would help explain why the neoconservatives, who share an ideological
alliance with the conservative Likud, would embrace and defend Chalabi even
as the CIA and the State Department denounced him as a con man.
"The idea of Israel promoting an Iranian agent also is not far-fetched if
one understands the history. The elder Bush could tell his son about the
long-standing strategic ties that have existed between Israel and Iran, both
before and after the Islamic revolution of 1979. It was Menachem Begin's
Likud Party that rebuilt the covert intelligence relationship in 1980. Since
then, it has been maintained through thick and thin, despite Iran's public
anti-Israeli rhetoric."
The enemy of my enemy is my friend: it's a principle often invoked to
justify a course of action seemingly in contradiction to the professed
ideology of the actors. Lined up against a common enemy, American Likudniks
and Ahmed Chalabi, an Iranian intelligence asset, teamed up to drag us into
the Iraqi quagmire, with both members of this oddly coupled tag-team
benefiting from the deal. While the neocons fed Chalabi - and his
intelligence chief, Arras Karim Habib, a paid Iraqi agent - a steady diet of
U.S. secrets, Chalabi fed the neocons (in government and much of the
American media) a fresh serving of tall tales cooked up in the INC's
kitchen, and delivered piping hot to Judith Miller's doorstep.
The Iranians, for their part, feasted on U.S. secrets so deep and dark that
only a few top officials were privy to them - and had a good chunk of Iraq
handed to them, while a de facto Kurdish state emerged as a buffer between
Israel and the Shi'ite power rising in the East. The whole thing was
supposed to have been presided over by the ostensibly pro-Western Chalabi,
the neocons' Alger Hiss. That was the plan, at any rate, but something seems
to have gone awry..
As in the Abu Ghraib photo-gallery of horrors, the nature of the crime
suggests that a few lowly spear carriers - Rubin is just barely out of knee
pants, and Rhode was certainly not in the loop on super-sensitive
intelligence - didn't pull this off all on their own. Before it's all over,
Chalabi-gate will reach into the favored nesting place of the neocons, the
very top echelons of the Pentagon.
As UPI editor Martin Walker reports:
"The real target goes beyond Chalabi. The hunt is on, in the Republican
Party, in Congress, in the CIA and State Department and in a media which is
being deluged with leaks, for Chalabi's friends and sponsors in Washington -
the group known as the neo-cons. In particular, the targets seem to be
Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz, the former assistant secretary (in
Reagan's day) Richard Perle, Vice President Dick Cheney's national security
aide Scooter Libby, and the National Security Council's Middle East aide
Elliott Abrams. The leaking against them - from sources who insist on
anonymity, but some CIA and FBI veterans - is intense. Some of the sources
are now private citizens, making a good living through business connections
in the Arab world."
Speaking of business connections, how does Richard Perle make his living
except by using his government connections to profit handsomely from the
war-driven neocon agenda? Oh well, never mind that: let's get to the juicy
part. Walker also reports that these poor persecuted neocons "are now
beginning to fight back," and in a familiar fashion:
"Richard Perle told this reporter Tuesday that the gloves were off. . Perle
has no doubts that some of the attacks on him are coming directly from the
CIA, in order to cover their own exposed rears, attacking Chalabi's
intelligence to distract attention from their own mistakes. 'I believe that
much of the CIA operation in Iraq was owned by Saddam Hussein,' Perle said.
'There were 45 decapitation attempts against Saddam - and he survived them
all. How could that be, if he was not manipulating the intelligence?'"
Gee, I guess this means that, on account of all those failed "decapitation
attempts" on Fidel Castro over the years, the Cuban Communists exercised
joint ownership of the CIA along with Saddam's Ba'athists. Oh, what a Perle
of wisdom, but the Prince of Darkness was just getting started:
"Perle went on to suggest an even darker motive behind the attacks on the
neo-cons; that the real target was Israel's Likud government and the staunch
support for Israel's prime minister Ariel Sharon in the Bush administration.
When this was put to one CIA source, the reply was mocking: 'That's what
they always do. As soon as these guys get any criticism, they scream Israel
and anti-Semitism, and I think people are finally beginning to see through
that smokescreen.'"
How and why an investigation into Iranian penetration of our most closely
guarded secrets constitutes evidence of "anti-Semitism" is a question I'll
leave for weightier intellects to ponder. But such an unseemly outburst
ought to put to rest any doubts about a neocon-Iranian convergence of
interests: we know something's afoot when both Richard Perle and the Iranian
mullahs sound absolutely identical in tone as well as content.
We knew what the neocons were capable of: smearing their enemies, lying
about practically anything, even outing a CIA agent doing high-priority
undercover work. Is anyone surprised that they're capable of espionage?
Perle is right about one thing: it's time to take the gloves off.
http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=2683
fla...@verizon.net
On 16-May-2008, xxa...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> On 16 May, 10:04, Eli Grubman <eli.grub...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > On Fri, 16 May 2008 20:28:39 +1200, "Tilly" <fem...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >Eli Grubman wrote:
> > >:: On Fri, 16 May 2008 16:52:25 +1200, "Tilly" <fem...@gmail.com>
> > >wrote:
> > >::
> > >::: Unfortunately this wasn't the outcome everyone was praying for.
> > > :-(
> > >::
> > >:: Some people were praying for exactly that.
Only subhuman monsters were praying for that, as is obvious.
> > >:: Anyway, what's one
> > >:: Israeli in comparison to the tens of thousands killed in Burma/China
> > >:: recently?
> > >::
> > >:: Eli
> >
> > >What an idiotic comment.
> >
> > What a stupid story.
> >
> > >This is news for Jewish and Israeli people who have been following
> > >the
> > >case and since ishe went missing in NZ and I am here I am updating
> > >them.
> >
> > Whoopeedoo!
> >
> > >You're not one of them so f**k off.
> >
> > What are you gonna do, fool? Swing your C-cup at me?
>
The Rev pedo is jealous because he wants breasts - if only because he has
nothing else.
>
> PEDOVICH GET HUMILIATED BY THE GIRLS BHAAAAAAAAAAAAhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!
> SO FUCKFIT BETTER LEAVE THIS GROUP AND STICK YOUR DICK TO THE ALEX
> ASS!
If only he could afford the airfare....
Susan
Eli Grubman
>
>On 16-May-2008, xxa...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
>
>> On 16 May, 10:04, Eli Grubman <eli.grub...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> > On Fri, 16 May 2008 20:28:39 +1200, "Tilly" <fem...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >Eli Grubman wrote:
>> > >:: On Fri, 16 May 2008 16:52:25 +1200, "Tilly" <fem...@gmail.com>
>> > >wrote:
>> > >::
>> > >::: Unfortunately this wasn't the outcome everyone was praying for.
>> > > :-(
>> > >::
>> > >:: Some people were praying for exactly that.
>
>Only subhuman monsters were praying for that, as is obvious.
How deep into a post do you have to go to find someone you've
killfiled, you thick Irish convert cunt???
>> > >:: Anyway, what's one
>> > >:: Israeli in comparison to the tens of thousands killed in Burma/China
>> > >:: recently?
>> > >::
>> > >:: Eli
>> >
>> > >What an idiotic comment.
>> >
>> > What a stupid story.
>> >
>> > >This is news for Jewish and Israeli people who have been following
>> > >the
>> > >case and since ishe went missing in NZ and I am here I am updating
>> > >them.
>> >
>> > Whoopeedoo!
>> >
>> > >You're not one of them so f**k off.
>> >
>> > What are you gonna do, fool? Swing your C-cup at me?
>>
>The Rev pedo is jealous because he wants breasts - if only because he has
>nothing else.
That's lame, even for a thick Irish convert cunt!
>> PEDOVICH GET HUMILIATED BY THE GIRLS BHAAAAAAAAAAAAhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!
>> SO FUCKFIT BETTER LEAVE THIS GROUP AND STICK YOUR DICK TO THE ALEX
>> ASS!
>
>If only he could afford the airfare....
>
>Susan
And it just gets lamer and lamer. But you're obviously happy with the
retard Xxarab. Why don't you two get a room and take your disgusting
tryst off Usenet?
Eli
Jamie Peters
So what are the details Tildo? Was she found dead after being beaten
senseless by a baseball bat. Or wthere evidentiary artifacts found near the
body bearing the marks of a "Baptist" J-4-J religious cult murder?
Ahhhhhh.... ha, ha, ha, ha, ha... Let's hear the latest gossip!
Jamie Peters
"Eli Grubman" <eli.g...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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"REV PEDO WANT SUKIE ONE MONKEY BREAST; C CUP; NOT TWO. ONLY BECAUSE; HE
HaVE NOTING ELSE!
ME LIKIE LAME TALKIE, GO GET GARY FOR RING GEAR PROBE NOW"
SUSAN
;-))
Jamie Peters
"ElParedon" <ser...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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'Next to the body police found an aluminum basebal bat with the name
"Stephanie's Favourite Dildo" inscribed on the instument.'
David
>
> - Show quoted text -
I am sure the family will just love to hear that!!!
shalome,,,
David.
Jamie Peters
"David" <dafy...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Aimed at One-Tit-Tilly-Tildo, not the family. Shalome!
L Alpert
"B.H. Cramer" <Iamhre@them'oment.bizz> wrote in message
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>
> "Tilly" <fem...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:g0j3ub$ckr$1...@registered.motzarella.org...
>> Unfortunately this wasn't the outcome everyone was praying for.
>> :-(
>
> Everyone?
Sentient beings.
dumb_thick_...@venizon.com
"Jamie Peters" <jas...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>>>> >
>>>> > >What an idiotic comment.
>>>> >
>>>> > What a stupid story.
>>>> >
>>>> > >This is news for Jewish and Israeli people who have been following
>>>> > >the
>>>> > >case and since ishe went missing in NZ and I am here I am updating
>>>> > >them.
>>>> >
>>>> > Whoopeedoo!
>>>> >
>>>> > >You're not one of them so f**k off.
>>>> >
>>>> > What are you gonna do, fool? Swing your C-cup at me?
>>>>
>>>The Rev pedo is jealous because he wants breasts - if only because he has
>>>nothing else.
>
>
> "REV PEDO WANT SUKIE ONE MONKEY BREAST; C CUP; NOT TWO. ONLY BECAUSE; HE
> HaVE NOTING ELSE!
>
> ME LIKIE LAME TALKIE, GO GET GARY FOR RING GEAR PROBE NOW"
>
> SUSAN
>
> ;-))
>
>
Yuck
Susan
Eli Grubman
wrote:
Fuck the family. The girl should have stayed in Israel.
Eli
Tilly
:: NZ bobcat did it!
Really? <sarcasm intended>
Give us a description of the NZ bobcat.
Waiting...........
B.H. Cramer
> ElParedon wrote:
> :: NZ bobcat did it!
>
>
>
> Really? <sarcasm intended>
>
> Give us a description of the NZ bobcat.
> Waiting...........
Probably phonetic for Bob Katt - A nasty little hebe who infests the
forests.
>
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Kosher Cunny
"B.H. Cramer" <Iamhre@them'oment.bizz> wrote in message
They run in packs, Bob Katz!